To be fair, its by far mostly about how performance is not leaps and bounds better than the console versions. If you are happy with console performance, PC games will deliver than easily on modest hardware. But the standard PC gamer needs that 1440p+, 60 fps, control and graphics settings out the XXX, and be cheaper to boot.
For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?
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To be fair, its by far mostly about how performance is not leaps and bounds better than the console versions. If you are happy with console performance, PC games will deliver than easily on modest hardware. But the standard PC gamer needs that 1440p+, 60 fps, control and graphics settings out the XXX, and be cheaper to boot.
So real quick...
it is really easy... not a damn liar. Laptops "generally" suck for gaming- a laptop is the console gamers halfhearted toe dip into computers and PC gaming gets a bad rap for it.
I have a wireless KB/M and lap pad and an Xbone controller.
but my point is this.. PC gaming is objectively better from a price tech standpoint. Games are cheaper no online and parts are not quite nearly as expensive as people seem to think UNLESS you want 4k 60 ultra etc... You don;t have to upgrade every year ( that is the hobbyist portion of the market)no remasters to buy really.. it goes on...bundles etc.. and a library that follows you for life. I already played FF12 in 4k - you can do that with all your pre p3/360 games that you own. with any controller you like. A few are dicey... WiiU is coming soon and Wii is already here
from a subjective standpoint - consoles have better exclusives and people feel in their comfort zones there.. there is nothing wrong with being in the safety bubble. If you play mostly multiplats then you are 100% missing out. a 300$ toy/gated computer vs a real computer ...the experience is technically superior. IF you playing mostly exclusives.. then no need for PC.
no one is bad or good for playing either. It is a hobby and all about preference, but computer gaming is not hard/difficult. It is just scary because it is confusing when you first start. Asking a predominately console board for advice is not the best idea. After one build it was easy. That build...was also easy.If you want to try it -do not listen to the naysayers. I almost never have issues and outside of exclusives, I never pick up my consoles anymore. PC is a place where all games can shine as much as they possibly can now and moving forward.
it is really easy... not a damn liar. Laptops "generally" suck for gaming- a laptop is the console gamers halfhearted toe dip into computers and PC gaming gets a bad rap for it.
I have a wireless KB/M and lap pad and an Xbone controller.
but my point is this.. PC gaming is objectively better from a price tech standpoint. Games are cheaper no online and parts are not quite nearly as expensive as people seem to think UNLESS you want 4k 60 ultra etc... You don;t have to upgrade every year ( that is the hobbyist portion of the market)no remasters to buy really.. it goes on...bundles etc.. and a library that follows you for life. I already played FF12 in 4k - you can do that with all your pre p3/360 games that you own. with any controller you like. A few are dicey... WiiU is coming soon and Wii is already here
from a subjective standpoint - consoles have better exclusives and people feel in their comfort zones there.. there is nothing wrong with being in the safety bubble. If you play mostly multiplats then you are 100% missing out. a 300$ toy/gated computer vs a real computer ...the experience is technically superior. IF you playing mostly exclusives.. then no need for PC.
no one is bad or good for playing either. It is a hobby and all about preference, but computer gaming is not hard/difficult. It is just scary because it is confusing when you first start. Asking a predominately console board for advice is not the best idea. After one build it was easy. That build...was also easy.If you want to try it -do not listen to the naysayers. I almost never have issues and outside of exclusives, I never pick up my consoles anymore. PC is a place where all games can shine as much as they possibly can now and moving forward.
Of course people have issues. You can Google people having issues with their consoles just as well. What I said was that for maintenance there isn't all that much difference between consoles and PC nowadays.
Interfectum
Member
I have a gaming PC hooked up to my TV. There are still a ton of little issues compared to a console.
Lets say I want to record, edit and share an elusive target kill from Hitman on Youtube all from sitting on my couch. PS4 makes that entire process seamless as hell. On PC, it's not impossible to do, but there is far more setup and work to achieve the same result, especially from the couch. I don't even think it's possible to do all of those things with a controller on PC.
