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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
The best teriyaki is owned and staffed by Koreans selling bastardized Japanese and Chinese cuisine cooked by Mexicans with a majority White consumer base... at least in my experience here in the Seattle area.

I could eat it seven days a week, though I've settled for once a week on account of my funding and my health.

Yep, that's the stuff.

The best I've had was in Tillicum right outside the main gate of Ft. Lewis in a hole in the wall. I think it was aptly called "house of teryaki."
 
I need some suggestions for exercises to build my neck. My shoulders, chest and arms have all gained size in the past year or so, but my neck is still the same size as it was when I started working out. Any ideas? Thanks!
 
I need some suggestions for exercises to build my neck. My shoulders, chest and arms have all gained size in the past year or so, but my neck is still the same size as it was when I started working out. Any ideas? Thanks!

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I know boxers have been doing that for ages, and it was adopted by MMA as well, which is why it's probably catching on more now.

Well for MMA I know it's to promote non snappitude when you're laying on/getting laid on your head/neck.

I would imagine boxers to it to keep their heads from snapping back when they get hit.

I'm kind of confused why anyone else is doing it.
 
So I was just bending down to do some light stretching before a run and a got a severe pain in my left thigh. I layed down for about 30 seconds until I could pull myself to my feet. I'm quite confident I pulled my thigh muscle, so what's the best way to get it healed back up as quickly as possible? I have road hockey on Sunday that I'd rather not miss, not to mention I want to keep my running schedule up as much as possible.

Any help, guys? I really don't want to have this pulled muscle be more prolonged than it has to be.
 

lenovox1

Member
Any help, guys? I really don't want to have this pulled muscle be more prolonged than it has to be.

Rest, rest, rest. Also ice, elevate, and compress with much tape. Stretch, and warm-up before you stretch. Stretching before a workout is just supposed to get the blood flowing, not make you Rockette-ready.

And, personally, I've gone out on stage with a strained muscle after doing the splits without warming up for them. I don't recommend doing that if you don't have to, you need to get some rest. But you might be fine for that hockey game on Sunday if you can find someone that knows how to tape.
 
Is the neck training a BB thing? I've noticed a lot of people starting to do that, is it a fad or what?

In the mans world of BB, not girly PL'ing, we train all body parts.

Even the toes

Been training the neck on and off for about a year, but it's not practical as my shirt sizes shoot through the roof if I need to button the neck, then it just looks like im wearing a cape :(..currently 19" neck for shirts

But paired with a thick well built set of traps and delts, you'll look like a Greek god
 

snoopen

Member
Can't remember what page it was, but someone asked about creatine pills vs creatine powder. was there any response?

edit: have made the transition into a man and ordered chalk instead of switching between gloves and skin ruining lifts.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
Something I learned about squats from a professional gymnast and former bodybuilder. He told me 90% of people that are squatting are not doing it correctly, that they cannot even correctly do a proper squat with no weight so they shouldn't even be using weight until they can do it with proper form and no weight first.

So I tried it with "proper" form and it was really a revelation to me. Basically just sit on a chair, cross your arms over your chest, and get up without leaning forward at all. You want your back to be parallel to the chairs back as you rise, so have someone hold their arms out in front of your chest and if you lean into their arms you are doing it wrong. It should be one movement from your legs going up from 90 degrees or a little lower, and your upper body and torso rising up on a parallel line to the back of the chair.


I tried this and it was hard as fuck. I could barely do 5 of them with proper form. A few months later I am doing 25-30 a set with a 40lb vest and I have seen more growth in my legs than when I was squatting 300+ at the gym. I cannot even imagine how hard it would be to get 280-300 up in the correct form the way you raise off the chair.

Here is a shitty pic to try to illustrate what I am trying to say, as it is kind of hard to explain with words. Maybe a video would be better, will try to add one next time. Try it out and let me know what you guys think.


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Do that with 220+ and I'll give you a dollar.
 

kylej

Banned
Well for MMA I know it's to promote non snappitude when you're laying on/getting laid on your head/neck.

I would imagine boxers to it to keep their heads from snapping back when they get hit.

I'm kind of confused why anyone else is doing it.

Bitches love swole necks.
 

Petrie

Banned
I think I'm going to cut squatting down to one day a week. I know it goes against everything in this thread, but I'm getting some major stretch marks on the inside and toward the back of my upper leg, as well as some towards my quads, and I think it's simply from growing too fast with all the squatting in SS. I want to be strong but not at the expense of having what I consider an attractive body.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
You're gonna get stretch marks wherever you grow. Stretch marks are something to be proud off.

Marks on my Bi's started getting red and bruising, fuckin awesome.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I'm thinking of training my neck once I move past the standard SL routine. I have a relatively skinny neck and a big head on top of a skinny neck on top of a muscular body just looks silly.
 

Mr.City

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I think I'm going to cut squatting down to one day a week. I know it goes against everything in this thread, but I'm getting some major stretch marks on the inside and toward the back of my upper leg, as well as some towards my quads, and I think it's simply from growing too fast with all the squatting in SS. I want to be strong but not at the expense of having what I consider an attractive body.

