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[Ducayne]

does a game have to add support for it? I thought HDR was just a system level thing?

Games need to have HDR enabled (it's a bigger color spectrum), same with movies. Older games don't innately produce a larger color spectrum (they've never had a reason to, until now)

First game to be release with HDR is Forza Horizon 3. Think I read it's not *extreme* Biggest details you'll see out of it is the skybox/clouds.

 

[etta]

Yeah.

I got bored. Can't find any size for the new S yet...

Xbox - 320 × 100 × 260 mm
Xbox One - 343 x 80 x 263 mm
Xbox 360 - 309 x 83 x 258 mm
Xbox 360 Slim - 270 x 75 x 264 mm
Xbox One S - ????

Why don't you use a ruler on your computer screen?

 

[Xenoflare]

Yeah.

I got bored. Can't find any size for the new S yet...

Xbox - 320 × 100 × 260 mm
Xbox One - 343 x 80 x 263 mm
Xbox 360 - 309 x 83 x 258 mm
Xbox 360 Slim - 270 x 75 x 264 mm
Xbox One S - ????

The 40% size reduction comes from a 15% reduction of all dimentions (assuming it's even)

So the One S would probably be 292x68x221mm, I am not sure about the 221mm length at all. but the 292mm width and the 68mm height seems possible.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

new controller has bluetooth and the other thing

All XB1 controllers would work. IIRC when it connects to the xbox the new controller still uses the 2.4Ghz, if your PC supports bluetooth the new controller would work without any adapters.

If the elite pad doesn't work with the 1s there should have been a riot already

Ok cool, I thought they would, but not seen much info on this.

 

[Caayn]

does a game have to add support for it? I thought HDR was just a system level thing?

The game needs to support it, the system needs to ensure that it can output HDR (minimum HDMI 2.0a or DP1.4) and you'll need to display capable of actually showing it. Plenty of HDR screens on the market that fail to properly show HDR, mostly the cheaper ones. HDR improves the contrast and colour range (16.7M vs 1B).

 

[nillapuddin]

http://www.cnet.com/pictures/xbox-one-s-vs-microsoft-xbox-one-size-comparison-photos/

 

[Mark5130]

That thing is pretty sexy, but why no black version?

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

Why is that warning sticker still on the OG?

:x

Because this is just MS PR..

 

[KainXVIII]

Damn, maybe there is PS4 size comparison embargo, lol

 

[blue_phazon]

Because this is just MS PR..

Some people even on gaf still had the sticker on in "show me your gaming setup" threads, so it's more like people are just weirdos

 

[RowdyReverb]

So I haven't really been keeping up with this revision but why does it not look as small as that one comparison image that appeared when the S was announced?

Or was that just a fake mockup?

I think the designer of that graphic misunderstood the math of making it 40% smaller by volume. It looks like they made it 40% smaller in each dimension, which would be closer to making the volume 80% smaller.

 

[Xenoflare]

Damn, maybe there is PS4 size comparison embargo, lol

Right? The only thing this has been compared to is the old Xbox One, which is something that is just way too big even on its own

 

[Hawk269]

Any games that support HDR at release and any impressions on that?

First game that has HDR support is Forza Horizon 3, so we will have a bit of a wait before we can see how HDR impacts a games visuals. I plan to run some tests with HDR on and off when Forza Horizon 3 comes out.

 

[Papacheeks]

Since I don't have 4k tv or monitor am I better off buying the xbox one s?

Only reason I really want an xbox one is mainly for couple games that I know won't be on PC, and backwards Compatibility for xb360.

What should I do?

The game needs to support it, the system needs to ensure that it can output HDR (minimum HDMI 2.0a or DP1.4) and you'll need to display capable of actually showing it. Plenty of HDR screens on the market that fail to properly show HDR, mostly the cheaper ones. HDR improves the contrast and colour range (16.7M vs 1B).

I have a ASUS VG248QE Black 24 144hz monitor, and a 1080p LED.

Will I be able to take advantage of HDR titles? Or is it for most new 4k displays?

 

[cackhyena]

Curious if the OS runs smoother/faster.

 

[Buddy Mcpuddy]

I have a 4k TV and I'm yet to pick up a UHD BD player or an Xbone, so I find this quite tempting (especially if Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey get BC support).

