I mean, for me, that's a big initial investment. The PC I'd want to build just for 1080 gaming would cost me around 700-800, and that's only if I had it hooked up to my TV and didn't get a new monitor/desk, etc. $800-1000 is a big consideration, especially when you can compare it to getting a PS4 Pro and Switch for less.
For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?
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I mean, for me, that's a big initial investment. The PC I'd want to build just for 1080 gaming would cost me around 700-800, and that's only if I had it hooked up to my TV and didn't get a new monitor/desk, etc. $800-1000 is a big consideration, especially when you can compare it to getting a PS4 Pro and Switch for less.
Mihos
Gold Member
At least they can be fixed on PC, on the consoles, you are just SOL
I feel that they are the hardcore of PC gamers in this site. I rarely open those threads myself or never post atleast. Someone like me just wants to play. If there is something really wrong, then I tinker myself first with my very low knowledge. If that doesn't help, then I might google for a solution. But I can settle for less than optimal. In recent years there hasn't been a PC release for me that I couldn't play because of it's problems. And I played Mafia 3, The Division and Xcom 2 at launch.
Well personally I don't respond when someone posts legitimate reasons for preferring consoles, because there are and I'm fine with that. I mainly respond to false claims. Or if I see things differently.
No Man's Sky was a reasonably-budgeted game (I'm guessing, going by team size and development time) that was multiplatform from the start. I think something like that getting a big marketing push is a very different case from something most likely lower-budget and with a more PC-focused design like Factorio. Maybe I'm unaware of a lot of PC games similar to No Man's Sky, though, as it's not a style of game I'm interested in at all.
Jakartalado
Member
Here in Brazil it's the price.
With the price of the GPU alone (gtx 1070), you can buy a PS4 Pro.
Or a PS4 or Xbox One (gtx 1060)
And to be quite honest, the only thing that makes me happy about PC it's the highest setting.
Which makes the choice of a 1060 gtx stupid.
A 1070 would make me happy, but we have also keyboards, mouse, a 144hz screen (I played once, damn that feels so nice). But all of it, it's just to expensive.
But.... It's good. Maybe someday when I graduate I could afford this dream.
With the price of the GPU alone (gtx 1070), you can buy a PS4 Pro.
Or a PS4 or Xbox One (gtx 1060)
And to be quite honest, the only thing that makes me happy about PC it's the highest setting.
Which makes the choice of a 1060 gtx stupid.
A 1070 would make me happy, but we have also keyboards, mouse, a 144hz screen (I played once, damn that feels so nice). But all of it, it's just to expensive.
But.... It's good. Maybe someday when I graduate I could afford this dream.
RavageDark
Member
I don't mean this to be rude or anything. I just simply don't feel like getting into PC Gaming.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Software problems can be fixed on consoles. They get patches just like PC games do.
I have a PC that is capable of gaming comparably to a PS4 (750ti), and yet spend probably fifty times as much time gaming on a console (and I own all three) as I do my PC.
I simply prefer the experience. I prefer the convenience of it, and the separation of having a machine that is purely built for entertainment. I massively prefer the gaming oriented OS experience of the PS4 to the all-over-the-shop experience presented by the PC with Steam, Origin, the Windows Store, whatever Ubisoft'sthing is called, and then having to deal with things like Discord along side it.
I also prefer playing with a controller to playing with a keyboard and mouse, and while you could elect to play with a pad on the PC, its not an option in any competitive game. While the controller isn't necessarily most effective for shooters, and the like, I prefer the way controller based shooters feel, and play.
I have a PC to play strategy games, but that's about it. I can't imagine that changing any time soon.
I simply prefer the experience. I prefer the convenience of it, and the separation of having a machine that is purely built for entertainment. I massively prefer the gaming oriented OS experience of the PS4 to the all-over-the-shop experience presented by the PC with Steam, Origin, the Windows Store, whatever Ubisoft'sthing is called, and then having to deal with things like Discord along side it.
