• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

Status
Not open for further replies.
T

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
Alienshogun said:
That makes more sense. His body type in the first pic does not seem like it would be able to make that kind of jump, even in 2 years. Shit, he looks like a different person.



He doesn't need to be "clear."

He's 100% correct, your posts have been nothing but random questions about unimportant body parts for strength/definition, or abrasive twat like questions/statements. The people who have tried to help you have offered information that you simply attempt to refute or completely ignore.

This isn't a debate thread it's an advice and discussion thread. Go be "right" somewhere fucking else.

At this point I'd be surprised if anyone responded to you anymore. I know this is the last time I'll post to you in here, or even respond to anything close to what you're asking.
Click to expand...

There's really no point in making a "I'm not going to respond to you anymore!" post, just quit responding.

If someone wants to give me attitude for no reason, I'll give them attitude back. I've had like 2 dickheaded replies in this thread, but only in response to people not actually wanting to have a discussion, yet still replying to my posts (i.e. they were being dickheads). And I'm not ignoring information in this thread. I'm doing compound exercises, no longer going to exhaustion because of information in this thread.

My forearms and calves aren't fully worked by those excercises, so I'll add a couple extra isolation sets at the end of my workout. That's not a big deal. AT ALL. The OP says he adds extra stuff for arms. It's not abnormal to do this sort of thing. It's not weird. It's not wrong. If it is, then you're gonna have to show me how/why. That is what discussion is all about.
 
O

OrangeGrayBlue

Member
Hello fitness-gaf. I used to be pretty cut, but have not worked out regularly for about a year. I'm still roughly the same size as before, but have lost a lot of definition. I'm 5'9" and about 135 pounds. I'd like to put on about ten pounds of muscle before May or so and am particularly interested in broadening my chest and shoulder area for more of a V shape. What advice does gaf have for me?
 
R

rando14

Member
Timedog said:
There's really no point in making a "I'm not going to respond to you anymore!" post, just quite responding.

If someone wants to give me attitude for no reason, I'll give them attitude back. I've had like 2 dickheaded replies in this thread, but only in response to people not actually wanting to have a discussion, yet still replying to my posts (i.e. they were being dickheads). And I'm not ignoring information in this thread. I'm doing compound exercises, no longer going to exhaustion because of information in this thread.

My forearms and calves aren't fully worked by those excercises, so I'll add a couple extra isolation sets at the end of my workout. That's not a big deal. AT ALL. The OP says he adds extra stuff for arms. It's not abnormal to do this sort of thing. It's not weird. It's not wrong. If it is, then you're gonna have to show me how/why. That is what discussion is all about.
Click to expand...

Fair enough.


OrangeGrayBlue said:
Hello fitness-gaf. I used to be pretty cut, but have not worked out regularly for about a year. I'm still roughly the same size as before, but have lost a lot of definition. I'm 5'9" and about 135 pounds. I'd like to put on about ten pounds of muscle before May or so and am particularly interested in broadening my chest and shoulder area for more of a V shape. What advice does gaf have for me?
Click to expand...

Ten lbs of muscle in a year would be awesome. In 3 months, I'm not so sure.

If you're planning on adding as much muscle as possible (of course, with the addition of fat also), increase how many calories you consume and start getting more protein. With the appropriate exercises also, of course.
 
P

Petrie

Banned
Timedog said:
There's really no point in making a "I'm not going to respond to you anymore!" post, just quit responding.

If someone wants to give me attitude for no reason, I'll give them attitude back. I've had like 2 dickheaded replies in this thread, but only in response to people not actually wanting to have a discussion, yet still replying to my posts (i.e. they were being dickheads). And I'm not ignoring information in this thread. I'm doing compound exercises, no longer going to exhaustion because of information in this thread.

My forearms and calves aren't fully worked by those excercises, so I'll add a couple extra isolation sets at the end of my workout. That's not a big deal. AT ALL. The OP says he adds extra stuff for arms. It's not abnormal to do this sort of thing. It's not weird. It's not wrong. If it is, then you're gonna have to show me how/why. That is what discussion is all about.
Click to expand...

Zero dickhead replies here in this thread. If you want to add that stuff, be my guest, but don't expect the thread to say "yeah you should totally focus on isolating your calves and forearms! Get on it brah!", because you shouldn't. Put that effort towards your whole body instead. If those areas are already so strong, you should try and balance things, not continue to make things even more imbalanced.
 
T

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
Petrie said:
Zero dickhead replies here in this thread. If you want to add that stuff, be my guest, but don't expect the thread to say "yeah you should totally focus on isolating your calves and forearms! Get on it brah!", because you shouldn't. Put that effort towards your whole body instead. If those areas are already so strong, you should try and balance things, not continue to make things even more imbalanced.
Click to expand...

