For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?

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I need a way to switch my desktop PC display to tv, and make it so that it automatically alternates between big picture mode and desktop mode when doing it without me pressing a button. I don't want to have to use my keyboard and select steam and then go to big picture mode every time I switch to TV, and I don't want a second PC.
 
My reasoning is actually pretty esoteric.

I work from home and stare at my PC all day (digital artist), as such I associate my PC with work - which I pretty much need to. The last thing I want to do to unwind at the end of the day is continue to sit in front of my PC and play games. Plus, I have ADHD, if I have games installed on my computer I guarantee you it will be a massive distraction just knowing they're a few clicks away. So I make it a point to keep my work and play areas completely separate.

That said, I haven't completely shunned PC gaming, I have a laptop that I used to use for work which is now essentially my World of Warcraft machine. But I keep it powered down and in another room during the day.
 
Also, I do a lot of gaming and surfing the internet at the same time... alt tabbing out of a game is a nuisance. Though it is freeing playing a game but not caring about trophies.
 
My reasons, though I'm sure they've all been mentioned at some point already:

1) I use a Macbook as my home computer. Great machines for photography and audio production, but not the greatest for gaming.

2) I was raised on Nintendo, and to some, would probably be considered one of the Nintendo faithful.

3) I prefer plopping down on my comfy couch, turning on my PS4/WiiU, and just playing.

4) I'm at a desk/PC for my job and don't feel like using a keyboard/mouse more than I have to.


Each of these taken alone may not be justifiable enough to some. But together, it just makes more sense to me.
 
a916 said:
Also, I do a lot of gaming and surfing the internet at the same time... alt tabbing out of a game is a nuisance.
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I use my iPad for most of my net browsing/GAF posting at home, whether I'm gaming on my TV (PC or console) or at my desk the rare times I play something that needs kb/m.
 
a916 said:
Also, I do a lot of gaming and surfing the internet at the same time... alt tabbing out of a game is a nuisance. Though it is freeing playing a game but not caring about trophies.
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Steam Overlay has a web browser or use Borderless Windowed to mitigate alt-tab issues.
 
a916 said:
Also, I do a lot of gaming and surfing the internet at the same time... alt tabbing out of a game is a nuisance. Though it is freeing playing a game but not caring about trophies.
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Why is alt-tabbing out of a game a nuisance?

I've got two monitors, one with a game almost always in borderless windowed mode, and anytime I want to I can pause the game, move the mouse over to the screen on the right, and shitpost on GAF with the game still running.

Also, how are you multitasking on a console? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post?
 
zoodoo said:
I am a programmer and i associate pc with busy work.
When I boot a pc, gaming is the last thing that come to mind.
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Same as me. Last thing I want to be doing is sat at my desk playing games after a long day sat at my desk playing programmer. Couch and a game I know will work. PC games seem to be very hit or miss lately with terrible ports (that take ages to fix) like Arkham Knight.

I also don't have the disposable income to justify having a decent spec PC in my home office as well as a gaming PC in the lounge.
 
RM8 said:
About this, my Alienware Alpha is smaller than a PS4, which makes it more portable than any modern console :P And speaking of fighting games, it's the only platform with both SFV and KI.
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1) The venues I go to have plenty of monitor to hook up a console to.
And then I have to spend $1K+ CAD for a gaming laptop which is excessive for my needs. Not to mention PS4s are the tournament standards as well so you might as well play with the correct delay.

2)I play GG and BB, ASW needs to support PC better.
I will double dip on BBCF when it becomes available though as I have GG Revelator (far superior netcode compared to console).

Can't wait for more people to tell me how wrong I am for catering to my specific context.
 
I actually used to be a primarily PC/Nintendo gamer. The three primary issues for me are:

1. Keyboards cause me immense wrist pain when gaming for more than an hour. I know most games have controller support these days but since I play a lot of FPS and have been dabbling more and more in competitive MP, those aren't really an option.

2. I compulsively adjust settings. I change them so much, even within a room when I rotate the camera to a different angel. I can't just relax and play like I can on console.

3. Too many games I care about are console exclusive or they get late/shitty PC ports. I'd still end up owning a console for a number of major titles so investing in a PC isn't worth the cost.
 
I'll just drop my list.

1. Money (I personally think even think that consoles are too expensive)
2. Space/Wires
3. Bad console to pc ports
4. Titles I want to play are mostly console exclusive (Persona 5, Final Fantasy 15, etc.)
 