I also prefer playing with a controller to playing with a keyboard and mouse, and while you could elect to play with a pad on the PC, its not an option in any competitive game. While the controller isn't necessarily most effective for shooters, and the like, I prefer the way controller based shooters feel, and play.
I have a PC to play strategy games, but that's about it. I can't imagine that changing any time soon.
and like
what are PS4 game performance issues that crop up after using the system's suspend feature analogous to if not alt-tab, lol
EventHorizon
Member
As I have mentioned before, the PS4 is getting Horizon next month and that game is gorgeous. All you are doing is saying that at some time in the future the PS4 will be outdated. That's true of all electronics. It's says nothing about its current capabilities. The Pro was made for those gamers that want a high end model and are willing to pay for it. As sales have shown, the vast majority of gamers still prefer the base PS4.
The PS4 does not have to be cutting edge hardware. That is what all the PC enthusiast consistently miss. Comparing PC and PS4 2016 games on Metacritic, PS4 had 4 games rated 90 or better while PC had 5. The lack of being cutting edge didn't matter much when it comes to top rated games. What is even more telling is that the PS4 actually leads this list in graphically demanding game that push the hardware 3-2. If well received good looking games is what you wanted, the PS4 not the PC is where you wanted to be in 2016.
All these numbers jump around year to year so results will vary, but the overall point should be clear that being cutting edge does little for the PC in terms of either top rated games or top rated graphically demanding games.
Metacritic 2016 90+ games
*Graphically demanding game
PS4
- Uncharted 4: A Thief's End*
- The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine*
- Overwatch*
- INSIDE
- The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine*
- Overwatch*
- Out of the Park Baseball 17
- Stephen's Sausage Roll
- Kentucky Route Zero - Act IV
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Keyboard? Mouse? Computer in another room?
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Deleted member 752119
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Exactly. Crashing aside most of the issues in those threads are graphical things the average Joe like myself is never going to notice. It's mostly hardcore types who have a hobby of specs and scrutinizing performance and graphics.
I let games auto detect settings if possible and just try ultra/high if not and that's the extent of it for me. Forza Horizon 3 is the only game that's given me issues to date, and it's just a shoddy port that still runs mostly fine for me. I'd rather get the 55-60FPS most of the time with drops/stutters into the 40s rarely and limited to some areas than play in console at 30FPS anyway.
LordRaptor
Member
I don't think most people would consider that rude.
I think most people would rather people just say that instead of inventing fan-fiction about how they used to be a huge Pc gamer and buying a $10,000 super computer to play super-high-res MineSweeper until the day they doubleclicked on a meet fuckbuddies in your area email, only to find the NSA database secretly downloaded to their machine and having to jump off a waterfall to escape Tommy Lee Jones, until they bought a Playstation and Kaz Hirai personally vouched for them and got them awarded the purple heart or whatever
>PC has no exclusives worth playing
>Lists Metacritic showing only 1 PS4 exclusive versus PCs 3
breveglieri
Banned
The Alienware X51?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009JGTVM4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The one that costs 3x or 4x the price of a PS4 Pro?
RavageDark
Member
LOL.
One (or maybe few more) great looking console exclusives doesn't make up for the great looking 3rd party games. And graphics isn't the reason why I prefer PC anyway. There are plenty of people who do ofcourse.
There's cheaper ones too. Not sure if under 600 bucks though. But you can also get custom built for the box of your own choosing. Low end or high end, the choice is yours.
Lister
Banned
Awesome reply.
Mihos
Gold Member
Yep, that's the one.... except I went for the i7
CitizenCope
Member
17,000 views!? What is it with these threads and what makes some people here uncomfortable that everyone isn't going PC or console?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
What is this, 2010? PCs can be controlled in a variety of ways, including using controllers. If you have an Xbox 360 / One controller, a Dualshock 4 controller, or a Steam controller (as well as a plethora of generics), hitting the "guide" button while Steam is loaded will bring up the big picture mode that can be controlled 100% using said controller.
