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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Holy shit, sorry I asked, lol.
That's pretty cool though.
That's pretty cool though.
I need to be in the best shape of my life by June. Goddammit.
I need to change up my workout a bit. I think I'm doing wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many isolation using the machines while I'm not pushing enough on weighlifting (I always do 3x5 squats, presses, bent row, and 1x5 deadlifts). Wanna incorporate a lot of those iso machine workouts to using the dumbells and barbells if I can.
Plus doing all that iso stuff has me at the gym for like 2 hours.
And another thing to focus on is really getting my running in line. I can breeze through a 12 minute mile, but that pace is a joke. I'm gonna cut my run to 10 minutes but up the speed.
And by god, its time for me to start cooking. I'm getting tired of turkey and cheese on whole wheat.
I need to change up my workout a bit. I think I'm doing wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many isolation using the machines while I'm not pushing enough on weighlifting (I always do 3x5 squats, presses, bent row, and 1x5 deadlifts). Wanna incorporate a lot of those iso machine workouts to using the dumbells and barbells if I can.
Plus doing all that iso stuff has me at the gym for like 2 hours.
And another thing to focus on is really getting my running in line. I can breeze through a 12 minute mile, but that pace is a joke. I'm gonna cut my run to 10 minutes but up the speed.
And by god, its time for me to start cooking. I'm getting tired of turkey and cheese on whole wheat.
Bought this dip belt today:
Was going to go with the one MJfrancis posted a while back but I didn't feel like waiting on shipping. I gave it a test drive earlier with 20lbs and I must say it's a lot easier than I thought it would be, gonna bump it up to 45lbs and then go from there.
Was going to go with the one MJfrancis posted a while back but I didn't feel like waiting on shipping. I gave it a test drive earlier with 20lbs and I must say it's a lot easier than I thought it would be, gonna bump it up to 45lbs and then go from there.
Echoes of Pink
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It's no problem. Deloading and lowering the sets are important to the program. If you don't do it, eventually you'll hit a brick wall. If you didn't know about them, I encourage you to sign up for the 5X5 report on the SL website and/or read the program section in the pdf. It's important.
I'd say working out 2 days in a row is generally a bad idea on SL. You'll be working out a lot of the same muscles when you should be resting them. You should probably just enjoy the extra rest day then get back to it normally on Friday.
cuevas. PhD.
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Yeah a lot of people don't read the SL 5x5 report. You don't even have to read the whole thing, he explains the whole program and what to do during and after the program in less than 15 pages.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
AlienShogun has graduated from Rurouni Kenshin to four plates on either side of a barbell. Nice!
It's funny, since I identify everyone by their avatar rather than their username, at first I saw a 5/3/1 press schedule on the last page and thought, "who's this newcomer barging in here with those kind of numbers?" It was only a half second that I didn't recognize you, but it's just so much easier to recognize another poster through a picture rather than a username.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, I figured it was time for a change.
My legs are still destroyed from squats on Monday, like can't get off the toilet sore and I've got 10 hours of university today with a 30 minute presentation at the end.
Fuck me.
cooter: thanks for the info. do you fit in any cardio at all?
I always start the day with running, then weight training, then a five minute run (at a much higher speed than the first) to finish everything off.
Had a great day today. Pushed my weights up a bit, then did more exercises with free weights/on the rack. Even pushed through hell to get through a faster run. Feels good.
Ah.. thanks. Out of curiousity, did you have lasik or prk? The doctor said its a surgery time decision for me, so I still don't know which procedure I'm having..
I love answering this question... both. I had PRK done on my left eye and LASIK on my right eye.
Which brings me to the question of why it's a "surgery time" decision in your case. Off the cuff such a statement sounds totally fucked to me. My eye surgeon was able to tell me what thought he could or couldn't do in the initial exam. If he knows how thick your cornea is he knows how much room there is to work with. At least it seems that way to a layperson such as myself!
Which brings me to the question of why it's a "surgery time" decision in your case. Off the cuff such a statement sounds totally fucked to me. My eye surgeon was able to tell me what thought he could or couldn't do in the initial exam. If he knows how thick your cornea is he knows how much room there is to work with. At least it seems that way to a layperson such as myself!
