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FootballGAF 2021/2022 |OT| The battle to survive, rebuilding after disaster.
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TaylorSwiftFan
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Conte was available after the Liverpool loss. Ole should have been sacked that night.
DKehoe
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Conte could have brought short term success but would have also probably been a mess long term. Tactically he’s miles ahead of Solskjaer, obviously, but he only lasts a couple of years in every job he’s in. United should be looking for someone that’s more of a long term solution.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Newcastle gets funnier by the day.
Conte, Martinez, Emery…
Now they want the bloke sacked by Bournemouth.
Couple of weeks it’ll be Big Sam again just until end of season.
Conte, Martinez, Emery…
Now they want the bloke sacked by Bournemouth.
Couple of weeks it’ll be Big Sam again just until end of season.
Dark Rider
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Thank you for posting your thoughts
For me I think for the long term the most important thing that need to be done is that the club make sure the players perform to the best of their ability. They usually intentionally do not in order to get managers sacked.
I think most of it is just journalists farming clicks for money.
Also:
[Unai Emery] confirms that he's staying in Villarreal
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Ludicrous Display
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Starting to think there is actually a difference between the Saudi investment fund and the Saudi government. Jamal Khashoggi was chopped to bits efficiently within a day or two, they've been pissing about trying to find a new manager for weeks now.
Dark Rider
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[OptaJose]- 1000 - Real Madrid have become the first team in European Cup/Champions League history to reach 1000 goals scored in the competition (including qualifiers). King.
Looking forward to the 2000th goal
Looking forward to the 2000th goal
DKehoe
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Howe might not be a bad choice really. Yeh Bournemouth got relegated with him, but he took Bournemouth from League 2 to the Premier League, which is pretty impressive. He could do well in a position where he's backed to buy players and not sell off the ones he has. If I was Newcastle I'd also be looking at Graham Potter, he's doing really well with Brighton.
TaylorSwiftFan
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More long term like Ole? Or Moyes? Long term is just an excuse to make failure acceptable. I want short term success - like Tuchel at Chelsea. Champions League winner in half a season.
TaylorSwiftFan
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Their fans thought they’d be fighting for a top 4 finish next season. Maybe - top 4 in League One.
Dark Rider
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[Gerard Romero] Barça offers Koeman 7.5M in two payments, Koeman asks for 12M + bonus
Whatever the contract says he is owned will be payed, Koeman will not give up any of it (not after what he gave up and payed to go there).
Whatever the contract says he is owned will be payed, Koeman will not give up any of it (not after what he gave up and payed to go there).
Dark Rider
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[EL Chiringuito] Messi spotted in Madrid going to a Regenerative therapy clinic for his Bone bruise suffered during the last International break.
Dark Rider
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Gambling links from children's pages on club websites to be investigated
Gambling links from children's pages on club websites to be investigated
The Gambling Commission says it will investigate how seven Premier League and Championship clubs had direct links to betting sites from children's pages of their websites.
www.bbc.co.uk
Dark Rider
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Antonio Conte: “I am glad we won while suffering, I think this team needs to suffer a little to achieve victory, to understand you can win while suffering."
DKehoe
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Grabbing whatever high profile manager is available in the moment, regardless of whether or not their style of play is a continuation of what has been built with the current squad, is short-sighted and going back to swinging from Moyes to Van Gaal to Mourinho. The club should be aiming for a consistent through-line to build things back up and that’s something they seem to finally be looking to do with the restructure with Murtough, Fletcher etc. Chelsea sacking Lampard and Tuchel then winning the Champions League that season is obviously nice but it’s not really something you should reliably look to for success.
Conte only lasts a couple years in any job because he can’t stop himself from picking fights with people at whatever club he is at. No reason to think he’d be any different at United.
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Graham Potter probably keeping low on the radar waiting to see what happens at villa as he’s a villa fan / supporter has been since he was a lad.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Mind you so is Dean Smith but villa should have been relegated last season only a dodgy VAR decision kept them up and suppose it’s difficult not winning as many free kicks now jack isn’t there to keep rolling round the floor conning the refs.
EDIT: sorry my point being a supporter of the club and being it’s manager doesn’t make it any easier.
EDIT: sorry my point being a supporter of the club and being it’s manager doesn’t make it any easier.
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TaylorSwiftFan
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Tuchel also is likely to win Chelsea the EPL this year. I’d take 2 years of short term success over another re-build that will maybe win us an FA Cup at the end.
And that new structure that you’re talking about with Murtough and Fletcher - it’s shit. They’re still making shit decisions. Pogba wasn’t sold last transfer window and now he’ll walk for free. They bought Sancho for £70M+ for him to warm the bench. They’re didn’t strengthen the midfield. It’s absolutely rubbish decisions one after the other.