As for your TV being in another room, they now have the Steam Link that can stream the game to your television, even wirelessly. There are even some TVs that have this capability built in, Nvidia has a big push for this with their cards, and the "Steam Link functionality" is coming soon to Android TV devices as well such as the Nvidia Shield (which can also already stream games from your PC wirelessly if you have an Nvidia card).
i expected people would reassure me that PC gaming isn't really a crazy science experiment.. to some extent, i know you're right. i use steam on my laptop to play easy to run, non-taxing stuff like darkest dungeon and invisible inc. and it works very smoothly.
but for as much as i want to believe you all, believe that it's all that easy, i've .so many discussions to the contrary. threads that read like some crazy statistical analysis class. people being like "oh my version of _____ doesn't run well." then " well maybe you should download _______, adjust _______ and try ________. if not then turn down your ____ and run it in _______ mode". i've heard too much science-experiment talk surrounding PC games, from PC gamers, to believe that it's really as simple as you all make it out to be.. when i hear these discussions on podcasts or read them in threads my head spins. the concept of having to do that much (or any) tinkering to get a game to run in its optimal state seems like a headache to me.
at the end of the day i'm fine where i'm at. between my PS4 (where i do the majority of my gaming) and my laptop (where i will play cheap indies here and there) i've got all i need, i guess. no need to invest money in a big thing that i find to be intimidating and at least potentially more complicated than what i've already got.
but for as much as i want to believe you all, believe that it's all that easy, i've .so many discussions to the contrary. threads that read like some crazy statistical analysis class. people being like "oh my version of _____ doesn't run well." then " well maybe you should download _______, adjust _______ and try ________. if not then turn down your ____ and run it in _______ mode". i've heard too much science-experiment talk surrounding PC games, from PC gamers, to believe that it's really as simple as you all make it out to be.. when i hear these discussions on podcasts or read them in threads my head spins. the concept of having to do that much (or any) tinkering to get a game to run in its optimal state seems like a headache to me.
at the end of the day i'm fine where i'm at. between my PS4 (where i do the majority of my gaming) and my laptop (where i will play cheap indies here and there) i've got all i need, i guess. no need to invest money in a big thing that i find to be intimidating and at least potentially more complicated than what i've already got.
Flintty
Member
I spent the best part of 8 years stuck at my desk playing Wow. I used to have a physical job with lots of standing and patrolling but I now have a desk job.
Guess what? I'm tired of desks. I like my simple console on my simple couch. I still dabble with PC (5%ish) but 1) CBA to upgrade PC anymore and 2) Couchy couch.
I suppose also I prefer FPS games using an Xbox pad.
I know all of the above is possible on a PC but I don't want to.
Guess what? I'm tired of desks. I like my simple console on my simple couch. I still dabble with PC (5%ish) but 1) CBA to upgrade PC anymore and 2) Couchy couch.
I suppose also I prefer FPS games using an Xbox pad.
I know all of the above is possible on a PC but I don't want to.
Multiple reasons:
- Large investment needed to build a good gaming pc from scratch (if you've not kept up, like me);
- No room to have a dedicated gaming PC set-up in our current flat (or our last one for that matter) - I wonder how others who don't live in houses and/or the US solve that;
- Hassle with Windows and other software updates potentially everytime you want to play;
- Relative high energy use of gaming PC's, especially if you leave them on all the time (yes, I actually care about that);
- Always having to deal with other software and OS before being able to jump into the game (more so than with a console);
- Higher potential for crashes, bugs, bad ports, etc.;
- A higher need to fiddle with settings;
- Mods generally don't offer me a strong incentive to counter the above either, like they do for many people.
I guess that's it. I still have nightmares about trying to get games to run during the 486 and early Pentium days and while things have undoubtedly improved on all fronts, I still hear enough talk about general PC gaming hassles like bad ports and settings fiddling - even from self proclaimed PC enthusiasts like the Giant Bomb crew for instance - that I am hesitant to bother. The relative smaller amount of space and the easier usability of consoles weigh more heavily for me than state of the art graphics I guess.
