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[FallingEdge]

Instant packs? Milk?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DIM8NK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I like those. No instant packs for me as I prefer to make it using hot water and a pot. Milk is fine as well.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

What kind of oatmeal are you guys eating? Wanna start eating it for breakfast.

Just regular quaker oats. I buy the quick 1-minute one.

If you want suggestions on what to add:

-1 cup of oatmeal
-slice up a banana
-flax seed
-vanilla whey protein
-1/4 cup chopped pecans
-blue berries

Over 700 calories.

 

[deadbeef]

What kind of oatmeal are you guys eating? Wanna start eating it for breakfast.

I use the quick cook oats. 1 scoop vanilla protein powder, walnuts, and honey or brown sugar for a bit of sweetness. Blueberries and walnuts are good too

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I use the quick cook oats. 1 scoop vanilla protein powder, walnuts, and honey or brown sugar for a bit of sweetness. Blueberries and walnuts are good too

I never even thought of tossing some whey in my oatmeal. That's a fantastic idea.

 

[Enco]

I much prefer having oats with cold milk and no heating.

When heated the texture tastes awful to me. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

This is what I have:

Treat it as a normal cereal and enjoy.

Tried these for a while too:

Tasted even better but I doubt they're as good for you.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I use the quick cook oats. 1 scoop vanilla protein powder, walnuts, and honey or brown sugar for a bit of sweetness. Blueberries and walnuts are good too

I use honey if I'm not using whey protein. I think it tastes better, too. Strawberries is good, too.

Feels good to eat a healthy breakfast, man.

 

[blackflag]

Supplements were mentioned earlier and my thoughts are a bit different.

Protein is the only necessary supplement.

Creatine is good

BCAA is not BS at all and does work. It is scientifically backed up and it works for me that is for sure. I use Xtend.

fish oil is good

Multivitamin...of course

D-Aspartic Acid - Good for boosting natural test levels. Especially if you getting old like me. Totally unneccesary but it works. Needs to be cycled.

ECA stack - Definitely works.

Pre-workout - Just gives you energy...take it if you need to.

Glutamine - Worthless if you are otherwise healthy.

 

[Enco]

Supplements were mentioned earlier and my thoughts are a bit different.

Protein is the only necessary supplement.

Creatine is good

BCAA is not BS at all and does work. It is scientifically backed up and it works for me that is for sure. I use Xtend.

fish oil is good

Multivitamin...of course

D-Aspartic Acid - Good for boosting natural test levels. Especially if you getting old like me. Totally unneccesary but it works. Needs to be cycled.

ECA stack - Definitely works.

Pre-workout - Just gives you energy...take it if you need to.

Glutamine - Worthless if you are otherwise healthy.

Don't forget gas!

Your last comment is true for all supplements. Sure there are one or two that are good but overall if you have a great diet you don't need any supplements.

 

[blackflag]

Don't forget gas!

Your last comment is true for all supplements. Sure there are one or two that are good but overall if you have a great diet you don't need any supplements.

Well my first comment was that you don't need anything except protein, which I guess you technically don't even need but it is cheaper than actual food.

 

[Enco]

Well my first comment was that you don't need anything except protein, which I guess you technically don't even need but it is cheaper than actual food.

Yea I saw that

Just so many supplements in a row made my brain go crazy.

 

[Petrie]

Those of you eating quick oats in order to be healthy, they really aren't much different from any old sugary cereal. The glycemic index on them is similar to something like Golden Grahams. They might taste healthier to you, but when it comes to the actual effect on insulin production and such, they are anything but.

Rolled (non-quick) oats have a substantially better glycmic index and are much better for you because of it.

Tried it and threw the rest of the bottle away. Was disgusting.

Why not just get the pills? Same effect and you never taste it.

 

[parrotbeak]

I don't really like oatmeal except when it is whole and raw with milk. I just eat it cold and uncooked with some bananas and protein powder mixed in. But I hardly eat it at all. Get my fiber from veggies and avocados.

 

[MjFrancis]

Wow, a lot's gone on in this thread over the past few days. I lost power for a while so I'm out of the loop. I got a generator after two days because I didn't want the 350+ pounds of meat I have in my freezers to spoil. Had to cut back a tree in my yard that fell on my garage and my house so I spent days screwing with that and pretending I know how to reshingle those damaged portions of my roof. Almost five full days later and I got power back and I'm able to enjoy a semblance of sedentary lavishness once more.