Wish I could invite some of you guys over to my house. I play PC games outside on my patio. Grab my steam controller, push a button, start gaming. I'm dead fucking serious.

Only annoying part is when my girl dog licks my arm and rests her head on it or try to sit in my lap.
 
It's too easy to find hentai games and I know if I played games on PC all I'd do all day long is play hentai games.
 
The Albatross said:
Amazing.
How well does Steam Link work? I'm not playing a lot of twitch-movement games... Though some of the games I'm interested in on PC (Salt and Sanctuary for instance) can be negatively impacted by delay/lag. Also FWIW, I don't care about anything greater than 1080p and 60fps.
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It's fantastic. I actually have a steamlink in my living room, and one in my bedroom. As long as you're on ethernet it runs well with very little additional latency. I've been using it to play witcher 3 at 1080/60 and it looks great.
 
It has incredibly poor value. If i already have a PS4 for example then the need for a PC is greatly diminished.You could get probably all three major consoles in about the same price that it would cost to build a high end PC from scratch. Not to mention the cycle in between generation is bigger than the upgrade cycle of the PC. The reason People buy consoles aside from cost and value is for the exclusives witch are far better than the offerings on PC and third party games have good enough versions.
 
A few things

1. My PC is old, from 2010. It's fine for productivity (work, picture download and backup, media server) but would not do well at gaming. It's not slow day-today, so my immediate need to upgrade it isn't great. It's also so old that I can't really upgrade it, I would need a new mobo.

2. It's in a side room away from the family. My wife would be mad if I spent hours alone in the room and my kids would be beating on the door.

3. I'm older now. I used to love tinkering with a PC to get it set up just right for each individual game. I work on servers at work, so I am a little sick of computers when I get home and I don't have luxury time to spend on tweaking. I just want to pop a disc in and play.

4. All my friends are on PS4.

5. I have a 4K tv in the living room. While I know it's not true 4K, checkerboard PS4 games do look really good.

6. My PC does other stuff besides games, much of it automated, and I really don't want to fuck with the automation or break anything.



It all comes down to the PS4 just being easier, quicker, and more convenient. I sacrifice customizability and power, but in the end, I like the tradeoff.
 
1.Console exclusives
2. lack of pick up and play, hate tinkering with drivers and other incompatibility (I work in IT on network infrastructure, and am a bit sick of PC's when I get home)
3. lack of unified delivery platform. Steam, GFWL
4. mentally can't separate a PC from being for "work, email and the internet" consoles are garbage at those types of things so when I sit down to play a game I can't be interrupted by Outlook saying I have mail lol.
 
Budi said:
Have you seen the vitriol towards Switch here, how "shitty hardware" it is. How the games look bad, how Nintendo should go third party so people could play the games without buying "shitty hardware". Do you really think that's mainly the PC crowd saying it?
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Hey I am one of those people saying that Switch's lack of power is going to be a problem, but it's not the same argument. If I said you could buy one of two identical apples, but one costs $1.00 and the other costs $1.01, you'd buy the one for 1¢ less every time. While that 1¢ was very significant in your decision process, it doesn't matter much in real world. You'd probably step over a penny if you saw it one in the street.

The problem for the Switch is that it is too similar to it's competition, PS4 and XB1, because of its price. Because of that similarity, the power difference makes a disproportionate difference in buying habits. If the same game came out on the Switch and PS4, most people would get it on the PS4 because it would look better. If the Switch cost less to compensate for its lack of power then things would be more equal. So the real problem is the price, not the power.

Then there are a host of other issues with the Switch like the lack of third party support, but I'm already way off topic here.

Oh and 60 FPS gaming doesn't mean as much to the general public as most people here seem to think. A 60 FPS PC game doesn't necessarily get many more brownie points over a 30 FPS console version.

Budi said:
And no I wasn't telling you should like Moonlight over Suicide Squad, or Elle over Bye, Bye, Man. But Moonlight and Elle are the better films of those. And it saddens me that people don't give them a chance. I dislike musicals, but I watched La La Land it was a great film. I've been also trying to get more back into japanese games since I've pretty much dropped those along the way. I bought Danganronpa, which I didn't end up liking atleast yet. And now I'm looking forward to trying Nier Automata. I wish people were more open minded regarding movies and games. I don't dismiss consoles even though I prefer a PC. I've had both and hopefully continue doing so.
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Oh just STOP! Do you even hear yourself? You contradict yourself in the first two sentences.
Sentence #1: I wasn't telling you should like Moonlight over Suicide Squad, or Elle over Bye, Bye, Man
Sentence #2: But Moonlight and Elle are the better films of those.​
People don't like what you like. Fine. Get over it. Btw I happen to think the Transformers are horrible movies, but if someone told me they liked them I would actually believe they were telling me the truth.

