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[Buggy Loop]

I couldn't even tell you the last time I got a steam survey request on my desktop, it's not reliable. In fact I've usually upgraded multiple components by the time a survey actually comes around.

It’s the best worldwide snapshot we have. What else? Maybe those yearly market share analysis from firms but even they don’t go into detail.

 

[BearNecessity]

It’s the best worldwide snapshot we have. What else? Maybe those yearly market share analysis from firms but even they don’t go into detail.

Its nice to see but its pretty much the 'laptop survey' list. Thats still relevant of course since oem laptops make up the bulk of PC sales but its definitely not 'which graphics cards are people buying for their PC.'

Im glad to see intel integrated graphics finally bumped out the top 10 lol.

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Next time put red gaming on the title. So I know not to even care or click on this post

 

[SolidQ]

AMD is back to focus on mid range because Intel is a real threat to them, they’ll battle in the 5~10% market share

Amd not back to mid, they just need more time to make ultra top. Rdna4 just fill the gap.
Intel don't bother them absolutely with those sales.

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in the 5~10% market share

Seems you are live in fantastic world, if you think still 5-10%, and don't forget RDNA4 much earlier release, than RTX5070 from NV
Intel even lose precent in 2023

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[Buggy Loop]

Amd not back to mid, they just need more time to make ultra top. Rdna4 just fill the gap.
Intel don't bother them absolutely with those sales.

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Seems you are live in fantastic world, if you think still 5-10%, and don't forget RDNA4 much earlier release, than RTX5070 from NV
Intel even lose precent in 2023

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Oh, it’s that AMD hope^TM period again uh?

AMD will catch Nvidia with their pants down, for real this time! /s

 

[StereoVsn]

More peoples are sporting $800+ Nvidia cards than the entirety of AMD presence on that steam survey list. 3090 at some point had a higher % than while RDNA 2 family back in 2021 ish.

AMD is back to focus on mid range because Intel is a real threat to them, they’ll battle in the 5~10% market share

AMD market share actually grew recently which is fairly surprising.

Steam Survey isn’t a bad tool, just need to filter out integrated graphics and older or very low end GPUs.

As far as RDNA4, AMD isn’t competing with Intel at mid range since Intel isn’t there just yet. They are on lower end of the spectrum.

So the 8600, 8700, and 8800 cards (or whatever they will be called) are aimed at mid to upper mid range of the spectrum. Basically 4060Ti to 4070 Ti Super performance range.

If they can truly manage the upper end of that for $500 with improvements in both FSR and RTX, then I suspect they will push some cards.

 

[SolidQ]

So N44 around RTX 3070/7700XT perfomance with 130 die size?

 

[Bry0]

So N44 around RTX 3070/7700XT perfomance with 130 die size?

I doubt it means good pricing so much as it means fat margins.

 

[SantaC]

AMD has given up on radeon

 

[SolidQ]

I doubt it means good pricing so much as it means fat margins.

if you see there show 2x>> compared 7600XT

Ok navi 44
16WGP/32CU/128bit
288 Bandwith?
2515 memory clock or core speed?

AMD has given up on radeon

No

 

[SoloCamo]

AMD has given up on radeon

 

[kiphalfton]

I was looking at it from this angle.

Saw there was a deal for a 7900 XTX om Walmarts website (fulfilled by Newegg) for $850.

Was tempted, but I can only imagine AMD stuff doesn't really retain its value down the line. Would suck if/when I were to buy it, use it for however long, then eventually sell it, and it's worth half as much as a used 4080 Super.

 

[SolidQ]

Ok new WGP is mostly confirmed.
2770 and 515 it's

P.S replying by leaker

 

[MisterXDTV]

Navi 48 replaces Navi 32 = PS5 Pro GPU

Navi 44 replaces Navi 33

 

[SolidQ]

Nice picture

Navi 48 samples are capable of 50 TFLOPS on a ~215W board.

 

[Leonidas]

AMD did that very thing recently. $400 5700XT outperformed the $700 Flagship Radeon VII, at least until you pumped it up to 4k. If AMD can swing a card somewhere between 7900XT to XTX performance with 20gb vram it'd sell quite well, especially if there are some RT improvements. If they don't, well jokes on them I'll have no choice but to go Nvidia to replace my 6900XT.



Considering 7900XT's are already $700 and will drop when the new cards come out I don't see how they could price it like that unless they want to continue to lose marketshare

AMD's biggest issue this generation was that their midrange cards barely improved price/performance vs. heavily discounted RDNA2 GPUs.

