Syphon Filter
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Pretty good. Today i did 6 sprints but on 10. Did you walk during rest time or stop?
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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Pretty good. Today i did 6 sprints but on 10. Did you walk during rest time or stop?
Silphonica
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That might just work.
Yeah I have nuts too.
Might try the last of what I have left with bananas.
Lamel
Banned
That's what it feels like. Try to get a feel for your pace and if 10 is good to start out with then start at 10.
I remember when I first did HIIT I puked right after. Then felt so good.
Works really well with peaches.
Enjoy. You earned it!
TheDarkStark
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The mistake most people make when cutting is doing way way way too much cardio.How do I stop losing strength on my cut
Also I'm down to 151 today, so I treated myself to a whole wheat bagel, half a costco red velvet cupcake, a plate of spaghetti, and who knows what else... the night is young. But 17 pounds down. I didn't even realize how fat I was because I'm not even close to where I thought I'd be. But I'm well on my way. Tonight we dine in hell.
Unless you're trying to build up your cardiovascular endurance, for something that requires it (like a marthaton), cardio is a complete waste of time. You would be much better offer doing something like p90x or crossfit that incorporates lifting and resistance training with cardio.
To keep as much muscle as possible on a cut, you want to lift extremely heavy (5 rep max) so that you body gets freaked out into thinking (if I lose this muscle, I will die) and it will prioritize burning fat over muscle.
Another big no-no: Don't cut your calories too much. Some people borderline starve themselves: You don't want to go any lower than about 1800 calories per day (give or take a little depending on age/weight/gender).
You will still lose some strength most likely, but it will be far less than if you do it any other way.
I have not done an ounce of cardio. It's been all diet. I used to eat a shit ton. Now I eat Oatmeal, Sometimes eggs, a shake, a salad and chicken for lunch, and a salad and some meat and a side for dinner, then a shake. And some fruit. Down 17 pounds. I eat until I'm not hungry, sometimes until I'm full (which is so substantially less than what I used to pack away... jesus).
For bulking? Nothing is technically bad for bulking. Pizza has protein, carbs, fats.. it's actually good for bulking. For your health it is not great.
sweeten your cottage cheese.
cottage cheese + egg whites or milk + banana + splenda + cocoa powder + peanut butter
blend then eat or try sticking it in freezer for 30-60min.
delicious
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Pizza is godlike for bulking, have it twice a week. I make my own pizza, usually all organic, that way I know exactly what I'm throwing in my body. Wheat dough, lowfat cheese, tomato puree with no sugar, lots of vegetables and chicken. If you're talking about ordering some Pizza Hut or your local place's though..yeah.. you'll bulk but most likely unwanted fat.
Still, I recommend this read for some insight on "bulking diets" http://www.t-nation.com/portal_includes/articles/2006/06-154-training.html
Also can't believe people do anything with cottage cheese..it's perfect just the way it is. I eat a tub of it with a spoon like it was Haagen Dazs.
Yeah I get my pizzas from local places where I trust the quality but the only minus is white bread :/. Or occasionally I'll just bake a Digiorno or Trader Joe's pizza. I can deal with giving up every other unhealthy snack to attain my goals (more muscle overall and a little more weight). But I just can't give up pizza. I can't!!!! Think I'm sittin at 163 pounds currently (though I still need to weigh on a legit scale to double check) as a 5'11" dude. Think I'll start cutting when I hit 170. Originally I was shooting for 180, but I don't really want to be that big, just want some muscle definition.
I absolutely hate plain cottage cheese, HATE. It's literally the worst plain dish I have ever tasted in my life. Very good with a shit ton of strawberries though.
I absolutely hate plain cottage cheese, HATE. It's literally the worst plain dish I have ever tasted in my life. Very good with a shit ton of strawberries though.
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Ah..boo.. well as long as you know what you're getting into. If anything then I'd cut down those kinds of pizzas to maybe once every 3-4 weeks.
I'd love a PM with a bit more detail on how you're prepping these. I love me some pizza, and being able to add a bit more when I'm bulking in a few weeks would be fantastic.