Do you want to sit back on the couch and play a competitive game of Overwatch? Again, much easier to do on PS4 as you need a kb/m for PC (unless you want to fuck your team over).
I don't think anyone is denying the power of PC, the options you get, the amount of games available but there are legit reasons for still opting for console gaming.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
I'm saying there is that much difference. It's not as bad as it used to be but it happens way more frequently than on a closed system like a console. Do you disagree? Go ahead an google. I bet anything you will find about 30x more examples of it happening on pc in your google results.
1. Turn on PS4
2. Oh great, stability update
3. Install update
4. Put disk in
5. Can't play as I have to download an update and the game has to install
6. 300mb update finally downloaded 3 weeks later because the speeds are fucking awful on PSN (xbox is fine)
whoa so inconvenient
I have a PS4 and a gaming PC and play on both
ElfArmy177
Member
Change your DNS to Google DNS. No joke. Will fix your speed issues.
Kaji AF16
Member
Essentially, this. Plus some other factors, including:
-Vast network of friends (both "real life" and "virtual only") with whom I share specific sets of gaming habits and tastes. For example: On Mondays, I play Gears of War or Halo with the guys from my local videogame store, most of whom I know from long ago. On Tuesdays I will probably be found playing Forza with virtual racers of the argentinean community, with whom I use to dinner on Thursday nights. During weekends I usually participate in events with members of the Xbox Argentina community.
Recently, some of these people switched to PC (or PS4) but most eventually returned after learning that those respective communities were... "less social and welcoming", as a friend said.
-Deep investment into the Xbox ecosystem. Sure, 2017 is looking comparatively barren for Microsoft Studios... but my interest in Forza 7 and Halo Wars 2 alone completely destroys any temptation I could have for PC (or Playstation) exclusives. Many of the already mentioned contacts are hardcore achievements hunters, something I am also into.
I am absolutely confortable within Xbox, playing the ridiculed Forza, Halo, Gears trinity plus multiplatforms, with my Elite controller, my gamerscore hunting and my extremely varied, active contact list.
-I started my gaming life on an Atari 2600, then NES, then Mega Drive. In 1995 I switched to PC and stayed there exclusively until 2010. Looking back, my "console eras" have been relatively more rewarding and I remember then even more fondly than my long, also very special "PC era" (which I can currently recreate with my working laptop, if I wish). This working laptop can run a majority of the PC fabled decade-spanning catalog, except for the newest titles. I don´t want to buy an expensive machine -which will be inevitably obsolete very soon- for running those new, usually expensive games. On console I can trade, sell, etc.
Consoles are still more practical, and that is what I currently need and want for my adult life. Years ago I had a fire-spitting, gas-guzzling, roaring hard-to-maintain and hard-to-drive muscle car which turned heads; now a humble, economic Ford Focus which gives me all I need in terms of transport.
-Playing on consoles allowed to me to clearly separate my working system from my recreational systems, which is very important when you -as mentioned in the post I quoted- work eight or more hours per day on a computer.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Here's a shot of dishonored 2 that I ran on my Pc, thru my receiver to my 4k projector at 140"
https://flic.kr/p/Q9YcZj
Sitting on my couch with a controller, 4k settings, its glorious.
Obviously that display could be anyone's hdtv, but it's awesome to enjoy best of both worlds in terms of high end Pc gaming and comfort.
But on the flip side, here's BF1 on pro which does look pretty awesome
https://flic.kr/p/P6ALjw
https://flic.kr/p/Q9YcZj
Sitting on my couch with a controller, 4k settings, its glorious.
Obviously that display could be anyone's hdtv, but it's awesome to enjoy best of both worlds in terms of high end Pc gaming and comfort.
