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[LordRaptor]

Because people continue to peddle nonsense that hasn't been an issue on PC for probably a decade now.

And it backfires, because fairly regularly someone gives Pc gaming a try, immediately sees for themselves just how much inane bullshit about it is peddled, creates a topic along the lines of "Guys, turns out PC gaming is pretty fucking good, you know?" then immediately gets attacked for elitism/ master race propaganda / why can't Pc gamers just accept console gaming as a choice / etc

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

The biggest thing for me is how inflexible software is. With console games I'm free to sell, trade, give away, loan or, or otherwise do whatever the hell I want with my software. Since PC Gaming is practically all-digital now, once you buy a game, it's yours forever, tough luck if you don't like it or aren't interested it in it anymore.

Funny, because the word I would use for console gaming is "inflexible." As in, you're stuck with the game as it was designed and with the hardware it was designed for. A game that runs less-than-ideally on console will run that way forever. Whereas (to use a recent, real life example) I can flawlessly run a game like Mass Effect 2 on my brand new 4K TV and be blown away by it all over again.

 

[Budi]

The PC gaming community.

I mean, gamers in general are pretty toxic a lot of the time but PC Gamers take the cake imo. No thanks.

While I kinda agree after playing Counter-Strike and Dota 2 so long. I'm now avoiding multiplayer games. But I really don't think playing on consoles would be much better. Well maybe there's less shit talking through typing when playing a game. But I remember a dedicated site for messages sent to women gamers through Xbox live, those weren't nice messages, so let's not pretend the gaming community as a whole doesn't have these problems.

 

[Ace Harding]

Three reasons:

1) Space. If I had a PC, I'd want a proper monitor and KB&M setup, therefore would need a desk and a chair. Space is at a premium and my wife wouldn't let me put a gaming PC in our bedroom or the living room or something so I'd be in the basement, which is really the kids play area. I don't really have an interest in buying a PC just to connect it to my TV. The games I'd really want to play specifically on PC would be KB&M games and I'm not doing that on the couch. I don't see a big reason to buy games otherwise available on console just for the graphics upgrade. Plus even then its one more fairly large box that needs to fit somewhere in my den. Only space available would be in a small cabinet with no ventilation. I definitely thought about cutting holes in the cabinet door and installing a fan intake and outtake but that seems excessive.

2) Time. I barely have time to play the games I already own on PS4 and 3DS. Adding another machine to the mix isn't going to help my backlog, and I don't want to dedicate my precious gaming time to fiddling with my PC. Just want to turn it on and go.

3) Money. Just not worth it for me with the two issues above.

 

[Conkerkid11]

The fact that I don't have a wireless keyboard that works, and if I did, the input lag would make most games unplayable anyway. The way my game room is distributed, it makes it a pain in the ass. I do have it plugged with an HDMI but I just use it to watch movies and series.

Use a controller like you do on your console?

Also, pretty sure input lag isn't a problem with wireless keyboards and mice, kind of like it isn't a problem with the wireless controllers you use with your console. :/

While I kinda agree after playing Counter-Strike and Dota 2 so long. I'm now avoiding multiplayer games. But I really don't think playing on consoles would be much better. Well maybe there's less shit talking through typing when playing a game. But I remember a dedicated site for messages sent to women gamers through Xbox live, those weren't nice messages, so let's not pretend the gaming community as a whole doesn't have these problems.

Yeah, console gamers are no better. I certainly don't get directly messaged by anybody on Steam like I do on XBL and PSN.

Plus, the only real difference is the existence of text chat on PC.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

 

[Akronis]

The fact that I don't have a wireless keyboard that works, and if I did, the input lag would make most games unplayable anyway. The way my game room is distributed, it makes it a pain in the ass. I do have it plugged with an HDMI but I just use it to watch movies and series.

Have you used a wireless keyboard recently? They're perfectly fine for 99% of games except maybe competitive CSGO players that also run uncapped 300 FPS for input latency.

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

The feeling of being superior, clearly, when they choose the wrong platform /s

 

[Symbiotx]

Funny, because the word I would use for console gaming is "inflexible." As in, you're stuck with the game as it was designed and with the hardware it was designed for. A game that runs less-than-ideally on console will run that way forever. Whereas (to use a recent, real life example) I can flawlessly run a game like Mass Effect 2 on my brand new 4K TV and be blown away by it all over again.