Putting extra effort towards my whole body would assume that I'm not getting enough sets in on other stuff and extra effort is needed. And I wouldn't be doing those extra sets for strength, really.
 
R

rage1973

Member
OrangeGrayBlue said:
Hello fitness-gaf. I used to be pretty cut, but have not worked out regularly for about a year. I'm still roughly the same size as before, but have lost a lot of definition. I'm 5'9" and about 135 pounds. I'd like to put on about ten pounds of muscle before May or so and am particularly interested in broadening my chest and shoulder area for more of a V shape. What advice does gaf have for me?
Click to expand...

Start one of the beginner routine in the OP and work on your diet to make sure you are getting enough protein.
 
B

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
rando14 said:
Ah, I thought this might be a potential effect. Has anyone asked a doctor about how to combat that? I've always felt that multivitamins were unnecessary, but it might be possible that vitamin deficiencies could be the cause.

There's a line I draw regarding fat loss. Shredded is cool, but health is all of our priorities.
Click to expand...

I imagine most doctors would recommend against IF in the first place since it seems a bit unorthodox, but I'm just guessing. I do imagine there's a transition period in which your body becomes stressed from lack of food (adjustment) and that may correspond to a drop in your immune system till shit balances back out.
 
S

Samyy

Member
So guys what can I do for my thighs? It's just I've lost 30 pounds but my thighs look the same, makes me look really odd....
 
M

Mecha_Infantry

Banned
EviLore said:
Huh, I can do close grip dead hang pullups now, despite not having worked out in a month due to a rib injury (dislocation?) in BJJ. Losing body fat does wonders for your power:weight ratio ;b
Click to expand...

I don't think it does most of the time..I'm 18 stones/250 pounds, and during my bulk, my pullup strength got stronger.

It's weird...But the key is working on strength rather than losing the weight
 
M

Mecha_Infantry

Banned
MrOogieBoogie said:
What's the nicest fitness-related comment someone's made about you or asked you?

"Hey, are you a stuntman or something?" today at the park.

Feels good, man.
Click to expand...

Well the one I remember was when I went into work wearing a tight-ish t shirt, and I walked past the hot-as-hell receptionist and went to my desk. A few mins later the Director's PA had a problem with her machine so I walked up to the 2nd floor and went on her PC where I saw a message from the receptionist saying "OMG have you seen _______'s body today? Love it"...never got to smash though

Just this week 3 guys said they want me to train them before I start dieting for my competition. So They must look at me and see me doing something right!

Other than that, when people say you're the biggest guy in the gym it's pretty cool. Sometimes I get body dismorphia and think I'm smaller than I am..so it's reassuring. A big bodybuilder actually told me to compete this year as I'm bigger than most, so that's my goal in November, to be shredded enough to compete

Ashhong said:
looking to get either jack3d or craze, what do you guys recommend?
Click to expand...

Neither.

Seriously don't waste your cash. Spend it on some BCAA, other AA, kre alkalyn or normal creatine..or spend the money on more meat. If you want to feel the "pump" before the gym then drink some caffine, or keep yourself hydrated throughout the day
 
A

Ashhong

Member
CaptYamato said:
Jack3d
Click to expand...

Any particular reason why? I was reading a lot of people who have been on jack3d for a while preferring Craze.

And I am really just looking for the energy when working out. Caffeine has little effect on me, but maybe I'll try some caffeine pills and see that how that works out first.
 
M

Mecha_Infantry

Banned
Ashhong said:
Any particular reason why? I was reading a lot of people who have been on jack3d for a while preferring Craze.

And I am really just looking for the energy when working out. Caffeine has little effect on me, but maybe I'll try some caffeine pills and see that how that works out first.
Click to expand...

Ok.

I dunno dude by I used jack for about 3 weeks before throwing it out as it didn't hit me or do much that it said. My work day starts at 6am and step off the work from train into the gym at 7.30pm. So energy wise I need something to hit me, the only thing I can suggest is getting your basic shit right first especially the food which has slow release energy and lots of vitamins

Good luck either way.
 
EviLore

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
X-Frame said:
EviLore, how long have you been doing BJJ?

I've always wanted to learn martial arts, and have been trying to decide which form to focus on for a while now. I guess I just need to pick one and go with it and stop hesitating. I've heard of people learning in their 30's, 40's, etc so I don't have much excuse at 25.
Click to expand...

2005-2006, and 2010-present. Lots of on and off, and I was effectively totally reset to day 1 from that four year layoff, so I'm only a blue belt.

It's very doable at any age, but also brutally difficult at times. You're fighting people 100% power, just without any striking, until one of you is forced to give up. And because there's no striking, you have the thrills of combat without the concussions and brain-mushing, and can spar way longer and way more frequently than you can in boxing or muay thai. However the down side is that you're sparring 100% for several hours a week potentially (you can always do less and focus more on technique training), so injuries do happen as a result.

