Jason's Ultimatum
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I've posted countless pics of me shirtless. You're no match for me. I look AWESOME.
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I've posted countless pics of me shirtless. You're no match for me. I look AWESOME.
Francis and I posted a few links on intermittent fasting above which people in this thread seem to enjoy.
I myself like a more low-carb diet, such as ketogenic diets or primal diets. Both tend to promote more fats, protein, and other simple foods, while attempting to reduce excess sugar and garbage carbohydrates.
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Jason's Ultimatum
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Why wear gloves? You mad bro?
Jason's Ultimatum
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That's a facile argument. And a bit esoteric.
Thanks man - will def check this out.
DR2K
Banned
Searched, very nice. Can't wait till I drop the rest of this weight and am able to show mine.
It's been a quick minute since I've posted. Rehab on the knee was rough, but I'm back squatting again. Icing daily and keeping on NSAIDs helps. I really wish there was a way to take a knife to the damn joint to fix the problem. Oh well, I'll be back to squatting 315x5 in a few months. Seriously, people, get some ice.
You know, with all the discussion of programing, newbie training, and suggesting what people should do, we often get wrapped up in forgetting that most people are easily swayed. It's important to remember that in most things, especially fitness, people don't know that they've heard something wrong. And, considering even Rip himself admits most of what we do training wise is based on somebody else's anecdotal evidence and not years and years of peer researched science, we shouldn't get too angry about people asking questions. Some guy who looks good does "X" thing and "X" thing worked for him so why should the noob do "y" when "x" looks like it works so well. Keeping calm it's probably best when explaining why "X" isn't best. Hell, supplements are a billion dollar industry and most of that crap doesn't work. We shouldn't be surprised that somebody doesn't believe a particular methodology works.
Especially, considering, there are real enemies out there to get your internet rage out.
Like this, for example.
Or, say, this.
Those videos. THAT SHOULD BE RAGED AT. Well, that and flat out lying.
You know, with all the discussion of programing, newbie training, and suggesting what people should do, we often get wrapped up in forgetting that most people are easily swayed. It's important to remember that in most things, especially fitness, people don't know that they've heard something wrong. And, considering even Rip himself admits most of what we do training wise is based on somebody else's anecdotal evidence and not years and years of peer researched science, we shouldn't get too angry about people asking questions. Some guy who looks good does "X" thing and "X" thing worked for him so why should the noob do "y" when "x" looks like it works so well. Keeping calm it's probably best when explaining why "X" isn't best. Hell, supplements are a billion dollar industry and most of that crap doesn't work. We shouldn't be surprised that somebody doesn't believe a particular methodology works.
Especially, considering, there are real enemies out there to get your internet rage out.
Like this, for example.
Or, say, this.
Those videos. THAT SHOULD BE RAGED AT. Well, that and flat out lying.
Age: 22
Height: 6'0 1/2
Weight: 220
Goal: 175 ~10% BF, ripped
Current Training Schedule: N/A Previously this
Current Training Equipment Available: 20lb - 50lb bands, pec/quad home gym, access to school gym Jan. 4th
Comments:
Seems like I need help in the fitness department again. Long story short, I've dealt with being fat/obese pretty much 90% of my life, which of course was a huge hit to my self esteem growing up, as I was always extremely self conscious about weight. Being made fun of for being fat didn't help either, neither did those telling me that I was simply born fat and there was nothing I could do about it, pretty much giving me a free pass in my mind to take down all the food I could see.
Well fast forward to my freshman year in University(college for US) and I finally got to the point where I said enough was enough. Over the next 2 years I dropped from being 270 pounds to 185 pounds, through a mixture of dieting and working out. I almost got to my goal of getting to about 10% BF and 175 pounds,(15% BF was the lowest I ever got) but I guess I lost motivation last year and just stopped being consistent with my dieting. Over the next year I gained about 30 pounds(215 pounds) and during the summer I once again said enough was enough and dropped to about 195 pounds. Once school started again however, everything got thrown out the window again and I gained a massive amount of weight, where I now sit at a terrible 220 pounds(maybe even more after the Christmas dinners) I'm now at a point where I now I'll never truly feel good about myself unless I lose this weight. My goal is still the same, to get to 175 pounds and have a BF% lower than 10%, but I need a consistent diet and workout schedule to get me going, which is the main reason why I think I wasn't as consistent as I could have been in the past. I usually get my workouts from bodybuilding.com, but the a main problem I found with the site was that the experts always gave dieting schedules that are totally unrealistic for a lot of people. I for example can't be buying ends on ends of skinless chicken breasts for me to munch on, which a good 95% of the diets on the site include. This usually leads to me feeling hungry and in situations where I could probably whip up something quick and healthy to settle myself down, I would usually take a trip to Domino's, where I would get 2 medium pizzas all for myself or some other fast food place. Without a clear schedule I also tend to eat snacks at random times, where they quickly add up without me really being aware of it and by the time it's night I've probably downed a good 3k calories worth of food.