All that said, I do quite often miss the days when PC games were almost in a category of their own, complete with genres you rarely saw on consoles like sims, fps games, adventure games, srpg's, etc. Back then, I happily switched back and forth between the world of PC gaming and the more arcady world of consoles whenever the mood took me. Now almost every game comes out everywhere so in a sense much of that is lost.
- Large investment needed to build a good gaming pc from scratch (if you've not kept up, like me);
- No room to have a dedicated gaming PC set-up in our current flat (or our last one for that matter) - I wonder how others who don't live in houses and/or the US solve that;
- Hassle with Windows and other software updates potentially everytime you want to play;
- Relative high energy use of gaming PC's, especially if you leave them on all the time (yes, I actually care about that);
- Always having to deal with other software and OS before being able to jump into the game (more so than with a console);
- Higher potential for crashes, bugs, bad ports, etc.;
- A higher need to fiddle with settings;
- Mods generally don't offer me a strong incentive to counter the above either, like they do for many people.
I guess that's it. I still have nightmares about trying to get games to run during the 486 and early Pentium days and while things have undoubtedly improved on all fronts, I still hear enough talk about general PC gaming hassles like bad ports and settings fiddling - even from self proclaimed PC enthusiasts like the Giant Bomb crew for instance - that I am hesitant to bother. The relative smaller amount of space and the easier usability of consoles weigh more heavily for me than state of the art graphics I guess.
All that said, I do quite often miss the days when PC games were almost in a category of their own, complete with genres you rarely saw on consoles like sims, fps games, adventure games, srpg's, etc. Back then, I happily switched back and forth between the world of PC gaming and the more arcady world of consoles whenever the mood took me. Now almost every game comes out everywhere so in a sense much of that is lost.
breveglieri
Banned
Must be nice!
GeordieMark
Member
Horizon will be 30fps at best on a standard PS4. Until it releases, you can't really comment on how it performs. I don't really accept the arguement you are making in the rest of your post. Your list contradicts you.
A PC is something i use for things other than gaming in addition to sometimes gaming, constantly investing in improving the gaming part (even if the only big leap is the first initial invest) feels like spending too much on just a fraction of what i use the pc for without guarantee that i will be able to run everything, so the cost benefit is not on the range i am willing to pay.
Consoles on the other hand are dedicated gaming machines with no other function, guaranteed to run all games for it and that don't require upgrades (until when and if you decide to jump to the next gen), so the cost is more inviting.
So, TL;DR: to me a PC is a versatile tool, not a dedicating gaming machine, so i don't feel compelled into turning it into a gaming machine.
Consoles on the other hand are dedicated gaming machines with no other function, guaranteed to run all games for it and that don't require upgrades (until when and if you decide to jump to the next gen), so the cost is more inviting.
So, TL;DR: to me a PC is a versatile tool, not a dedicating gaming machine, so i don't feel compelled into turning it into a gaming machine.
Platform wars...
😐 Who knows. I have a PC. Nothing great but for some reason cannot play elite dangerous anymore... Strange
Also used to be pro PC and consoles would make me laugh. I grew up and grew tired of issues I ran into.
So been on both sides.
All the PC community tells me is I have shit PC and can't run solitaire with my specs. They even hate their own.
Consoles have people who hate PCs for stupid reasons. While I have run into some issues I have had fairly better luck in having games run without issues.
breveglieri
Banned
And such great games, games like Out of the Park Baseball 17 or Stephen's Sausage Roll,
games people will be talking for years to come and will inspire other games for decades, unlike that crappy indie title that is Uncharted 4
Uncharted what, amirite?
I get it, I didn't dare to assemble my own PC. I think I could have, it's not rocket science. But I also was intimidated by the thought of breaking something. Also it does take some work if you aren't experienced. My friend who is, spent well over an hour assembling my PC. Some people can do it in 15 minutes though. I'm very casual when it comes to PC tech, but it's still my main platform and I love it for the versatility. But I guess I'm also lucky to have friends with more knowledge than I have. And I have used computers since I was a little kid, so ofcourse I've picked up something along the way. But PC:s are easier than ever to use nowadays. No need to tinker with the graphic options even if you don't want to. And if the game just wont work, refund it.