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Well, I'll tell you my love from making the pizzas is my bread maker I brought back from Japan. Without it I probably wouldn't bother with the hassle, but with it it's just chuck all the ingredients for the dough in, let it mix for a few minutes, let it rest, and then stretch it out. Just browsing Amazon, this is a very a similar model to the one we have: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005QFL0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The ingredients are as simple as whole wheat flour, olive oil, warm water, salt, and yeast, but the secret came from the types of flour we used and whether we added yeast or baking powder instead. I'm actually not sure how to explain it in English because I don't know the names of the flour as well here, but there are "strong" and "weaker" types of whole wheat flour. The amount of protein/gluten in them is the main difference but depending on the combination (and whether we used yeast for size or baking powder for dough elasticity) the dough would be drastically different. They were essentially hybrid crusts that we could use for tacos/tortillas/pizzas/gyros whatever.
Anyway, I'm sure all of the above is totally trivial and anyone following a recipe for making pizza dough could make one just fine, but this is just the result of my weird pizza experiments over the years. So yeah.. I plop my weird mix into the machine, get the dough, stretch it out on a pizza pie tray and add the toppings. I don't pre-cook the dough because nothing on my pizza needs serious cooking and I don't want the dough to stick to the tray too much (I don't grease it with anything, the mixture with the "weaker" flour actually makes the dough less sticky).
For sauce I just use a can of organic tomato puree. I season it with some basil/garlic powder but essentially it's flavorless tomato puree. Throw on some cooked vegetables..I prefer organic broccoli/asparagus/mushrooms/olives and then some meat of your choice to add on the protein. Cheese is whatever lowfat stuff you can find, but I also put spoonfuls of cream cheese or ricotta on it too. No idea if anyone does that in the states, might be a Japan-only thing. Only throw it in the oven for like 12-15 minutes at whatever random temperature, I've never seen much difference with 350, 400, or anything in between.
That was way longer than I intended it to be, but uh yeah that's my weird homemade pizzas. I might make one tomorrow so I'll take a picture. I dunno, they're not unfuckinbelievably spectacular but when you're watching what you're eating it's fun knowing you made it. Although all that guilt about the protein bars is making me think that'll be my next homemade experiment.. no idea why I never thought of making them. Maybe because I hate cooking with peanut butter.
The ingredients are as simple as whole wheat flour, olive oil, warm water, salt, and yeast, but the secret came from the types of flour we used and whether we added yeast or baking powder instead. I'm actually not sure how to explain it in English because I don't know the names of the flour as well here, but there are "strong" and "weaker" types of whole wheat flour. The amount of protein/gluten in them is the main difference but depending on the combination (and whether we used yeast for size or baking powder for dough elasticity) the dough would be drastically different. They were essentially hybrid crusts that we could use for tacos/tortillas/pizzas/gyros whatever.
Anyway, I'm sure all of the above is totally trivial and anyone following a recipe for making pizza dough could make one just fine, but this is just the result of my weird pizza experiments over the years. So yeah.. I plop my weird mix into the machine, get the dough, stretch it out on a pizza pie tray and add the toppings. I don't pre-cook the dough because nothing on my pizza needs serious cooking and I don't want the dough to stick to the tray too much (I don't grease it with anything, the mixture with the "weaker" flour actually makes the dough less sticky).
For sauce I just use a can of organic tomato puree. I season it with some basil/garlic powder but essentially it's flavorless tomato puree. Throw on some cooked vegetables..I prefer organic broccoli/asparagus/mushrooms/olives and then some meat of your choice to add on the protein. Cheese is whatever lowfat stuff you can find, but I also put spoonfuls of cream cheese or ricotta on it too. No idea if anyone does that in the states, might be a Japan-only thing. Only throw it in the oven for like 12-15 minutes at whatever random temperature, I've never seen much difference with 350, 400, or anything in between.
That was way longer than I intended it to be, but uh yeah that's my weird homemade pizzas. I might make one tomorrow so I'll take a picture. I dunno, they're not unfuckinbelievably spectacular but when you're watching what you're eating it's fun knowing you made it. Although all that guilt about the protein bars is making me think that'll be my next homemade experiment.. no idea why I never thought of making them. Maybe because I hate cooking with peanut butter.