But on the flip side, here's BF1 on pro which does look pretty awesome
https://flic.kr/p/P6ALjw
simatron3000
Member
I used to hold all the same misconceptions but eventually cracked due to the dog shit performance and IQ of titanfall on xb1. Splashed on a decent PC and it really is the ultimate gaming device, everything is just smooth and more fun to play, near infinite compatibility with every console up to ps3/360 generation through emulation. When I get home tonight I'll be playing Mario Galaxy 2 in 4k, using a wii remote and nunchuk.
my post wasn't really a serious one, I was just poking fun
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
Consoles are custom built and designed by the manufacturer to deliver the couch experience. A careful balance between price, horse-power and overall functionality, each aspect of which can be rinsed to its reasonable limits by corporate investment and buying power.
And sure, you can get similar fuctions from a PC, but you'll be the one doing the custom building and the designing. You'll be sourcing the software, components and know-how to put it together and install it in your front room.
But it won't be as good. You won't be able to have custom parts built to spec by tech companies like NVIDIA or AMD. You won't be able to write your own custom firmware to run it all. You'll have to cobble together the best solution you can from what's already out there and it'll probably cost you more overall in parts and that's before you consider your labour.
But, let's say you do it - you use your noodle and you nail down a spec which for a similar price goes cycle-to-cycle with its console counterparts. Next comes the games.
When I buy a PS4 I know that developers, when building a game for the platform, will target my specific hardware config. The code will be optimised for the hardware I own and that's great - it means, with hard work on the part of the developer I can have games like Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn - that have no right running on a five year old netbook CPU - running on a five-year-old netbook CPU.
And sure, maybe you can achieve something similar on the like-for-like PC, by tweaking internal settings (assuming they're provided) or playing with your hardware/OS set-up, or downloading third party hacks and mods, but again, that'll be up to you.
Finally, that PC you built probably comprises a dozen or more different manufacturers work: PSUs, cases, motherboards, CPUs, GPUs and RAM, and that's before we even mention the OS, anti-virus or firmware. Any problems it'll be up to you to figure which bit having trouble and contact that manufacturer's support team to get help fixing it. The console meanwhile, always goes back to the same manufacturer.
So yeah, the long answer is: I'm lazy and I don't want to have to put in all that time and energy. Sure, sometimes I wish I had a bigger catalogue to choose from, but for all the trade offs, I deem it worth while.
Just me....
And sure, you can get similar fuctions from a PC, but you'll be the one doing the custom building and the designing. You'll be sourcing the software, components and know-how to put it together and install it in your front room.
But it won't be as good. You won't be able to have custom parts built to spec by tech companies like NVIDIA or AMD. You won't be able to write your own custom firmware to run it all. You'll have to cobble together the best solution you can from what's already out there and it'll probably cost you more overall in parts and that's before you consider your labour.
But, let's say you do it - you use your noodle and you nail down a spec which for a similar price goes cycle-to-cycle with its console counterparts. Next comes the games.
When I buy a PS4 I know that developers, when building a game for the platform, will target my specific hardware config. The code will be optimised for the hardware I own and that's great - it means, with hard work on the part of the developer I can have games like Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn - that have no right running on a five year old netbook CPU - running on a five-year-old netbook CPU.
And sure, maybe you can achieve something similar on the like-for-like PC, by tweaking internal settings (assuming they're provided) or playing with your hardware/OS set-up, or downloading third party hacks and mods, but again, that'll be up to you.
Finally, that PC you built probably comprises a dozen or more different manufacturers work: PSUs, cases, motherboards, CPUs, GPUs and RAM, and that's before we even mention the OS, anti-virus or firmware. Any problems it'll be up to you to figure which bit having trouble and contact that manufacturer's support team to get help fixing it. The console meanwhile, always goes back to the same manufacturer.
So yeah, the long answer is: I'm lazy and I don't want to have to put in all that time and energy. Sure, sometimes I wish I had a bigger catalogue to choose from, but for all the trade offs, I deem it worth while.
