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[JimmyRustler]

Wait, so that OHP is without the bar, and is really 200?! (Because that is a pretty big press for reps at that body weight.)

Yeah, I'm basically you. 6'5", 197/198. Trying to gain weight. I think I have the drift finally going in the right direction. About 2 lbs a month.

Man, I hear you on the squat. It took me years (and a coach) for me to even get a half way decent low bar back squat. I have it figured out now, but it takes absolute focus each rep when it gets heavy.

I like front squats a lot. It does feel more natural to have a more upright back. (I did hurt my back on them when I was knee deep in a deep cut). Been spooked of them ever since.

Anyway, thanks for sharing. Just wanted to put your experience in context. Different things happen at different weights and strength levels.

Oh, the OHP was a typo. It's 115 lbp x 5.

Lucky you with the weight gain. Ever since during Covid I did some wild dieting experiments that severely damaged my relation to food and left me with not liking the feeling of food in body most of the time. Best I can do is a small meal at lunch, a protein bar + banana at 3 pm and a big meal in the evening (after which I avoid leaving my house). Needless to say this makes impossible to gain weight. Capped out at 200 lbp before my "cut", and even this one was only because I was shuffling chips and ice cream after my dinner. Bot that I cut those I'm probably down to 190 again... But anyway, as long a my strength keeps somewhat increasing it's fine. Also I find it quite easy to eat extremely healthy, which is probably the reason why I don't look my age.

Squats are horror in general for tall people - biomechanics. We have such a longer way to go. I've got used to seeing smaller people easily repping twice my weight....

 

[Raven117]

Oh, the OHP was a typo. It's 115 lbp x 5.

Lucky you with the weight gain. Ever since during Covid I did some wild dieting experiments that severely damaged my relation to food and left me with not liking the feeling of food in body most of the time. Best I can do is a small meal at lunch, a protein bar + banana at 3 pm and a big meal in the evening (after which I avoid leaving my house). Needless to say this makes impossible to gain weight. Capped out at 200 lbp before my "cut", and even this one was only because I was shuffling chips and ice cream after my dinner. Bot that I cut those I'm probably down to 190 again... But anyway, as long a my strength keeps somewhat increasing it's fine. Also I find it quite easy to eat extremely healthy, which is probably the reason why I don't look my age.

Squats are horror in general for tall people - biomechanics. We have such a longer way to go. I've got used to seeing smaller people easily repping twice my weight....

Oh gotcha. LOL. Was about to say, Anything getting close to 200 for reps on an OHP is pretty damn impressive. (And please include the bar weight (45lbs) in your totals! There isn't a gym goer on the planet that doesn't do that)

Man, I'm sorry to hear that about your relationship with food. I dealt a little bit with it as well. One time, I cut to 164 (yeah, I got my abs, but woof). Then from November 2022 to about August of 24, I went up to 240 on a bulk. I don't regret it, but damn, it effed with my blood work (way too high cholesterol). I cut then back down to about 194, and building back up (was stronger, for sure though). All this to say, I freak out a bit on food. But I think Im in a much better place now than i have been in years. It took years of work. Hopefully you will get in a better place as well.

Yeah man. Gawd, squats are just really terrible for most tall people's leverages. I'm still improving slowly. So I'll take it.

That said, deadlifts tend to work out pretty well! They seem to work out pretty well for you too!

 

[T8SC]

I don't post here much but I hit the gym or exercise daily and part of today's effort is below.

My Garmin says I need 72hrs recovery I'll have to make do with 15hrs max.

 

[Baemono]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

 

[Aces High]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

You don't need a lot of protein if you don't train because there's no muscle protein breakdown happening.

Eat lots of fresh fruits and some veggies instead.

 

[Raven117]

Welp got sick, nausea and stuff, lost appetite, and now -6lbs down in 4 days, it's a bit too much, but I really can't swalow anything. Still try to have a protein intake to keep the muscles though, waist going way down (32 inches this morning)

I'll see if I can hit the gym again next week

My bet is that you will bounce back pretty quick. It's not like your body immediately starts breaking down muscle the absolute second you are in a caloric deficit.

 

[Baemono]

My bet is that you will bounce back pretty quick. It's not like your body immediately starts breaking down muscle the absolute second you are in a caloric deficit.

I'll see how things are going. First time I did a big cut, I went down 60lbs, and lost a lot of muscle. Put back on 25lbs of mostly (I believe) muscle in 1.5 year, now it's time to cut again the 20lbs excess

 

[Raven117]

I'll see how things are going. First time I did a big cut, I went down 60lbs, and lost a lot of muscle. Put back on 25lbs of mostly (I believe) muscle in 1.5 year, now it's time to cut again the 20lbs excess

A sustained cut is going to be different than jut getting sick for a few days.

I would suggest getting DEXA scans to try and get a few data points regarding muscle and fat gain or loss. I found the information to really helpful.

Maybe do one now, then one at the end of your cut.

 

[Baemono]

A sustained cut is going to be different than jut getting sick for a few days

It started as being sick, motivated me to go on full cut mode (rather than the half-assed cut-but-also-muscle-gain I was doing in the last 6 months). Waist down to below 32 inches now, the lowest I ever recorded was 28, I don't aim to go this low this time, just to be under 200 lbs

 

[Raven117]

It started as being sick, motivated me to go on full cut mode (rather than the half-assed cut-but-also-muscle-gain I was doing in the last 6 months). Waist down to below 32 inches now, the lowest I ever recorded was 28, I don't aim to go this low this time, just to be under 200 lbs

Oh gotcha! Yeah, I've found the if one is going to cut… don't eff around and cut. If one wants to bulk, don't mess around and bulk (not balls crazy, but definitely a click over maintenance).