But you chose a non standard resolution and aspect ratio to game at, although it is gaining traction. You eventually got your game to work with your non standard choice.
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
I think "PC gamers once again gather to showcase their bizarre inability to accept people like different things" would be more appropriate.
How many "come to PC / why haven't you already" threads have we seen? Yet we never see console equivalent being posted.
Some PC gamers seem nearly threatened their platform of choice is met with indifference by console only types.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Did he once say Uncharted was shit? Don't worry your Sony exclusives will still be beloved.
I think it's more the misinformation being constantly spread in threads like this that piss people off
breveglieri
Banned
For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?
Port begging
I enjoyed playing Red Dead Redemption and I look forward to the sequel, thank you very much
Port begging
I enjoyed playing Red Dead Redemption and I look forward to the sequel, thank you very much
two reasons
1. I work alot on my pc, its becomes very difficult for me to seperate it, sounds silly but you could call it "feeling"
2. All my games (if its possibel) are pysical, i detest digital distrubition really, so steam/orgins and so on, other reason why i gonna buy a switch day one cause cartridges are the best
1. I work alot on my pc, its becomes very difficult for me to seperate it, sounds silly but you could call it "feeling"
2. All my games (if its possibel) are pysical, i detest digital distrubition really, so steam/orgins and so on, other reason why i gonna buy a switch day one cause cartridges are the best
theangrypirate
Member
This is elitist bullshit. Lots of people just don't want to use a PC for their gaming fix. I'm a software engineer who spends 8 - 10 hours a day on a PC. When I go home the last thing I want to do is fire up my PC for some gaming. It's extremely convenient and fun to just sit down turn on your PS4 and play your game. When I log on to my PC I'm reminded that I have work to do and I can get distracted checking emails and other bullshit. My console is there just for games.
The other turn off of PC gaming is the elitist community. There seems to be a consensus amongst yourselves that console peasants choose consoles simply because PC's are too complicated. Lots of us just don't care about 60fps or the occasional dropped frame to spend double the cost of a console and hours tinkering.
Gaming is a great hobby for me and I really enjoy it but I have other hobbies as well. I like to ski, hike, run, spearfish, hang out with my girlfriend, watch sports, etc. I wan't to spend my gaming time gaming and not on a PC.
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Deleted member 752119
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To be fair, the types of exclusives are pretty different.
Consoles get a lot of the narrative-drive, cinematic action/adventure types of games that the mainstream gamer market eats up as exclusives.
PC exclusives with exeptions are mostly more gamplay focused things like Sims, 4X games, RTS games, MOBAs and what not. CRPGs like Pillars of Eternity, Baldurs Gate and what not are probably biggest story driven exclusives I guess, and a lot of console gamers don't like the gameplay/complexity there.
I view comparing PC exclusives to Sony consoles (MS is mostly moot now) similar to comparing Nintendo exclusives to Sony exclusives. They all have their exclusives, but their very different so it's reasonable that many gamers just aren't going to give a shit about the other platforms exclusives.
i.e. the average Joe Playstation gamer that's playing Uncharted, Infamous, Bloodborne, TLOU etc. along with CoD, AssCreed, GTA and other multiplats often has no interest in Mario/Zelda/Nintendo stuff or Civilization/DOTA/StarCraft/Baldur's game. And vice versa.
That's why exclusives list wars are so pointless. It doesn't matter how many exclusives at platform has. It only matters how many exclusives the platform has that each individual deciding whether to buy or not wants to play.
Interesting, I thought of the opposite.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1328029
Also there was another one I couldn't find but the title was something like "There's no reason to buy a PC".
Edit: Found it! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313559 Mod even tinkered with the title a bit.
AzureFlame
Member
-Consoles Exclusives.
-Hard to move around with a PC.