Just me....
infinit777
Member
I know lol, I have 300+ PC games and I have actually beaten like 3, I think. And those are just because my gf had them as well and we play the single player campaigns together over Skype xD
Like there's no real reason that I can see for the problem either
ElfArmy177
Member
I know but it seriously helps lol
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
As I said before if someone simply doesn't want to, that's fine. But when people have reasons like "I gotta have a controller", it is like mind blowing because even when people say you can have that controller they don't seem to take note. It's misconceptions like that when people say is the reason why I ask this question because if that stuff holds them back, my hopes would be to show them that Hey you can be comfortable and game with a Pc and controller just as you would with a console, and have games look even better
It's not that I refuse, it's that I couldn't be bothered to put the expense* and effort into it.
I've got a 6 year old MacBook Pro that still meets 95% of my daily needs, and I have no real space to set up a gaming PC at the moment.
(*If anyone wants to show me a PC I can build for $500, DON'T. If I wanted to, I could easily research that on my own.)
I've got a 6 year old MacBook Pro that still meets 95% of my daily needs, and I have no real space to set up a gaming PC at the moment.
(*If anyone wants to show me a PC I can build for $500, DON'T. If I wanted to, I could easily research that on my own.)
Well you haven't been around lately then
This is more like it for a "first time" playing a new game on a system. Yes it isn't "plug and play" but this is absolutely what you should expect when you are given so many more options on a platform of much more diverse hardware possibilities.
And again, it wasn't but my edit is much closer to it. Again it could also be a ton easier with a simple one time change in settings from the start, such as having BPM always start as default or have steam on startup etc etc. It's up to you.
As far as consoles go, you are obviously going to have a more seemless experience with all the restirctions that entails. Perfectly up to you. However, consoles are certainly not plug and play as before either on a first time setup. Oh rejoice at my ps3 experience - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=904934
breveglieri
Banned
MONEY
Or the absence of
Or the absence of
For the past 6 months every time I plugged my controller into my pc it crashed.
I switched from PC to console few years back. It is mainly for comfy couch and convenience. Cutting edge graphics arent a factor for me anymore, I just want the game to not crash, which isnt much of a concern on consoles. The only reason for me to play on PC would be if I went back to WoW.
Built myself a I7 6700k - 980ti gaming PC last year and don't use it and it is down to the amount of cheaters in the PC gaming scene which is something which is much more difficult to do and can reported properly with Live and PSN networks.
Constant pissing about with settings is also annoying.
Constant pissing about with settings is also annoying.
Aztechnology
Member
I feel like a lot of people making really lofty comments about price, complexity or features should say what their previous experience with PC gaming was, and when. Then we can Suss out who's speaking from experience, and those that are speaking from misconceptions.
GeordieMark
Member
I do game on PC, as well as Xbox and Playstation. I don't find PC gaming particularly complicated for the most part. Having said that, I do often find myself faffing about trying to optimise performance through choice. Its almost like PC gaming becomes a bit of a game in itself at times, but like I say, this is down to me as much as the complexities and options afforded by PC gaming. I've got all these settings available that can affect my experience and I can help but play around with them.
Firsty, I don't care that much about graphics.
Secondly, I hate the hassle of incompatibility, drivers, unoptimisation and the need to upgrade.
Thirdly, lack of plug and play pad integration.
But most of all I hate that you can scale the UI/enlarge fonts in most games. Because I do have my PC hooked up to the TV, but can't play sh** from the couch, as the text is too small.
Secondly, I hate the hassle of incompatibility, drivers, unoptimisation and the need to upgrade.
Thirdly, lack of plug and play pad integration.
But most of all I hate that you can scale the UI/enlarge fonts in most games. Because I do have my PC hooked up to the TV, but can't play sh** from the couch, as the text is too small.
Or better yet, look down at Nintendo for having low specced hardware. I can't believe it's mainly PC gamers shitting on Switch on these multiple threads about it here. The superiority in Playstation gamers around here is a problem, not so much the PC gamers imo.
Doesn't bother me, but as stated above. The attitude towards Nintendo on people who settle for PS4 bothers me. And spreading false information like "you can't comfy couch game on a PC", "only PC has to go through software updates", "there are no exclusives on PC", "gaming on PC is complicated" bothers me.
Well for me cost was the biggest factor to why I didn't get a PC.
Out of college now with a steadyish job allowed me the luxury to recently get a decent prebuilt on sale.
