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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Atramental
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Okay, you need to spell this out for me haha...Bealost said:
SS is an acronym for what?
Cleans in SS? Explain.
sebajuNujabes
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Starting Strength, it's a book. Powercleans are an exercise.Atramental said:
Atramental said:
http://startingstrength.com/
hang clean, power clean, clean and jerk.
those were the only lifts i ever skipped in high school hahah i hated them and still do
Atramental
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Okay, thank you.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Bealost said:
I'm 5'11", but only 155.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
reilo said:
Do you mean not bringing your knees in when coming back up? Many elite olympic lifters do that during back/front squats and during the c&j.
Jason's Ultimatum
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MrOogieBoogie said:
Damn, you're skinny.
Jason's Ultimatum
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What's your daily diet like?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Straightballin said:
I'm doing it now, well I add some stuff and change things around every week but its the backbone of it. Showing some results after a month and a bit.
Breakfast:
Coffee/milk or h&h
Oatmeal/milk/a scoop of protein powder
(may skip entirely depending on how late I get up, since I'm not able to come back to get food till later)
Lunch:
Yogurt or greek yogurt
some granola in it, maybe a fruit like a banana or an apple
trying now to mix in a scoop of protein powder in with it, works well with the fage greek yogurt I got (9g carb, 23g protein a serving)
(may have a tuna fish sandwich once in a while with japanese mayo and 12 grain or wheat bread)
(may have something with eggs, scrambled, or in an egg salad)
supper:
some type of meat, either beef or chicken
may have eggs or bacon depending on my :effort: levels
I'll get some veggies in this time slot as well, don't really have the time or effort to prepare them before.
sometimes as snacks i'll have like raisins or those cliff bars or some fruits or something
this isn't all at once but varies per day.
Coffee/milk or h&h
Oatmeal/milk/a scoop of protein powder
(may skip entirely depending on how late I get up, since I'm not able to come back to get food till later)
Lunch:
Yogurt or greek yogurt
some granola in it, maybe a fruit like a banana or an apple
trying now to mix in a scoop of protein powder in with it, works well with the fage greek yogurt I got (9g carb, 23g protein a serving)
(may have a tuna fish sandwich once in a while with japanese mayo and 12 grain or wheat bread)
(may have something with eggs, scrambled, or in an egg salad)
supper:
some type of meat, either beef or chicken
may have eggs or bacon depending on my :effort: levels
I'll get some veggies in this time slot as well, don't really have the time or effort to prepare them before.
sometimes as snacks i'll have like raisins or those cliff bars or some fruits or something
this isn't all at once but varies per day.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Can't help my metabolism, man. Always been skinny. Most I ever weighed was 165, but I'm in far better shape now than then (when I was on the Rippetoe program).
Jason's Ultimatum
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Gvaz said:
You can try my diet. I got strong pretty fast. If you're not eating at least around 3500 calories a day, then you won't make any gains, no matter how much protein you eat. Your strength may go up a bit, but then you'll hit a plateau.
I eat:
-One cup of oatmeal with a slice of bananas, flax seed, 1/4 pecans, and a scoop of whey protein
-after working out I take my shake which is one cup of milk, strawberries, one banana, slice up some avocados, two TBS of almond butter (or PB if you choose) , a cup of milk, and a scoop of whey protein
-lunch I eat a chicken breast
-mid afternoon I eat a bowl of Kashi cereal that has like 13g of protein per one cup serving. I usually use more. You can find it at Walmart for like $3.19.
-late afternoon I eat another chicken breast with kashi crackers and hummus.
-dinner is a toss up. it could be anything-before bed snack I eat ezikiel bread with almond butter and an apple
Sunday could be your cheat day, and try consuming like 6,000 calories on that day.
Jason's Ultimatum
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BTW, I'm going to stop using upper body for awhile and do squats, romaninan DLs, and calves. When it comes to calves, do you heavy weight with high or low reps? and how long of a break in between sets should I take to grow them?