So are there any recommended diets(I should really just say lifestyle change, as that's what I'm ultimately going for) that would help me attain my goal? I also don't want to be a skinny 175, as I have worked out in the past and still have some of my muscular frame left from before, so any diet that would avoid me losing large amounts of muscle would be much appreciated.
To the working out side of this, I've been thinking of using that site Fitocracy in conjunction with a a good workout program for maximizing fat loss, and building muscle. I'm not sure if I should continue using the old workout program or just start fresh. Right now though most of the exercises I can't do as I'm at home for the holidays and not in College where the gym I use is at, so I'm stuck with some bands,(20lb, 30lb, 40lb, and 50lb) as well as my home pec/quad machine and of course my own body. How would you advise I keep active for the remainder of the holiday before I have access to a real gym again?(School starts on the 4th)
Honestly, any advise to help me get back on the right track would be much appreciated, I'm tired of being fat and being so self conscious of my weight that it affects my self esteem. I want to be able to take off my shirt without being scared and embarrassed of being judged on how fat I am.
Height: 6'0 1/2
Weight: 220
Goal: 175 ~10% BF, ripped
Current Training Schedule: N/A Previously this
Current Training Equipment Available: 20lb - 50lb bands, pec/quad home gym, access to school gym Jan. 4th
Comments:
Seems like I need help in the fitness department again. Long story short, I've dealt with being fat/obese pretty much 90% of my life, which of course was a huge hit to my self esteem growing up, as I was always extremely self conscious about weight. Being made fun of for being fat didn't help either, neither did those telling me that I was simply born fat and there was nothing I could do about it, pretty much giving me a free pass in my mind to take down all the food I could see.
Well fast forward to my freshman year in University(college for US) and I finally got to the point where I said enough was enough. Over the next 2 years I dropped from being 270 pounds to 185 pounds, through a mixture of dieting and working out. I almost got to my goal of getting to about 10% BF and 175 pounds,(15% BF was the lowest I ever got) but I guess I lost motivation last year and just stopped being consistent with my dieting. Over the next year I gained about 30 pounds(215 pounds) and during the summer I once again said enough was enough and dropped to about 195 pounds. Once school started again however, everything got thrown out the window again and I gained a massive amount of weight, where I now sit at a terrible 220 pounds(maybe even more after the Christmas dinners) I'm now at a point where I now I'll never truly feel good about myself unless I lose this weight. My goal is still the same, to get to 175 pounds and have a BF% lower than 10%, but I need a consistent diet and workout schedule to get me going, which is the main reason why I think I wasn't as consistent as I could have been in the past. I usually get my workouts from bodybuilding.com, but the a main problem I found with the site was that the experts always gave dieting schedules that are totally unrealistic for a lot of people. I for example can't be buying ends on ends of skinless chicken breasts for me to munch on, which a good 95% of the diets on the site include. This usually leads to me feeling hungry and in situations where I could probably whip up something quick and healthy to settle myself down, I would usually take a trip to Domino's, where I would get 2 medium pizzas all for myself or some other fast food place. Without a clear schedule I also tend to eat snacks at random times, where they quickly add up without me really being aware of it and by the time it's night I've probably downed a good 3k calories worth of food.
So are there any recommended diets(I should really just say lifestyle change, as that's what I'm ultimately going for) that would help me attain my goal? I also don't want to be a skinny 175, as I have worked out in the past and still have some of my muscular frame left from before, so any diet that would avoid me losing large amounts of muscle would be much appreciated.
