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[Ashhong]

I just stumbled into this topic... but I think he's saying he doesn't get crazy dreams from 2 scoops.

Ah maybe. I started at 1 1/2 scoops, but found myself jittery after my workout. Some would say "well, work out some more then!" but I would be too tired. It was a weird feeling. My brain was saying focus, you can do more! but I was just so exhausted.

Trimmed it down to just under 1 scoop and it feels about right. However I noticed that I don't feel any regular effects sometimes. Usually on the harder days like my squat/OHP/dead days.

 

[balddemon]

What are you doing going up 10lbs on squat and 2.5lbs on press??

well i went up 20lbs from monday, and completed all the reps with good form. and press i stalled at 120 last time, and i won't be doing it until monday. is there a problem here, sir?

 

[parrotbeak]

I want to try Craze just to see if I get hyena dreams. Sounds fucking nuts.

 

[balddemon]

http://www.sportsauthority.com/prod...-1B5B-E011-BB8E-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
what do you guys think of this belt? guy at the gym offered to sell it to me for 10 bucks. i used it today and it helped a lot, but i'm kind of nervous about how it tapers in the front.

 

[Ashhong]

well i went up 20lbs from monday, and completed all the reps with good form. and press i stalled at 120 last time, and i won't be doing it until monday. is there a problem here, sir?

How do you go up 2.5 pounds on a barbell? Does your gym have 1.25lb weights?

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

http://www.sportsauthority.com/prod...-1B5B-E011-BB8E-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
what do you guys think of this belt? guy at the gym offered to sell it to me for 10 bucks. i used it today and it helped a lot, but i'm kind of nervous about how it tapers in the front.

I wouldnt buy it. Buy a good belt and it will last you a life time. Inzer or elitefts have great belts.

 

[Cudder]

How do you go up 2.5 pounds on a barbell? Does your gym have 1.25lb weights?

My gym has 2.5lb plates, so yeah I guess so.

 

[Ashhong]

My gym has 2.5lb plates, so yeah I guess so.

Mine has 2.5lb also, but he was saying he is going to increase press by 2.5lbs total. So then will the bar be lopsided? I guess since it's so little weight that it's no big deal?

 

[balddemon]

How do you go up 2.5 pounds on a barbell? Does your gym have 1.25lb weights?

LOL i meant 120, 2.5lb on each side, my bad. i guess i had 2.5lbs on my mind or something similarly silly

I wouldnt buy it. Buy a good belt and it will last you a life time. Inzer or elitefts have great belts.

wow those inzer belts are expensive lol.

could i use this one for squatting?

 

[Cudder]

Mine has 2.5lb also, but he was saying he is going to increase press by 2.5lbs total. So then will the bar be lopsided? I guess since it's so little weight that it's no big deal?

ohh, i get you. didn't catch that.

 

[blackflag]

Ah maybe. I started at 1 1/2 scoops, but found myself jittery after my workout. Some would say "well, work out some more then!" but I would be too tired. It was a weird feeling. My brain was saying focus, you can do more! but I was just so exhausted.

Trimmed it down to just under 1 scoop and it feels about right. However I noticed that I don't feel any regular effects sometimes. Usually on the harder days like my squat/OHP/dead days.

Never got jittery on it like I do with jack3d. Must be the DMAA in jack3d. The other thing that happens is that I never want to stop working out but of course I force myself to when the workout is over. I'm on my 2nd tub of it and I still get the effects.

 

[Kwhit10]

Squatted 300 3x5 for the first time. Though the constant increasing is definitely getting harder. Hope I don't stall soon.

 

[kylej]

I don't think I've seen Konstantinov train without a shirt on before this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUEVZrYeWco&t=3m0s

Dude's father must have been a grizzly bear.

 

[Mr.City]

Squatted 300 3x5 for the first time. Though the constant increasing is definitely getting harder. Hope I don't stall soon.

Soon you will be squatting the fabled 3 plates for sets across. Nice work.

 

[Kwhit10]

Soon you will be squatting the fabled 3 plates for sets across. Nice work.

Yea getting the next plate is a bigger psychological bump than the number lifted.

 

[Bearded Dudebro]

No, I mean I get no effects whatsoever. No additional focus or awareness at the gym, no help completing additional reps, no pump, nothing. And I haven't even taken any stims for over 3 years, I shouldn't be resistant.