Calves can take a lot of punishment. Heavy weight with low reps then slightly-less heavy weight with high reps, why the hell not. There's a lot of talk of stretching the fascia around the calves to allow them room to grow, and I always make sure to stretch my calves before and after I work them to facilitate what little growth I can get out of them. I haven't really focused on calf hypertrophy but I'm sure you can find an intense program somewhere online to help them grow. I think there's an 8-Week Calf Blitzkrieg by Chad Waterbury out there on T-Nation.
I asked my wife how long to cook the oats and she asked me why I wanted to know. Long story short she wasn't willing to tell, insisting that If I knew how to cook for myself that would be the first step towards making her obsolete. She's a pretty darn good cook, so I can't complain.parrotbeak said:
I don't see how working out 3 days a week and eating that many calories will help...
@Gvaz
He may have misread the intention of your original post.
Use eggs, lean poultry and lean beef, cottage cheese and lowfat Greek yogurt to fill in the gaps when you're eating too little. Too much of a caloric deficit will cut into strength gains, as you are no doubt describing when you say your feel like you're not making progress.
He may have misread the intention of your original post.
Use eggs, lean poultry and lean beef, cottage cheese and lowfat Greek yogurt to fill in the gaps when you're eating too little. Too much of a caloric deficit will cut into strength gains, as you are no doubt describing when you say your feel like you're not making progress.
FallingEdge
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MrOogieBoogie said:
Fantastic sir. I couldn't find your post but what is your current routine? Always interested in trying something new. I was thinking about getting the Gymnastic Bodies Book or Convict Conditioning as I heard good things about both.
As for me, I think I'm going to try the reverse pyramid training scheme. I do IF and might as well do the routine that Martin does as well. Throw in some assistance exercises at the end and be good to go. 2+ months of eating like crap and not going to the gym made me feel sluggish and slow. Looking at myself in the mirror really upset me this weekend. I have a problem of just not stopping when eating. I really can put the food away and you can tell haha.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Didn't know he was trying to lose weight, lol.
Mully said:
i asked this question earlier, and some people answered that they don't think its necessary unless you're trying to compete in strongman competitions etc.
with that being said, i do 2-a-days every once in a while (couple times a month probably), and i do more cardio based circuit lifting type stuff and at night i do the heavier lifting.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Seems like you're just going to wear your body out, not allowing it to rest and recover.
Post #5 in the OP has a few basics on bodyweight exercises. I mention Al Kavadlo's hierarchy of bodyweight exercises divided by difficulty... it's pretty accurate: Mastering Your Body Weight. There are tons of exercises you can do and many variations on each, and Al's site only has a sampling of them.balddemon said:
Like with free weights, it makes sense to focus on the bread-and-butter exercises and master those. I'd love to get a hold on handstand pushups, but the first step will be dumping the press and going for that instead. I'll never be able to do them if I don't try.
parrotbeak
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Haha, that's funny. You should tell her it's not the specific details of a recipe; it's the love that goes into it that makes it special. Well, I forgot I had a party all day Saturday, which put gym and swimming on Sunday, so I never got around to making them. Maybe tonight.MjFrancis said:
-Age:20
-Height: About 1.75 meters
-Weight: 61 kg
-Goal: To size up a little (especially arms), and get good tone in the rest of the body.
-Current Training Schedule: I'm trying to go to the gym from monday to friday, but I usually end up going 4 times. I alternate between 2 routines: The first one has me working triceps, chest (pectorals), and legs (quadriceps) with 2 different exercises each. The second one has me working biceps, the back and shoulders (also 2 different exercises each). I do 4 repetitions of 8 for each exercise.
-Current Training Equipment Available: Well, I go to a gym, so basically everything
-Comments: I basically want to know if I should be eating a lot, because some people seem to recommend eating as much as I can as long as it is not bad food, but some other people recommend eating not a lot so I get better tone. Also, any tip that you guys might have will be useful. What is the best time for exercising? Should I eat before going to the gym(fruits maybe?)? What about jogging (is it a good complement?). Should I rest immediatly after going to the gym?
-Height: About 1.75 meters
-Weight: 61 kg
-Goal: To size up a little (especially arms), and get good tone in the rest of the body.
