entremet
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Ah shoulders, they can be so delicate. What programming were you following? I just see dudes blast their shoulders at my gym and all I can think, man, you're gonna have it tough in a few years.
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Ah shoulders, they can be so delicate. What programming were you following? I just see dudes blast their shoulders at my gym and all I can think, man, you're gonna have it tough in a few years.
Shit, I'll be there in 1 more year probably. That's only a total of 2.5-3 years.
Yeah you can just extend current progress linearly. In 10 years you'll be pulling. 2000 lbs.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Hey FitnessGAF...I hurt my shoulder benching 4 or 5 weeks ago (research is telling me it's the rotator cuff and not the AC joint). It's not unbearable, just always there reducing strength. I have a doctor appointment set in a couple of weeks but I just wanted to see if anyone had the same experience / can offer any advice...thanks in advance.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I have/had rotator cuff discomfort. I started doing these during warm up, and it's helped a lot.
Also, make sure you're rowing (working your rear delts and back) like your life depends on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylOsTXQdfkk
L0st Id3ntity
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So I had this fitness coach harassing me today in the gym during my deadlift.
I'm in my 4th month of bulking for the first time in my life, and gradually built my deadlift weight up to 200lbs for 8-10reps, I read tons of stuff and watched countless deadlift videos. I'm surrounded by mirrors in my gym, pretty sure my lift is identical to this guy's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cXHxB3ub_9U#t=83s
The fitness coach didn't like it one bit, he said I'm only working my spine like that, and said I should maintain a fully round back throughout the movement. He also wanted a wider stance and the bar touching my leg in starting position.
Is he mixing squats with deadlifts? damn I don't want to go back to square one derp.
I'm in my 4th month of bulking for the first time in my life, and gradually built my deadlift weight up to 200lbs for 8-10reps, I read tons of stuff and watched countless deadlift videos. I'm surrounded by mirrors in my gym, pretty sure my lift is identical to this guy's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cXHxB3ub_9U#t=83s
The fitness coach didn't like it one bit, he said I'm only working my spine like that, and said I should maintain a fully round back throughout the movement. He also wanted a wider stance and the bar touching my leg in starting position.
Is he mixing squats with deadlifts? damn I don't want to go back to square one derp.
Fine for more reps. Eventually hurts too.
From what I'm told, this part is correct.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yep, 10-20lbs 10-15 reps. I also sometimes do some other stuff, but this is the main thing I do.
Thank you so much, I'll try tomorrow before I lift
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Do it for as many sets as you need. I typically do around 3-5 sets.
I'd also try scarecrows, they make my shoulders feel amazing and really warm your body up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucWO_6M0c0&t=1m26s - first exercise here
Just use light, light dumbbells. I use the tiny 2.5lb barbell plates in each hand.
A fully round back? Do you mean an arched back?
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...8969.0.60691.13.11.0.0.0.0.238.1179.2j4j2.8.0.
This will help. Also, fuck that "fitness coach" if he is harassing you during your sets.
Might want to try something that doesn't hurt you if you are sure your form is right.
Do you train the overhead press at all? It really helped me with my shoulder issues.
Any suggestions for other tricep isolations? I do the one where I raise a weight above and behind my head, as well as the tricep extension with the pulley machine thing... (sorry don't know fancy terms lol).
Wanted to do the lying extension after watching the Rippetoe video, and it does work my tris pretty well.
Yeah, but you have elite genes.Shit, I'll be there in 1 more year probably. That's only a total of 2.5-3 years.
It seems like I could probably do these without weight at all...just as a stretch...it honestly hurts most after sleep so I'll try these in the morning.
There are dips, the close grip bench press, using a cable machine to do tricep extensions isn't bad either.
entremet
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I'd take some time off until it's fully recovered. Shoulder injuries suck and can be easily compound if you don't allow some rest. When you come back, I'd definitely go light on the OHP press and bench. But definitely see a doc if it is serious.
Captain_Spanky
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Went for two jogs this week in an effort to start being more active. After each one I've felt awful, short of breath, headachey, coughing a lot, light headed, almost to the point of being sick. Is this normal and basically just means I'm unfit but will get better with persistence? Should I keep at it? Because I want to!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I don't know about that, but that's probably got a lot to do with my progress thus far.
Forgot to mention I do those as well. I guess I'm wondering what the best ones are, since I don't want to waste my time doing the lesser ones. Dips, cable machine, and close grip bench?
Wait? You do ALL of those together? I'd just stick to one, preferably the one that gives you no or little pain.
That's the wrong lift to take out.
god thats depressing.
I'm having wrist pains with that workout though, even at relatively light weights.