The whole drivers/patches/tinkering issues get blown out of proportion by a lot of people. This is coming from somebody who was previously console only.
Out of college now with a steadyish job allowed me the luxury to recently get a decent prebuilt on sale.
The whole drivers/patches/tinkering issues get blown out of proportion by a lot of people. This is coming from somebody who was previously console only.
Ha ha! This is the real question. I just don't get it. PC guys get so worked up about this.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
1) money.
It's just a lot of money that I don't have at the moment.
2) form factor
My flat is not that big, and I don't have the space to have a big box tower standing aorund somewhere.
It's just a lot of money that I don't have at the moment.
2) form factor
My flat is not that big, and I don't have the space to have a big box tower standing aorund somewhere.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
Too many distractions on PC, I game on console to get away from the internet. I have a friend I visit who has his PC connected to his TV and he's always doing something or updating something before he shows me the game he's playing. Then he'll get bored and just watch Youtube videos.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
I've always wanted to build by own rig but everytime I feel like taking the plunge I have second thoughts. Besides the price tag there are múltiple factors as to why I primarily game on console and not PC. I will list them below.
- PC doesn't get the big budget exclusives that consoles get and I love big budget 1st party titles.
- Intimidation. I wouldn't know where to begin in building a gaming rig, updating drivers, getting the best out of my machine. I get that for many PC gamers that revel in that type of stuff, tinkering here and there until it's "just right". That does not appeal to me. The intimidation of playing with a mouse and keyboard is also a factor. I've been playing on gamepads my whole life. Sure I can plug in a controller but I would initially make the effort to learn how to use M/KB
- At the present time, cost is also a factor. I usually want the best of the best so in building my PC rig I would want the best graphics card, the best CPU, the best ram etc and right now it's not in my budget.
- Graphics are important to me. Many say that they shouldn't be and that gameplay is king. These folks are correct imo and although games are above all else a visual medium, I don't value visuals enough to want to get a gaming PC.
Com Truise
Member
I'm mostly interested in Japanese games so the platform is kind of useless to me.
Nightmare452
Member
Why I don't play on PC? Various reasons.
1) Money for the system. A quality PC is indeed more expensive than a console. I can play Overwatch fine on my PC, but not at a high/ultra resolution. To upgrade it, I need at least a $150-200 graphics card and a new power supply. So my system originally cost me $400+$100 on a new graphics card (ain't gonna use integrated card). Then I bought a new headset, keyboard and mouse. Overall, put around $600+ on my PC. My $400 PS4 runs all games still at a higher resolution. I would need to put an additional $200 minimum to meet/match a PS4/XB1. That makes it $800 versus $400 for the same/similar gaming experience.
2) Controls. Other than FPSs, I see no advantage to playing on a Kb/M. I play OW on PC, and love it, much better controls. But I play X-Com Enemy Unknown on PC, then on 360, and I see no superior controls. Yeah, its nice on Kb/M, but nothing that gives me an advantage/greatly hinders my experience. Even then, the flexibility to use either a KbM or controller is not worth the double price point from point 1. Kb/M rules for competitive FPS or RTS games if playing online, otherwise, a controller is a suitable control option.
3) Stability. I don't have a monster PC, but its decent enough that I can play all Blizzard and my Steam games on medium/high setting. I like RTS games like Starcraft, and have been playing SC2 for years. Decided to try Halo Wars 1 on PC, and it was running well; until it crashed. This is a main issue with PC gaming. Why did my game crash? Was it the game? The PC itself? The Windows Store? The graphics card? The memory failed? Internet connection issues cause by other programs running in background? Screw this, I don't want to troubleshoot this issue (I can, just don't want to damn it). I got an error stating the graphics couldn't be played or whatever. WTF. This makes PC gaming an annoying proposition that console gaming fixes. Do errors still happen on consoles, sure, but to a much lower degree.