Less injuries the stronger and fitter you are, and the less of an ego you let yourself have (tap early instead of late on the mats unless it's a tournament).

I recommend it for sure. Your confidence levels will generally get a boost when you know that anyone who comes to class for the first time is a ragdoll when they fight you (and keep in mind your first few weeks that you won't be able to do anything to anyone except other brand new people), and how that translates to 99% of the human population ;b.
 
X

X-Frame

Member
EviLore said:
2005-2006, and 2010-present. Lots of on and off, and I was effectively totally reset to day 1 from that four year layoff, so I'm only a blue belt.

It's very doable at any age, but also brutally difficult at times. You're fighting people 100% power, just without any striking, until one of you is forced to give up. And because there's no striking, you have the thrills of combat without the concussions and brain-mushing, and can spar way longer and way more frequently than you can in boxing or muay thai. However the down side is that you're sparring 100% for several hours a week potentially (you can always do less and focus more on technique training), so injuries do happen as a result.

Less injuries the stronger and fitter you are, and the less of an ego you let yourself have (tap early instead of late on the mats unless it's a tournament).

I recommend it for sure. Your confidence levels will generally get a boost when you know that anyone who comes to class for the first time is a ragdoll when they fight you (and keep in mind your first few weeks that you won't be able to do anything to anyone except other brand new people), and how that translates to 99% of the human population ;b.
Click to expand...

Ahh, that's awesome. An issue of mine is that I've had shoulder surgery twice on my right shoulder, and are incredibly vulnerable in the "high five" pose where it could sublux or dislocate if the force applied from the front is strong enough. I'd bet you could pop it right out of the socket with ease, EviLore. Lol.

With BJJ containing a lot of grappling I assume that wouldn't be the smartest choice for me.

I see martial arts as more of a means to an end. To get in better shape, the confidence of knowing you can defend yourself more easily (like you said), and the excitement of competition. Only I need something that doesn't risk a 3rd surgery ..
 
EviLore

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Oh, yeah, with a shoulder injury like that I'd be concerned about any martial arts really. We need stem cell shoulders ASAP ;b
 
P

parrotbeak

Member
What about back injuries? Anyone doing bjj with L5-S1 disc ruptures? That's the main thing that has stopped me. A few of my friends are training though, so I'm having one teach me positioning and fundamentals.
 
B

blackflag

Member
Mecha_Infantry said:
Well the one I remember was when I went into work wearing a tight-ish t shirt, and I walked past the hot-as-hell receptionist and went to my desk. A few mins later the Director's PA had a problem with her machine so I walked up to the 2nd floor and went on her PC where I saw a message from the receptionist saying "OMG have you seen _______'s body today? Love it"...never got to smash though

Just this week 3 guys said they want me to train them before I start dieting for my competition. So They must look at me and see me doing something right!

Other than that, when people say you're the biggest guy in the gym it's pretty cool. Sometimes I get body dismorphia and think I'm smaller than I am..so it's reassuring. A big bodybuilder actually told me to compete this year as I'm bigger than most, so that's my goal in November, to be shredded enough to compete



Neither.

Seriously don't waste your cash. Spend it on some BCAA, other AA, kre alkalyn or normal creatine..or spend the money on more meat. If you want to feel the "pump" before the gym then drink some caffine, or keep yourself hydrated throughout the day
Click to expand...

I'd also say don't spend your money on kre-alkalyn. That stuff is pure bullshit. Just go with anyone that uses creapure mono
 
M

MjFrancis

Member
I've been warned since I was a wee lad that my retinas are so thin that I could suffer from spontaneous retinal tearing at any time. I was always cautioned against any contact sport and erring on the side of not increasing the risk of a detatched or torn retina I've settled on resistance training as my most physically demanding activity.

Sure beats track and field.
 
B

BlueScrote

Member
Ugh, I messed up my neck yesterday doing squats. I was squatting in a different rack than I usually do and it didn't have adjustable height safety bars. I go down too far and the barbell hits the safety bar and shifts the bar location just enough to be unbalanced and higher than it should be.
 
C

Clott

Member
rando14 said:
Certain isolation exercises that people do blow my mind. Extremely heavy shrugs, forearm curls, etc. I guess heavy training for these will give the illusion of strength, but proportion is so important in "looking big" that it's just silly.

--

Curious, but have do any IFers here feel like they are more suscept to getting sick?
Click to expand...

Strange, I haven't gotten sick since I started the regimen, if anything I feel healthier and my skin has gotten clearer. I usually get at least one cold sore every winter and this time I haven't received a single one.
 
B

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
BlueScrote said:
Ugh, I messed up my neck yesterday doing squats. I was squatting in a different rack than I usually do and it didn't have adjustable height safety bars. I go down too far and the barbell hits the safety bar and shifts the bar location just enough to be unbalanced and higher than it should be.
Click to expand...