True, but that does go both ways... A game I buy and put in my PS4 will run just as good as everyone elses copy of that game. I don't have to worry about my graphics card being outdated, bad drivers, etc. I just throw it in and play it, knowing it will work - and knowing that will be true for every game this generation.

 

[Humdinger]

Not that I don't game on my ps4, but I wouldn't be without my Pc gaming as you really can take the hobby to another level.

Anyways just curious if folks still believe Pc gaming isn't as easy to fire games like a console. Or if there are other reasons I'd be curious to hear.

Here are my reasons:

1. If I played on PC, I would have way too many games to choose from. I already am backlogged on PS4 and there are a lot of great games right around the corner. Basically, I've got more than enough to play on PS4. Adding PC as a platform would give me way, way too much to play.

2. I am not a tech-savvy person, and although I keep hearing that all you have to do is plug an HDMI cable in and that's it, I just don't believe it. I worry that I'll have to learn about graphics cards, PC specs, etc. in order to be a PC gamer.

3. I have always been a one-console guy. I've bought a second console during previous generations and always ended up selling it back. One console is enough. I expect that buying a gaming PC would just repeat that process.

4. I feel like I already spend too much time on the hobby. Investing in a gaming PC would just double or triple that.

5. Knowing which gaming PC to buy would require research. I'm lazy and don't want to do it. I don't want to sort through spec sheets and a bunch of technobabble. It's not interesting to me, to learn about that stuff.

6. It would be more expensive than buying a second console. I could pick up a second console for about $200. A good gaming PC is going to run a lot more than that.

 

[Conkerkid11]

True, but that does go both ways... A game I buy and put in my PS4 will run just as good as everyone elses copy of that game. I don't have to worry about my graphics card being outdated, bad drivers, etc. I just throw it in and play it, knowing it will work - and knowing that will be true for every game this generation.

Unless you don't have a PS4 Pro, or somebody else is using an external drive faster than your internal hard drive.

And again... The problem with drivers doesn't make sense. Your OS updates automatically just like your console OS does, and your drivers can as well so long as you select that option, which probably isn't even preferred. People are running games just fine with GPU drivers from two years ago.

Meanwhile all updates are required on consoles in order to play online.

 

[Symbiotx]

That's understandable. Should have made my post more clear that it was directed at people that do have old hardware lying around.

I get what you're saying though. If I had a halfway decent PC, upgrading would be a no-brainer. It's always hard to get in initially, and then very easy to keep up with from there.

 

[Cabal]

OP asks why people don't play PC games.

Console GAF give reasons.

PC GAF try to debunk 'excuses' and persuade people they're wrong.

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People just like consoles, stop telling them they're wrong.

I thought of another reason. Someone mentioned they don't 'do digital'. This is valid and I love my collection of console games, from Megadrive/SNES onwards.

It's less for me about persuading and more about preventing misinformation. In every PC thread like this, there are people that say things like, "I can't play on a couch." Or "patching takes forever" or "PC has no exclusives"

These things are just simply untrue. At least the physical thing, I can see, but even then there are still physical collectors editions out there for a lot of games. Personally I love digital even for console.

As someone who loves both PCs and consoles, it's really weird to see people dog piling on the PC for "issues" that are quite frankly not real issues at all. I will say that my PC was not cheap compared to my PS4 Pro, but it runs games a hell of a lot better/smoother.

 

[TheBanditKing]

True, but that does go both ways... A game I buy and put in my PS4 will run just as good as everyone elses copy of that game. I don't have to worry about my graphics card being outdated, bad drivers, etc. I just throw it in and play it, knowing it will work - and knowing that will be true for every game this generation.

This I feel is the main reason people still buy/prefer consoles. Even for people who are more then capable of building/maintaining a great PC, console gaming (while not cutting edge) is just simpler and with how busy peoples lives are simplicity sells

 

[Budi]

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

Well from the OP I gathered this thread was partly created to see if there are still misconceptions about PC gaming. Which there clearly are and people are pointing those out. Like I'm certain people would correct me if I would say "I can't use headphones while playing on a console". And OP also says that they are curious. Maybe to see what could change in PC:s to make them more desirable and easier to approach. But I'm not the OP so I can't say that this was the reason for the topic.

True, but that does go both ways... A game I buy and put in my PS4 will run just as good as everyone elses copy of that game. I don't have to worry about my graphics card being outdated, bad drivers, etc. I just throw it in and play it, knowing it will work - and knowing that will be true for every game this generation.