Good luck!

 

[Baemono]

I'm still going strong with my cut, after the initial water loss of course it becomes harder to trim the fat down, but I see impressive progress. I try to go to the pool everyday to do some cardio, and while I'm at an all time peak body-wise (huge arms and back and slim waist with defined abs), I still see myself as a gross blob, terrible

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I posted near the start of the year and since then made some good gains, fitness improved, body conditioned to training, wasn't feeling like I'd been hit by a car the next day etc.

Then I went to Italy and then USA and ate crap over a 4/5 week period with no gym sessions.

I've put weight on and one day back at gym has destroyed me. I feel like I'm starting from scratch again.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Ok, so I'm done with my cut now… but since I basically got used to it by now I'm just gonna keep going with the clean diet for now - and the low drinking of course.

Speaking of the drinking… My progress is nothing short of insane. I went from almost dying of thirst to now drinking less than a litre of water on no training days and am now on my way to almost a litre only even on training days. I don't really understand how this is possible but it is what it is. I've read somewhere that the urine starts to get mad yellow when you are dehydrated but I notice nothing of that sort. The water intake from the fruits and veggies seems to be sufficient for me. It's all a bit puzzling.

Also that I don't experience any negative effects. My lifts are still ok and every now and then I manage to squeeze out a rep or two more than before - just like I did with the old diet.

Meanwhile my waist keeps shrinking. Just bought a new pair of jeans with size 31x36 and they are still too big. I feel like I could easily go to 29x36, which are female sizes… Damn…

My snoring has basically vanished now. Noticed one snore for the whole of July in my app and that probably because I was a bit sick that day.

Also even though I don't eat that much less than before honestly, I shit MUCH less in general (yes, I track that too… don't ask…).

So yeah, all pros, no cons. No pictures because I'm horrible at taking them and can never get the angle right but I feel like I look a bit more shredded now. Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any. lol

 

[Baemono]

Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I used to weight myself for a year or so with changing diet but always just went back and forth between 90-92 kg, so I just stopped doing it. Like I said, I have issues with weight gain.
If I would have to guess I'd say I'm at around 90 kg again.

 

[Baemono]

I used to weight myself for a year or so with changing diet but always just went back and forth between 90-92 kg, so I just stopped doing it. Like I said, I have issues with weight gain.
If I would have to guess I'd say I'm at around 90 kg again.

It so far from my daily routine, I can't grasp it, I weight several times daily nowadays (which isn't good I've been told, but helps me a lot to track my weight loss).

I'm at 14lbs lost now, but the more I cut the furthest my goal seems to be. I wanted to be 196 to be lean, now I believe I should be 185 to be really lean (currently at 207lbs)

 

[JimmyRustler]

It so far from my daily routine, I can't grasp it, I weight several times daily nowadays (which isn't good I've been told, but helps me a lot to track my weight loss).

I'm at 14lbs lost now, but the more I cut the furthest my goal seems to be. I wanted to be 196 to be lean, now I believe I should be 185 to be really lean (currently at 207lbs)

I've had bad experience with actual severe weight loss. Loosing weight is no real issue for me (I once went down to 160 lbs once at 6'4). The problem is to loose it properly. Meaning, mostly fat and keep the muscles on. I usually loose way to much muscle, which is why it's not worth it for me. One would think that when loosing weight but training regularly your body will take the fat and keep the muscle... but for me it was somehow the other way around.

This is by the way the main reason why I'm trying this fluid fast now. Feels to me like my body is just not processing the nutrient properly.

 

[Raven117]

I posted near the start of the year and since then made some good gains, fitness improved, body conditioned to training, wasn't feeling like I'd been hit by a car the next day etc.

Then I went to Italy and then USA and ate crap over a 4/5 week period with no gym sessions.

I've put weight on and one day back at gym has destroyed me. I feel like I'm starting from scratch again.

You detrained a bit, but you are going to make JUMPS getting back. Not to worry.

Ok, so I'm done with my cut now… but since I basically got used to it by now I'm just gonna keep going with the clean diet for now - and the low drinking of course.

Speaking of the drinking… My progress is nothing short of insane. I went from almost dying of thirst to now drinking less than a litre of water on no training days and am now on my way to almost a litre only even on training days. I don't really understand how this is possible but it is what it is. I've read somewhere that the urine starts to get mad yellow when you are dehydrated but I notice nothing of that sort. The water intake from the fruits and veggies seems to be sufficient for me. It's all a bit puzzling.

Also that I don't experience any negative effects. My lifts are still ok and every now and then I manage to squeeze out a rep or two more than before - just like I did with the old diet.

Meanwhile my waist keeps shrinking. Just bought a new pair of jeans with size 31x36 and they are still too big. I feel like I could easily go to 29x36, which are female sizes… Damn…

My snoring has basically vanished now. Noticed one snore for the whole of July in my app and that probably because I was a bit sick that day.

Also even though I don't eat that much less than before honestly, I shit MUCH less in general (yes, I track that too… don't ask…).

So yeah, all pros, no cons. No pictures because I'm horrible at taking them and can never get the angle right but I feel like I look a bit more shredded now. Never measured my weight so I have no idea if I've lost any. lol

What an interesting experiment.