To the working out side of this, I've been thinking of using that site Fitocracy in conjunction with a a good workout program for maximizing fat loss, and building muscle. I'm not sure if I should continue using the old workout program or just start fresh. Right now though most of the exercises I can't do as I'm at home for the holidays and not in College where the gym I use is at, so I'm stuck with some bands,(20lb, 30lb, 40lb, and 50lb) as well as my home pec/quad machine and of course my own body. How would you advise I keep active for the remainder of the holiday before I have access to a real gym again?(School starts on the 4th)
Honestly, any advise to help me get back on the right track would be much appreciated, I'm tired of being fat and being so self conscious of my weight that it affects my self esteem. I want to be able to take off my shirt without being scared and embarrassed of being judged on how fat I am.
lol that was during my workout, and yes im mad!
TheKaeptain
Banned
Ok I just caught up with this page. I find it funny that one of the ruder members of NFL gaf was complaining about you guys.
Rip's main issue with CF, as is mine and several other peoples', is two fold:
1. Their main staff is composed of self righteous ass holes that flat out lie about how effective CF is (See Greg Glassman's quote about adding 500lbs to somebody dead in a year and 400lbs to somebody's squat doing nothing but low weight high rep deads) (also their head of "training" getting into a argument with Greg Everette, Robb Wolf, and Rip) and..
2. People who do CF thinking it's the end all be all of athletic development when it's, honestly, just an average, at best, conditioning program.
I've never head him say that CF set him back personally, but I know it's been discussed that CF will set you back in terms of strength if that's ALL you do.
Look into a book called A guide to flexible dieting by Lyle McDonald. It's a reasonable approach to dieting that can be maintained indefinitely.
To add to your contribution, I found the quote I was referring to. It was from the reddit AMA:
Mark Rippetoe said:
I need to get back to my own place, all I'm doing here at home is eating 
I chalk it up to some boredom however.... and the fact there is a mountain of food available at anytime.
As for physique, I guess I should take a new new photo, but this was me not long ago.
http://i.imgur.com/YTZCp.jpg
I chalk it up to some boredom however.... and the fact there is a mountain of food available at anytime.As for physique, I guess I should take a new new photo, but this was me not long ago.
http://i.imgur.com/YTZCp.jpg
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
So I just realized yesterday that I am a hardgainer (I know, this is like the most obvious thing ever, but I didn't even realize there were different body types for gaining mass until I randomly stumbled on an article yesterday). Now my whole life makes sense - I have worked out for years without any significant gains, and I guess it's mainly because I wasn't stuffing as much food down my gullet as I possibly could.
What a waste of years of training. Once this damn wrist sprain heals up I am going to go on a training and food binge. We'll see if I can't finally put some muscle on these bones.
What a waste of years of training. Once this damn wrist sprain heals up I am going to go on a training and food binge. We'll see if I can't finally put some muscle on these bones.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Mines in here somewhere too, twice. I'm the exact opposite of Jason, lol.
All your answers are in the OP.
parrotbeak
Member
WTF
Should be criminal. These people are going to get seriously injured and for no fucking reason. In that 2nd vid, are they being taught to power clean and press with mixed grip, switching grip while holding the bar against their stomachs? Is that really what they are being taught here? Mind fucking blown.
He mentioned it when he was on reddit. I think it set him back 5 years and he's still recovering. He didn't get into specifics about what happened.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Amy's hot
As for bandwork, I'm sure there's some stuff you can do (band curls, band pull apart), however I've been leery of bands ever since I heard about how a guy nearly lost his balls after it snapped and hit him. Why not find a local fitness center or some cheap gym you can join for a few days?
EDit: someone posted about getting a deadlifting belt earlier. How did that workout for you?
parrotbeak
Member
Not bad and seems like she's honestly trying to do good, just so fucking misguided.
Lamel
Banned
That second video is horrifying...and sad.
L0st Id3ntity
Member
I don't know how to google this so I'll ask it here:
23y/o
5"10
160lbs
9% body fat
2 years ago I began lifting weights, I had noob gains then stopped and went back to regular exercise.
For the last year I did high intensity exercises, including insanity/asylum dvds, I feel much stronger than I ever did, and I don't think I've lost any muscles from that noob gains period, in fact my chest is wider and my back is bigger.
Starting next February I plan to go back to weight lifting to gain some more muscles, should I expect quicker gains because of my higher strength/endurance? Does general improved fitness help in lifting heavier weights?
Thanks.
23y/o
5"10
160lbs
9% body fat
2 years ago I began lifting weights, I had noob gains then stopped and went back to regular exercise.
