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Football Thread 2017/18 |OT2| Fractured but Ox

Whoever is the next coach has to really notice that it's time for Robben, Ribery(might be forced cuz of the injury today) and Müller to move on. Next season a few contracts are up so im actually looking forward to how we look next season.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
this teams lacks any tactical plan. even with robben and ribery suddenly over delievering we're doing the same mistakes over and over again

this team lacks basic football training. this is what you get after one year of ancelotti.

Robben, Ribery and Muller shouldn't have been on the field anyway. Nor Alaba. No tactical plan can compensate for how out of form they are.

And the fact that their rebellion won means that any future coach will have a pretty hard time putting them on the bench.
 
so ancelotti really was just a scapegoat. the problem was that bayern didnt buy a few top players in the summertime. their succession plans for robben, alonso, lahm and ribery failed and its really showing now. ancelotti was given shit and he did the best he could.

maybe tuchel can turn the team around but during the season it will be hard.

i still think with tuchel they can win the league because the bvb coach seems to be really one dimensional and the rest of the league is a joke
Robben, Ribery and Muller shouldn't have been on the field anyway. Nor Alaba. No tactical plan can compensate for how out of form they are.

And the fact that their rebellion won means that any future coach will have a pretty hard time putting them on the bench.

tuchel doesnt give a shit
 
I'm frightened of Liverpool's counter attacks. It's like, the only thing they're very good at under Klopp.

Lets give him some credit they're good at shit defending and awful goalkeeping too.

Regarding our defeat to City yesterday, we played terrible, Conte got the team all wrong and Morata injury screwed us too. Willy and Cesc were fucking awful
 

TeddyBoy

Member
I'm frightened of Liverpool's counter attacks. It's like, the only thing they're very good at under Klopp.

Hey, we've got teeth as well:

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Jack cw

Member
this teams lacks any tactical plan. even with robben and ribery suddenly over delievering we're doing the same mistakes over and over again

this team lacks basic football training. this is what you get after one year of ancelotti.

These players aren't robots that got a new code and forgot to play football and everything they did since 2012. This "Ancelotti lame duck" talk does not even scratch the surface of what went wrong.

Everyone plays for himself, there is no squad that fights for each other, there are so many mistakes in play and the other players not helping out speaks for a big rift inside the squad.

Our weird policy of buying low class players because we refuse to pay market prices for worldclass not only on play talent but in character cost us years of development in just a couple of months. Rummenigge and Hoeneß buying players instead of the coach is the other problem. We were in talks with Draxler, Sanchez, de Bruyne, Sané and we pulled back because they were to expensive (in retrospective a bargain actually) or our board wanted to avoid drama with Ribery and Robben. Irony now that Ribery's career is probably over in the most tragic way.

We hired a coach after Pep, that always disappointed in his second season at a club outside of Italy and was known for being good at moderating a squad but not for philosophy or tactical systems, or even squad development, so Carlo is not really to blame for the incompetence of our board.

I fear the worst if we not sign Tuchel soon. The squad needs a serious overhaul and a clear positioning if we want to stay competitive with the top five or just want to compete with Dortmund or Leipzig. Our whole situation leads to the latter.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Liverpool look like they don't even need a counter attack to score. They can probably one-two it past our defence lol.
 
These players aren't robots that got a new code and forgot to play football and everything they did since 2012. This "Ancelotti lame duck" talk does not even scratch the surface of what went wrong.

Everyone plays for himself, there is no squad that fights for each other, there are so many mistakes in play and the other players not helping out speaks for a big rift inside the squad.

Our weird policy of buying low class players because we refuse to pay market prices for worldclass not only on play talent but in character cost us years of development in just a couple of months. Rummenigge and Hoeneß buying players instead of the coach is the other problem. We were in talks with Draxler, Sanchez, de Bruyne, Sané and we pulled back because they were to expensive (in retrospective a bargain actually) or our board wanted to avoid drama with Ribery and Robben. Irony now that Ribery's career is probably over in the most tragic way.

We hired a coach after Pep, that always disappointed in his second season at a club outside of Italy and was known for being good at moderating a squad but not for philosophy or tactical systems, or even squad development, so Carlo is not really to blame for the incompetence of our board.