Did you not warm up? That should have warned you (at light weight) that the bars were too high.

Sucks man, sorry to hear it.
 
R

Ripclawe

Banned
kylej said:
and last one I'll post. This one's especially for Shogun, since Carbon-12 is on his 21st cycle of 5/3/1

J528D.jpg

BzK9z.jpg
Click to expand...

I take it a lot of protein drinks and other supplements were in order because that ain't eating tuna and whole grains..
 
B

BlueScrote

Member
Alienshogun said:
Did you not warm up? That should have warned you (at light weight) that the bars were too high.

Sucks man, sorry to hear it.
Click to expand...

I did warm up, and I noticed the bar was getting pretty close, but didn't think much of it. Apparently I go deeper when I squat my working sets. My neck is mostly really stiff today, so hopefully it'll heal up in a couple of days.

Ripclawe said:
I take it a lot of protein drinks and other supplements were in order because that ain't eating tuna and whole grains..
Click to expand...

I think my favorite detail of that transformation is the loss of glasses and addition of facial hair.
 
E

Enco

Member
Pretty cool day.

A tiny burger from BK, an amazing Reese's peanut butter cups frozen yogurt milkshake, a nice swimming session and a nice salmon salad.

Good stuff.
 
B

balddemon

Banned
That red head still has a fat face...
Great work though

In my life, I can't figure out how to stop playing videogames and go work out. Maybe I should sell my computer
 
B

balddemon

Banned
^^ Yeah I have none apparently. I'll go find some -_____________- god knows I need to
Petrie said:
http://www.fitocracy.com/play/

It's like a videogame!
Click to expand...

yeah...already a member :p I used it for a while but never remembered to put my workouts in even though I'm on the computer like 24/7.

BUT I am pretty much guaranteed a job at Vitamin Shoppe or Prairie Life Center (gym in the Midwest) soon, so that's good. Cheap supplements + money to sign up for a gym again OR free membership + ability to buy supplements again! I'm excited haha bout to get big again
 
D

deadbeef

Member
Alienshogun said:
Willpower.
Click to expand...

This is pretty much it. You just tell your mind, "Okay self, you have to work out 3 days a week. It is not a choice, you must do it." Then on the scheduled days you make it a priority to complete your workouts. Some days you will be tired - too bad, the rule is: you must go to the gym, so you go. Some workouts will be crap. Doesn't matter, just do it.

Eventually it will become an ingrained behavior. Then you will see that one of the many benefits of working out is that it gives you an amazing sense of self control. You'll be proud that you can control your behavior and work towards a long-term goal. You will be self-confident and this will translate to other parts of your life. You'll know that you can be successful in any task if you put your mind to it.
 
E

Enco

Member
deadbeef said:
This is pretty much it. You just tell your mind, "Okay self, you have to work out 3 days a week. It is not a choice, you must do it." Then on the scheduled days you make it a priority to complete your workouts. Some days you will be tired - too bad, the rule is: you must go to the gym, so you go. Some workouts will be crap. Doesn't matter, just do it.

Eventually it will become an ingrained behavior. Then you will see that one of the many benefits of working out is that it gives you an amazing sense of self control. You'll be proud that you can control your behavior and work towards a long-term goal. You will be self-confident and this will translate to other parts of your life. You'll know that you can be successful in any task if you put your mind to it.
Click to expand...
This.

No other thing will ever help you get to the gym. No one can force you to do it. You have to want to.
 
H

HarryHengst

Member
Saadster said:
Wait I just read the last few pages of the thread. You're not suppose to squat to failure on SS?!
Click to expand...
No. Thats why you do 3x5, at a weight you can do all reps with proper form. Although i sometimes fail the last rep of the third set when i just upped the weight, so i guess that can count as doing it to failure. Usually the next workout i can do the weight just fine.
 
T

Trey

Member
If you're on SS, you're most likely a beginner, so reps to failure is not only unnecessary, it's actually detrimental to your form, workout consistency, and growth as a lifter. I know I've had 1 or 2 reps left in the tank on my PR lifts, but my form would go to shit. I'm still putting on weight at a 10lb per workout rate on my squat.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

I got abs tattooed on my stomach to be ‘summer ready’
36
3K
diffusionx replied
Diabetes-gaf - Warnings and Encouragement
2
67
5K
ChazAshley replied
Satya Nadella: Annual letter to stockholders. Content on new platforms will continue
4 5 6 7 8
352
21K
noob smokes replied
The exercise pill: How exercise keeps your brain healthy and protects it against depression and anxiety
Science 2
56
5K
Maiden Voyage replied
Stop being lazy and go exercise
Opinion Drama 2 3
144
8K
sonomamashine replied
Top Bottom