I think it's quite debatable that Last Guardian "works" on a regular PS4. But ofcourse I'm mentioning just one game, this isn't usually the case on consoles. Atleast to my knowledge.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

In my case, I like to evangelize PC gaming as much as I can because I spent most of my life as a console gamer and now I can't imagine ever going back. I used to be the one on the forums talking about how I preferred the convenience of consoles and that I don't want to get bogged down by endless upgrades.

And now that I'm a PC gamer I love to fiddle with my games to get the best experience and the prospect of upgrading is the most exciting thing in the world. The things that scared me off of the platform for so long are now the things that keep me coming back for more.

So I just want people who were like me to know that PC gaming may seem daunting when you jump in, but it's absolutely worth it in the end.

 

[ironcreed]

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

My bike is better than your bike. My dad can beat up your dad.

 

[Symbiotx]

Unless you don't have a PS4 Pro, or somebody else is using an external drive faster than your internal hard drive.

And again... The problem with drivers doesn't make sense. Your OS updates automatically just like your console OS does, and your drivers can as well so long as you select that option, which probably isn't even preferred. People are running games just fine with GPU drivers from two years ago.

Meanwhile all updates are required on consoles in order to play online.

There are no PS4 pro exclusive games. Not using a different hard drive is never going to keep you from being able to play any game out of a box. These are non-issues and don't counter my point that I know I can run any game out of the box with no problem. Those things would improve your experience, but they are in no way necessary for anything.

Problems with drivers are a real thing, and windows update isn't going to save you from them all. Rare maybe, but there are a lot of situations where you need to have an updated driver to fix an issue or improve performance, or a new driver caused a bug. This was just an example of things you can run into that isn't a console concern. It's not a big factor, just an example of how there can be other things that come up.

 

[EventHorizon]

There's no fanboyism here, stop pretending there is to further your argument.

There are plenty of genres on offer on PC, far more than console, that's an objective fact. If you like certain games from certain developers, then by all means, stick with consoles.

If you like a specific big budget genre, PC still has that in spades.

I find it funny that repeatedly in this thread I have just repeated the argument posed to me, and then the person making that argument criticizes me for making the point. You were the one who said...

Because it's far too often seen that people ignore the existence of PC exclusives because they aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general therefore they don't count.

I was agreeing with the point that you made that there is a general difference in the types of games on PC and consoles. Therefore it is perfectly logical that people who prefer to play on consoles also prefer the types of games found on consoles. Now all of a sudden because I used your point against you, you want to act like you did not say it. Even more puzzling is that you want to pretend I originated it to claim fanboyism.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

In my case, I like to evangelize PC gaming as much as I can because I spent most of my life as a console gamer and now I can't imagine ever going back. I used to be the one on the forums talking about how I preferred the convenience of consoles and that I don't want to get bogged down by endless upgrades.

And now that I'm a PC gamer I love to fiddle with my games to get the best experience and the prospect of upgrading is the most exciting thing in the world. The things that scared me off of the platform for so long are now the things that keep me coming back for more.

So I just want people who were like me to know that PC gaming may seem daunting when you jump in, but it's absolutely worth it in the end.

Great post, love reading experiences like this.

 

[Buba Big Guns]

For me it's friends. For my friends it's the price and convenience of a console. Works for me since the PS4 has all the games anyway.

 

[Symbiotx]

Well from the OP I gathered this thread was partly created to see if there are still misconceptions about PC gaming. Which there clearly are and people are pointing those out. Like I'm certain people would correct me if I would say "I can't use headphones while playing on a console". And OP also says that they are curious. Maybe to see what could change in PC:s to make them more desirable and easier to approach. But I'm not the OP so I can't say that this was the reason for the topic.



I think it's quite debatable that Last Guardian "works" on a regular PS4. But ofcourse I'm mentioning just one game, this isn't usually the case on consoles. Atleast to my knowledge.

The point is not that every game runs amazingly well, it's that I have no limiting hardware factors in purchasing a game. That game runs like ass because it was poorly optimized.

 

[AmuroChan]

1. Most of my friends game on consoles
2. I'm invested in the console ecosystem

 

[vato_loco]

Have you used a wireless keyboard recently? They're perfectly fine for 99% of games except maybe competitive CSGO players that also run uncapped 300 FPS for input latency.

I used one not long ago for an emulated Android game that required milisecond inputs. With a plugged keyboard, everything was smooth. With the wireless, I missed every single one by a margin. It's probably a crap wireless keyboard, I'm sure.