...But Scorpio.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Since I don't have 4k tv or monitor am I better off buying the xbox one s?

Only reason I really want an xbox one is mainly for couple games that I know won't be on PC, and backwards Compatibility for xb360.

What should I do?

I would wait for Digital Foundry to do some tests then decide on $299 S or cheaper fat console.

 

[thenexus6]

Man, this is one of the nicest looking consoles ever.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Very nice looking.

 

[Caayn]

I have a ASUS VG248QE Black 24 144hz monitor, and a 1080p LED.

Will I be able to take advantage of HDR titles? Or is it for most new 4k displays?

That monitor doesn't have support for HDR. I haven't yet seen a <4K display that supports HDR.

So what does then? Are most led tv's support it? Or is it something new in tv space that only certain models support?

It's a new tech. Right now a few of 2015s high end TVs support it and it's starting to be included in mid-end and up this year.

 

[Papacheeks]

That monitor doesn't have support for HDR. I haven't yet seen a <4K display that supports HDR.

So what does then? Are most led tv's support it? Or is it something new in tv space that only certain models support?

 

[BRocknRolla]

So what does then? Are most led tv's support it? Or is it something new in tv space that only certain models support?

A lot of this year's 4k TV offerings support it. A rare few from last year.

 

[molnizzle]

So what does then? Are most led tv's support it? Or is it something new in tv space that only certain models support?

Something new that only certain models support. If your TV is older than a year old you probably don't have it. If it's less than a year old you probably don't have it unless it's 4K. Even then it's 50/50.

 

[Papacheeks]

Something new that only certain models support. If your TV is older than a year old you probably don't have it. If it's less than a year old you probably don't have it unless it's 4K. Even then it's 50/50.

Then why does this even really matter? Seems to be only for new displays mostly?

I'm fine with what I have for resolution.

 

[Resident Guru]

Curious if the OS runs smoother/faster.

This is what I am dying to know! Hopefully we will have some speed comparison videos soon.

 

[Papacheeks]

This is what I am dying to know! Hopefully we will have some speed comparison videos soon.

Also anyone know if install speed for games will increase at all?

Because that's the biggest reason I'v been PS4/PC bound most this gen.

 

[SaganIsGOAT]

Scorpio actually became the reason I've held off purchasing this atm. But I'm wondering how smart Microsoft will be when it comes to trading the Xbox One S towards the Scorpio next fall? Hmmm I wanna play halo 5 firefight

 

[dcx4610]

Here's a question. Since the new controller still uses 2.4G for the Xbox but uses Bluetooth for PC and other devices, how do you power on the controller without it powering on the Xbox?

I want to use the controller on my Steam Link and PC but I imagine if I press power, it's going to turn on the Xbox.

 

[Resident Guru]

Also anyone know if install speed for games will increase at all?

Because that's the biggest reason I'v been PS4/PC bound most this gen.

The only news reported thus far is there will be some slight performance improvements in Gears of War 4 during more demanding parts of the game.

 

[Hawk269]

Then why does this even really matter? Seems to be only for new displays mostly?

I'm fine with what I have for resolution.

It matters as it future proofs the S a bit more due to it's support of HDR. Until you see the difference between a HDR movie and a non HDR movie, it is hard to show in images etc. It really makes an impactful difference. For gaming, we will not know until FH3 comes out and from what I hear, Gears of War 4 uses HDR as well.

There are some 2015 sets that support HDR, not many. It is mainly 2016 models and forwards that support it. Some do it better than others, some sets output higher NITS than others and this impacts the impact of HDR.

 

[molnizzle]

Then why does this even really matter? Seems to be only for new displays mostly?

I'm fine with what I have for resolution.

It matters for the future, not so much right now. It's was a marketing buzzword to get MS press at E3. In this particular case it's actually amazing tech that everyone will want, but it does require a new television to take advantage of it.

 

[Mr Git]

It's beautiful. Still no word on a black one?

 

[Jawmuncher]

The controller has grips on it?
I NEED IT.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I thought I was the only one&#128518;

Hee

 

[Jumeira]

Then why does this even really matter? Seems to be only for new displays mostly?

I'm fine with what I have for resolution.

Because it'll be the norm eventually, MS will be known for supporting it and be associated to it by being first .