-Many of my friends are not gaming on PC.
-Console are very simple to use and set up.
-Hard to move around with a PC.
-Many of my friends are not gaming on PC.
-Console are very simple to use and set up.
Mihos
Gold Member
Funny thing is, even with the initial cost, it is cheapest console I own when you include games and online fees.... I have spent at least $1500 just on PS4 games in the last year or so.
If you are only into a hand full of games, then of course it probably isn't worth it in your case. I am on the more extreme side, but honestly, if I was cash strapped, the PS4 would be the first to go and I would do PC only.
Having the budget/ resources for a console proof PC. I always hear people say "you can build a decent PC for under $300. I don't want a decent PC though, I'd rather own a console if I were getting "decent". Needs me some of that overpowered stuff that will get me into 2020 without opening the hood.
I did it once in College and spent about $900 and that thing lasted about 12 years of gaming. I just don't have that kind of budget at the moment.
Otherwise... yeah if it weren't for the money, I would not bat an eye at doing it. UIs like Steam Big Screen are a dream come true coming from my days of Windows XP->Windows 7.
I did it once in College and spent about $900 and that thing lasted about 12 years of gaming. I just don't have that kind of budget at the moment.
Otherwise... yeah if it weren't for the money, I would not bat an eye at doing it. UIs like Steam Big Screen are a dream come true coming from my days of Windows XP->Windows 7.
I have a tough time getting the comy couch excuse. Steam BPM is in a great place now, and with things like the steam link going on sale on a regular basis for $20, it's never been easier to have a controller and just play PC games on a couch. If that's the only thing holding you back, consider trying it out, you can even use your xbox one and ps4 controllers on it.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
It's just more misinformation being spread, it isn't surprising
breveglieri
Banned
No, but the fact that he's putting on the same level a game that has a Metacritic average of 93 after 113 reviews and 3 other games that nobody has ever heard of and only has 8 reviews from some niche publications is almost offensive
EventHorizon
Member
It's not a "curiously self-reinforcing and convenient point;". It's a point that is true on the face of it. I could game on the PC if I wanted to. I choose not to because...
wait for it....
I prefer to game on consoles!
If you think there is some other reason why I choosed to game on consoles, please read my mind and tell me. You obviously think you know me better than I know myself. This augment PC enthusiasts use to make them feel better that they know what console gamers feel is just plain stupid.
Once again PC enthusiasts can't resist telling other people what they should like. This is simple. People buy and play/watch the games/movies they like. If one type is bought more than others, it's because that is what people want. Your tastes aren't any better than anybody else's.
Oh boy somebody even brought the metacritic guns
We should really limit these type of threads to once per year, it's always sort of a "same shit, different day" type of topic.
2. They are no cinematic TPS with bad gunplay
We should really limit these type of threads to once per year, it's always sort of a "same shit, different day" type of topic.
1. They are not exclusive to Sony PlayStation
2. They are no cinematic TPS with bad gunplay
Why shouldn't these be considered great games?
I know it's kind of the reverse of the whole purpose of this thread, but I have to say that the main reason I've switched over to PC as my primary platform is because for some reason I feel I have more freedom with the games I buy.
It really depends on how you look at that "freedom" and "ownership" though. Almost all my PC games these days are digital and probably tied to Steam, whereas most people buy console games on discs they can trade and whatnot, but I think what gives PC the edge for me is the freedom in what you can play them on. I can install REmake on my main gaming computer to play it on my 46" TV, or I can install it on my laptop to give it some level of portability. I know that if I upgrade to a new computer a few years down the line my library comes with me -- that Windows has been probably the most reliable platform for backwards compatibility is probably one of PC gaming's greatest strengths. If I buy a console game though, It's stuck on a platform that's only going to be relevant for a few years. I know other people might see it differently, but that has started to feel really limiting for me. I don't like that I have to have eight consoles in my house to maintain access to all my favorite console games I bought over the years, but on the flipside I've got like 500 great games from a span of 20 years on either one of my PCs or my Steam account. That so many people turn to emulation as the most effective way to preserve classic console games is proof of the advantages of this.