Yup, it was only $27, and I probably will get the ironmind belt at a later time especially to try with squatting as well. I've been listening to this almost everyday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijTwZNUBhcI&feature
And it's forced me to kick my workouts up to another level, so I needed the dip belt. I love doing them now, I tried them today with a 45lb plate and it was fantastic.
My interest has been piqued by the possibility of increasing testosterone levels through beef consumption. Mostly because A) I consume a decent amount of beef already and have access to vast quantities of it and B) because anabolic steroids aren't an option I need my body to produce all the testosterone it possibly can on it's own. I'm not an old timer but I'm not a spring chicken like many on GAF are either; testosterone is already through the roof for the 15-18 year olds who have begun working out. Point being, while not entirely necessary for my goals, I've become more interested in building T-levels (seeing their direct link to anabolism and muscle-building) that have no where to go but DOWN for me at this point in life.
First thing I looked at was that uncooked beef has creatine. I've read a few different sources on how much it has per pound or how much gets destroyed when you cook it. The benefits of creatine don't need to be espoused again, we already know it's anabolic properties and that's why many of us supplement with 5g+ a day or what have you.
Next up is the saturated fat. More specifically, stearic acid. I've glossed through studies that showed stearic acid fattening up rat testes in the 30's and it just so happens that many cuts of beef are quite fatty and filled with this compound. Sure, it's been associated with lower LDL cholesterol levels, but preliminary browsing of research shows it could contribute to increased testosterone.
Conjugated linoleic acid content is another benefit of beef. Research has broadly shown that consumption of this as a lone supplement is associated with gains in lean mass. This small net gain might be due more to CLA's reduction of bodyfat, but the result is still of interest.
Beef is also rich in arachidonic acid. Studies show it's a regulator of localized muscle inflammation and helps rebuild muscles after they've been broken down from activities such as resistance training. Bigger muscles in less time? I take particular joy in this point since it smashes the false dichotomy of "good" and "bad" that shows up in fitness circles that creates garbage results from garbage assumptions: some inflammation can be "good!"
Not to be forgotten is the benefit of additional cholesterol from eating beef. While there is a limit to how much cholesterol will drag testosterone into your muscles in the first place, there's no doubt that too little could reduce the potential ceiling of this process. This is the icing on the proverbial cake.
Aside from cholesterol (maybe?), most of these substances have found their way into supplements already, one way or another. And that's a damn shame since there's a single whole food that can supply all of them. I'm of the school of thought that muscle-building nutrition requires a holistic approach (I'm stealing this term from the pro-homeopathic vegan hippies) and piecemeal supplementation could very well be missing entire chunks of the process that we don't entirely understand.
That's why I like to look at the nutritional habits of strongmen and bodybuilders of the pre-steroid era. Anabolic steroids changed everything. The idea of musclemen getting strong on a family's worth of chicken breasts every day was unheard of before, but since you're already kick-starting the anabolic process with Dbol and Anavar any protein source may due at that point. Without that advantage "natural" muscle-building requires more judicious dietary intake. And that's why I've been looking into the almighty grass-fed cow for some insight into this.
If you got this far, congrats on your patience. I don't cite the studies I've found and it may even delve into broscience at times but I thought this train of thought could provide some helpful insight for some members of this thread.
First thing I looked at was that uncooked beef has creatine. I've read a few different sources on how much it has per pound or how much gets destroyed when you cook it. The benefits of creatine don't need to be espoused again, we already know it's anabolic properties and that's why many of us supplement with 5g+ a day or what have you.
Next up is the saturated fat. More specifically, stearic acid. I've glossed through studies that showed stearic acid fattening up rat testes in the 30's and it just so happens that many cuts of beef are quite fatty and filled with this compound. Sure, it's been associated with lower LDL cholesterol levels, but preliminary browsing of research shows it could contribute to increased testosterone.
Conjugated linoleic acid content is another benefit of beef. Research has broadly shown that consumption of this as a lone supplement is associated with gains in lean mass. This small net gain might be due more to CLA's reduction of bodyfat, but the result is still of interest.