My training has continued well despite a nice list of injuries from working outside in the snow and ice. To prevent this from becoming a horrible man-child diary, I'll just say that a branch fell on my knee and it was enough to leave a tennis-ball-sized welt and make it look like I had a new mutant quad muscle. I couldn't do a smooth pistol squat on my right leg without writhing in pain but I anticipate I'll be better in time for more tomorrow.

---

I've been doing a lot more of these lately:

and I found myself considering Wendler's thoughts on the movement.

Hanging Leg Raises

These are popular with people who want to improve their ability to swing their legs and knees up while doing nothing for their abs, yet still want to call it ab work. To combat this, hang from a bar, and with straight legs, bring your feet to the bar. Return to the starting position, come to a complete stop, and begin the movement again. When you do it this way, you’ll no longer ask about sets and reps because your body will tell you when a set is over.

 

[reilo]

https://twitter.com/#!/shitmeatheadsay

Sitting in class doing seated calf raises with the desk because I'm too addicted to being in the gym @ShitMeatheadSay

If you're havin problems, I feel sorry for ya brah... I've got 99 problems but a #Bench ain't one. #NationalChestMonday

 

[Enco]

Why not just get the pills? Same effect and you never taste it.

Not too bothered about it really.

In other news, I still can't touch my toes. I find it hard to keep my back straight when bending with my knees locked out. Don't know how to straighten my back...

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

fucking fuck, double.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I've been doing a lot more of these lately:

and I found myself considering Wendler's thoughts on the movement.

I do those on deadlift day, shit destroys my core, lol. (Can't quite get to the bar (door frame) with my feet yet though)

https://twitter.com/#!/shitmeatheadsay

The peanut butter one now is right on the money.

1) Acquire large spoon. 2) Scoop said large spoon into large container of peanut butter. 3) Indulge. 4) Repeat. #NationalPeanutButterDay

 

[deadbeef]

I do those on deadlift day, shit destroys my core, lol. (Can't quite get to the bar (door frame) with my feet yet though)

Yeah, my body says done at about 5-10 reps lol. Those are tough. Also on DL day by then your grip is fried

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Yeah, my body says done at about 5-10 reps lol. Those are tough. Also on DL day by then your grip is fried

Yep, most definitely.

Last week the during the weekend (obviously after deadlifts) my entire back had doms. There wasn't one part of my back that wasn't hit. I'm really digging 5/3/1 with big but boring. At first glance it would seem "light" and like it would miss some things, but it didn't miss shit.

 

[MjFrancis]

Doing 5/3/1 deadlifts and then 5x10 @ 40%-60% of your 1RM doesn't miss a damn thing. Don't care who you are or how much you lift. This will beat you up.

 

[FallingEdge]

Yep, most definitely.

Last week the during the weekend (obviously after deadlifts) my entire back had doms. There wasn't one part of my back that wasn't hit. I'm really digging 5/3/1 with big but boring. At first glance it would seem "light" and like it would miss some things, but it didn't miss shit.

Ha. I thought I was the only one that had grip problems doing hanging leg raises after deadlifts.

4 reps @ 165 for OHP. I can get 5 next week. I can feel it! And a question regarding front raises. Do you want to do both arms at a time or just focus on one? Or does it even matter?

 

[ezrarh]

I got a generator after two days because I didn't want the 350+ pounds of meat I have in my freezers to spoil.

How many elks did you kill and how big is your freezer? Goddamn.

Anyway, started wendlers program yesterday and I did 5x10 good mornings (extremely light weight) instead of more deadlifts at 50%. I'm feeling soreness in my hamstrings which I assume is normal with good mornings?

 

[OG Kush]

Any good recipes for making your own protein bars? I remember someone in this thread makes them. Ones with low sugar preferred! low-carb wouldn't hurt as well, but its not that big of a deal to me if there arent any decent low carb protein bars.
thanks

Rolled (non-quick) oats have a substantially better glycmic index and are much better for you because of it.

I use those quaker 2 minute microwave ones. So i'm guessing they're the quick ones. How long do rolled ones take to make?

 

[lenovox1]

I use those quaker 2 minute microwave ones. So i'm guessing they're the quick ones. How long do rolled ones take to make?

Old Fashioned Quaker Oats (or any rolled oat) will take about 2 1/2 to 3 minutes in the microwave; while whole, steal-cut oats take around 10 minutes.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

350lbs is a shit load of meat.