4) Exclusive games/expected game performance. I love Starcraft 2, HotS, and other RTS games. But for the most part, the games I want are on PS4/XB1. I know they will play well, stable, control great, etc. on my consoles, so why should I go to PC, were resolution will be worse for me, Kb/M is decent but not the best for me, game might crash any time for sometimes seemingly random reason, and I don't know for 100% sure how my PC will run it (medium/high/ultra settings, 30fps/60fps, stable fps, etc.). Not worth the hassel, get the games on console then.
Overall, I know there are huge benefits for PC gaming, they just don't override the possible negative and costly side effects. The easy of use of console gaming means mountains for me.
1) Money for the system. A quality PC is indeed more expensive than a console. I can play Overwatch fine on my PC, but not at a high/ultra resolution. To upgrade it, I need at least a $150-200 graphics card and a new power supply. So my system originally cost me $400+$100 on a new graphics card (ain't gonna use integrated card). Then I bought a new headset, keyboard and mouse. Overall, put around $600+ on my PC. My $400 PS4 runs all games still at a higher resolution. I would need to put an additional $200 minimum to meet/match a PS4/XB1. That makes it $800 versus $400 for the same/similar gaming experience.
2) Controls. Other than FPSs, I see no advantage to playing on a Kb/M. I play OW on PC, and love it, much better controls. But I play X-Com Enemy Unknown on PC, then on 360, and I see no superior controls. Yeah, its nice on Kb/M, but nothing that gives me an advantage/greatly hinders my experience. Even then, the flexibility to use either a KbM or controller is not worth the double price point from point 1. Kb/M rules for competitive FPS or RTS games if playing online, otherwise, a controller is a suitable control option.
3) Stability. I don't have a monster PC, but its decent enough that I can play all Blizzard and my Steam games on medium/high setting. I like RTS games like Starcraft, and have been playing SC2 for years. Decided to try Halo Wars 1 on PC, and it was running well; until it crashed. This is a main issue with PC gaming. Why did my game crash? Was it the game? The PC itself? The Windows Store? The graphics card? The memory failed? Internet connection issues cause by other programs running in background? Screw this, I don't want to troubleshoot this issue (I can, just don't want to damn it). I got an error stating the graphics couldn't be played or whatever. WTF. This makes PC gaming an annoying proposition that console gaming fixes. Do errors still happen on consoles, sure, but to a much lower degree.
4) Exclusive games/expected game performance. I love Starcraft 2, HotS, and other RTS games. But for the most part, the games I want are on PS4/XB1. I know they will play well, stable, control great, etc. on my consoles, so why should I go to PC, were resolution will be worse for me, Kb/M is decent but not the best for me, game might crash any time for sometimes seemingly random reason, and I don't know for 100% sure how my PC will run it (medium/high/ultra settings, 30fps/60fps, stable fps, etc.). Not worth the hassel, get the games on console then.
Overall, I know there are huge benefits for PC gaming, they just don't override the possible negative and costly side effects. The easy of use of console gaming means mountains for me.
Cipher Peon
Banned
The physical gaming experience is nothing like how it is on consoles.
Convenience factor.
I'd rather buy a shiny new piece of hardware every so years than buy a part for another piece of hardware.
I don't want to build anything.
More convenient to take from place to place.
I prefer dedicated machines.
Consoles are more culturally relevant.
Exclusives
No interest in PC's performance
Cost
So quite a few reasons. I got into PC gaming and regretted it instantly. Now I'm almost exclusively play on consoles and am infinitely happier because of it.
Convenience factor.
I'd rather buy a shiny new piece of hardware every so years than buy a part for another piece of hardware.
I don't want to build anything.
More convenient to take from place to place.
I prefer dedicated machines.
Consoles are more culturally relevant.
Exclusives
No interest in PC's performance
Cost
So quite a few reasons. I got into PC gaming and regretted it instantly. Now I'm almost exclusively play on consoles and am infinitely happier because of it.
The Dear Leader
Banned
i dont game where i prepare my taxes sorry and they dont have cod.
I have a couple reasons. The long and short of it though, is that I like tradition and dislike change.