I think I'll keep doing them for a little while longer just to see if my wrists toughen up.
Seems like you must be doing them wrong then, as there really shouldn't be much stress, if any, on your wrists at lighter weights.
J Tourettes
Banned
Sounds within the realms of normality to me. You might want to slow the pace down a bit if you're new to it.
I had my first workout for nine weeks today, reset all my lifts by at least 20% and the squats still kicked my arse, could only manage two on the last set. On the positive side my rib and chest don't seem to be hurting so hopefully the extended break did some good for me.
Captain_Spanky
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Thanks for the advice. That's encouraging. I'm probably a shit jogger anyway, but I really like it.
Do seated dumbbell overhead extensions instead.
I do similar routine -
Weighted dips
Cable pull down / push down
close grip bench
Overhead extensions
Sometimes I'll do skullcrushers as well, but depends.
Ah, that's what I was trying to say earlier, didn't really know a name for it. When you do those, is there a certain place to put your hands under the dumbbell? I usually put my hands on top of each other, flat under the top part of the dumbbell, while slightly wrapped around the handle. I notice that it works out one arm a bit more depending on which one is on top.
Is that right? I can just switch the hands after a set so that's not a big deal.
Why so much work for one muscle?
Or you could just do overhead db press, which has the same movement only you can use more weight. Dumbbell tricep extensions are pointless.
Well that day I just happened to have some extra energy, and it was my SL/chest/triceps day. I do the lying and cable extension mainly for the triceps, and throw in dips since it's also good for the chest. The close grip one was just thrown in because I was already in the position when doing lying extensions.
Anyway, yea it is a lot. That's why I want to cut it down to just a few of the better ones.
Put your hands in the same position you would if you were doing diamond pushups -
I will put my thumbs on the handle one above the other so that the weight doesn't bash me in the back of the head when it gets heavy.
No, the movement is not exactly the same, and I already workout my shoulders twice a week. I'd rather just isolate my triceps.
CliqWriter
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Really the preference is on you, but make sure you do your research. Different forms have different pros and cons. Personally I use the pills just cause it is convenient and the absorption rate is "supposed" to be better. Also, with mono many people complain about the water weight argument.
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That is completely normal but I fear you may be trying to do too much in the beginning. Try walking with some jogging in between, you'll gain endurance fast and your body won't feel like shit. A few pages back someone posted a diagram on the distances of both, you should look for it.
Put your hands in the same position you would if you were doing diamond pushups -
I will put my thumbs on the handle one above the other so that the weight doesn't bash me in the back of the head when it gets heavy.
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Ah of course, why didn't I think of that. Thanks!
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
CGBP or Dips by themselves are enough to build mass and strength for your triceps, all three heads.
I prefer cgbp and its been my tricep workout for the past 5-6 years.
ToyMachine228
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Anyone ever mix whey with pancake mix? How'd it come out? Thinking of giving it a try tomorrow morning.
Jaladinozozo
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Lol I think someone asked the same question and got shit on a week ago. He came back later in the thread and said that he tried it, and it was nowhere near the same as real jump roping. At least, I think that's what he said.
Was just browsing Hodge Twin videos, and came to the one about how it's better to lift moderate amount of weight at a higher rep than heavy weights because it's better on your joints and stuff. What is a good goal to reach for the big compound exercises?
Just looking for a general idea, so that later on I'll know if I'm straining myself too hard or not. Are high reps of body weight good for squats and bench? What about OHP and deadlift?
Hmmm I just pooped my pants while squatting. Good thing I have a home gym I guess
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Disregard everything they say and only watch their videos for the LoLs.
Oh, is that the general consensus regarding these guys? I know they're good entertainment but I thought it was good info. Will keep that in mind..
Hodge Twins are overall pretty decent, but you don't need to worship them. For example, they are completely against deadlifts, which I disagree with. Also I'm not 100% sure their info on cardio (slow placed) is best for fat burning, but I could be wrong.
They are, however, funny and enjoyable to watch, and they do seem to have unbiased product reviews which may be helpful for those people that enjoy buying various supplements. They usually have good nutritional advice as well.
As with any Youtube personality, "shop around" and make sure everything makes sense. If you have any reason to doubt, do some research and find out if it's the truth.
But, at the end of the day, you can watch whatever the fuck you wanna watch.
They are, however, funny and enjoyable to watch, and they do seem to have unbiased product reviews which may be helpful for those people that enjoy buying various supplements. They usually have good nutritional advice as well.
As with any Youtube personality, "shop around" and make sure everything makes sense. If you have any reason to doubt, do some research and find out if it's the truth.
But, at the end of the day, you can watch whatever the fuck you wanna watch.
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