I've always wanted to try bison.

 

[Enco]

Any good recipes for making your own protein bars? I remember someone in this thread makes them. Ones with low sugar preferred! low-carb wouldn't hurt as well, but its not that big of a deal to me if there arent any decent low carb protein bars.
thanks


I use those quaker 2 minute microwave ones. So i'm guessing they're the quick ones. How long do rolled ones take to make?

I remember trying to make some and they turned out complete garbage.

Can't remember who posted it but there was definitely a recipe here. There are some youtube vids too.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Ha. I thought I was the only one that had grip problems doing hanging leg raises after deadlifts.

4 reps @ 165 for OHP. I can get 5 next week. I can feel it! And a question regarding front raises. Do you want to do both arms at a time or just focus on one? Or does it even matter?

When I still did front raises I did them one arm at a time alternating per rep.

Doing 5/3/1 deadlifts and then 5x10 @ 40%-60% of your 1RM doesn't miss a damn thing. Don't care who you are or how much you lift. This will beat you up.

Oh, it did, and I did krock rows to offset bench the next day too.

How many elks did you kill and how big is your freezer? Goddamn.

Anyway, started wendlers program yesterday and I did 5x10 good mornings (extremely light weight) instead of more deadlifts at 50%. I'm feeling soreness in my hamstrings which I assume is normal with good mornings?

Good mornings done correctly hit hamstrings, glutes and a little bit of lower back, so yeah, it's a good thing. I do them on my squat days to balance the quad work.

 

[balddemon]

That'll be pretty sick if you can find a comp near you Shogun. Good luck if you do!

In my fitness related endeavors, I decided to focus on one exercise per day, and just do a shit ton of them through out the day. Like yesterday, I think I did somewhere close to 150ish pullups (close grip). My lats are feeling it for sure. Today I'm just banging out pushups whenever. Done 5 sets of 25 and 3 sets of 30 so far. These are like strict form? Arms nearly parallel to my body, elbows just about touching my sides. I'm gonna feel those tomorrow too lol.

Tomorrow I think I'll do some legs and abs. 1 legged squats and planks or something. Working out well so far. Getting cut to shreds, which is my goal. The medicine I'm taking probably helps that too, since I'm not really hungry anymore and only eat fruit during the day.

 

[HarryHengst]

Any good recipes for making your own protein bars? I remember someone in this thread makes them. Ones with low sugar preferred! low-carb wouldn't hurt as well, but its not that big of a deal to me if there arent any decent low carb protein bars.

This seems decent.

Per Serving: 247 Calories; 10g Fat; 30g Protein; 9g Carbohydrate; 3g Dietary Fiber; 6g Net Carbs

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

That'll be pretty sick if you can find a comp near you Shogun. Good luck if you do!

In my fitness related endeavors, I decided to focus on one exercise per day, and just do a shit ton of them through out the day. Like yesterday, I think I did somewhere close to 150ish pullups (close grip). My lats are feeling it for sure. Today I'm just banging out pushups whenever. Done 5 sets of 25 and 3 sets of 30 so far. These are like strict form? Arms nearly parallel to my body, elbows just about touching my sides. I'm gonna feel those tomorrow too lol.

Tomorrow I think I'll do some legs and abs. 1 legged squats and planks or something. Working out well so far. Getting cut to shreds, which is my goal. The medicine I'm taking probably helps that too, since I'm not really hungry anymore and only eat fruit during the day.

The pushups you're doing sound like they are mostly focusing on tricep rather than your chest.

When I do pushups I do like I'm benching, try to keep your arms/elbows out to about a 45 degree angle from your body. That is if you wanna do that. Just tossing it out there.

 

[balddemon]

The pushups you're doing sound like they are mostly focusing on tricep rather than your chest.

When I do pushups I do like I'm benching, try to keep your arms/elbows out to about a 45 degree angle from your body. That is if you wanna do that. Just tossing it out there.

Yeah I'm definitely feeling fatigued in my shoulders and triceps. Little bit in my chest. My plan is to do a different type of the exercise every day. So like next pushup day I'll do something like what you suggested. Eventually I'll do them all in one day, but for now I'm trying to strengthen my wrists and shoulders before I ruin those. Already had to take a break cuz of my wrists.

 

[MjFrancis]

How many elks did you kill and how big is your freezer? Goddamn.