Beef is also rich in arachidonic acid. Studies show it's a regulator of localized muscle inflammation and helps rebuild muscles after they've been broken down from activities such as resistance training. Bigger muscles in less time? I take particular joy in this point since it smashes the false dichotomy of "good" and "bad" that shows up in fitness circles that creates garbage results from garbage assumptions: some inflammation can be "good!"
Not to be forgotten is the benefit of additional cholesterol from eating beef. While there is a limit to how much cholesterol will drag testosterone into your muscles in the first place, there's no doubt that too little could reduce the potential ceiling of this process. This is the icing on the proverbial cake.
Aside from cholesterol (maybe?), most of these substances have found their way into supplements already, one way or another. And that's a damn shame since there's a single whole food that can supply all of them. I'm of the school of thought that muscle-building nutrition requires a holistic approach (I'm stealing this term from the pro-homeopathic vegan hippies) and piecemeal supplementation could very well be missing entire chunks of the process that we don't entirely understand.
That's why I like to look at the nutritional habits of strongmen and bodybuilders of the pre-steroid era. Anabolic steroids changed everything. The idea of musclemen getting strong on a family's worth of chicken breasts every day was unheard of before, but since you're already kick-starting the anabolic process with Dbol and Anavar any protein source may due at that point. Without that advantage "natural" muscle-building requires more judicious dietary intake. And that's why I've been looking into the almighty grass-fed cow for some insight into this.
If you got this far, congrats on your patience. I don't cite the studies I've found and it may even delve into broscience at times but I thought this train of thought could provide some helpful insight for some members of this thread.
Ah.. good question. I've been a gas permeable contact lense wearer for the past 15 years. Hard lenses contract the shape of the cornea, which is why the surgeon typically recommends 3 weeks out of hard lenses prior to surgery. It's been 2 weeks since my last examination (5 weeks out total), so depending on my cornea thickness tommorrow, they're going to decide whether PRK or Lasik would be a safer option. Ultimately I'm willing to suffer through a little short term pain (PRK), if that will ensure better long term eye health.
We'll see tommorrow!
parrotbeak
Member
Didn't you have a thin cornea or something? I wanted LASIK and passed the initial screening as a good candidate but when they took additional scans they found a thin spot in my cornia and said it was too risky. I was really bummed.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
That's pretty interesting MJ. Pretty cool to see some positive ideas on beef given all the phobias of red meat.
Troblin: for what it's worth they were able to zero in my PRK eye quite well, and I was more satisfied with those results for a time. I posted in an old thread about eye surgery a while back for the full story, but long story short I'm still in glasses. But my eyesight was bad enough before that without them I was helpless.
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And Alienshogun, glad you read my beefy rant. The whole beef + anabolism thing has me considering it to be one of the better "bulking" foods available along with eggs and dairy. Chicken and tuna, while great meaty protein sources, may be better for cutting given the lack of perceived anabolism.
Yup. Both were pretty thin, and while my right eye was precipice of being an acceptable candidate, my left eye was PRK or bust.
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And Alienshogun, glad you read my beefy rant. The whole beef + anabolism thing has me considering it to be one of the better "bulking" foods available along with eggs and dairy. Chicken and tuna, while great meaty protein sources, may be better for cutting given the lack of perceived anabolism.
J Tourettes
Banned
Any views on lamb?
parrotbeak
Member
Ya, they told me to go research PRK and let them know if I wanted to consider that. I think it was out of my price range. Maybe I should cancel my vacation and consider just saving up for it.
If PRK is an option I would say go for it. Tales of it's horribleness have been greatly exaggerated. If I recall my PRK eye took less time to focus in after the surgery than my LASIK eye. It requires a great deal more care not to get infected, though, given the surface area of the wound. For all I know that was why I had problems. I was left in the dark about that for the most part, but then again so was my eye surgeon. Shit happens, more or less.
Another thing that's a bummer is that, even now when I can wear contact lenses, the shape of my eyes have been so drastically changed that the best I can get corrected with contacts is something like 20/40-ish. Consequently, I only wear contacts when my vanity gets the best of me (which also happens to coincide with sunny weather, so maybe I'm not that vain after all, lol).