Bringing this back on topic, I like AAA games. Horizon: Zero Dawn is my most anticipated game of this generation. I could care less about more artsy niche games, and feel no need to waste time or money to confirm yet again what I already know. My tastes line up more with the mass market (but not exactly), which is why I often push back against the Gaf hivemind when talking about overall trends.

This entire thread is silly. The answer to the posed question is obvious to anyone willing to think about it. Why do some people play console games over PC games? Because they prefer the overall console experience more. That goes from the ease of buying, to the perceived value, to getting it all to work. The only reason why we get stuck in this endless back and forth is because some people refuse to believe when people say why they like consoles better.
 
  • Can't afford to buy one
  • Don't like having to work out which graphics card to buy
  • The thought of chasing specs and constant upgrading
  • Keyboard and mouse attached to the TV
  • Games that expect the keyboard to be available
  • Having to work out what all the settings options mean
  • Having to choose between turning a graphics feature up/on and decent FPS
  • Lack of certain Sony 1st party franchises
 
RedSwirl said:
I know it's kind of the reverse of the whole purpose of this thread, but I have to say that the main reason I've switched over to PC as my primary platform is because for some reason I feel I have more freedom with the games I buy.

It really depends on how you look at that "freedom" and "ownership" though. Almost all my PC games these days are digital and probably tied to Steam, whereas most people buy console games on discs they can trade and whatnot, but I think what gives PC the edge for me is the freedom in what you can play them on. I can install REmake on my main gaming computer to play it on my 46" TV, or I can install it on my laptop to give it some level of portability. I know that if I upgrade to a new computer a few years down the line my library comes with me -- that Windows has been probably the most reliable platform for backwards compatibility is probably one of PC gaming's greatest strengths. If I buy a console game though, It's stuck on a platform that's only going to be relevant for a few years. I know other people might see it differently, but that has started to feel really limiting for me. I don't like that I have to have eight consoles in my house to maintain access to all my favorite console games I bought over the years, but on the flipside I've got like 500 great games from a span of 20 years on either one of my PCs or my Steam account. That so many people turn to emulation as the most effective way to preserve classic console games is proof of the advantages of this.

Maybe I'd feel different if consoles were a lot more consistent with BC, or came in more various form factors that shared software libraries like iOS devices. That's why I'm all for iterative consoles with various form factors down the line. "PlayStation" shouldn't be a series of isolated consoles, but rather a cohesive platform where PlayStation games play on PlayStation systems, period.

Maybe what it is, is that the content distributors on PC seem to actually give a shit about legacy content. Console manufacturers are trying to promote legacy games but in the case of Sony and Nintendo it's just come off as another strategy to get people to pay for games again and again. How many times have you had to pay for Virtual Console games on Wii, Wii, U, and 3DS? Sony sold PS2 games on PS3 then sold them again on PS4 with trophies when we were all waiting for the PS1 and PS2 classics we bought to just become playable on PS4. When you buy an old-ass game on Steam or especially GOG though, there's a sort of expectation that this is supposed to be the last version of this game you'll need to buy for a long time. It's preserved. In multiple cases remasters on consoles have been given away for free on PC to people who bought the original game. This is honestly the main reason I can't bring myself to buy Rez Infinite after having bought Rez on PS2 and Xbox 360. On the console front Microsoft seems to be pushing the most for legacy content with how far it's brought Xbox One BC and its intention to keep those games playable on Scorpio and beyond.

Yeah, I ended up writing kind of an anti-console rant, but the way exclusivity to closed platforms has made so many console games feel like disposable products has irked me for a while. I probably care about that more than playing PC games at the highest graphics settings.
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I get where this is coming from, great post.

I play 90% of my games on consoles and handhelds. These days, I often think I would happily ditch consoles and go handheld/PC only if I wasn't so interested in exclusives. Especially Nintendo and Japanese games for Playstation – Even though a lot of those come to PC these days.

As a collector, I enjoy physical copies, but for a lot of games these days, those are basically "starter discs" because of all the patches, DLC etc. you'd be missing. While on consoles I don't feel comfortable with digital solutions for the reasons you've stated (rebuying stuff every other gen or so; add to this licenses expiring or Nintendos "linked to the hardware" account system), on PC I somehow trust that games will be available in the future, especially with GOG but also with the possibility to back up your data and if keys or store services ever expire... well, it's PC, you know the gist, doesn't matter most of the time.

