Milchmonster
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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT9|
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Sviatoslav
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What a fucking disaster, Zero home wins in the CL. Spaghetti out.
Laugh all you want, but he's been one of Milan's best players this past two months. A true beacon in a sea of mediocrity.
FootballFan
Member
wait, we've seen pics?
Milch pls.
Milch pls.
KidA Seven
Member
Because Fergie didn't want to give him a chance, nor did he pay him enough to stay. He only got 7 appearances and all of them were sub appearances. I think he played against Leeds, Aldershot, Bilbao, Wolves, Fulham, West Brom, and Stoke. I think he got the most minutes in the Leeds game which was a cup game.
People like to say he didn't perform well like Januzaj, and he didn't, but it's dumb to hold it against him as 20 minutes or so of gametime isn't enough time for a midfielder to impress. Midfielders aren't as flashy as attackers and thus stand out less.
His 2011/12 reserve performances weren't even bad either. It's a common misconception. He only played badly for the reserves when he was played out wide to accommodate Gibson and that was only for 2-3 games. He was also in and out of the reserves (like Ravel) as he was involved with the first team, but didn't get to play with the first team. I think the combination of the two made people rewrite his reserve history.
Finally, the money wasn't enough. I think he's on 20k Euros for Juve right? I think Juve payed Raiola (separate from the salary) too. I think he was asking for 35k from United as United make the player pay the agent through the player's salary. So the money was very similar. The talent he had deserved that kind of money and Juve recognized this.
Juve got a steal.
United believe a youngster shouldn't ask for that money as it would set a bad precedent, but it's clearly nonsense. There aren't a lot of players as talented as Pogba so you would rarely give out that kind of money to a player coming from the ranks. I think only Januzaj, Rossi, and Ravel deserved that kind of money and the rest could leave the club if they demanded that kind of money. We have plenty of talented players just outside that Januzaj-Pogba talent range that losing one or two wouldn't really hurt the club. Macheda for instance was never as good as those 4, but got overhyped due to that late winner. Rossi had much better all around skills, and had a much more impressive goal return at youth level. Welbeck, Lingard, Daehli, Cleverley, Pearson, Will Keane, Pereira, etc... are all talented young players, but I don't feel they are dead certs to make the first team. Daehli for instance was talented, but didn't perform as well as Januzaj or Pogba at youth level. Now he's doing well with Molde and could very well turn out a beast, but his youth performances didn't merit a contract as good as Januzaj's so I hope Daehli fans don't rewrite his youth history and paint him as some god on the level of Pogba, Ravel, etc...
I've already gotten over United Pogba. I still like watching Pogba play and will continue to watch Juve Pogba. I hope he does well.
Sviatoslav
Member
Courtois MVP. He tried, but it wasn't enough.
No he hasn't, worryingly.
He deserves a new contract though, despite his age. Rosicky was instrumental in orchestrating our current run and is still a dynamite player, unlike some of the other pensioners still playing.
FootballFan
Member
I am sure he will. He is still getting minutes in big games and Wenger obviously likes him. Probably haggling over money and the length of the contract.
Bids start at 150M.
City went after him earlier this year but Atletico wanted at least £10m even with him only having had like 8 appearances. Probably should have done it.
FootballFan
Member
Europa league fodder, Zenit! Destiny out of your hands.
Strong Arsenal team. Glad Monreal starts.
FootballFan
Member
--Pinto--
-Puyol---Pique--Mascherano--Montoya-
--------------Song---------
----- Xavi---------Iniesta------
-Pedro-----Cesc--------Neymar-
-Puyol---Pique--Mascherano--Montoya-
--------------Song---------
----- Xavi---------Iniesta------
-Pedro-----Cesc--------Neymar-
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
CL WOOHOO!
Lol
Pogba is leaving in Juanuary and he'll be happy playing for an UCL contender.
Why is Pinto playing as Sweeper RB? Ballsy move.
It's nice to want things, I guess. <3
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
Dutch pundits saying Ajax has a chance
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
go eat a turd Youri Mulder
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
go eat a turd Youri Mulder
FootballFan
Member
Dat Tata Hipster. Doesn't even use Messi.
@KidA
You know who's better than Pogba though? Berardi. <3
To fund our January mercato? We don't need THAT much for Cerci, we'll sell Padoin or Peluso.
You know who's better than Pogba though? Berardi. <3
To fund our January mercato? We don't need THAT much for Cerci, we'll sell Padoin or Peluso.
Sviatoslav
Member
At least in the Europa League we can win at trophy. Is that really much worse than being shamed out of CL round of 16 year after year like Arsenal?
Emonuelson playing as a LB again. Fuck I hate this.
Frank the Great
Banned
Haha Birsa. And we all know Muntari would have started if healthy.
Allegri is a troll, it is known.
Frank the Great
Banned
Better than Constantly shit, imo. He sends in good crosses at least.
Basel knocked you out of the Europa last season, no? Winning the Europa is beyond Zenit!
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Would've been a fucking steal lol.
Sviatoslav
Member
At worst we'll be in the Europa League. Spartak couldn't even make the Europa League group stage. Lost to some no-name team from Switzerland who's name I don't even remember. Kenka probably does though.
This is so wrong tho.
Speaking of which, I'd like Wenger to sign a new contract sooner rather than later.
We'll never get drawn into a Spurs situation, but it'd be good for morale in the winter months.
I can't wait to see your reaction when PSG grab Pogba and Berardi under your filthy hands.
Cerci isn't leaving Toro anytime soon unless Ventura leaves.
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
Youri Mulder did you just say that any PL club spends as much as Barca on transfers (200+ million since 2010). Did you really just say that clubs like Norwich spend 40M each year?
FootballFan
Member
Dat epl innit.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Sviatoslav
Member
Only because Zenit can't score a penalty to save their lives. Plus, even as poorly as we've been playing recently nothing can match the disaster that was last season. Zenit 2013/14 Europa League Champs. All that's left to be decided is who we'll beat in the final, Benfica or Juventus.
And Basel beat United, Spurs and Chelsea too.
FootballFan
Member
#thehatedjuan
January is going to be Juanuary
KidA Seven
Member
Come to Arsenal Mata. We could add you to our collection of attacking midfielders.
Imagine a midfield of Ozil, Santi, Ramsey and Mata. I just messed my pants thinking about it.
Maybe, Maybe not but he isn't going to another English team regardless of what Mourinho thinks of him.
Fulfilling Pep's dream. 11 attacking midfielders.
Sviatoslav
Member
Gazprom pls. Internal transfer.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Throughout Cerci's career he has only been great under Ventura. He wasn't good enough for Fiorentina and Roma. I don't think he'll excel if he goes anywhere else.
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