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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT5| One word to rule them all
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Juve - Roma starts in about 90mins.
----------------- Buffon
----- Barzagli - Bonucci - Chiellini
Caceres - Vidal - Pirlo - Marchisio - De Ceglie
------------ Matri - Vucinic
Not feeling it. :/ Why do we insist on playing Caceres in his least favourite role? He's a CB/RB. I can only assume Isla's not nearly ready enough to start in a big match. De Ceglie was terrible in the 1st half against Genoa, but Awesomoah must rest, so we have no other option. WHERE THE FUCK IS BEST PEPE?! It was supposed to be a light injury, two months ago. Matri... Ehhh. We can only pray. I guess I would be distracted too ...
----------------- Buffon
----- Barzagli - Bonucci - Chiellini
Caceres - Vidal - Pirlo - Marchisio - De Ceglie
------------ Matri - Vucinic
Not feeling it. :/ Why do we insist on playing Caceres in his least favourite role? He's a CB/RB. I can only assume Isla's not nearly ready enough to start in a big match. De Ceglie was terrible in the 1st half against Genoa, but Awesomoah must rest, so we have no other option. WHERE THE FUCK IS BEST PEPE?! It was supposed to be a light injury, two months ago. Matri... Ehhh. We can only pray. I guess I would be distracted too ...
Vivalaraza
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Footballing basics.
When a team wins the ball back on the edge of their box and carries it the entire length of the field without facing one single challenge, not even a hint of challenge, you are going to have problems.
It's 110% Ferguson's fault because he refuses to invest in the weakest area of his team, and when opposing team look to expose it, he does nothing about it and offers them no protection by continuing to play 2 in the middle, one a 38 year old and another immobile player.
It's tactically inept and the complacency of Ferguson's players doesn't help.
Truly abysmal.
When a team wins the ball back on the edge of their box and carries it the entire length of the field without facing one single challenge, not even a hint of challenge, you are going to have problems.
It's 110% Ferguson's fault because he refuses to invest in the weakest area of his team, and when opposing team look to expose it, he does nothing about it and offers them no protection by continuing to play 2 in the middle, one a 38 year old and another immobile player.
It's tactically inept and the complacency of Ferguson's players doesn't help.
Truly abysmal.
LabouredSubterfuge
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It would be rad if we had a left wing.
Instead Giggs has decided he's playing in Shinji's position, right in the centre where their ball winning midfielders are. It's genius.
Instead Giggs has decided he's playing in Shinji's position, right in the centre where their ball winning midfielders are. It's genius.
This. Same with Ferdinand, the guy just got humiliated by Bale for the second goal. Evra needs to be told where to go as well.
It won't happen this time, we are piss poor form wise.
We also have Scholes, Giggs and Evra who plays like hes 40 too so legs wise we going to tire while spurs have some turbo charged players on.
Unf. Don't we all just love it <3
His goal was proper Grammaton Cleric.
Gareth Bale
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No one going to mention the booing then?
I have, and I took the shame on my peachy cheeks, but admittedly I didn't expect United to be this bad. They're woeful.
Ferguson pretty much looks like he's done. What he did last year, with the same deficiencies, was kinda magical (in the PL at least), but the fact that CM still is such a black hole on this team... It boggles the mind.
Vivalaraza
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Oh there was booing? I turned over before the whistle even went.
Anyhow, good. Shocking performance and it's not the first this season. About the 4th or 5th one.
are you from south korea?
Ferguson is going to bring in Webb or Hasely on after half time so comeback will be inevitable.
José Mourinho
cocknose
I've not been able to get on GAF all day. Anybody else have problems?
Well chuffed with our result today.
Well chuffed with our result today.
Vivalaraza
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Ferguson has never been a tactical genius but the way he lines his team up right now is bordering on negligent. It is so easy to attack this team. It doesn't take remarkable players or effort, just simple and direct pressure through the spine and you will get chances.
I thought the defending on the first goal was bad, with the LB running past 5/6 players unchallenged.
Remarkably, it got worse.
I don't think so at all, re: kagawa. They have him in the hole, the problem is that the passing around the middle is so bad that he has to come into deep positions to pick it up, and he just loses it right away because he's marked so heavily.
Also, being king in Bundesliga isn't the same as being king in the PL. Some players from other leagues adapt right away (like Cazorla). Some need time. I think Shinji needs time.
and boy do I love it
Nope. I lived there... in fact I lived in Gangnam for a year.
I always thought it was normal to boo a shit 45 minutes.
Something like that yeah I agree. Its definitely not the same Kagawa, and he isn't getting the service he needs to support Persie from the midfield. Sad really, but I can't say I'm not excited right now.
Yup, not much else to say than that. Probably everyone knows Ferguson rarely betters his opponent through tactical masterstrokes, but right now, nothing much seems to work for him. Last weeks result against Liverpool was excellent on the scoreboard, but the effort of the players didn't really reflect any of it.
This United team need to have it's entire spine rebuilt, and I'm not sure Ferguson is around anymore for long enough to see that through to the end.
we need some Bebe
To be honest we're making them look bad, closing down, counters, and very good build up play. Sandro, and Dembele have been destroying the Utd midfield.
oh ok. I know many south koreans who hate the song. thought you were one of them
Haha, no. I actually don't hate the song, it's a throwaway pop diddy. I just can't fathom the amount of people who think the video is funny. The kids who I coach football to do the stupid dance around the pitch and they think that the dude in the elevator pumping his pelvis is hilarious. They're 9 and 10 years old.
It's pretty hard to do a genuinely funny music video, and the funniest ones aren't intentional. But the hype.. it's out of control.
Gareth Bale
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Here we go, 4-4-2
Thank fuck. Fergie made one good change.
0-2
Vivalaraza
Member
What midfield?
Credit to Spurs, they're doing what they have to.
But Everton, Southampton, Fulham, Wigan and Galatasary have all more or less done the same thing.
Spurs have just finished their chances off...not the best finishes either as it happens.
Gareth Bale
Member
Please don't just sit back defend
Tim the Wiz
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Ferguson has crossed the line on doggedness for rotation and experience in this starting lineup. Carrick-Scholes are built for mid-table or continental sides that don't play high-tempo pressing football. Look at how isolated RVP and Kagawa are. They're completely out of the game. I can't believe I'm starting to feel sympathy for Rooney but it just goes to show how static United's midfield has become. Our midweek league cup midfield was definitely more suited for this game.
If it was me, I'd change it up like so:
----Anderson--Carrick--Clevgod
--------------Shinji
------------RVP----Rooney
Rooney dropping deep and the fullbacks overlapping of course. Nani is in dreadful form, Scholes will tire and our midfield badly needs the re-jig. But this is Fergie, so I expect the 442 shape.
If it was me, I'd change it up like so:
----Anderson--Carrick--Clevgod
--------------Shinji
------------RVP----Rooney
Rooney dropping deep and the fullbacks overlapping of course. Nani is in dreadful form, Scholes will tire and our midfield badly needs the re-jig. But this is Fergie, so I expect the 442 shape.
Only undefeated club in England
We were about as shit as Howard Webb in the first half. Worst ref in the league. Once they had that lad sent off we were in absolute control.
Mignolet made two top class saves in the first half, one will probably be save of the season.
Fletch 5 in 4
Good day for my FPL team too OOOOOOOOh I am giddy
We were about as shit as Howard Webb in the first half. Worst ref in the league. Once they had that lad sent off we were in absolute control.
Mignolet made two top class saves in the first half, one will probably be save of the season.
Fletch 5 in 4
Good day for my FPL team too OOOOOOOOh I am giddy
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