Still, as long as there will be console exclusives, I will remain on consoles and handhelds. I have a good PC, but it's my work rig and thus is located in my workroom. I sometimes play games on it, lately I've played Wolfenstein Old Blood and some classics like Jagged Alliance 2, but it's too far away from my bedroom with my consoles and TV for any sort of PC/TV connection and as long as I've still got consoles to play on, I don't see myself setting it up in any other way.

I don't get the argument of PC gaming being more complicated though, especially if you're a dedicated gaming enthusiast. If you're not installing emulators, trying to set up DOSbox (both are not complicated if you know what you're doing, but I get that it's not as simple as putting a disc into the device) or really into overclocking hardware components to get that last little inch of more performance, games on Steam and newer stuff on GOG actually offer fairly simple install solutions which are even able to auto-detect the best options for your hardware. I did not run into anything more complicated on Steam yet apart from a soundbug on Witcher 2 (and even that was solved through 5 minutes of Google). Most of the time, I buy the game either on disc or directly on Steam, wait for the download/install, hit play and start. Same as on console. I'd even go so far and say being a console collector is more complicated over time because you need to take into account repairs, replacements of hardware components, careful cleaning of the dusty insides with special screwdrivers (looking at you, Nintendo)...
 
Comfort and money. I can't afford a high-end PC but I already had a TV and a Home Theater, so for 300 bucks I got myself a PS4. Also it's tough as hell to connect a PC to a TV. At least my PC and my TV.

Oh and exclusives. I've been with the PS ecosystem since PS1, so the exclusives are a big thing for me.
 
Comfort
Cost of upgrades
An hour of fiddling to get the perfect blend of presentation and performance.

I used to be a big PC gamer up until about 8 years ago. I just couldn't keep up anymore. Plus, as someone who works in the IT field, the last thing I ever want to do when I get home is mess with yet ANOTHER computer.
 
TheBanditKing said:
3. lack of unified delivery platform. Steam, GFWL
4. mentally can't separate a PC from being for "work, email and the internet" consoles are garbage at those types of things so when I sit down to play a game I can't be interrupted by Outlook saying I have mail lol.
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Mentioning GFWL shows how out of touch you are.
It's been dead for years.

I've never been pulled out of a game by Outlook, have you gamed on a pc the last 10 years?
 
EventHorizon said:
The point I'm making should be clear but let me spell it out. The power advantage of the PC doesn't mean much. If it did then PCs would dominate in reviews. It doesn't. Let's look at those third party games you based your argument on to see if this mythical power advantage shows up.
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Metacritic 2016

PC  PS4 Title
92  91  The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine
91  90  Overwatch
88  89  Battlefield 1 
86  89  Titanfall 2
73  77  Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Nope...No evidence in review scores whatsoever. If you want to invent some other criteria that explains why you like PC games more then great. No problem. Just do not try to pretend like it a universal feeling. It just applies to you.
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Most sites don't do per-platform reviews. The differences in averages involve PS4-exclusive review sites and PC-exclusive review sites. This doesn't mean there is no benefit to a power advantage (or that reviewers don't think there's a benefit to a power advantage) -- it means that review scores aggregated cross-sectionally by Metacritic almost by definition can't show one.
 
vato_loco said:
Comfort and money. I can't afford a high-end PC but I already had a TV and a Home Theater, so for 300 bucks I got myself a PS4. Also it's tough as hell to connect a PC to a TV. At least my PC and my TV.

Oh and exclusives. I've been with the PS ecosystem since PS1, so the exclusives are a big thing for me.
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You plug in an HDMI cable from your GFX to your TV. What exactly is tough about this?
 
The biggest thing for me is how inflexible software is. With console games I'm free to sell, trade, give away, loan or, or otherwise do whatever the hell I want with my software. Since PC Gaming is practically all-digital now, once you buy a game, it's yours forever, tough luck if you don't like it or aren't interested it in it anymore.
 
I used to avoid PC gaming all my life up until last year. I honestly have no idea why I avoided it so long. Maybe having pretty much every console for the past 20 years made me biased, but now I really enjoy gaming primarily on my laptop. I just love the convenience and mobility of it and my only annoyance now is that some of my favorite franchises are still exclusively on consoles. I think i'll be staying with a PC + portable combo from now on.
 
insanekyo said:
I'll just drop my list.