DKehoe
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I mean, sure, clearly if the new manager wins a Champions League and potentially a league title in the space of two seasons then that would be great. But that's not exactly guaranteed. And swinging from one style to another depending on which manager you can grab makes it less likely.
There's not too much United can do about Pogba waiting for his contract to run out. Either he signs a nice new big one at United or leaves on a free to someone else and gets a big signing bonus. Win/win for him either way. Also, a lot of clubs didn't have money to spend last summer and even if they did knew they could wait a year and get him on a free.
I agree about Sancho. It's been frustrating to see him not used more since he's clearly a talented player and plays in a position United have been deficient in for a long time. But the sudden move for Ronaldo seems to have changed everything about the planning for the team and left Sancho on the outside. And yeh the midfield has been neglected for so long. It's a huge problem and hopefully one that gets resolved soon.
Dark Rider
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[José Luis Sánchez] - Vinicius Jr has been called up for Brazil to replace the injured Roberto Firmino
I don't like this
I don't like this
Dark Rider
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[Official] Xavi Hernández is the new FC Barcelona coach
www.fcbarcelona.com
Looking forward to him talking about grass and claiming being treated unfairly by the refs every week.
Xavi Hernández is the new FC Barcelona coach
FC Barcelona have reached an agreement with Xavi for him to become first team coach for the rest of the current season and two more seasons
www.fcbarcelona.com
Looking forward to him talking about grass and claiming being treated unfairly by the refs every week.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'm not even a Utd fan and I found that painful to watch.
Ollie needs to go. There is no drive or passion in that Utd team, the defense is awful, and Ollie clearly doesn't have a clue how to use the attacking talent at his disposal.
If he's not sacked by Monday then I'll eat my balls.
Ollie needs to go. There is no drive or passion in that Utd team, the defense is awful, and Ollie clearly doesn't have a clue how to use the attacking talent at his disposal.
If he's not sacked by Monday then I'll eat my balls.
Mister Apoc
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mekes
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On the United manager.
Man, I've never been happy with any choice post Ferguson. Van Gaal has been the most interesting choice so far, but I still didn't want him. I based that just off of the unrest and noises from Bayern whilst he was there. Pretty much the same thing ended up happening at United.
I just want a tactical coach who plays a nice brand of football. I feel like we've had a reactive coach in Moyes. Tactical with LVG and Mourinho. And reactive again with Solskjaer.
I would be all for Ten Hag (sp?), Zidane possibly. Ancelotti I thought we should have gone for years back. Just no more defensive tacticians like LVG or Mou.
Most importantly the coaches need to get lost along with Ole. No favours for the boys. We need a trophy and soon, don't care which. For a club that goes on about long term this, long term that. Our best players are almost retired. Beyond Greenwood, no youngsters are getting a chance.
There is so much wrong at United and it starts with the board. The CEO, DoF, coaches, Manager, scouts. It all just feels a bit off at the moment. It did start seeming better after Ole had been here 6-12 months. But not anymore.
Man, I've never been happy with any choice post Ferguson. Van Gaal has been the most interesting choice so far, but I still didn't want him. I based that just off of the unrest and noises from Bayern whilst he was there. Pretty much the same thing ended up happening at United.
I just want a tactical coach who plays a nice brand of football. I feel like we've had a reactive coach in Moyes. Tactical with LVG and Mourinho. And reactive again with Solskjaer.
I would be all for Ten Hag (sp?), Zidane possibly. Ancelotti I thought we should have gone for years back. Just no more defensive tacticians like LVG or Mou.
Most importantly the coaches need to get lost along with Ole. No favours for the boys. We need a trophy and soon, don't care which. For a club that goes on about long term this, long term that. Our best players are almost retired. Beyond Greenwood, no youngsters are getting a chance.
There is so much wrong at United and it starts with the board. The CEO, DoF, coaches, Manager, scouts. It all just feels a bit off at the moment. It did start seeming better after Ole had been here 6-12 months. But not anymore.
TaylorSwiftFan
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I would say so. It is between prime Messi and prime Ronaldo for the best of all time.
Dark Rider
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The Sports Law is underway in Spain, which will abolish the requirement to cover 15 percent of the budget for fan-owned clubs. (Athletic, Madrid, Barca, Osasuna). If another amendment is successful it would exempt fan-owned from the obligation to become a public limited company.
as.com
El futuro presidente del Athletic no tendrá que presentar avales
En marcha la Ley del Deporte que suprimirá la exigencia de cubrir el 15 por ciento del presupuesto. Un cambio que se promueve a siete meses de las elecciones en Ibaigane.
as.com
Dark Rider
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[ESPN UK] Man United had more shots on target against their own keeper than against Man City
The players doing all they could to sack their manager.
The players doing all they could to sack their manager.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Norwich sack manager, villa sack manager but Ole’s at the wheel
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Norwich sack manager, villa sack manager but Ole’s at the wheel
Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. Ollie is out of his depth.