How much has your body weight been going up?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
In the mans world of BB, not girly PL'ing, we train all body parts.

Even the toes

Been training the neck on and off for about a year, but it's not practical as my shirt sizes shoot through the roof if I need to button the neck, then it just looks like im wearing a cape :(..currently 19" neck for shirts

But paired with a thick well built set of traps and delts, you'll look like a Greek god

Yeah, I'm good on that, haha. I think neck is the last thing I'd want to fuck with. I probably should look more into it. I know Wendler does it now, but I thought it was part of his rehab.

Bitches love swole necks.

lol
 

Veezy

que?
Has anybody done Greyskull LP? Any thoughts on it if you haven't?

GSLP is, in my opinion, the LP program for somebody interested in a program that can last for an incredibly long time that has great benefits for both strength and physique and you won't get bored of. It's discussed in the OP, but unless somebody is an absolute and complete novice, SSLP has you squatting and deadlifting way too much. Eventually, in SS, you switch to a lower amount of volume (per week) in DL and add in PCs, but you're still squatting three times a week. In addition, you're going multiple program adjustments without a good feel of when you should (I'm talking over a 6-8 month peroid). You won't put up the absolute numbers you can on SSLP, but unless you're consuming an incredible amount of food squatting 3x a week just sucks. There are those that will disagree with me, and that's fine, but I have shit knees and enjoy a program that allows me to curl every once and a while.

Also, on your deloads, you can beat rep goals so you're still seeing progression. Which is better than the "just do three more sets of five" mentality of SS.

You can treat GSLP exactly like SS, except your middle exercise can be whatever you want. A common template is:

On days you bench, do 2x sets of curls (EZ bar or dumbbell) for 10-12 reps after a warm up.
On days you press, do 2x sets of weighted chins (if you can do sets of chins) for 6-8 reps.
Six days a week do sets of push ups and chins throughout the day.

People give low weight chin ups a lot of shit, but the extra volume doesn't hurt at all and you can progress lineally just like your barbell exercises. Also, you can do two to three days of endurance work if you'd like to be even more well rounded.

If you're just stepping foot in the gym I'd recommend getting into SSLP first to understand the lifts and get a baseline for your exercises, but after a month you can switch over and keep pushing up numbers for a long while. Finally, it integrates quite nicely into 5/3/1, which also has you, on your last set, do as many reps of the lift as possible.


@Alienshogun - I've been doing next extensions since Johnny Pain recommended them as the last "lift" of the GSLP when I was still on that. Put a few inches on my neck and made my traps look better. I don't love doing shrugs, so I find deadlifts and neck extensions make that upper area look just fine. To be fair, I really don't want a huge neck as I'm not that tall and I don't want to look like hobgoblin.
 

Mr.City

Member
Has anybody done Greyskull LP? Any thoughts on it if you haven't?

It works well, like any smart linear progression program. The curls and the max sets at the end keep things interesting and seem to help people's press/bench a little. The idea of putting squats and deadlifts at the end of the workout is something I've incorporated into my regular routine. Also, keeping deadlifts down to once a week (Weds) and squatting to twice a week (Mon/Fri) ensures that you won't hit the wall as quickly (see baldermon's posts about keeping deadlifts to once a week and squatting heavy to twice a week and how his workouts improved)
 

Veezy

que?
It works well, like any smart linear progression program. The curls and the max sets at the end keep things interesting and seem to help people's press/bench a little.

What I really enjoyed, when I was doing the program, is on my deloads having my JEFIT tell me what my current one rep max was and trying to beat it using reps (the app tells you what you need to up, up to 20 reps). I always felt really pumped leaving the gym when I had upped my 1RM, even if it was only a few pounds, on a deload. Huge personal motivation. Then, when you beat your previous 5RM and manage to get out six or seven reps on the third set, you feel on fire.

Who am I kidding, I just liked doing curls. Giving myself the stink eye in the mirror while gettin my swole on.
 
My lats and biceps have the worst stretch marks, but hey..it's a sign of groth
I have them on my chest and biceps I used to have stretch marks on my stomach because I used to be extremely overweight (near 300) and then I lost about 100 lbs and they disappeared. Then I started lifting weights and now they're back :( Oh well. My wife doesn't mind these and neither do I.
 
Also, does anyone else just love getting bicep pumps that make it difficult to do other exercises afterwards? It always gives me that mental boost to finish my routine. "look at you! you're such a beast!" :p
 

deadbeef

Member
Also, does anyone else just love getting bicep pumps that make it difficult to do other exercises afterwards? It always gives me that mental boost to finish my routine. "look at you! you're such a beast!" :p

Yeah, I also like to flex in the gym mirror and lift my shirt to show off my abs.
 

kylej

Banned
Also, does anyone else just love getting bicep pumps that make it difficult to do other exercises afterwards? It always gives me that mental boost to finish my routine. "look at you! you're such a beast!" :p

Yes I do. Also the Too Swoled Up To Wash Your Back moment during every post-workout shower is always glorious.
 

Izick

Member
I'm here to spread the good news, friends! The lord and savior of snacks, or as I like to call it, Edamame!