I fear the worst if we not sign Tuchel soon. The squad needs a serious overhaul and a clear position if we want to stay competitive with the top five or just want to compete with Dortmund or Leipzig. Our whole situation leads to the latter.
i personally still think it was a big mistake to sack him

And with him i mean tuchel and ancelotti
 
so ancelotti really was just a scapegoat. the problem was that bayern didnt buy a few top players in the summertime. their succession plans for robben, alonso, lahm and ribery failed and its really showing now. ancelotti was given shit and he did the best he could.

maybe tuchel can turn the team around but during the season it will be hard.

i still think with tuchel they can win the league because the bvb coach seems to be really one dimensional and the rest of the league is a joke

tuchel doesnt give a shit

Every Bayern fan has been bitching about this. Screw the FO and their cheap spending, finish top 3-4 in revenue every year and get outspent by everyone. There is no reason that Sanchez isn't a Bayern player now. Watch them sign some free agent and call it a win next summer

oh wait, Goretzka is already rumored to be that


I'm going to completely lose it if this team doesn't drop their wallet for this summer to sign one top quality player in the level of Griezzman this summer.
 
Every Bayern fan has been bitching about this. Screw the FO and their cheap spending, finish top 3-4 in revenue every year and get outspent by everyone. There is no reason that Sanchez isn't a Bayern player now. Watch them sign some free agent and call it a win next summer

oh wait, Goretzka is already rumored to be that

i am not a bayern fan though.
 
Also, what's this constant implication that Man.City has no fans? Example:

A few reasons:

City officials are shit at getting people into the stadium so the beginning is often a bit sparse.

It is usually raining and the amenities inside the stadium are plentiful, diverse and enough room for most of the fans to stand inside and have a beer until the game starts (can't take beer onto the terraces).

If mancunian way has heavy traffic or roadworks (notorious for it the last few years) it really messes up every other road in the centre so people driving will usually be massively delayed. If it's Alan Turing Way that has traffic or roadworks you may as well have just stayed at home if driving.

Not many people went to the Champions League games in the early days which is what most international fans will have watched, its getting better but the crowd is significantly different than a standard weekend.

Two of the main corporate hospitality seating areas are directly across from the cameras and you have much better seating inside with food, warmth, drinks and can watch the half time TV coverage so they are usually empty unless football is being played.

The bright blue seats really stand out compared to the darker colours people wear (seats were made darker this year).

The emptyhad is catchy, easy to remember and perfect for a hashtag.

It actually has one of the highest attendance in the league and police confirm the official numbers recorded which can't be said of all clubs.
 

Kyoufu

Member
The problem is Joselu is not good, Perez is not good. Our attack is really lacking real class to pose a threat to teams like Liverpool. Sadness.
 

Jack cw

Member
I'm going to completely lose it if this team doesn't drop their wallet for this summer to sign one top quality player in the level of Griezzman this summer.

They have to replace Ribery now.
Everyone knows Coman will never be that player.
Sanchez is free next summer, but still not a solution for years. Robben might quit too, so there are only Gnabry and Coman left. I honestly don't know a top winger that is available for less than 100m.
 

spidye

Member
These players aren't robots that got a new code and forgot to play football and everything they did since 2012. This "Ancelotti lame duck" talk does not even scratch the surface of what went wrong.

Everyone plays for himself, there is no squad that fights for each other, there are so many mistakes in play and the other players not helping out speaks for a big rift inside the squad.

Our weird policy of buying low class players because we refuse to pay market prices for worldclass not only on play talent but in character cost us years of development in just a couple of months. Rummenigge and Hoeneß buying players instead of the coach is the other problem. We were in talks with Draxler, Sanchez, de Bruyne, Sané and we pulled back because they were to expensive (in retrospective a bargain actually) or our board wanted to avoid drama with Ribery and Robben. Irony now that Ribery's career is probably over in the most tragic way.

We hired a coach after Pep, that always disappointed in his second season at a club outside of Italy and was known for being good at moderating a squad but not for philosophy or tactical systems, or even squad development, so Carlo is not really to blame for the incompetence of our board.

I fear the worst if we not sign Tuchel soon. The squad needs a serious overhaul and a clear positioning if we want to stay competitive with the top five or just want to compete with Dortmund or Leipzig. Our whole situation leads to the latter.

don't get me wrong. I agree with everything you say. I'm sounding like a broken record player but Rummenigge is destroying this club form within like cancer.
every decision he made since hoeneß' arrest lead to our misery right now. ancelotti was the worst possible coach for the phase we are right now. I said this many times before.
 
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