I just stumbled into this topic... but I think he's saying he doesn't get crazy dreams from 2 scoops.

 

[JB1981]

LOL i meant 120, 2.5lb on each side, my bad. i guess i had 2.5lbs on my mind or something similarly silly

wow those inzer belts are expensive lol.

could i use this one for squatting?

i bought that belt. i actually hate it. i don't think it's good for squatting at all, i prefer my velcro belt actually.

 

[Petrie]

Cutting has definitely effected my squat numbers. Was up to doing 315-320, but yesterday couldnt manage the 4th rep at 315. I'm going to keep pushing, but focus more on my deadlifts for the time being, as they were my weakest lift so have the most room to keep improving. I know a lot of you will balk at the idea of being willing to lost strength, but I'd simply like my bodyfat to be less than the 19% it currently sits at for the Summer, so if my squat drops to 300lbs or so, I'm fine with that until Fall.

I'm really thinking after a year on SS I'm ready to switch to a routine meant to be more about size anyways, as much as I enjoy getting stronger, aesthetics are still my final goal. Need to figure out where to go from here.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Cutting has definitely effected my squat numbers. Was up to doing 315-320, but yesterday couldnt manage the 4th rep at 315. I'm going to keep pushing, but focus more on my deadlifts for the time being, as they were my weakest lift so have the most room to keep improving. I know a lot of you will balk at the idea of being willing to lost strength, but I'd simply like my bodyfat to be less than the 19% it currently sits at for the Summer, so if my squat drops to 300lbs or so, I'm fine with that until Fall.

I'm really thinking after a year on SS I'm ready to switch to a routine meant to be more about size anyways, as much as I enjoy getting stronger, aesthetics are still my final goal. Need to figure out where to go from here.

Once you get a little past intermediate I think it's fine to switch to a bodybuilding-ish routine. There's no problem with that.

 

[grumble]

Once you get a little past intermediate I think it's fine to switch to a bodybuilding-ish routine. There's no problem with that.

I have a few thoughts:

1. A full YEAR on SS? That seems extremely long for a program intended to be a few months long.

2. It depends on your version of intermediate. If you're past intermediate, then you've given up on making weekly progress and need complex programming. This would probably not involve the numbers posted (I was thinking a squat in the high 400's, etc).

 

[Petrie]

I have a few thoughts:

1. A full YEAR on SS? That seems extremely long for a program intended to be a few months long.

2. It depends on your version of intermediate. If you're past intermediate, then you've given up on making weekly progress and need complex programming. This would probably not involve the numbers posted (I was thinking a squat in the high 400's, etc).

Everything I've been told says SS is something many people stay on for a year or more.

I'm not at a year yet, I believe I began SS in July last year. I'm definitely not past an intermediate level, I'm just itching to see some more size gains instead of the focus on strength.

I know it's time for a new program, as my progress has level out with regard to SS even before I began to cut.

Once you get a little past intermediate I think it's fine to switch to a bodybuilding-ish routine. There's no problem with that.

I'm not past an intermediate level, in fact I think I'm just reaching intermediate; my numbers are as follows:

Squat 315 3x5
Barbell Bench 205 3x5
Deadlift 335 3x5
OHP 160 3x5
Power Cleans 185 5x3


Maybe it's time to really look into 5/3/1, since I know next to nothing about it but have heard often enough that it's the next logical step after SS. Maybe with the BBB for some size gains, research time I suppose.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I have a few thoughts:

1. A full YEAR on SS? That seems extremely long for a program intended to be a few months long.

2. It depends on your version of intermediate. If you're past intermediate, then you've given up on making weekly progress and need complex programming. This would probably not involve the numbers posted (I was thinking a squat in the high 400's, etc).

A squat in the high 400's would be pushing most people's physical limits without gaining weight.

 

[ezrarh]

I have a few thoughts:

1. A full YEAR on SS? That seems extremely long for a program intended to be a few months long.

2. It depends on your version of intermediate. If you're past intermediate, then you've given up on making weekly progress and need complex programming. This would probably not involve the numbers posted (I was thinking a squat in the high 400's, etc).