Another thing that's a bummer is that, even now when I can wear contact lenses, the shape of my eyes have been so drastically changed that the best I can get corrected with contacts is something like 20/40-ish. Consequently, I only wear contacts when my vanity gets the best of me (which also happens to coincide with sunny weather, so maybe I'm not that vain after all, lol).
Thanks, I'll look into his posts on there. I'm soaking up this sort of information like a sponge right now.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Does anyone have any recommendations for how I can stay motivated to go work out on a regular basis?
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Look in the mirror.
HarryHengst
Member
You cant be who you want to be if you are the person you are.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
You either have a weird sense of humor, or a weird sense of inspiration.
This is more like it.
What is your access to vast amounts of beef?
This Saturday I am taking a trip to a well rated farmer's market about 20 minutes away where they have grass-fed beef and free range eggs and hopefully the prices are in the middle of conventional sources in super markets and organic sources (usually way expensive).
If it's a happy medium I hope to buy a lot. Very excited.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Are you one who asks for a lift off, or one who expects a hand out -Dave Tate.
Quit being a little bitch and lift. - AlienShogun.
Also, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6-1XczIIE
Find a gym-buddy.
Workout related youtube videos also work for me (the Hodge Twins type, entertaining stuff), this thread, reading up on random blogs I stumble upon, where people describe their struggles and achievements.
I'm still a gym rookie though.
My knuckles have become all dry and itchy after I started going to the gym. I'm rather curious how usual/unusual this is...
J Tourettes
Banned
That's a great quote.
Lamel
Banned
No he is right. The more you work out, the more you see your body change and the more you want to work out. Just take the leap.
I've had classes all day at college and have an exam tomorrow and I am still finding the time to go to the gym. If I can do it, so can you.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
I wouldn't find a gym buddy. It's annoying, and you can end up talking than working out.
Just find a good playlist that can motivate you.
Just find a good playlist that can motivate you.
Nope. Just Racketball twice a week.
In-laws have pasture on their property. They used to have chickens, too, but since that's been squashed I've been itching to set some up in my backyard.
Farmer's markets are hit-and-miss on both prices and quality - if it's well-rated I'm sure you'll find something at the very least. I buy grass-fed rather than grain-fed where possible, but I don't lose sleep about it if I can't afford it or if it's not available.
Quit being a bitch? Boom. Motivation.
catotheyounger
Member
If you are going by yourself, its just discipline. Make a goal for yourself, and try to work your way up to it. You may not get immediate results, per se, so make small goals and work toward that. You need to create small feedback loops where you feel you accomplished something.
entremet
Member
Play a sport.
The motivation and discipline have to be intrinsic. External forces are poor motivators in my experience. It's like quitting smoking because you want to or quitting smoking because everyone is telling you to. It's clear who is going to be the nonsmoker in that situation, and it's the same with working out.
Set a goal for yourself and work towards that goal. That may give your workouts reason and consequently, motivation for sticking to it.
I hope there is something I can buy. Beef, chicken, eggs, veggies, etc.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
My motivation is to look better, that's weird?
man... probably late to the party on this but I said gottdamn
http://www.strstd.com/
I've been calculating out 5-3-1 weights by hand for my entire first cycle. so much easier o_o
http://www.strstd.com/
I've been calculating out 5-3-1 weights by hand for my entire first cycle. so much easier o_o
For me it's a commitment towards a goal, a destination. Actually the final destination is pretty nebulous, but it includes stuff like being able to do unassisted pullups.
But, I generally never have problems following through with things.
Just know that when you commit to something you become what so many people wish they were.
childplease
Banned
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Girl who sits next to me in my Rape and Murder class asked me to be her personal trainer, I laughed and told her no.
Flattering anyway.
Those numbers are a bit off (that's one of the sites I checked). I use the template in the book for anything over 60% and maths for anything under 60%.
Flattering anyway.
Those numbers are a bit off (that's one of the sites I checked). I use the template in the book for anything over 60% and maths for anything under 60%.
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