Maybe I'd feel different if consoles were a lot more consistent with BC, or came in more various form factors that shared software libraries like iOS devices. That's why I'm all for iterative consoles with various form factors down the line. "PlayStation" shouldn't be a series of isolated consoles, but rather a cohesive platform where PlayStation games play on PlayStation systems, period.
Maybe what it is, is that the content distributors on PC seem to actually give a shit about legacy content. Console manufacturers are trying to promote legacy games but in the case of Sony and Nintendo it's just come off as another strategy to get people to pay for games again and again. How many times have you had to pay for Virtual Console games on Wii, Wii, U, and 3DS? Sony sold PS2 games on PS3 then sold them again on PS4 with trophies when we were all waiting for the PS1 and PS2 classics we bought to just become playable on PS4. When you buy an old-ass game on Steam or especially GOG though, there's a sort of expectation that this is supposed to be the last version of this game you'll need to buy for a long time. It's preserved. In multiple cases remasters on consoles have been given away for free on PC to people who bought the original game. This is honestly the main reason I can't bring myself to buy Rez Infinite after having bought Rez on PS2 and Xbox 360. On the console front Microsoft seems to be pushing the most for legacy content with how far it's brought Xbox One BC and its intention to keep those games playable on Scorpio and beyond.
Yeah, I ended up writing kind of an anti-console rant, but the way exclusivity to closed platforms has made so many console games feel like disposable products has irked me for a while. I probably care about that more than playing PC games at the highest graphics settings.
It really depends on how you look at that "freedom" and "ownership" though. Almost all my PC games these days are digital and probably tied to Steam, whereas most people buy console games on discs they can trade and whatnot, but I think what gives PC the edge for me is the freedom in what you can play them on. I can install REmake on my main gaming computer to play it on my 46" TV, or I can install it on my laptop to give it some level of portability. I know that if I upgrade to a new computer a few years down the line my library comes with me -- that Windows has been probably the most reliable platform for backwards compatibility is probably one of PC gaming's greatest strengths. If I buy a console game though, It's stuck on a platform that's only going to be relevant for a few years. I know other people might see it differently, but that has started to feel really limiting for me. I don't like that I have to have eight consoles in my house to maintain access to all my favorite console games I bought over the years, but on the flipside I've got like 500 great games from a span of 20 years on either one of my PCs or my Steam account. That so many people turn to emulation as the most effective way to preserve classic console games is proof of the advantages of this.
Maybe I'd feel different if consoles were a lot more consistent with BC, or came in more various form factors that shared software libraries like iOS devices. That's why I'm all for iterative consoles with various form factors down the line. "PlayStation" shouldn't be a series of isolated consoles, but rather a cohesive platform where PlayStation games play on PlayStation systems, period.
Maybe what it is, is that the content distributors on PC seem to actually give a shit about legacy content. Console manufacturers are trying to promote legacy games but in the case of Sony and Nintendo it's just come off as another strategy to get people to pay for games again and again. How many times have you had to pay for Virtual Console games on Wii, Wii, U, and 3DS? Sony sold PS2 games on PS3 then sold them again on PS4 with trophies when we were all waiting for the PS1 and PS2 classics we bought to just become playable on PS4. When you buy an old-ass game on Steam or especially GOG though, there's a sort of expectation that this is supposed to be the last version of this game you'll need to buy for a long time. It's preserved. In multiple cases remasters on consoles have been given away for free on PC to people who bought the original game. This is honestly the main reason I can't bring myself to buy Rez Infinite after having bought Rez on PS2 and Xbox 360. On the console front Microsoft seems to be pushing the most for legacy content with how far it's brought Xbox One BC and its intention to keep those games playable on Scorpio and beyond.
Yeah, I ended up writing kind of an anti-console rant, but the way exclusivity to closed platforms has made so many console games feel like disposable products has irked me for a while. I probably care about that more than playing PC games at the highest graphics settings.
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