1. Nothing wrong with that, especially if he's continually progressing.

2. The weight would be dependent on your bodyweight but anybody doing high 400s for squat is well pass intermediate.

 

[grumble]

A squat in the high 400's would be pushing most people's physical limits without gaining weight.

I'd assumed weight gain. Yeah, you'd need to look into advanced programming for that, definitely.

ie very experienced. It'd be post-texas method.

 

[nick nacc]

You guys have to watch this. Apparently the preworkout supplement Craze, might be giving people whacked out dreams.

Funny as hell.

DAMN subscribed these guys are hilarious

 

[Cooter]

Decided to weigh myself today for a couple of reasons. One, I haven't done so in a while, and two, I haven't been partaking in my usual cheat days nearly as often and I look a bit more thin. Last time I weighed I was 187 and this morning I was 184. Doesn't sound like much but with my squat increasing and all my other lifts staying put I'm pretty happy. I'll post a pic soon to show you guys what a lean mean 184 looks like! lol

EDIT:

I could get down to 180 and have abs but that's not an enjoyable life IMO.

 

[Domino Theory]

Chin ups are easier.

Yes, chin ups are easier, presumably because they incorporate more bicep. Pullups are more lat centric.

Thanks. I tried doing some Pull Ups today as well as on Monday and I was amazed at the discrepency between my ability to do Chin Ups and my inability to do Pull Ups. I think I needed 80-100lbs of assistance for the Pull Ups in order to do 6-8 reps.

Also, where should your body position itself when doing Pull Ups? I noticed that after a few reps, my body would naturally push away from the position I was in so that my arms would work more than my traps/lats (which would explain my forward posture imbalance )

 

[Anton Sugar]

I finally saw a "dudebro" horror moment at the gym. I know everyone has these stories, but I usually take them with a grain of salt, because they're so unreal and over the top.

So today is squat day. Before I can grab it, these two dudes take a squat rack. Fair enough, everyone needs to squat! Still, my squatter sense was tingling--I didn't think these guys were gonna make adequate use of it. Maybe it was the "Bad Boy Fighter" shirt one of them had on.

All of the racks are used up, so I just pick some squat stands and go at it. Today was my 3's day for 5/3/1. These dudes kept looking over at me, awkwardly, as I continued to put weight on the bar, and it kinda seemed like they were trying to match me? Keep in mind, they're pretty jacked. At least, more muscular than me.

But their reps/technique...dear god. Quarter squats, at most, working up to 245 lbs. And the entire fucking set, them "pushing" each other with "Fuck yeah, man!" "Hit it!" "You got this!" "Nice!"

HIGH FIVES

ACTUAL HIGH FIVES

Maybe they didn't know any better. But it HAS to be strange when you're doing quarter squats, and a smaller dude in the same room is doing 100+ more pounds than you and going below parallel. Do people delude themselves that easily? Even the newb doing SS right next to them was squatting 225 to parallel.

I feel like kind of an elitist posting this. I'm not against enthusiastic lifting buddies or people learning to squat...but put some damned effort into it, at least.

In other news, one of my Tommy Kono knee sleeves is starting to rip. Pretty disappointing, but I pretty much rely on them to keep my knees warm and pain-free during squats. Will have to order more.

 

[parrotbeak]

I was told the only reason my gym has an area for olympic weightlifting is because of Tommy Kono.

 

[rando14]

I finally saw a "dudebro" horror moment at the gym. I know everyone has these stories, but I usually take them with a grain of salt, because they're so unreal and over the top.

So today is squat day. Before I can grab it, these two dudes take a squat rack. Fair enough, everyone needs to squat! Still, my squatter sense was tingling--I didn't think these guys were gonna make adequate use of it. Maybe it was the "Bad Boy Fighter" shirt one of them had on.

All of the racks are used up, so I just pick some squat stands and go at it. Today was my 3's day for 5/3/1. These dudes kept looking over at me, awkwardly, as I continued to put weight on the bar, and it kinda seemed like they were trying to match me? Keep in mind, they're pretty jacked. At least, more muscular than me.

But their reps/technique...dear god. Quarter squats, at most, working up to 245 lbs. And the entire fucking set, them "pushing" each other with "Fuck yeah, man!" "Hit it!" "You got this!" "Nice!"