My main thing with PC gaming now is mostly money, though. If I wanted to upgrade my PC to current gaming standards (not even high-end, just 30fps for new games), here's what I'm looking at:

- Replacing my old-ass Phenom X4 for a... let's see, a Vishera? I don't even know... but let's say one of those, to save me the pain of changing motherboards to go with an i5. That's $320.
- Getting a GTX 1060 to replace my HD 6870. $520.

Just that. I'm guessing the 700W power supply should be enough, and my 16Gb of RAM could get the job done. And my 60Hz LG monitor would be enough. That's $840 bucks right there.

See, PC gaming is expensive in the US. But it's WAY more expensive anywhere else in the world. To be fair though, a standard PS4 is about $625 around here, so it's not like the difference is HUGE. But it's a pretty penny.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

I built a new gaming PC over a year and a half ago. I got myself a 980 card.

I played The Witcher 3 for one hour. That was the last game I played on PC.

Since then I've purchased over 40 PS4 games and have played the hell out of my console.

I don't do digital and I do not like that physical PC games do not have a ubiquitous design. They're also pretty ugly.

I like a uniform library that I can stare at. Consoles fulfill this.

I'm not sure I'll ever transition to PC gaming.

 

[Forsaken82]

First quote, yeah graphics are awesome but Im fine with PS4 Pro graphics and Xbox Ones so meh whatever.

Second quote, is probably my biggest reason. Its just more comfortable for me, to play with a controller and not to sit at a desk. I sit at a desk for most of the day, I dont want to go home and sit all day at another desk so more. You can connect a PC to a TV sure, but Id still be using a controller. Logistically, in my case, using a KB/M where my TV is at wont work.

I had a gaming laptop which has since broke and I barely used it and when I did it was to play football manager. The games I did play I ended up using a controller anyways.

That second quote was a troll... hense his spoiler tag. It's incredibly easy to set up a TV to your PC

 

[Budi]

The point is not that every game runs amazingly well, it's that I have no limiting hardware factors in purchasing a game. That game runs like ass because it was poorly optimized.

Fair enough. I'm personally glad that PS4 Pro and Scorpio won't leave people behind, but same games will be released for both so people aren't forced to upgrade. On a PC I use systemrequirementslab.com to quickly see if my PC can handle something so I won't mistakenly buy something I couldn't run. And I mostly buy from Steam anyway so fortunately I can refund if it doesn't run.

 

[Killroyskbg]

I think it's quite debatable that Last Guardian "works" on a regular PS4. But ofcourse I'm mentioning just one game, this isn't usually the case on consoles. Atleast to my knowledge.

How it is not working? Apparently a lot of people disagree with your notion of what work since it was voted pretty high on the Neogaf vote. Maybe it is personal preference?

 

[sneas78]

Pc crashes alot.. took me almost 2 hours to fix that crap last night to play with the vive. I'm only putting up with it for the vive... I also have Battlefield 1 and love it.. but the whole experience on pc is mehhh.

 

[ironmang]

I play CSGO pretty often and the odd exclusive I'm interested in but mostly I'll play on console for a bunch of reasons.

physical games - 20% off on release in addition to whatever promos are occurring like Visa Checkout or trade in bonuse. plus the convenience of owning something that I can resell or lend.

comfort - sure, I can play PC from the couch that's in a totally different room than the desk it's at if I want to carry it back and forth. i just don't want to.

plug n play - as much as i see people downplay this, so many forums are filled with people just trying to get their PC games to work. just a couple weeks ago i started playing south park: stick of truth and couldn't get my ps4 controller to work despite it working on inside, rogue legacy, and previous steam games with the same program. took an hour of cycling through different programs and restarting the game until finally one worked. even then it randomly stopped working mid game several times and i had to tab to restart it.

exclusives - i dont care if there's technically less of them. consoles and handhelds have the exclusives i want to be playing most of the time.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

You plug in an HDMI cable from your GFX to your TV. What exactly is tough about this?

Exactly, it's poets like the guy you quoted where I sit there thinking what in the hell, how is it tough to run an hdmi like from a Pc to a hdtv but it isn't to do the same from Ps4 to a TV, it's the same process lol

 

[Raonak]

PlayStation Exclusives. They tend to be the only games I'm really interested in these days. Heavy story focus is a huge plus for me. Just playing through FFXV, TLG and Gravity Rush 2 right now.

As a software & games developer, I don't mentally associate PC with gaming.
for me it's like a smartphone, where I do everything, but rarely game on it. When I do play, it's to play with my PC friends.