My meat freezer is vast! Not vast enough that the freezer above my fridge isn't stuffed as well, though, lol.

I'd say 95% of the meat I have in the freezers are a cow. Roughly half of a single cow.

No game meat this year, though last year I was lavished with more elk, deer and bear than I knew what to do with.

Just having this much meat sustains my beard. I'm sure of it.

Any good recipes for making your own protein bars? I remember someone in this thread makes them. Ones with low sugar preferred! low-carb wouldn't hurt as well, but its not that big of a deal to me if there arent any decent low carb protein bars.
thanks

I had recipes for a protein meal bar but they are very far from low carb. Bunches and gobs of oats don't make for a low-carb friendly meal bar, but they are good for post-workout nutrition. I can repost the recipe if you are interested.

 

[Timedog]

10 years off and I'm not incredibly smaller than I used to be, I'm still a big guy, but I'm about HALF as strong as I used to be, in pretty much everything. Used to do barbell curls 10 x 120lbs and now I'm at 60. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu. Wonder how long it's gonna take to be strong again

Also I have no idea what weight to do squats at cause I always did leg press back in the day. I don't even know if I could rep the bar with two 45's on it now...

 

[rando14]

10 years off and I'm not incredibly smaller than I used to be, I'm still a big guy, but I'm about HALF as strong as I used to be, in pretty much everything. Used to do barbell curls 10 x 120lbs and now I'm at 60. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu. Wonder how long it's gonna take to be strong again

Not as long as someone who's doing your weight but just starting out.

 

[Petrie]

Fuck yeah moment of the day:

Going to BJs and getting 13lbs of fresh chicken breasts for $13, since the sell by date is the 27th, and 2 awesome cuts of strip steak, 3lbs total for $8 for the same reason. Will freeze the extra chicken and feast on the rest!

Fuck yeah!

 

[Mr.City]

10 years off and I'm not incredibly smaller than I used to be, I'm still a big guy, but I'm about HALF as strong as I used to be, in pretty much everything. Used to do barbell curls 10 x 120lbs and now I'm at 60. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu. Wonder how long it's gonna take to be strong again

Also I have no idea what weight to do squats at cause I always did leg press back in the day. I don't even know if I could rep the bar with two 45's on it now...

Hearing this, I wonder

• How did you train before?
• What happened that caused you to regress/not train for 10 years?
• How are you training now?

So, I squatted today with a couple dudes who are competing in a meet this Saturday. Apparently, my knees come in when I ascend. With a few cues, I manage to catch it somehow and now the sides of my ass and the area between my inner and the top of my knee cap is incredibly sore. I'm guessing those structures weren't used to bearing weight all at once.

Also, finished my creatine loading today. Now, I can't say for sure, but my work was amazing. My energy levels were amazing, and the weights felt light (until the squats.)

 

[balddemon]

What the hell timedog, how old are you?

Mr City, what did you do for creatine loading? How many grams per day for how long? Just wondering cuz I've got an unopened tub of creatine I might as well use since I want to gain weight. Don't really mind that it's mostly water weight

 

[lethial]

What the hell timedog, how old are you?

Mr City, what did you do for creatine loading? How many grams per day for how long? Just wondering cuz I've got an unopened tub of creatine I might as well use since I want to gain weight. Don't really mind that it's mostly water weight

Loading is a bunch of horse shit. Just another marketing ploy to use up it quicker so you buy it quicker. Take 5-10gr (usually two little scoops) per day. Stop when you want, you don't cycle it.

 

[Mr.City]

What the hell timedog, how old are you?

Mr City, what did you do for creatine loading? How many grams per day for how long? Just wondering cuz I've got an unopened tub of creatine I might as well use since I want to gain weight. Don't really mind that it's mostly water weight

I took 20 grams for 5 days and just use 5 grams for maintenance afterward.

 

[Anton Sugar]

It's amazing what a difference quality gear makes. My old belt was a cheapo from bodybuilding.com. The 13mm I got from EFTS is finally broken in and I got it a notch tighter today--wow, weight went up SMOOTH. I have a long torso and slight lordosis, so I have somewhat chronic back pain, but deads felt spectacular.

If you're considering getting a belt, don't skimp. It's worth it.

 

[rando14]

It's amazing what a difference quality gear makes. My old belt was a cheapo from bodybuilding.com. The 13mm I got from EFTS is finally broken in and I got it a notch tighter today--wow, weight went up SMOOTH. I have a long torso and slight lordosis, so I have somewhat chronic back pain, but deads felt spectacular.