HIGH FIVES

ACTUAL HIGH FIVES

Maybe they didn't know any better. But it HAS to be strange when you're doing quarter squats, and a smaller dude in the same room is doing 100+ more pounds than you and going below parallel. Do people delude themselves that easily? Even the newb doing SS right next to them was squatting 225 to parallel.

I feel like kind of an elitist posting this. I'm not against enthusiastic lifting buddies or people learning to squat...but put some damned effort into it, at least.

In other news, one of my Tommy Kono knee sleeves is starting to rip. Pretty disappointing, but I pretty much rely on them to keep my knees warm and pain-free during squats. Will have to order more.

Haha

 

[bro1]

Anybody else getting stronger as they get older? I'm 36 now, and am stronger than I think I have ever been. Got my squat up to 315 for 3 and and my deadlift at 405 for 3. I just need to give my body more time to recover and deal with aches and pains that I never had before.

Also, I built a home gym and I have to tell you using a free floating squat rack can be a bit scary. I don't have bumper plates or safety bars so pushing to your limit is always a bit risky.

 

[bro1]

I finally saw a "dudebro" horror moment at the gym. I know everyone has these stories, but I usually take them with a grain of salt, because they're so unreal and over the top.

So today is squat day. Before I can grab it, these two dudes take a squat rack. Fair enough, everyone needs to squat! Still, my squatter sense was tingling--I didn't think these guys were gonna make adequate use of it. Maybe it was the "Bad Boy Fighter" shirt one of them had on.

All of the racks are used up, so I just pick some squat stands and go at it. Today was my 3's day for 5/3/1. These dudes kept looking over at me, awkwardly, as I continued to put weight on the bar, and it kinda seemed like they were trying to match me? Keep in mind, they're pretty jacked. At least, more muscular than me.

But their reps/technique...dear god. Quarter squats, at most, working up to 245 lbs. And the entire fucking set, them "pushing" each other with "Fuck yeah, man!" "Hit it!" "You got this!" "Nice!"

HIGH FIVES

ACTUAL HIGH FIVES

Maybe they didn't know any better. But it HAS to be strange when you're doing quarter squats, and a smaller dude in the same room is doing 100+ more pounds than you and going below parallel. Do people delude themselves that easily? Even the newb doing SS right next to them was squatting 225 to parallel.

I feel like kind of an elitist posting this. I'm not against enthusiastic lifting buddies or people learning to squat...but put some damned effort into it, at least.

In other news, one of my Tommy Kono knee sleeves is starting to rip. Pretty disappointing, but I pretty much rely on them to keep my knees warm and pain-free during squats. Will have to order more.

This is a main reason why I stopped going to a gym and built my own. So many times did I see guys "squatting" 315lbs and only going a quarter down. Or worse, getting lectured on why I shouldn't go below parallel by somebody. Also, the fact that I was told that I couldn't do deadlifts because they disturbed the older remembers was the nail in the coffin for me.

 

[parrotbeak]

This is a main reason why I stopped going to a gym and built my own. So many times did I see guys "squatting" 315lbs and only going a quarter down. Or worse, getting lectured on why I shouldn't go below parallel by somebody. Also, the fact that I was told that I couldn't do deadlifts because they disturbed the older remembers was the nail in the coffin for me.

What? I assume "remembers" = "members" but still makes no sense. What was the rationale?

 

[bro1]

What? I assume "remembers" = "members" but still makes no sense. What was the rationale?

Members is correct. And the noise of the bar hitting the ground and the fact that there wasn't a dedicated area made the YMCA staff ask me to do them only between 7am and 9am.

 

[Ashhong]

Members is correct. And the noise of the bar hitting the ground and the fact that there wasn't a dedicated area made the YMCA staff ask me to do them only between 7am and 9am.

YMCA? Aren't those free? Not to justify their "rule" but I could see a YMCA doing that. It is a crap load of old people at mine.

 

[bro1]

YMCA? Aren't those free? Not to justify their "rule" but I could see a YMCA doing that. It is a crap load of old people at mine.

$85 a month at mine outside of Charleston, SC for a family.

 

[AdventureRacing]

You know what's funny in my gym? I've been going for a little over 2 weeks and i have never seen a single person doing squats. Guess maybe that's a good thing for me?