I do spend most of my time on PC programming stuff.


Also, I fucking HATE PC fanboys, they've pretty much poisoned the well for me.

 

[Tommi84]

Funny, because the word I would use for console gaming is "inflexible." As in, you're stuck with the game

PC defence force strikes, I see?

He tells you that he likes winter, because he can ski, and you reply that you can't swim in lake during winter. Why don't you comment on the fact, that you can't seel most (if not all) PC games nowadays, because they are tied to Steam/Origin or God knows what else?
On the consoles, I can sell all my disc-based games whenever I want and to whom I want. Unless, I can do that with all (or most) disc-based games on PC, I can't be bothered.

 

[Akronis]

I find it funny that repeatedly in this thread I have just repeated the argument posed to me, and then the person making that argument criticizes me for making the point. You were the one who said...

I was agreeing with the point that you made that there is a general difference in the types of games on PC and consoles. Therefore it is perfectly logical that people who prefer to play on consoles also prefer the types of games found on consoles. Now all of a sudden because I used your point against you, you want to act like you did not say it. Even more puzzling is that you want to pretend I originated it to claim fanboyism.

I know what I said, but I clearly didn't make my point more clear. That I apologize for.

The same type of exclusives can be found on PC. If people are looking for AAA games made by specific developers, stay with whatever platform they stay on.

 

[Killroyskbg]

And now that I'm a PC gamer I love to fiddle with my games to get the best experience and the prospect of upgrading is the most exciting thing in the world. The things that scared me off of the platform for so long are now the things that keep me coming back for more.

These are some of the main reasons I almost completely left PC gaming.

 

[HeatBoost]

My stance remains thus:

PC gaming is easier than it's ever been

And it's still not easy enough

I wouldn't play anything on PC (or more like, I wouldn't be able to, for technical reasons, except stuff that's 5+ years old) if I didn't have a friend who built one for me for a birthday present. As it stands I mostly use it to play older games and Overwatch. I don't get newly released AAA+ games on PC because it seems like even in a best case scenario, they're not running particularly well until a month or two later.

I think the PC's a great platform but it's not my thing. My thing is ease of use and Japanese games. Not mods, sales, or graphics tweaking.

 

[Phatosaurus]

I never understood the fact that people bring up ps+ or gold. It cost basically 5 dollars a month and you get multiple games each month. I've got games I have played more than ones I've bought full price.

Because it's a necessary cost to enable the PS4's full features and it's not a cost that applies to PC gaming.
Even neglecting that, the price between the two is still extremely close for me.

As for the "free" games, they've been largely worthless to me with the exception of Resogun at launch.
That said, there are alternatives to PS+ on the PC giving away free games for a monthly subscription.

HumbleBundle and EA Access. HB in particular is extremely good value as you can sub for just one month, get a game you really like and keep it after the subscription has ended.

 

[Mihos]

Why are seemingly so many folks concerned where others play their Videogames?

I don't think this is really the case, it is more about like if I said I hate Nintendo Games because God of War runs bad when I skype on my gamepad.

It is basically hearing a bunch of wrong, in some cases 'really' wrong things about some reasoning. At the end of the day, I don't think anyone really expects anyone to 'change over', but maybe at least get some common understanding or at least lose the dismissive attitudes on both sides.

 

[vato_loco]

Exactly, it's poets like the guy you quoted where I sit there thinking what in the hell, how is it tough to run an hdmi like from a Pc to a hdtv but it isn't to do the same from Ps4 to a TV, it's the same process lol

Already mentioned above that the way my game room is distributed, It'd be a less than ideal disposition to be playing in with a keyboard and a mouse. And if I had to be using a DS4, I might as well just play on the PS4 I already have plugged to the TV.

 

[Forsaken82]

I can't be bothered with installation problems, drivers etc. I just insert the disc in my console and play

The only thing you referenced that doesn't affect consoles also are Drivers, which rarely ever cause issues if you know what you are doing. I would also argue that console updates happen more frequently than driver updates. And In my experience, I have had more issues with System Updates for consoles than Driver updates... so i don't know maybe I know what I am doing and Sony and MS dont?

 

[Rbk_3]

I just don't know where to begin really. I have no idea which graphics card or motherboard or anything is better than the other, I don't understand the metrics they use to measure the capabilities of each, and I don't know how to put it together, upgrade specific parts, nor really want to find out with stuff that costs so much money. If I got a gaming PC, I'd want a good one, which means a lot of money off the bat.

