Supermanisdead
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lmao, incredible video. she really thought
Flag Desecration at Georgia school. Veteran arrested while trying to stop it.
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Flag desecration has been declared protected speech by the Supreme Court. Her actions were specifically to deprive the protesters the ability to use the flag as part of their protest, in affect she was trying to stop their protest.
You are wrong.
McSquishin
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No, I'm not, you've simply missed my point. The protesters actions are protected only to the extent that the Government cannot suppress their speech. Read, "the Government." Ms. Manhart is not a part of the Government and therefore she cannot violate the First Amendment.
McSquishin
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Take a look back through the past 12 pages and read how many times members of this website state that it's hypocritical to state your support for the First Amendment and your support for Ms. Manharts actions simultaneously.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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If you disapprove of the protest and/or the woman getting arrested for theft, just say so without trying to reinterpret the Constitution.
Nice sneak-in of "nigger" too
Take a look back at the thread and understand the difference between calling someone hypocritical and doing something illegal.
Byakuya769
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Actually it very much does. If a public entity (university) allows a private actor to infringe upon speech, then it can be seen as state action, ESPECIALLY in what is typically seen as a public forum where speech protection is at its highest. So spare us your con law lessons, thanks.
McSquishin
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Yes, she did. This is unquestionably legally wrong. My position is that the law is in conflict with what's right. I say this knowing full well that this is a subjective opinion and one that is unpopular around these parts.
Don't worry. Daycru knows a guy that knows a guy.
Hale-XF11
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Blind patriotism is awful. Nationalism is awful. I'm a human being before I'm an American. In fact, I'm quite a bit ashamed to even admit what country I'm from. The so-called land of the free and home of the brave. What a joke.
Okay...fair position to take, but it doesn't matter because it's still legally wrong?
McSquishin
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As I've made quite clear multiple times I do not question the illegality of her actions.
No, I'm saying people calling her hypocritical is not the same thing as saying she did something illegal. Yes she stole, that IS illegal but to call someone hypocritical does not necessarily mean she did something illegal it just means she's a fool to sit there and try to stop protesters while at the same time claiming to defend the flag which represents a country where free speech is a major component.
McSquishin
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Of course it doesn't matter. I'm just stating my opinion, not proclaiming that I know some greater truth that the rest of you all don't.
McSquishin
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I don't fear words and it made my point. Also, there is no reinterpretation of anything in my post. If you disagree with what I've said please elaborate.
I completely disagree with his post but it is a perfectly valid and reasoned post. I don't know what to make out of yours, though, other than a passive aggressive jibe carrying an implied, baseless accusation of racism. I think it's unnecessary, but a lot of users use that word within the same context. Are they all racist, or just the ones that don't conform to your views?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You elaborated on your initial post later, so I don't have anything to add
In light of your comments on a variety of issues, I don't really feel like engaging you.
Byakuya769
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I already did. You don't understand the body of law you're discussing.
McSquishin
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I wasn't referring to you, and I chose to ignore your earlier post because it had no bearing on my point and was needlessly hostile. The actions of the University are not in question here, whereas the actions of the woman have been for the duration of this entire topic. Your point is unsourced and irrelevant either way.
Byakuya769
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In short... You really have no idea what you're talking about.
Continue conflating "I don't like what you said!" with, "I don't like what you said so I'm going to commit a crime against you!"
What?
http://video.foxnews.com/v/42128300...llenge-stomp-on-american-flag/?#sp=show-clips
Social media challenge: Stomp on American flag
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Social media challenge: Stomp on American flag
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Absolutely hilarious. A 2 min long parody video.
I was about to ask if this story had anything yo do with this challenge video some people have been posting on fb calling for all true american's to hang a flag in their yard or just get out of the country.
Mental Atrophy
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Oh, hey, I know this lady. She was the training instructor for my sister flight in basic training. I will never forget because she got into trouble for being in Playboy like a year later.
"Personally, I think we should put people into gulags for speaking up against our beautiful country. Try it in China, try it in North Korea, see what happens. Respect the privileges 'MURICA gave to you, that all the other underdeveloped countries don't know. You are free to behave like the government wants you to. Show a little gratitude, guys!"
"I'm a small government guy, but I would say that it's time for our legislators to introduce something to make it illegal to disrespect a flag and maybe even treat it like a citizen."
I love people who preach small government but then what new laws whenever their beliefs are hurt. How do they not see the hypocrisy of that viewpoint? "Get the government out of my business except when people are doing things I don't like!"
DontBeThatGuy
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It doesn't get any dumber than that.
ReplacementPelican
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'This is so hard to watch' - It's only a flag, fucking Hell.
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