So right off the bat, I don't like digital distribution. The folks at Indiebox do nice things, but outside of that, physical releases seem like the exception, rather than the norm on PC. On console I can usually feel confident that a high profile game will be released in my preferred format.
The biggest reason, for better or worse, is that I've grown up playing consoles. That's what I did in the past, and I never saw much reason to change. I'm not much of a stickler for tech details: can't tell 60 fps from 30, can't tell 1080 from 720 in most games (unless some of these things are side by side, but why would they be?). Never worried about playing the prettiest games or version. I've never adjusted to trying to play games on a keyboard or mouse, really; has always felt weird (though of course today you just use a controller to fix that).
When I was younger I played just a couple PC games, and I remember some just not working. Obviously isolated cases, but it left an impression from way back then. I really dislike the idea of game machines with varying performance levels (that applies to PS4Pro and Scorpio too, grr). I want my games to just work. (Though I'll say that I'm pretty sure majority of PC games these days just will.)
Another thing for me, is that I love the way consoles are split up. I can look at one set of games and think of them as a defining library for the Super Nintendo, and another set and think of them working together to make the Xbox 360 what it is, and so on. It gives an era of games a pretty clear beginning and end, and those are nice markers to go back and consider, "Ok, which games for this console do I want?". As a collector, it's nice to have that separation. On PC, everything feels sort of blended together across time and hard to sort through. And I appreciate that a games console is made for playing games first, while PC is a general purpose device first (applies to mobile too). That loses some of the appeal to me.
Last point, I'm just a big fan of Nintendo anyway. I get all the consoles for collection purposes, but the Nintendo systems and games are the ones I really get excited about. Certainly Steam et al have similar styles of games, but not quite the ones I'm into the most.
Annnnyway, I'm just stating the reasons I'm personally not into PC, since that's what the topic asked. In no way am I saying consoles are better than PC, or that everyone should do what I do. This is just the way I enjoy games, everyone else should do whatever they want.
Convenience of consoles, guarantee of games being released at the earliest, control pads (PC gets them way down the line), tailored OS that takes care of all gaming needs. And above all the i don't like the hassle PC gaming imposes. Effort to analyse spec lists, configuration management, the disperate nature of gaming there is a massive turn off.
timmyp53
Member
The only thing that bothers me is the perpetuated stuff how PC gaming is somehow close to rocket science where you are constantly tinkering with your flux capacitor and have to spend a million dollars every year on upgrades.
My fairly high end rig is at the moment a few years old hardware and I'll probably be using that for this year too as there is little incentive to upgrade. Hell, my PS4 Pro is newer than anything in my PC.
Hard to pick, setup and maintain. And then games have all kinds of issues and need to be fixed regularly. And the boxes are huge to connect to my TV, and I would miss on Sony exclusives which generally I tend to really enjoy.
All in all the value proposition is low
Unfortunately, since all my life I was a PC enthusiast, but nowadays I don't have time to do all of that on top of actually playing the games.
All in all the value proposition is low
Unfortunately, since all my life I was a PC enthusiast, but nowadays I don't have time to do all of that on top of actually playing the games.
Nameless
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I don't refuse, used to play on PC all the time(sometimes most of it) with everything else, and still do with small stuff. Took a sabbatical of sorts from gaming for several years( buying 2 maybe 3 games a year and stopped following the industry) and since coming in late 2014 I just haven't had room in my life for anything but a console. Planning on doing an upgrade soon for photo/video work which will have obvious gaming benefits.
Also do people really not understand that logistically it's not always possible or convenient for everyone to have their PCs hooked up in the living room, much less haul it back and forth or run a cable across their home? It's like this whole snarky, "comfy couch" meme has an oddly placed blind spot for the everything outside the simple act of connecting a PC's HDMI cable to the back of a television.
Also do people really not understand that logistically it's not always possible or convenient for everyone to have their PCs hooked up in the living room, much less haul it back and forth or run a cable across their home? It's like this whole snarky, "comfy couch" meme has an oddly placed blind spot for the everything outside the simple act of connecting a PC's HDMI cable to the back of a television.