I just upgraded to a 4k UHD TV last Sunday only because XboxS/Scorpio are heavily focusing on 4k. Can't hold back progress because some are unwilling or unconvinced to accept thr path the industry is taking.

 

[c0de]

Yeah.

I got bored. Can't find any size for the new S yet...

Xbox - 320 × 100 × 260 mm
Xbox One - 343 x 80 x 263 mm
Xbox 360 - 309 x 83 x 258 mm
Xbox 360 Slim - 270 x 75 x 264 mm
Xbox One S - ????

According to Amazon.de:
Produktabmessungen: 29 x 43 x 11 cm; 118 g

This seems to be the package size and not the actual console.

 

[etta]

According to Amazon.de:
Produktabmessungen: 29 x 43 x 11 cm; 118 g

This seems to be the package size and not the actual console.

100 grams?
roofles

 

[CyberMiguel]

Because it'll be the norm eventually, MS will be known for supporting it and be associated to it by being first .

I just upgraded to a 4k UHD TV last Sunday only because XboxS/Scorpio are heavily focusing on 4k. Can't hold back progress because some are unwilling or unconvinced to accept thr path the industry is taking.

Gaming industry, perhaps, because 4k blu-rays as mainstream are still far far away (compared to HD blu-ray) and 4k TV (on cable, satellite or antenna) is way, way far from now. Heh...there are even developed countries in Europe whose TV channels are still finishing their transition to HD, let alone making experimental broadcasts in 4k.

Right now, there is nowhere near enough 4k content to justify the ridiculous ammount of money those TV sets cost and even then, not every 4k TV support HDR. In fact, very few support this color space.

 

[Occam]

Congratulations, it's a box.

 

[mrklaw]

Wondering if HDR in games is a few years too early. Inout lag seems to be a big problem and most sets force themselves into a set mode when they detect HDR content so you can't bypass processing etc.

 

[mrklaw]

I think the designer of that graphic misunderstood the math of making it 40% smaller by volume. It looks like they made it 40% smaller in each dimension, which would be closer to making the volume 80% smaller.

It shouldn't matter what some designer thinks. A product manager or marketing manager should have to approve all images/videos used and that should have been caught before it went live.

Worse, it should definitely have been caught after it went live - lots have complained about it but I thinking is still being used on product pages

 

[Itaremustbedangeres]

I can't pull mine off without leaving sticker residue behind.

that's why mine is still in place as well. I don't wanna have to clean up the residue should it not peel off easily

 

[Jumeira]

Gaming industry, perhaps, because 4k blu-rays as mainstream are still far far away (compared to HD blu-ray) and 4k TV (on cable, satellite or antenna) is way, way far from now. Heh...there are even developed countries in Europe whose TV channels are still finishing their transition to HD, let alone making experimental broadcasts in 4k.

Right now, there is nowhere near enough 4k content to justify the ridiculous ammount of money those TV sets cost and even then, not every 4k TV support HDR. In fact, very few support this color space.

Disagree. Almost every new TV is 4k and are fairly cheap, you can buy a good 45inch 4k set from £600, all mid tier TVs (£1k upwards) will be 4k as standard. I agree content needs to catch up, but with people using smart TVs and some providers offering 4k like Sky. (4k football matches), streaming services like Netflix, YouTube it's starting to take hold, feels like its following the same pattern as HD back in 2005, widely accepted by all manufacturers with a visible leap in quality at an affordable price. It'll take a few more years but MS want their consoles to be ready early and be known for it, much like PS2 and Blu-ray.

 

[Mexen]

Probably the first time that I was taken aback by the looks of a console. Usually, I am more interested in functionality than aesthetics, but this looks sexy af.

 

[Nick]

Do we know if the OS is going to run any smoother? Half the time my launch day Xbone OS runs like dog shit. I'm assuming it's the same?

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

Ok, so erm, that venting circle at the top looks super ugly.

 

[T.O.P]

Wondering if they'll do a Horizon3 bundle/special ed.

It's the only thing that would make me wait to get a white one

 

[nuttyevans]

Looks beautiful.

I don't NEED this thing....but I certainly want it.

 

[SwolBro]

it truly might be the nicest looking console yet.

 

[Tailzo]

Yeah I agree, it certainly looks very nice

And a video by a norwegian no less