I just give up on squats. I just can't do them. I've had troubles with flexibility in my arms since I started, and while sometimes I can get through them, I can just tell I'm not holding the bar right. It's really difficult getting under the bar and positioning a grip, and I just can't get my hands close to my body, my wrists straight, or an actual grip on the bar. My shoulders are sometimes in pain by the time I'm finished. I've tried stretch exercises with elastic ribbons but they've barely helped. I've been at it for three months (including the two months I took off) and there's barely any improvement.
Are front squats a decent alternative?
Are front squats a decent alternative?
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Have you tried doing them on a Smith or Machine Hack Squats for extra support and less need to fuddle with grip?
Lamel
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There are other exercises you can do to train the legs.
Also, try one legged bodyweight squats.
I'm afraid I might end up with the same problem. My right arm is semi-okay, but my left arm hurts all the way down the bicep if I get even close to the proper positioning. I can barely keep my wrists straight doing a high-bar back squat without extreme discomfort.
Use the lat pulldown machine, the pullup assistance machine, and honestly, lose weight. The less you weigh, the easier pullups get.
This post made me laugh:
Weird shit at the gym
That dude balancing on all those dumbells is pretty amazing.
Weird shit at the gym
That dude balancing on all those dumbells is pretty amazing.
Spiritreaver
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I wish I was an olympic weightlifter, elbow dislocations aside.
Chair assisted pull ups is the best way.
Synth_floyd
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Alright I'm back to starting a workout regime. I weight 125 lbs. Super skinny. I've been super skinny my whole life. My max weight ever has been around 136 or so. My goal is to get to 145-150.
I went to the gym yesterday and did:
Squats: 3x5 100lbs
Bench press: 3x5 70lbs
Bicep curls: 3x5 40lbs
Deadlift: 3x5 60lbs
Dips: 2x10 no additional weight
I'm basically following the starting strength regime (regimen?). I'm super sore (as is the case after working out after not working out for a while) so have to wait until next week to continue. The above workout set is my A set and my B set is the other ones in the starting strength regime.
Feels good to get back in the gym. The hardest part is eating. I hardly have any appetite although since I went to the gym my appetite has been boosted.
I went to the gym yesterday and did:
Squats: 3x5 100lbs
Bench press: 3x5 70lbs
Bicep curls: 3x5 40lbs
Deadlift: 3x5 60lbs
Dips: 2x10 no additional weight
I'm basically following the starting strength regime (regimen?). I'm super sore (as is the case after working out after not working out for a while) so have to wait until next week to continue. The above workout set is my A set and my B set is the other ones in the starting strength regime.
Feels good to get back in the gym. The hardest part is eating. I hardly have any appetite although since I went to the gym my appetite has been boosted.
So who told you this dumb shit? Being sore is not a reason to not workout, and should not make you wait until the next week. The routine is meant to be done every other day, and that's what you should be doing, sore or not.
Damnnnnn. I start bulking next Monday and you've inspired me to make my own pizza. Can't wait.
Loosing weight is the easy part. I just want to speed the process up a little bit.
Thanks for the input.
weekend_warrior
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Progress update --
Started at 182, now at 168. Up to 3 pullups. Dropped from a 34 to a 33 in jeans so I bought myself a new pair.
Goal: 162, 50 pullups.
Found something neat on my cheat day: adding a tablespoon of creamy peanut butter to my vanilla whey/skim milk is godly. Seriously freaking good.
One of the most challenging/rewarding parts of this plan is the fast day after the cheat day, because I'll gain a couple lbs on my cheat day, and I do a completely liquid fast the following day, and a day later it's like BAM there's another pound. Feels good man.
Getting harder to lose as I get closer to my goal.
Started at 182, now at 168. Up to 3 pullups. Dropped from a 34 to a 33 in jeans so I bought myself a new pair.
Goal: 162, 50 pullups.
Found something neat on my cheat day: adding a tablespoon of creamy peanut butter to my vanilla whey/skim milk is godly. Seriously freaking good.