For the last year I did high intensity exercises, including insanity/asylum dvds, I feel much stronger than I ever did, and I don't think I've lost any muscles from that noob gains period, in fact my chest is wider and my back is bigger.
Starting next February I plan to go back to weight lifting to gain some more muscles, should I expect quicker gains because of my higher strength/endurance? Does general improved fitness help in lifting heavier weights?
Thanks.
Drealmcc0y
Banned
After 3 days of eating shit it was really fucking tough getting back into the swing of it. Doing 45 minutes of biceps and back exercises wasnt too bad but the RPM biking sessions right after was hell. Its amazing what a few days of nothing does to your body.
Fuck, some of the crossfit videos linked + other related are truly infuriating.. People lifting with their spine seems common.
Edit: forgot to say - feelsgoodbro.jpg. I've been home for Christmas and had a lot of positive talk about my gymming/training, currently sitting at 80kg, ~13%bf, I'm decently bulked, going to push a lot more next year.
Edit: forgot to say - feelsgoodbro.jpg. I've been home for Christmas and had a lot of positive talk about my gymming/training, currently sitting at 80kg, ~13%bf, I'm decently bulked, going to push a lot more next year.
They're attempting to teach a fat bar clean. This, generally, is a strongman workout designed around increasing grip strength on heavy and awkward objects. As with most strongman movements, you generally should be familiar with the basic lift and, well, also pretty fucking strong.
You can fat bar clean up to the stomach with a mixed grip, but the transfer to the jerk portion should be rather quick. If you can't clean the weight normally you have no business doing it with a fat bar. It's that "do a bunch of random shit with no semblance of direction or goal" that gets people injured.
And, yes, Amy is hot. You can get trained by Amy at Crossfit Southie for the LOW LOW PRICE of only $149.00 a month for two one hour classes per week! What a deal!! The scary thing is her credentials (MS in Clinical Exercise, B.S. Kinesiology and Health Science) should be enough to show her that what she's doing probably isn't safe for her client. However, that cool grand she spent on her level 2 CF cert showed her the "proper" way of doing things, I suppose.
I've been described as grizzly bear, caveman, and gorilla like
No, if you truly retained all your muscle, then the gains will become slower. You make great progress at first, but then it's all about diminishing returns.
I have the frame and physique of Al Kavadlo with just a portion of his athleticism and an even smaller fraction of his tattoos but with a beard twice as awesome as what the Mountain Man has. Currently 172ish pounds at six feet tall as I've been packing on a slight winter coat around my midsection.
entremet
Member
MJFrancis, I thought your were talking about this exchange on Reddit. It's not Rippetoe, but a trainer who found CF to be dubious in their promises.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/n5oni/three_years_of_crossfit_3x5_lifts_531_olympic/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/n5oni/three_years_of_crossfit_3x5_lifts_531_olympic/
checking in here. I haven't been at the gym for 3 months. Dislocated my shoulder playing football and have been rehabbing my shoulder.
I gotta say, Thank God for machines. There is absolutely no way I can do a back squat with the condition my shoulder is in. With a squat machine, I'm at least able to work on something heavy.
Getting injured really sucks but I'm confident that I will be able to get back to where I was before.
Reading this thread really help keep me motivated to be active. If there's one advice I can give.... it's that if you're injured, take it slow. Don't rush into trying to lift back to your max. You can do more damage... possibly permanent. Missing a few weeks to heal your injury is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
I gotta say, Thank God for machines. There is absolutely no way I can do a back squat with the condition my shoulder is in. With a squat machine, I'm at least able to work on something heavy.
Getting injured really sucks but I'm confident that I will be able to get back to where I was before.
Reading this thread really help keep me motivated to be active. If there's one advice I can give.... it's that if you're injured, take it slow. Don't rush into trying to lift back to your max. You can do more damage... possibly permanent. Missing a few weeks to heal your injury is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
Stormtrooper30
Member
Quick question:
I'm looking for something to eat, drink before a workout that will boost my energy and encourage me to continue working out. I find that I have the willpower, but sometimes lack the energy during the day to do my workout. I'm not talking about creatine or NOExplode or any of those weird enhancers. Just something to raise my energy level without cramming me full of sugar or other fillings.