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

You know what's funny in my gym? I've been going for a little over 2 weeks and i have never seen a single person doing squats. Guess maybe that's a good thing for me?

Pretty sure this guy at the gym who I met who's doing stronglifts and I have scared off a lot of people. I used to see a bunch of guys "squatting" before but now were the only ones doing em.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Back at home I lift at a YMCA and it had every type of gym goer in there. From your high school kids 2 years away from lower back problems, to snarky old powerlifters who thought they owned the place, and will yell at you for doing something even slightly wrong. Its a mess. I've seen it all really. A group of 15 year olds doing 1/8th squats in a smith machine with 405, cheering and yelling. Then they proceeded to do supersets of bicep curls and pushups all together in the middle of the weight rack area, causing a huge ruckus.

Then there was a really old guy, surely in his 70s, doing 1/2 squats with 7 plates. The whole time screaming like he was being mauled from the inside by a bobcat. I really didn't know what to take from that.

We also had a guy who used to be a part of cirque de soliel that would do crazy gymnastics shit on the pull up bar.

Then your standard dudebros, smelly guys, crabby old people. Fun place. Now I don't hate my uni gym quite so much.

 

[HarryHengst]

You know what's funny in my gym? I've been going for a little over 2 weeks and i have never seen a single person doing squats. Guess maybe that's a good thing for me?

My gym only has one squat rack, so im pretty happy that almost no one does squats or presses.

 

[parrotbeak]

I go to two branches of YMCAs and both have a lot of people who lift heavy and with good form. I definitely think form catches on. My previous gym had a lot of younger guys who turned every workout into who can push the most for 2 inches, and beginners would copy their form all the time. Watching newbs struggle to bench 95 lbs for a 2 inch ROM is excruciating, but who am I to tell them how to lift.

But the Ys I go to now have lots of older guys who will help. I've seen older guys tell kids to drop the weight and fix their form. The kids will balk of course and the old guys have to be persistent. One day i hope to have the experience and patience to give advice to kids who don't want it.

 

[Bossun]

7 weeks into my diet and I gained 5 kilos.

Now at 62,7.

I started going to the gym now too. Have some problem with my left shoulder though but can't wait to get ripped. The change is already pretty impressive.

I'd like for my arms to get even more thicker, and correct my back problem even more.

 

[AdventureRacing]

My gym only has one squat rack, so im pretty happy that almost no one does squats or presses.

Same at mine although some people use it for other things.

 

[demon]

First attempt at 85lbs on the OHP tonight and got 5x5, and monday was my first attempt at 145 on the benchpress and got 5x5. Hope this progress continues for a while. My left shoulder felt a tad weird during the last couple reps of the last couple sets of the OHP tho...

 

[Ashhong]

$85 a month at mine outside of Charleston, SC for a family.

Ouch, I could have sworn the Y is free around me...

I hate using the squat rack for squats. I don't know if it's because I'm short, but I have to step all the way out of the rack in order to be able to squat without it hitting the bars. I prefer to use power rack. I hog that shit for at least an hour with my partner doing squats, OHP, and maybe deads if nothing else is available.

 

[Drealmcc0y]

Any good advices on a pure protein powder product that I can buy on ebay?

I use serious mass protein powder/weight gainer 3 times a day for the last 6 months. Its good, but im looking to use 100% protein powder straight after my workout instead of the serious mass.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Any good advices on a pure protein powder product that I can buy on ebay?

I use serious mass protein powder/weight gainer 3 times a day for the last 6 months. Its good, but im looking to use 100% protein powder straight after my workout instead of the serious mass.

What do you mean? Like normal $50 range protein or more like the $80 whey isolate?

 

[Drealmcc0y]

What do you mean? Like normal $50 range protein or more like the $80 whey isolate?

I mean organic. You know the really healthy pure protein powders.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I mean organic. You know the really healthy pure protein powders.

Not sure on organic but there's stuff like this: http://www.physicaladdictions.com/Proteins/Whey-Protein/Magic-WPI-5lbs

Whey isolate not filled with garbage.

 

[sangreal]

I mean organic. You know the really healthy pure protein powders.

ON Natural whey

I don't like the taste, personally, but I seem to be in a minority