-Current Training Schedule: I'm trying to go to the gym from monday to friday, but I usually end up going 4 times. I alternate between 2 routines: The first one has me working triceps, chest (pectorals), and legs (quadriceps) with 2 different exercises each. The second one has me working biceps, the back and shoulders (also 2 different exercises each). I do 4 repetitions of 8 for each exercise.
-Current Training Equipment Available: Well, I go to a gym, so basically everything
-Comments: I basically want to know if I should be eating a lot, because some people seem to recommend eating as much as I can as long as it is not bad food, but some other people recommend eating not a lot so I get better tone. Also, any tip that you guys might have will be useful. What is the best time for exercising? Should I eat before going to the gym(fruits maybe?)? What about jogging (is it a good complement?). Should I rest immediatly after going to the gym?
MjFrancis said:
Thanks for pointing that out, looks extremely helpful so far.
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On another note, my spine is super crooked and my form on pullups seems janky.
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5 foot 9
Weight:145 lbs
Goal:Leaner physique, maybe gain a little weight
Just wondering how far you can go with bodyweight exercises alone? What sort of physique can you expect assuming you do get to the most advanced difficulty exercises? Does higher bodyweight = more resistance? I'm completely ignorant of this type of thing. I prefer bodyweight exercise to weights but would like a realistic idea of the limitations with making such a choice, with regards to my goals.As I understand it the body is capable of lifting far over its bodyweight, which obviously can't be done with bodyweight exercises, so that's one limitation.
5 foot 9
Weight:145 lbs
Goal:Leaner physique, maybe gain a little weight
Just wondering how far you can go with bodyweight exercises alone? What sort of physique can you expect assuming you do get to the most advanced difficulty exercises? Does higher bodyweight = more resistance? I'm completely ignorant of this type of thing. I prefer bodyweight exercise to weights but would like a realistic idea of the limitations with making such a choice, with regards to my goals.As I understand it the body is capable of lifting far over its bodyweight, which obviously can't be done with bodyweight exercises, so that's one limitation.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
You won't achieve shit from doing bodyweight exercises. Stop being a sissy, get to a gym, and don't ever do machines. Those are for girls.
parrotbeak
Member
Girls shouldn't use machines either.Jason's Ultimatum said:
Jason's Ultimatum
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Yeah. They should continue doing their wide stand squats wearing tight spandex.
Gvaz said:
Well I can tell you that that seems pretty darn high for a bmr. I'm 5'1'' and weighed over 260lbs when I started. My BMR was in the low 2k's. I was cutting at about 2000cal/day (I'd usually get slightly more in the 2200 range) and I lost an average of 1/4lb per day over the course of about 4 months, it has slowed down a ton now that I'm in the low 200lb range.
FallingEdge
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MjFrancis said:
Just made these. Right now, it is a huge gooey mess and going by your post, so far, so good. I will prolly eat one tonight or wait till tomorrow. Pretty excited haha.
RPT day 1 in the books. Pretty exhausted. Feels great to be back in the gym.
Yeah that's a definite no-go on me doing two a days today. Just tried running four miles on the treadmill at my gym. Five minutes in and I fell off the treadmill because I had a coughing fit because I'm so sick.
On the plus side, the gym sent me home with a voucher for a free body massage. The only masseuse there is a hot Russian and she always gives happy endings.
Great success.
On the plus side, the gym sent me home with a voucher for a free body massage. The only masseuse there is a hot Russian and she always gives happy endings.
Great success.
parrotbeak
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What gym is this?Mully said:
parrotbeak
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Not even at the end of the massage?Mully said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mully said:
wat?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mully said:
I'm more on about the hot russian giving happy endings.
I need one of them in my golds.
parrotbeak
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I don't think that's the part that surprised him.Mully said:
I feel like this might be one of those cultural things, like she thinks that's normal and no one's corrected her. Have gotten tons of massages and never got a hint or anything of the possibility of more. I know guys who have gotten the happy ending massages, but usually those places aren't licensed and can't use the word "massage" in their ads.
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