GRE is already $550. Just re-launched this year at that price.

If RGT is right and it performs like the GRE, then it would have to sell for $400-$450.
If MLID is right and it beats the 7900 XT, then I expect AMD to charge $550...

 

[SoloCamo]

AMD's biggest issue this generation was that their midrange cards barely improved price/performance vs. heavily discounted RDNA2 GPUs.

Oh absolutely, and this has always haunted AMD. It's exactly why I advised my nephew to pick up a brand new Sapphire Nitro 6950XT for barely over $600 a while back. Nothing from either camp touched it at the time for the price. AMD is like Hyundai as far as resale / old stock value goes, regardless of it not deserving to be.

I'm looking to buy a gpu with AV1 Encoding support faster than my 6900XT. If they can match 7900XT performance or better at a good price I'll probably bite.

 

[Leonidas]

According to MLID, its launching in a few months.

Given the amount of time that's elapsed and the fact that the GPU market needs a shot in the arm, I won't be surprised if it happens. Won't be long to confirm or deny, if true.

If true, I feel bad for anyone who spent $900 on a 7900XTX recently, those GPUs are listed at over $900 today, and this could launch with close to its performance in a few months with a great discount.

Hoping AMD doesn't screw this up somehow. I would be interested in this level of performance from AMD if it comes in at $500, but I wonder if this would get Nvidia to speed up the launch of RTX 50, which I'm also interested in...

 

[Zathalus]

RTX 5000 series is not launching any time soon unfortunately, Blackwell has been delayed to Q2 2025 due to a design flaw. Who knows how far the gaming GPUs are out.

 

[Bojji]

Thanks to PS5 Pro leak people forgot that most of what MLiD "leaked" before was just bullshit. So yeah, I treat anything about AMD GPUs and (to lesser extend) CPUs as overhyped until proven otherwise (and this happened only with RDNA2 and X3D CPUs so far in the last decade).

I remember that AMD was aiming for 3x performance of 6950XT with RDNA3 and would win with 4090 that was "only" 2x 3090ti, lol.

 

[TheRedRiders]

I remember that AMD was aiming for 3x performance of 6950XT with RDNA3 and would win with 4090 that was "only" 2x 3090ti, lol.

I remember RedGamingTech at one point suggested that Lovelace may struggle to compete with RDNA 3 on ray tracing performance lmao

 

[Bry0]

RTX 5000 series is not launching any time soon unfortunately, Blackwell has been delayed to Q2 2025 due to a design flaw. Who knows how far the gaming GPUs are out.

We don’t know that, that “flaw” was only applicable to the b100 and its interconnect. That’s not used in the gaming chips.

My prediction on the “8800xt” is that when mlid says “499-599” you can safely assume 599. When he says “up to 4080 raster” assume it’s closer to 4070 ti super than 4080.

 

[winjer]

MLID as a source.....

 

[SolidQ]

you can safely assume 599

That high chance, because AMD need to empty shelves from 7800XT and 7700XT

MLID as a source.....

at least from very early leaks RDNA3 he was always to say 50-60% compared to RDNA2, the other leakers 2-3x times lol

 

[Sanepar]

RTX 5000 series is not launching any time soon unfortunately, Blackwell has been delayed to Q2 2025 due to a design flaw. Who knows how far the gaming GPUs are out.

5000 series will be a crap. Even if 5080 outperforms 4080 by 50% will come only with 16gb. Nvidia always fuck memory to enforce exchange. Like 3080.

 

[SolidQ]

Even if 5080 outperforms 4080 by 50%

for now 5080 ~ 4090

 

[Dorfdad]

With some many new texhnologies being added to these new cards and features I’m going to wait for real results and drivers before commenting much. Newer cards might handle loads different and basing off existing cards might not be applicable.

 

[Hohenheim]

AMD is doing lots of stuff right when it somes to price/performance at least!
Their 7700 / 7800 cards pretty much outdid everything below the 4080 in the last Gen of Nvidia.

Kinda makes me want to try out their new stuff when the time comes to upgrade, but the temptation for that 5090 will probably be too much, and my wallet will cry..

 

[Hohenheim]

Blackwell has been delayed to Q2 2025 due to a design flaw.

Is this confirmed?
That's quite interesting if true. But better to delay than putting out failing cards of course. And it's not like todays higher-end cards are struggling with many games.