The defending on Saturday was some of the worst defending I've seen from a Man Utd team. Woefully bad and almost comical. It's a miracle that it wasn't 0-5 or more.
Why does he keep playing Fred and McTominay together? The system isn't working, yet he keeps on going back to it.
What has he done with Sancho? That man was fire at BD, but is a shadow of himself at Man Utd. To be fair, this could be an issue with Sancho and finding it hard to adapt, but as a manager you need to look at ways to fix that problem and get the best out of your players.
I'm not a Man Utd fan, but even I want Ollie to go. Man Utd have some amazing attacking talent on their books and should be up there with City, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Let’s just hope they don’t spend £80 million on Jude in January.
Dark Rider
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90+6 goals served us well this round
Dark Rider
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[Fabrizio Romano] Xavi: “Extending Ousmane Dembélé’s contract is one of our priorities, yes! He could be the best player in the world in his position”. “Ousmane has to work a lot, he has the potential to make the different at Barça as world top player. But he needs to be consistent”
Dark Rider
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[Newcastle United] We are delighted to confirm the appointment of Eddie Howe as the club’s new head coach.
Dark Rider
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Cristiano Ronaldo: "I said what I felt in that moment, that I'm here to win things, Manchester United is a sign of winning things and I'm not here for holidays."
www.marca.com
Cristiano Ronaldo could leave if Manchester United don't reach Champions League
Cristiano Ronaldo made a fairytale return to Manchester United in the summer, 12 years after leaving the club, but the long-awaited reunion may not last for as long as most Red Dev
www.marca.com
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
ps sorry we couldn’t get Unai Emery.
T8SC
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Cristiano Ronaldo: "I said what I felt in that moment, that I'm here to win things, Manchester United is a sign of winning things and I'm not here for holidays."
Cristiano Ronaldo could leave if Manchester United don't reach Champions League
Cristiano Ronaldo made a fairytale return to Manchester United in the summer, 12 years after leaving the club, but the long-awaited reunion may not last for as long as most Red Dev
He's already won things during his second spell at Man United though.
He's won the hearts of the fans.
SSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Dark Rider
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Italian media company boycotts Jose Mourinho – Was ‘unpleasant and inappropriate’ with journalist.
sportwitness.co.uk
Media company boycotts Jose Mourinho - Manager was 'unpleasant and inappropriate' with journalist - Sport Witness
When Jose Mourinho was announced as the new AS Roma manager, there were parties in Italy. The former Manchester United and Tottenham man still held some reputation despite being sacked from both clubs, with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Antonio Conte now at the helm of each of those sides...
sportwitness.co.uk
Dark Rider
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Football Italia - Di Marzio - Vlahovic agent won’t even pick up the phone to Arsenal
Dark Rider
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If proven in court then the question will be what kind of punishment should be issued for this?
prison time is a given but what sporting punishment should be issued?
Dark Rider
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[Football españa] Xavi has canceled the scheduled interview Piqué planned to do with Spanish TV show ‘El Hormiguero’ next week in Madrid.
www.football-espana.net
Pique cancels TV interview on the back of Xavi's new rules
Gerard Pique already looks as though he might have to make the most sacrifices on the back of Xavi Hernandez's official arrival on Monday.
www.football-espana.net
Dark Rider
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Lewandowski: "It is very difficult to play on high intensity every three days. We are humans, not machines. I think new generations will struggle a lot because of this, we will not see the same consistency from players, because there will be more injuries and retaining focus will be a big challenge"
Dark Rider
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Juventus captain Giorgio Chiellini supports his president Agnelli: "We need to reform the calendars and create new competitions. The fans also want more European matches. In Serie A we should go back to 18 teams or maybe 16. I would also abolish VAR’’
www.gazzetta.it
Chiellini: "Sì alla Superlega, la Serie A ha troppe squadre. Abolirei il Var"
Il difensore della Juve nel solco di Agnelli: "Bisogna riformare i calendari e creare nuove competizioni. Anche i tifosi vogliono più gare europee. In Serie A bisognerebbe tornare a 18 squadre o forse a 16"
www.gazzetta.it
Nitty_Grimes
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Steven Gerrard officially v*lla manager.
TaylorSwiftFan
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The guy was injured for 4.5 months, comes back for 3 days and is injured again. Last year there was not as much football and he was injured for 24 days. The year before that he was injured for 10 months for 4 different injuries. The year before that for close to 4 months. No wonder Barca is in the shit.
Dark Rider
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[Premier League] All 20 PL clubs have discussed the post-2024 International Match Calendar reform process and are unanimously opposed to FIFA’s proposal for biennial men’s World Cups, along with any plans involving significantly extended international windows.
Expected to happen by all the major leagues.
Expected to happen by all the major leagues.