Hollywood Hitman
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I have a gaming desktop basically just gathering dust (have turned it on maybe 2-3 times the last 6 months)
Basically due to the following reasons
- I don't care for better graphics. Basically post PS2 everything looks fine enough for me.
- I don't want to deal with troubleshooting, drivers and that shit.
- My favourite genres are mostly console exclusive (JRPG, Platform, Zelda-style adventure games and Souls-like action RPG:s)
- Bar Steam sales digital PC stuff is more expensive than physical PS4 games where I live.
Basically due to the following reasons
- I don't care for better graphics. Basically post PS2 everything looks fine enough for me.
- I don't want to deal with troubleshooting, drivers and that shit.
- My favourite genres are mostly console exclusive (JRPG, Platform, Zelda-style adventure games and Souls-like action RPG:s)
- Bar Steam sales digital PC stuff is more expensive than physical PS4 games where I live.
Sanctuary
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I can't tell if this is an issue of inconvenience due to the amount of time that is required to do these simple things, or if it's just intentionally an exaggeration. Know what I do to game on a PC?
1. Turn on my TV.
2. Turn on my PC.
3. Wait 15s to hit desktop, and another 10s - 20s for all of the startup processes to begin.
4. Click my mouse to launch a game (which isn't even necessary, just a habit I haven't broken yet).
5. Wait a whole 10s - 30s depending on the game to go from clicking to hitting the start screen.
Everything else you listed is either a lack of organization, or just not wanting to actually cater the game to your preferences. Price, exclusives (that someone wants to play) and playing with friends are all valid reasons. Your list isn't.
Yes it still happens. Huge day one patches are one thing, but they just handle themselves. There are far more things that can and do still go wrong on the PC side. Im not that far out from some battles with Nvidia software, and I just had to reinstall Windows to get my Play Anywhere titles working. Every Lego game on PC requires me to manually edit a configuration file after I launch it once, let it hard lock, then kill it. The list goes on, depending on a persons specific hardware.
The other thing is the shitty PC port, which still happens. You have to wait when a game launches to make sure it"s not another Arkham Knight.
Anyways, I don't refuse to game on PC, and I have a bleeding edge setup.. but I will generally go console first. It's just easier.
EventHorizon
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I've played games on computers and on consoles. I have not found the PC versions any more enjoyable with the exception RTS games where the keyboard and mouse allowed better immersion through better controls. As a result, the console's simplicity, cheaper costs, form factor, game selection, and more social nature locally wins me over to its side.
I expect that I'll get back into PC gaming at some point, but as it stands I have more than enough console games to play. There is also the nature of PC gaming that the longer you wait the better it gets. I will be building a new PC soon. Even then I have decided to go without a graphics card until there comes a point where there is a game exclusive to PCs I feel I must play.
I expect that I'll get back into PC gaming at some point, but as it stands I have more than enough console games to play. There is also the nature of PC gaming that the longer you wait the better it gets. I will be building a new PC soon. Even then I have decided to go without a graphics card until there comes a point where there is a game exclusive to PCs I feel I must play.
Jerry
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You seem to have selective memory. I can recall many threads on console performance / crashing issues too.
It also comes from having higher standards, a lot of complaints in PC performance threads are about edge cases and the game clearly not performing compared to the hardware it runs on. 99% of these are fixed within a week or 2 through patches.
Strazyplus
Member
Unless you associate PC for work and unable to enjoy yourself, or that the setup is uncomfortable as in the chair sucks. other reasons are a little unreasonable or are obvious troll bait.
I like to believe everyone has a computer even if they consider themselves solely as console gamers. even with old PC you can play great games and I wish they would least give it a try.
"great free to play games"
I like to believe everyone has a computer even if they consider themselves solely as console gamers. even with old PC you can play great games and I wish they would least give it a try.
"great free to play games"
I do my taxes on the built in internet browser of the xbox 360 with the use of an xbox controller, makes me anxious turning on the conosle as I associate it with doing taxes.
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