If you're considering getting a belt, don't skimp. It's worth it.

Are you referring to this: http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=205&pid=3495

If so, yeah that looks legit. It might be time to pony up some dough and get myself a good belt.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

It's amazing what a difference quality gear makes. My old belt was a cheapo from bodybuilding.com. The 13mm I got from EFTS is finally broken in and I got it a notch tighter today--wow, weight went up SMOOTH. I have a long torso and slight lordosis, so I have somewhat chronic back pain, but deads felt spectacular.

If you're considering getting a belt, don't skimp. It's worth it.

Yep, it's a fantastic belt. I love it.

You actually were able to use it for deads? How the fuck did you get in position?

Are you referring to this: http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=205&pid=3495

If so, yeah that looks legit. It might be time to pony up some dough and get myself a good belt.

It's a great belt, you just gotta spend about a week breaking it in.

 

[grumble]

10 years off and I'm not incredibly smaller than I used to be, I'm still a big guy, but I'm about HALF as strong as I used to be, in pretty much everything. Used to do barbell curls 10 x 120lbs and now I'm at 60. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu. Wonder how long it's gonna take to be strong again

Also I have no idea what weight to do squats at cause I always did leg press back in the day. I don't even know if I could rep the bar with two 45's on it now...

If I were you'd I'd err to the light side.

1. Overconfidence. You might hurt yourself lifting weights that are heavier than you remembered.

2. DOMS. It'll be bad.

3. New exercises, like squats can be dangerous if improperly performed. Light = form practice.

 

[deadbeef]

Yep, it's a fantastic belt. I love it.

You actually were able to use it for deads? How the fuck did you get in position?

Seriously. He must be pretty thin because bending over in that thing is pretty uncomfortable for me and I'm not a big guy, 6' 215

 

[Anton Sugar]

Yep, it's a fantastic belt. I love it.

You actually were able to use it for deads? How the fuck did you get in position?

I'm about 5'10", 205 lbs.

It's my torso, brah. One of the few times I am happy I have a long torso and short legs.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I'm about 5'10", 205 lbs.

It's my torso, brah. One of the few times I am happy I have a long torso and short legs.

I've got that too, but I'm a tubby son of a bitch, so that's the issue.

I'll try to give that thing a go again, even if I look like an overstuffed cupcake.

 

[blackflag]

I got my EliteFTS belt on Friday and I dunno, a little worried to use it. Squats were so much easier to do with the belt on that I just took it off until like my 4th set of 5x5. I didn't want to make things too easy. Belt is way thicker than I thought. It hurt to deadlift with it but I think it'll be fine when it is broken in. That might take forever since I only use it on 2 sets for squat and 1 set for dl.

 

[Timedog]

Hearing this, I wonder

• How did you train before?
• What happened that caused you to regress/not train for 10 years?
• How are you training now?

1) Mostly bodybuilding stuff, which was dumb cause I was doing it mostly for Track and Field throwing, which I was really good at in high school.

2) Wasn't in Track and Field and didn't really care that much about working out anymore when I could spend more time trolling GAF instead.

3) I did a few training sessions of bodybuilding stuff like in the old days, but after reading the OP I'm switching to his beginner routine (where da calves at, OP?). Still doing higher reps (10-12) for now to gain size while I can do it easily and to get my muscles used to working out again/using good form so I don't hurt myself. Will probably cut reps down to 5-8 after that.

What the hell timedog, how old are you?

I have 28 fantastic years behind me.

If I were you'd I'd err to the light side.

1. Overconfidence. You might hurt yourself lifting weights that are heavier than you remembered.

2. DOMS. It'll be bad.

3. New exercises, like squats can be dangerous if improperly performed. Light = form practice.

I did 135 x 13 reps (for the first set at least). Watched a video beforehand to get the form down. It didn't hurt my back this time (which is the reason why I started doing leg press instead of squats way back in the day).

 

[abuC]

Close call doing dumbell flys today, first time back in the gym since getting over my cold and while doing flys I started coughing. My chest went flat, my right arm went out straight and I could feel my shoulder about to say "Peace out homie!" so I dropped the weights like they were on fire. So far that's the closest I've come to sustaining an injury in the gym, all because I coughed.

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

I haven't been to the gym in like 3 weeks GAF. I have 0 motivation ;_____;