1. Money (I personally think even think that consoles are too expensive)
2. Space/Wires
3. Bad console to pc ports
4. Titles I want to play are mostly console exclusive (Persona 5, Final Fantasy 15, etc.)
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Bad ports are usually still better than the console version, bad port on PC just means that it's not as good as it could/should be. Not that it's worse than the console version. Money and preferred titles are fair reasons though. Especially if you aren't going to collect a huge backlog of games but just the few big hitters you really want to play.
 
NOLA_Gaffer said:
The biggest thing for me is how inflexible software is. With console games I'm free to sell, trade, give away, loan or, or otherwise do whatever the hell I want with my software. Since PC Gaming is practically all-digital now, once you buy a game, it's yours forever, tough luck if you don't like it or aren't interested it in it anymore.
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If you buy it on stream I'm pretty sure you can get refunds once you haven't played more than 2 hours of it.
 
Savantcore said:
I just don't know where to begin really. I have no idea which graphics card or motherboard or anything is better than the other, I don't understand the metrics they use to measure the capabilities of each, and I don't know how to put it together, upgrade specific parts, nor really want to find out with stuff that costs so much money. If I got a gaming PC, I'd want a good one, which means a lot of money off the bat.

I could do plenty of research and find out which parts are the best, save my money and pay a little extra to get it built for me, and then set up bluetooth and connect my Xbox or PlayStation controller so that I can game from my couch.

Or I could just play on console.
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This is me.
 
Lupercal said:
Mentioning GFWL shows how out of touch you are.
It's been dead for years.

I've never been pulled out of a game by Outlook, have you gamed on a pc the last 10 years?
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those are really two of the weaker reasons on my list (the last being more of a joke), I have not had much reason to try going back to PC gaming because of the rest of the list.
 
OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

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People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
 
EventHorizon said:
The point I'm making should be clear but let me spell it out. The power advantage of the PC doesn't mean much. If it did then PCs would dominate in reviews. It doesn't. Let's look at those third party games you based your argument on to see if this mythical power advantage shows up.
Code: 
Metacritic 2016

PC  PS4 Title
92  91  The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine
91  90  Overwatch
88  89  Battlefield 1 
86  89  Titanfall 2
73  77  Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Nope...No evidence in review scores whatsoever. If you want to invent some other criteria that explains why you like PC games more then great. No problem. Just do not try to pretend like it a universal feeling. It just applies to you.
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As already mentioned above, these reviews aren't based on comparing one version of the game to another.

I can either play a version of Blood and Wine at 30fps with drops, and lower graphics quality, or I can play at 60fps with higher graphics quality.

I can either play a version of Overwatch with m/kb controls which are more precise, or I can play a version with auto-aiming and less precision required from the player.

Same goes for any other game you list. So long as the PC port is capable of being better than the console version, you're only improving upon whatever review ratings critics have been giving it. Even a version considered a bad port by most like Dark Souls or Dishonored 2 is still considerably better on PC.

Flintty said:
OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

Neogaf.gif

People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
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Not our fault there's not many good reasons to play multiplatform games exclusively on console.
 
Akronis said:
You plug in an HDMI cable from your GFX to your TV. What exactly is tough about this?
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I'm guessing their PC/workspace and TV are far apart in their house. As noted a bunch, Steam link helps, but the wifi option is hit or miss depending on singal strength and amount of interference and a lot of homes aren't wired with ethernet.
 
So now we've gotten to arguing that certain games are better just because they're AAA and have lots of pretty graphics and big marketing budgets.

I haven't played Stephen Sausage Roll but I hear it's dope. That's kinda one of the things about PC -- it's still where most of the indie games come first and there are still a ton of great ones that don't come out on consoles. Undertale was arguably the best game of 2015 and still doesn't have a console version, doesn't even need a dedicated GPU to run.

Every once in a while we get threads about how Steam is getting crowded and how Sony and Microsoft are letting in too many indie games, but let me tell you why all those platform holders are letting in as many indies as possible: because they don't know which one is gonna be the next big thing, the next Minecraft. Valve is probably pleased with things like Nuclear Throne, ARK, and Stardew Valley coming out of Early Access because they bring a lot more business to Steam. Sony and Microsoft want indie hits to debut on their own platforms that way. Most will probably keep appearing on PC first just because of its status as an open platform.