I'm looking for something to eat, drink before a workout that will boost my energy and encourage me to continue working out. I find that I have the willpower, but sometimes lack the energy during the day to do my workout. I'm not talking about creatine or NOExplode or any of those weird enhancers. Just something to raise my energy level without cramming me full of sugar or other fillings.
parrotbeak
Member
Oh those were fat bars. i thought the bar looked big cuz they were 9 year old girls.
RustyNails
Member
So my wife wants to lose some of her thunder thighs :\ I kinda like them, but whatever makes her happy. Atleast she can grow them back again But anyways, I understand that there is no such thing as spot reduction, but she would like to tone her butt and lose some thigh fat (especially inner). She's been on calorie counting diet for a week. Here's her vitals:
5'2
125lbs
25 years old
She's a good runner though and she's been working out for a medium to long time (can jog 4-5 miles). Her upper body is pretty fit though. Any advice and tips over what routine she should have?
But anyways, I understand that there is no such thing as spot reduction, but she would like to tone her butt and lose some thigh fat (especially inner). She's been on calorie counting diet for a week. Here's her vitals:5'2
125lbs
25 years old
She's a good runner though and she's been working out for a medium to long time (can jog 4-5 miles). Her upper body is pretty fit though. Any advice and tips over what routine she should have?
Echoes of Pink
Member
I have a new decision that I have to make that I was hoping I could get some input on. I've been making good progress on SL5X5 and should use up all of the available weight I currently have for my home gym (~225 pounds) on the deadlift in the next month or so. My set is standard and I will need to upgrade to the olympic variety.
I've already been investigating different 300 pound olympic sets to purchase and it seems that I have three options:
1. Hunt craigslist for the next month or so and hope to find a good deal. I've already called a used sporting goods store and a few posts on CL and no luck so far. This also hampered by the fact that I don't have a car, so it'll will be more challenging to investigate and pick up anything I come across.
2. Purchase a lower end, new set and eventually upgrade the bar to something better. I've seen the two following choices:
Set 1
Set 2
3. Spend large and get higher quality set:
Set 3
What do you guys think is the best course of action?
I've already been investigating different 300 pound olympic sets to purchase and it seems that I have three options:
1. Hunt craigslist for the next month or so and hope to find a good deal. I've already called a used sporting goods store and a few posts on CL and no luck so far. This also hampered by the fact that I don't have a car, so it'll will be more challenging to investigate and pick up anything I come across.
2. Purchase a lower end, new set and eventually upgrade the bar to something better. I've seen the two following choices:
Set 1
Set 2
3. Spend large and get higher quality set:
Set 3
What do you guys think is the best course of action?
I would buy local (probably go with Dick's) because you're going to get bent over the barrel on shipping charges for 300+ pounds of weights. Just get something that is affordable. You aren't going to be needing a top notch competition quality bar for just working out at home, until you are pulling/pushing large amounts of weight.
Echoes of Pink
Member
The Set 3 price included shipping which is nice. I'd be able to rent a Zipcar to pick up 1 or 2. Thanks for the feedback.
No reason to spend $400 on 300lbs worth if weight, all those sets are the same.
Luscious LeftFoot
Member
So my wife wants to lose some of her thunder thighs :\ I kinda like them, but whatever makes her happy. Atleast she can grow them back again
5'2
125lbs
25 years old
She's a good runner though and she's been working out for a medium to long time (can jog 4-5 miles). Her upper body is pretty fit though. Any advice and tips over what routine she should have?
Full body routine like Starting Strength, maybe with a few tweaks depending on her strength level - push-ups @ first instead of press. Dumbbells press, instead of overhead press etc.
-Low reps seem to alleviate their fear of getting "big and bulky"
-They're in and out of the gym fairly quickly.
-All the Lower body work targets what they perceive as their "trouble spots"
-GIRLS SQUATTING IS HOT AS FUCK
Go with 1 or 2 to save on the shipping. Otherwise, all 3 are around the same price with the shipping. Good luck with your home gym endeavor.
So my wife wants to lose some of her thunder thighs :\ I kinda like them, but whatever makes her happy. Atleast she can grow them back again
5'2
125lbs
25 years old
She's a good runner though and she's been working out for a medium to long time (can jog 4-5 miles). Her upper body is pretty fit though. Any advice and tips over what routine she should have?
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2011/09/getting-girls-to-train-3/
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2011/09/getting-girls-to-train-2/
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2011/08/getting-girls-to-train/
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