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These little green-beans are so awesome. I forgot how much, but they pack in more protein than peanuts, and are lower in fat. They taste very similar to peanuts, except for no real major sweetness to them. They're soooo good though. Trust me, I was skeptical when I saw them as well, but I ventured to taste them and damn am I happy I did. They're perfect snack food, because you can eat them by the handful, they're addictive, but like I said, they're high in protein, and pretty good fat-wise (I think on that last part.). Try them out some time!
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
After doing triceps today I went outside for some fresh air, the neighbor's draught horse came over and tried to put it's hoof in my tricep.
 

The Chef

Member
I'm gonna fucking blow up 225 on bench tonight. Gonna fucking murder that shit.

Hell yeah son. Handle that and report back.

Now that Im trying to actually keep track of getting 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of protein in my diet its really not that hard. Shoot I made a breakfast smoothie this morning easily 70 grams of protein (Shoot, Fage yogurt has 23 grams per cup). Piece o cake.
Question though, Im taking this week of and MAYBE some of next week to let my shoulder heal. Is it necessary for me to continue to try and put back this much protein a day without hittin the gym for like 10 days?
 

Ashhong

Member
I have a lot of pain in my wrist when doing lying tricep extensions. Does anybody else get it? I'm wondering if I have poor form or if my wrists are just weak. I'm only doing 40lbs, but by the 7th rep they are burning.

I don't know if bad wrist form is possible when doing these. When the bar goes behind and under your head, there's only one way your wrists can be really. I'm using EZ curl bars btw.
 

balddemon

Banned
I have a lot of pain in my wrist when doing lying tricep extensions. Does anybody else get it? I'm wondering if I have poor form or if my wrists are just weak. I'm only doing 40lbs, but by the 7th rep they are burning.

I don't know if bad wrist form is possible when doing these. When the bar goes behind and under your head, there's only one way your wrists can be really. I'm using EZ curl bars btw.

i tried those after you posted a while back, and it seemed like my wrists were mostly straight the whole time. the only thing moving was my forearms, and my upper arms were just about straight up and down
 

Ashhong

Member
i tried those after you posted a while back, and it seemed like my wrists were mostly straight the whole time. the only thing moving was my forearms, and my upper arms were just about straight up and down

Yea I haven't done them since then because I was too tired after SL days, but did it again. I'm trying to imagine what you're saying, but I just don't see how to keep them straight. They are fine when I bend my forearm and the weight comes towards my face, but then when I rotate my shoulders and the weight goes behind my head, my wrists turn to hold the weights. Maybe I'm going too far behind my head, or not far enough.
 

balddemon

Banned
Yea I haven't done them since then because I was too tired after SL days, but did it again. I'm trying to imagine what you're saying, but I just don't see how to keep them straight. They are fine when I bend my forearm and the weight comes towards my face, but then when I rotate my shoulders and the weight goes behind my head, my wrists turn to hold the weights. Maybe I'm going too far behind my head, or not far enough.

try pointing your elbows above and behind you from the start
 

_Isaac

Member
Can also envision your feet strapped to the ceiling, and you have to pull yourself "up" so your ass touches the ceiling (thanks to Dan John for that tip).

Can someone explain to me what this little tidbit means from the OP? Supposedly it's for the Olympic/High Bar Squat.
 

Timedog

good credit (by proxy)
225 3 sets of 5 reps. Almost didn't get the last rep of the last set, and then I said "fuck it, turbo". Boom.

Went from 300 last workout to 315 on deadlift for 5 reps. After I sat down I probably looked like I wanted to kill somebody.

Got 10 reps instead of 5 on PR squats and 9 instead of 5 on PR barbell rows.

Amazing workout.

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om nom nom

I made these once, and somehow got the rice good (the spam is brainless). That seaweed wrap stuff was awful though. I couldn't chew through it. Is there some preparation you do to the seaweed to make it easily chew-through-able?
 

cdyhybrid

Member
I made these once, and somehow got the rice good (the spam is brainless). That seaweed wrap stuff was awful though. I couldn't chew through it. Is there some preparation you do to the seaweed to make it easily chew-through-able?

I don't think so? I've never actually made it, haha. Always had a much-more-capable female make them or a professional. I would imagine any Asian marketplace would sell it. Japanese name is nori. It's not always like going through butter with a hot knife, but you shouldn't have to gnaw at it.
 

Carbonox

Member
Derp, just discovered Bavarian smoked cheese. For a tiny diddy roll of it (compared to the lumps of cheese you can buy), 1000+ calories, over 60g of protein and lot of fat. Who cares, shit tastes good and I could kill a roll in one sitting. I bought it yesterday in Asda for those interested.

Highly recommended for those wanting easy bulk-up options.
 

Mr.City

Member
I have a lot of pain in my wrist when doing lying tricep extensions. Does anybody else get it? I'm wondering if I have poor form or if my wrists are just weak. I'm only doing 40lbs, but by the 7th rep they are burning.

I don't know if bad wrist form is possible when doing these. When the bar goes behind and under your head, there's only one way your wrists can be really. I'm using EZ curl bars btw.

What happens when you use less weight?
 
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