I'll say this much though: the Switch is the first console I'm actually thinking of buying some indie games on first. Good handheld gaming is almost the only thing PC can't provide yet which I imagine is one reason a lot of people go with a PC/Nintendo combo for all their gaming needs. Having games like Shovel Knight and Sonic Mania on PC is real nice, but a lot of those side scrollers seem deliberately evocative of the kinds of games we played on GBA circa 2003, and I'd really like to recapture that feeling, but I also wanna play those games on a TV sometimes. PS4/Vita cross-buy is the closest we've gotten but I'm not gonna pick PS4 versions of those games over PC, nor am I gonna buy a Vita, whereas Switch is just one hardware purchase and everything is both portable and console. Thinking of getting games like Sonic Mania on Switch first, then Humble or GOG later just for the sake of preservation.
 
Flintty said:
OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

Neogaf.gif

People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
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They are only corrected when they are saying something false. Saying there are no PC exclusives is false, saying that you prefer Nintendo exclusives is valid. Saying that you can't play on a couch with a controller is false, saying your wife doesn't let you is valid. Though then it's an issue with the wife not the PC. Nobody is telling people to get new friends when they say that their friends play on a console so they will too. There are valid reasons for not gaming on a PC, but let's not make up bullshit. Only buying physical games is valid reason imo, since less games have physical PC release nowadays. But it's unfortunate on how many digital only games people pass up on consoles too then.
 
I used to game primarily on PC. I didn't have a console when I was deployed to Iraq, so I had a gaming laptop and played games that way when I wasn't working. It's also where I would play MMO's, shooters, and other particular genres that are just... better on PC.

Since then I've become more interested in JRPGs and platformers that typically don't require the same level of visual realism to make it fun or "mindblowing". Pixel art can be incredible. Hand drawn textures can be incredible, it isn't just all about poly counts and resolutions to me anymore.

What made me stop worrying about it so much was a few games that came out that looked absolutely incredible on PC, but were simply... boring. Not fun. or even tedious. Whether it was poorly implemented game mechanics, sloppy level design, poor control mapping and options, or technical issues that caused an undue amount of troubleshooting, I had simply had enough.
 
Flintty said:
OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

Neogaf.gif

People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
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Also agree on this, you can't just ignore explanations/reasons and label them as excuses. Also the whole physical over digital is a factor for me as well, I like building a collection each gen
 
Flintty said:
People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
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I don't think many give a shit if people prefer consoles, especially for valid reasons like not liking digital media. There are some elitists who jump on people for sure, just like every console has their idiot fanboys.

Mostly it's people just get annoyed by the misinformation people spread and how many inconveniences of PC gaming get overstated.

I hated it as I believed all the posts about hassling with drivers, tweaking settings etc. and for too long still though PC gaming was a pain in those fronts as it was the last time I bothered back in the early 2000s.

That's not even remotely the case. The vast majority of games I play I just go with autodetect settings, or try the ultra and high presets. Console gaming is getting just as "complicated" with PS4 Pro games offering hi/lite modes (FFXV) or a few options (Nioh) that change balance between resolution and frame rate. Driver updates, OS updates, game updates can all be set to automate just as they can on consoles etc.

So the FUD about that gets annoying to me, since again it delayed me from getting into PC gaming.

I have no issues whatsoever about people just preferring consoles--hell there's still a lot I prefer about them and still game a ton on my PS4 and Wii U (and soon Switch) despite maining PC now. PC definitely has some drawbacks (as do consoles)--too many of them just get overstated based on outdated understandings of what PC gaming is like. At the same time, yes some PC elitists are too aggressive in promoting PC gaming--but so are many console fanboys in promoting their platform of choice. It's just an annoying reality of the gaming community.
 
Flintty said:
OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

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People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.
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Because people continue to peddle nonsense that hasn't been an issue on PC for probably a decade now. No one is calling out the people that say they prefer physical media. It's great that you enjoy your physical collection, no one is going to convince you that you should drop it for PC or that it's an illegitimate reason for preferring consoles.

Relax.
 
TheBanditKing said:
Also agree on this, you can't just ignore explanations/reasons and label them as excuses. Also the whole physical over digital is a factor for me as well, I like building a collection each gen
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Exactly. Truth is, most people probably have a multitude of reasons and it just works for them. Yeah they also probably know their reasons can be worked around on PC if they really want to but they're comfortable with consoles. Well, that's me anyway.
 
Akronis said:
You plug in an HDMI cable from your GFX to your TV. What exactly is tough about this?
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The fact that I don't have a wireless keyboard that works, and if I did, the input lag would make most games unplayable anyway. The way my game room is distributed, it makes it a pain in the ass. I do have it plugged with an HDMI but I just use it to watch movies and series.
 
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