One of the most challenging/rewarding parts of this plan is the fast day after the cheat day, because I'll gain a couple lbs on my cheat day, and I do a completely liquid fast the following day, and a day later it's like BAM there's another pound. Feels good man.
Getting harder to lose as I get closer to my goal.
Synth_floyd
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Even if it's slightly painful to walk, extend your arms fully and touch parts of your chest? I've been on and off weightlifting a few times before and I always get super sore after the first workout and then once the initial soreness goes away after a week or so then I can do a normal 3x per week weightlifting routine and almost never get sore again.
Other then (chair) assisted pullups you could try inverted rows.
Sounds normal and something you can sort out with a warm bath or massage. You're absolutely not doing yourself any favors by staying away from your workout for a full week. But as long as you end up going back to the gym after this extended rest period, you'll be okay. I'm guessing you're not trying to become an athlete or anything.
fredrancour
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Soreness is not an injury. assuming you know how to tell the difference between soreness and real pain, it is never a reason to skip a workout.
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It'll be gone after about two weeks, but only if you don't skip out on workouts. If you do, you're just pressing the reset button and wasting time for not much reason.
This is actually a really good idea. I may experiment with that this week. Sunday = cheat day and workouts start again on Tuesday so Monday would be my liquid fast day.
BlueScrote
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Damn, just spent the last hour on the Starting Strength forums.
It's really cool how you can post a vid of your lifts and Rippetoe will critique them, but damn he is fucking mean sometimes.
I think that's part of his appeal. The no-nonsense approach is just what some people need.
Synth_floyd
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Wow I always thought it was best to just wait for the soreness to go away. I guess I'll be headed to the gym again later today.
Man am I scared of deadlifts. Everytime I do them, it looks like I'm using proper form (looking in the mirror), and I feel the stretch in my hamstrings, but I also feel pressure on my lower back. A few minutes after the set my back is fine, and the next day it is ok, but I'm terrified as I go up in weight that I'm going to kill my spine xD.
Yep. Wasn't being rude, I really wanted to know where you heard this was a good idea, because you're just wasting time if you wait to not be sore.
Most of it is just portion control. I used to eat until I was full, now I just eat until I'm content. And if I'm still hungry after a meal I'll have a protein shake or something. Going out to restaurants I used to order the biggest most filling shit on the menu, now I'll be more conscious and order a salad or fish or something. I've had lots of fish lately too.
I cut out soda and fast food for the most part a long time ago, but just in the past month I've had ZERO of either.
And I started doing cardio about 3x a week. (Nothing incredible so far, though. Just 30-45 mins on the elliptical, burning anywhere from 500-800 calories per session.
Khalifa Jayy
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Small update:
Started my weight-loss / get-fit journey on May 13th at 220lbs.
My goal was to hit 185 by end of August.
I hit 185 yesterday! 35 lbs in about two and a half months. I'm proud of myself, GAF.
have been eating pretty well for the most part. I have been going to the gym 3-4x a week. I don't do any cardio at all, just lift. I will be incorporating some HIIT soon to help shred my seemingly stubborn layer of stomach flab, but overall I've been really pleased. My next step is to pack lunch 3x a week as opposed to the rare one time a week I do it now...I just need to start buying ingredients instead of prepackaged meal, heh.
Thanks for always being inspiring and posting tips, articles, and all that stuff guys. You've really helped me along this journey.
Started my weight-loss / get-fit journey on May 13th at 220lbs.
My goal was to hit 185 by end of August.
I hit 185 yesterday! 35 lbs in about two and a half months. I'm proud of myself, GAF.
have been eating pretty well for the most part. I have been going to the gym 3-4x a week. I don't do any cardio at all, just lift. I will be incorporating some HIIT soon to help shred my seemingly stubborn layer of stomach flab, but overall I've been really pleased. My next step is to pack lunch 3x a week as opposed to the rare one time a week I do it now...I just need to start buying ingredients instead of prepackaged meal, heh.
Thanks for always being inspiring and posting tips, articles, and all that stuff guys. You've really helped me along this journey.
It's OK to take a day or two off if it's sore to where it's hurting you to move, a whole week is a bit ridiculous though.
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