I could do plenty of research and find out which parts are the best, save my money and pay a little extra to get it built for me, and then set up bluetooth and connect my Xbox or PlayStation controller so that I can game from my couch.

Or I could just play on console.

I didn't know shit myself, a few hours of research and I built a 2k machine all by myself just before Christmas. It was actually very simple.

 

[Budi]

How it is not working? Apparently a lot of people disagree with your notion of what work since it was voted pretty high on the Neogaf vote. Maybe it is personal preference?

It has very bad perfomance on a regular PS4 and that's not my opinion since I haven't played it. It's a reported fact. I have no doubts that it would still be a great game, I'd love to play it personally. But people are bringing up bad PC ports constantly, so it's good to remember that just because something is a console game it doesn't mean that it just works. Last Guardian benefits greatly from running it on a Pro.

 

[EGOMON]

I would list my reasons but I know I will be crucified and laughed at how backward I am so I will just say consoles can do gaming stuff faster and simpler
*runs to the shelter*

 

[AgentLampshade]

I just don't give enough of a shit. I don't want to check every game to see if my PC can handle it or check which graphics card to buy. I like the convenience of having a console that can run what's been announced for it.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Use a controller like you do on your console?

Using a controller alone doesn't cut it. You need a wireless keyboard w/ a touchpad or a mouse. It's one of my big complaints about gaming on a PC hooked up to a TV.

What it really comes down to is a PC still lacks as a seamless easy experience on a large screen TV compared to a console. There are still too many issues that creep up that just make it anything but a smooth experience.

The only thing you referenced that doesn't affect consoles also are Drivers, which rarely ever cause issues if you know what you are doing. I would also argue that console updates happen more frequently than driver updates. And In my experience, I have had more issues with System Updates for consoles than Driver updates... so i don't know maybe I know what I am doing and Sony and MS dont?

My consoles update while they're sleeping; my PC doesn't pull an update until I wake it from sleep. That's a big difference in itself on why consoles are better with updates.

 

[Conkerkid11]

I just don't give enough of a shit. I don't want to check every game to see if my PC can handle it or check which graphics card to buy. I like the convenience of having a console that can run what's been announced for it.

Your console can barely run the games announced for it.

Using a controller alone doesn't cut it. You need a wireless keyboard w/ a touchpad or a mouse. It's one of my big complaints about gaming on a PC hooked up to a TV.

What it really comes down to is a PC still lacks as a seamless easy experience on a large screen TV compared to a console. There are still too many issues that creep up that just make it anything but a smooth experience.

Why do you need a keyboard and mouse? I don't get it.

What issues are you talking about?

 

[Budi]

I would list my reasons but I know I will be crucified and laughed at how backward I am so I will just say consoles can do gaming stuff faster and simpler
*runs to the shelter*

Aaaw, don't be scared. We are all friends here, we all just love gaming.

 

[Killroyskbg]

It has very bad perfomance on a regular PS4 and that's not my opinion since I haven't played it. It's a reported fact.

So people here on gaf voted a not working game as the 6th most popular one in the whole year....

Yeah dude game was unplayable by that fact alone.

Edit: ahhh so it was in defence of PC gaming. Gottcha

 

[GamerJM]

(From 2003-2009) I don't anymore, but for a while I didn't because I didn't know Gamepads were widely supported on PC until around 2009 or so (were they even supported widely long before then?), and because playing games on PC always felt "off," to me as a kid, and whenever I went over to my friend's house to play PC games. In retrospect I'm pretty sure this is because both my childhood PC and my friend's PC were pieces of crap as far as gaming goes so games ran at low framerates.

(From 2009-2011) Also before I went to college I just used the family PC for everything, and if I got my own PC I figured if I were to go with a gaming PC I'd have to go all out, but doing that would cost 1000$ which was out of my budget. Eventually I just got a gaming laptop a little before I went to college.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Your console can barely run the games announced for it.

Good enough for me.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Why do you need a keyboard and mouse? I don't get it.

What issues are you talking about?

Well for starters, my Xbox 360 controller doesn't wake my PC from sleep. I need to hit a key on my keyboard in order to do so, or move the mouse. Then there's the issue when a game pops up a window before launching the game which is non controller interactive, so you need to pull out a mouse or keyboard to get by the interface. These are extremely common on PC games. Heck, off the top of my head, Hitman needs to get past a pop up before getting into the main game.

Something like this: