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[farisr]

I don't refuse to game on a PC, but I prefer consoles. It's mainly ease of use. And I say this as a person who mainly games in his room, with the console and PC (4770k + GTX 1060 6GB) both hooked up to the TV.

And while it doesn't happen all the time, when I want to game I don't want to deal with headaches that arise with PC gaming (unoptimized ports requiring a lot of tinkering, driver issues, controller connectivity issues, HDR not working etc).

However, if I'm aware of a multplatform game that is not performing at acceptable levels to me (and I'm very lenient in that regard), or it's a game I'd like to have mods for, I get it on PC.

I will say though, ease of use has gotten much better for PC compared to the past though. But it just hasn't gotten "console good" yet.

 

[GamerMax73]

I mean, the advantages of PC are pretty well documented.

Good post. However I'm not certain they are "advantages", it's very subjective whether you consider these advantages or hinderences, anyway here are my thoughts as someone who chooses to game on console:

• Full control over the performance and graphics tradeoffs you want to make.

I don't want full control. And these requirements wouldn't me necessary if it wasn't for the plethora or CPU/GPU/RAM/OS configurations available. The benefit of the console (PS4Pro/Scorpio accepted) is that devs have one set configuration to use their expertise to optimise to. I trust they know their game and vision better than I do.

• Full control over which input device you want to use, and how you want to use it.

An interesting idea and yet in 30+ years nobody as managed to improve upon the original Nintendo gamepad design save adding more buttons. The popularity of the DS4, XB1 Constroller and Steam Controller on PC says everything I need to know when it comes to this choice. Sitting on my sofa, 10ft from my tellybox, nothing works better than my trusted DS4.

• Perpetual forward- and backward compatibility.

As someone interested in playing the original Rome Total War on my Windows 10 laptop I can attest to how tenuous this claim is. PC backward compatibility is prone to just as many, if not worse, problems with OS and driver upgrades. At least on console it either works or (more than likely) doesn't. I suppose we need to discuss DosBox, QEmu and VirtualBox? Even then Win3.1/95/98 era can become a bit of an headache!

In short, you have a selling point, you're right, but you're also stretching the truth a little here. My PS3 however hasn't gone anywhere and plays all my PS3/1 games just fine. I also still have my XBox, which is softmodded, so you can guess the level of backwards compatibility there

• Access to third-party tools and mods which extend the customization and feature-set of games beyond what was envisioned by the original developers.

Well. This is more an hobbiest thing isn't it. I wouldn't call it an advantage. If anything it's one reason I could cite while I'd actively choose console. It's only an advantage if you really, really are interested in the modding scene. For everyone else it's safely ignored. Move along, nothing to see!

• A massive variety of options and form factors for your gaming hardware.

You have me here. But...it comes at a price. I like the USFF/NUC style, so let's take a £550 Alienware and compare it to a £350 PS4 Pro...Not fair? Top end Alienware could kick PS4Pro's butt? Probably, but how much does it cost? But I could build my own cheaper? So not only do I loose the advantages of a ready made system, but I now have to choose from larger chassis?

It's good having these options...if you want them and are interested in this sort of thing.

Or I could just buy a PS4/XB1 unbox it, plug in to the TV and get on with the serious business of playing games.

• If you want to go high-end you can get enthusiast-grade equipment and things like 144 Hz monitors.

Highlighted my point exactly.

• Very often, the first platform on which to experience new things in the gaming medium, because it's where most experimentation happens.

I don't want to be experimental - I want to play games.

• The largest and most diverse library of games.

Well this is true. It also means separating the wheat from the chaff. Gaming on PC reminds me of finding good games to play on iOS or Android. I assume you'd advocate mobile over Nintendo for portable gaming? Sure there's crap to to wade through on any platform. Just so happens to be less of it with a generally higher overall quality (subjective, my opinion, please ignore Black Tiger even exists) on console.

There's also the question of what platform the games you wan to play are released on. When Uncharted (please don't mention PS Now ) is available on PC, give me a call.

• Some genres which almost don't exist outside the platform -- e.g. grand strategy, management.

The best point you've made and one reason I do game a little on my laptop, if I'm being honest. You can't beat a good bit of Civilization. Revelations on PS3 comes close, but it's no Civ V and you're right, a mouse really is needed.

• Frequent and varied very cheap game bundles.
• A blooming third party reseller market for cheap game keys (I'm talking about the legitimate market here, e.g. GMG).
• Free online gaming and features such as ample cloud storage for save games.

Ah the economics of gaming. How much do we take in to account the initial purchase cost of the PC? Or the maintenance/upgrade costs over a given period of time? What about the console gamer, like me, that generally buys secondhand and trades in for credit towards the next game? Do PSN and XBox stores have sales and bundle deals? Especially for network subscribers?

I don't think the calculations are as cut and dry, black and white, or necessarily as one side as some like to make out.

If none of that is of sufficient interest to you, then sure, there is no reason to game on PC.

Ah, yes, exactly! Well Done! So you do get it! You understand!

 

[Rbk_3]

oh yeah I know, I was strictly talking about resolution there

and I meant that as a PC gamer first, I just bought a 1070 because my 670 was trailing and I got a bonus at work, but I was still way ok with playing most games on medium or high at 30 fps

I can understand the thinking that 30fps is fine, like I never had any issues as a console gamer prior to last year with GTA V on the PS4. But once you go to 60 for everything, it really is hard to go back. On my 1080 I can get GTA V in 4K at 60hz. After that, the PS4 version feels damn near unplayable.

 

[joecanada]

I'm sorry, but I just don't even know where to begin with this because you're exhibiting the exact sort of mentality right now that I've been taking issue with.

Console 'persistant exclusives' are worth noting as a strength of that platform's library. Uncharted, Last of Us, God of War! No brainer mainstream classics, right? Meanwhile, the swath of entire genres (much less storied franchises) that only exist on PC, and a smattering of games there that exhibit more actual mainstream appeal than AAA shooters, aren't worth considering, and as such, "PC exclusives are becoming increasingly sparce". As though there's not an image floating around this very thread that pretty effortlessly communicates how untrue that actually is. Which is why that unspoken qualifier exists in the first place in these discussions. The PC has a massive library of exclusives, and games in general, that somehow don't get to matter because they aren't a 1:1 match to the handful of AAA action games that get to define and represent the libraries of console platforms.
Uncharted 4 was wonderful. but Civilization 6? I've already put more time into Civ 6 than any of you will put into Uncharted 4. And I'm going to continue playing Civilization 6 until Civilization 7 comes out. And yet, in these sorts of discussions, Uncharted 4 is the kind of game that matters, and Civilization 6 isn't.

While there's nothing wrong with your point nothing changes that people will buy halo and uncharted in droves , 10 millions or more ... So if people want those it will drive sales. Also your point about playing civ6 until 7 comes out is easily applied to say uncharted . Someone could be equally happy playing uc4 until tlou 2.

For example I played bf4 probably all of 2015 on my ps4 and had no desire for any other platform or game at the time.

One thing about pc games that I see come up fairly often is that PC crowd often loves a vast array of games including older ones. But many people don't care about older games at all. Like I bought stalker series and I was like huh yeah this would be cool if.... But some outdated features kind of made it meh for me. So a console does a pretty damn good job of just hitting those top 10 that the mainstream wants. Halo, cod, bf, FIFA, etc still sells machines. I browse steam sales monthly and I've bought maybe 6 games this past year and I only play one (elite dangerous). Plan on getting bf1 because of a friend but I actually want it on ps4 honestly.

I should add disclaimer though that I game share on ps4 so obviously that matters.

 

[Nintenyearold]

For me, my tastes just happen to line up better with what is found on Sony and Nintendo's consoles. If Japanese 3rd party output reached parity between PS and PC, I could see myself making the switch next console cycle.

Its not even a huge number of games holding me onto consoles. For last year, 7 of my top 10 were available on PC, and all of my top 5. There are just certain major Japanese series (Yakuza, Persona), and a few Sony/Nintendo franchises, that I carre more about than the PC games I miss out on.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

No space for a desktop in my home. No desire to build another rig when my macbook/iphone handles all of my computing needs.

 

[jacobs34]

I'm currently trying to sell my 2015 iMac to get the funds I need for a viable 4K gaming PC.

 

[MutFox]

I don't want to be experimental - I want to play games.

You are playing games... The future of gaming.
I was playing online games almost a decade before consoles even attempted online gaming...

This was actually before the internet was a full blown thing.
Was playing on BBS's, Doom was amazing.

 

[Devast8nDiscoDave81]

Ah, yes, exactly! Well Done! So you do get it! You understand!

I just have to LOL at your entire post. This is some next level mental gymnastics. It's sad and funny to see such blind fanboyism.

 

[Rezae]

I bounce back and forth on this a lot... my current stance:

I'm by a PC all day at work. I don't want to be at a desk at home. At all. Currently my TV is close to my PC. Sometimes I switch screens. Often I get incredible screen tearing on my TV (both screens are 1080, 60v120hz). I often have to mess with settings under video output, sometimes adjust within individual games, change settings - and all of this is often by sitting at the desk or hovering over it... Oh and my PC is over 6 years old with a few modest upgrades. At this point I'd have to shell out $600+ to get it where it should be.

Or I just pick up my PS4 controller off my coffee table in front of my couch, and turn it on, and play.

I have a massive Steam collection, and love how more games are coming to PC. I won't pretend to argue it's technical superiority, the number of exclusives (personally I'm not a huge fan of popular PC genres as they often require you to be using m/kb at a desk), the BC, etc...

But sometimes I just want to plop on my couch, turn on my PS4, and play. No settings. No troubleshooting. No worrying about mouse users in shooters. Plenty of Japanese games (it's great that more are coming to PC).

5 years ago I was all over PC superiority. It's in a better position now than then. However MY situation is different as I've gotten older, and I just want to plop and play with my limited time.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

You are playing games... The future of gaming.
I was playing online games almost a decade before consoles even attempted online gaming...

This was actually before the internet was a full blown thing.
Was playing on BBS's, Doom was amazing.

Well that isnt quite as true now, the gap in pc and consoles are not that far apart in capacity as they once were. the only major difference now is the os.... they are all pcs with the relatively same related internals.

 

[kunonabi]

Don't have a computer that can run anything(I wanted to play Night Cry and it couldn't even do that)

Don't have the hard drive space even if it could.

Don't have the money or the space to buy a new laptop or desktop.

Too many times have I had a game work fine one week and then refuse to run the next.

Controllers are the same problem. I had a program that worked fine but then it stopped working with the new windows and I refuse to redownload it because it costs money now

I hate playing on laptop screens and connecting it to a TV is too much of a hassle.

PC gaming remains a gigantic hassle for me despite claims that it's so much easier than it used to be.

 

[kikonawa]

What is this. Every month the same thread?

 

[Guardian Monkey]

What is this. Every month the same thread?

Month? Year? Day? yes

 

[kikonawa]

Ok yes

 

[FelixFFM]

I have both consoles and a high end PC and the biggest problem with PCs for me is that I have to sit at a desk. Period.
I can connect it to my TV, but then a lot of PC-specific advantages get thrown out the window, namely:

- KB&M controls
- my ultrawide 1440p g-sync monitor
- more than 60fps

Also, yes, the selection of games is greater, but it helps if you REALLY like indies or low-budget games. Which runs antithetical to the technical superiority of PC hardware and what you can do with it.

AAA is just a console domain, fact of life, unfortunately. The much-touted superiority of the PC hardware remain a theoretical advantage. What good is a Titan X and a Vive if you can't play RE7 on it?

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I spend most my day on a computer and the last thing I want to do is sit down at a computer when I get home.

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

I prefer PC for fps. Console is fine for everything else. If I could use kbm on Ps4 without 6 wires and a xim I would be in love. Talk about tweaking? Buy a xim.

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

I play everything at a desk on a 24" monitor either way. Except for the wii with my kids.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Good post. However I'm not certain they are "advantages", it's very subjective whether you consider these advantages or hinderences, anyway here are my thoughts as someone who chooses to game on console:

I don't want full control. And these requirements wouldn't me necessary if it wasn't for the plethora or CPU/GPU/RAM/OS configurations available. The benefit of the console (PS4Pro/Scorpio accepted) is that devs have one set configuration to use their expertise to optimise to. I trust they know their game and vision better than I do.

An interesting idea and yet in 30+ years nobody as managed to improve upon the original Nintendo gamepad design save adding more buttons. The popularity of the DS4, XB1 Constroller and Steam Controller on PC says everything I need to know when it comes to this choice. Sitting on my sofa, 10ft from my tellybox, nothing works better than my trusted DS4.

As someone interested in playing the original Rome Total War on my Windows 10 laptop I can attest to how tenuous this claim is. PC backward compatibility is prone to just as many, if not worse, problems with OS and driver upgrades. At least on console it either works or (more than likely) doesn't. I suppose we need to discuss DosBox, QEmu and VirtualBox? Even then Win3.1/95/98 era can become a bit of an headache!

In short, you have a selling point, you're right, but you're also stretching the truth a little here. My PS3 however hasn't gone anywhere and plays all my PS3/1 games just fine. I also still have my XBox, which is softmodded, so you can guess the level of backwards compatibility there

Well. This is more an hobbiest thing isn't it. I wouldn't call it an advantage. If anything it's one reason I could cite while I'd actively choose console. It's only an advantage if you really, really are interested in the modding scene. For everyone else it's safely ignored. Move along, nothing to see!

You have me here. But...it comes at a price. I like the USFF/NUC style, so let's take a £550 Alienware and compare it to a £350 PS4 Pro...Not fair? Top end Alienware could kick PS4Pro's butt? Probably, but how much does it cost? But I could build my own cheaper? So not only do I loose the advantages of a ready made system, but I now have to choose from larger chassis?

It's good having these options...if you want them and are interested in this sort of thing.

Or I could just buy a PS4/XB1 unbox it, plug in to the TV and get on with the serious business of playing games.

Highlighted my point exactly.

I don't want to be experimental - I want to play games.

Well this is true. It also means separating the wheat from the chaff. Gaming on PC reminds me of finding good games to play on iOS or Android. I assume you'd advocate mobile over Nintendo for portable gaming? Sure there's crap to to wade through on any platform. Just so happens to be less of it with a generally higher overall quality (subjective, my opinion, please ignore Black Tiger even exists) on console.

There's also the question of what platform the games you wan to play are released on. When Uncharted (please don't mention PS Now ) is available on PC, give me a call.

The best point you've made and one reason I do game a little on my laptop, if I'm being honest. You can't beat a good bit of Civilization. Revelations on PS3 comes close, but it's no Civ V and you're right, a mouse really is needed.

Ah the economics of gaming. How much do we take in to account the initial purchase cost of the PC? Or the maintenance/upgrade costs over a given period of time? What about the console gamer, like me, that generally buys secondhand and trades in for credit towards the next game? Do PSN and XBox stores have sales and bundle deals? Especially for network subscribers?

I don't think the calculations are as cut and dry, black and white, or necessarily as one side as some like to make out.

Ah, yes, exactly! Well Done! So you do get it! You understand!

I was halfway through typing a really long rebuttal to you before I got fed up with your shit. You're out of your depth on this subject, I mean you spend this entire post making tenuous arguments in a transparent attempt to deny PC gaming any innate advantages at all. You call his entire list, some of which are truly unique and powerful benefits to using PC as a platform, "potential hindrances", downplaying them with rebuttals that sometimes don't even make sense at all, while we're expected to celebrate every advantage that consoles have ever had, no matter how trivial or mundane. And I can't tell if you're being intentionally condescending throughout but it's pretty damn irksome because your arguments certainly don't back that up

"The fact that you can use any controller I like from the modern era on my PC isn't relevant because DS4 is the best"
"The fact that you can play thousands of games you might have bought over the last 20 years easily in a few clicks, isn't relevant because a minority of old games that can't possibly be played elsewhere require tweaks or third party tools to be played on hardware 10 to 20 years from the future"
"The fact that you can tweak the games you own and reap the benefits of time and advancing hardware isn't relevant because I don't think it is"
"The fact that experimentation in design often takes place on PC isn't relevant because literally no reason at all"

Honestly I felt like I was taking crazy pills reading your post.

 

[joecanada]

I see some people mentioning laptops and phones as reasons not to have a gaming pc which brings up a good point which I can also attest to..... I think the necessity to actually have a pc for other stuff has been greatly diminished in recent years.

Like I just got a new pc this year but before that I hadn't owned a pc in probably 15 years or more. I had used ps3 and phone for web browsing, had a couple cheap laptops just hand-me-downs, whatever.

I'd be interested to know how many younger people like millenials actually buy pc's now and if this market itself is in decline and being replaced by phones, tablets, mini laptops, etc...

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

I certainly dont refuse, but I don't play on PC much. This is going to all sound dumb and lazy and it probably is. I don't care. Here's the facts.

It doesn't hook up to my TV normally like a console does. Even when i want to do that I have to move it and find an extra HDMI cable lying around which I dont have to do with a console. Also I'm completely ignorant about the controller situation. Can I use a DS4? I think I can but how? Does it work for every game? I just dont know and dont take the time to mess with it.

Same deal when I hook it up via HDMI and then close the lid on my computer. I don't want it to go to sleep/shut down when I fucking do that. I just don't want to see the screen twice is all. How do I fix that? Probably with a simple google search. That still means I have to change a setting each time I want it to do something different. My laptop should instead simply do nothing when I close it with an HDMI cable attached.

Very basically it's the ease of use.

 

[SuperSah]

Probably just the cost for me.

 

[farisr]

I'd be interested to know how many younger people like millenials actually buy pc's now and if this market itself is in decline and being replaced by phones, tablets, mini laptops, etc...

Anecdotally, I'm the only one out of my group of friends who has a desktop PC. Out of everyone I know (friends, acquaintances, family friends etc) there are only three of us that have one.

Vast majority have at least one laptop at home. Tablets are quite common as well, especially for kids. Pretty much everyone has a smartphone.

 

[skny]

God, this thread is cringe-worthy.

 

[SwolBro]

Fact that only a few games maintain a population. Most games come and go. If it's not a PC staple it survives for a month or so and then poof population gone.

 

[TaterTots]

I see these threads kind of frequently and one thing never changes; some people talk about PC gaming like it's 1998 still. Things have changed a lot.

Don't wanna sit at a desk? Small form PC for the living room or Steam Link.
Prefer the use of a controller? Wireless controllers work.
Don't wanna tinker with your game settings? Let GeForce Experience optimize your games.
Worried about drivers? See above.

There is nothing wrong with simply preferring to game on console, but just say it. No reason to throw out a outdated excuse in the process lol.

 

[Lister]

AAA is just a console domain, fact of life, unfortunately. The much-touted superiority of the PC hardware remain a theoretical advantage. What good is a Titan X and a Vive if you can't play RE7 on it?

Huh? I'll be playing RE7 on my PC tonight with higher graphics settings and better performance than I ever could on a PS4 (or Pro), and at Ultra wide 21:9 to boot!

Do you mean the VR version? I'd rather wait and play the superior VR version on PC than settle for PSVR's lower specs and terribly variant and finicky tracking tech. IT does suck that the publisher got money hatted by Sony though.

Good post. However I'm not certain they are "advantages", it's very subjective whether you consider these advantages or hinderences, anyway here are my thoughts as someone who chooses to game on console:

...

ANGULAR GRAPHX!!!!


...

There, fixed it for you. Although your goal here was quite transparent, I've simplified it a bit further so that your intention is now fully evident.

For example, this guy saw right through you:

I was halfway through typing a really long rebuttal to you before I got fed up with your shit. You're out of your depth on this subject, I mean you spend this entire post making the absolute most tenuous arguments, in an awfully transparent attempt to deny PC gaming any innate advantages at all. You call his entire list, some of which are truly unique and powerful benefits to using PC as a platform, "potential hindrances", downplaying them with rebuttals that sometimes don't even make sense at all, while we're expected to celebrate every advantage that consoles have ever had, no matter how trivial or mundane. And I can't tell if you're being intentionally condescending throughout but it's pretty damn irksome because your arguments certainly don't back that shit up

"The fact that you can use any controller I like from the modern era on my PC isn't relevant because DS4 is the best"
"The fact that you can play thousands of games I might have bought over the last 20 years easily in a few clicks, isn't relevant because a minority of old games that can't possibly be played elsewhere require tweaks or third party tools to be played on hardware 10 to 20 years from the future"
"The fact that you can tweak the games you own and reap the benefits of time and advancing hardware isn't relevant because I don't think it is"
"The fact that experimentation in design often takes place on PC isn't relevant because literally no reason at all"

Honestly I felt like I was taking crazy pills reading your post

Crazy pills indeed.

Anecdotally, I'm the only one out of my group of friends who has a desktop PC. Out of everyone I know (friends, acquaintances, family friends etc) there are only three of us that have one.

Vast majority have at least one laptop at home. Tablets are quite common as well, especially for kids. Pretty much everyone has a smartphone.

While the overall PC desktop market IS shrinking (although you should keep in mind that that market still ships more units in a single QUARTER than a console manufacturer shifts consoles for most of a console's ENTIRE lifecycle - the PC desktop market it's still a behemoth compared to consoles) the ENTHUSIAST PC gaming market continues to grow. In fact it just hit record numbers last year.

In other words, the overall mainstream desktop market has no impact on the PC gaming market. PC gaming continues to grow year over year, and that's despite no huge corporation spending billions in marketing and subsidizing and moneyhatting devs for exclusive content.

Just purely on word of mouth and how fuckign awesome the platform is.

 

[TaterTots]

Fact that only a few games maintain a population. Most games come and go. If it's not a PC staple it survives for a month or so and then poof population gone.

It's the opposite for me. From my experience, console players tend to move on to the next big title.

 

[FelixFFM]

Huh? I'll be playing RE7 on my PC tonight with higher graphics settings and better performance than I ever could on a PS4 (or Pro), and at Ultra wide 21:9 to boot!

Not in VR you don't.
Edit: Also not in ultrawide.

 

[Lister]

Not in VR you don't.
Edit: Also not in ultrawide.

You have broken my heart sir.

I guess I'll just have to play it on my 16:9 TV like every other fool... atleast until a mod or the devs fixes it!

 

[GamerMax73]

There, fixed it for you. Although your goal here was quite transparent, I've simplified it a bit further so that your intention is now fully evident.

For example, this guy saw right through you:



Crazy pills indeed

Thank you all.

I like controversial posts sometimes. They can expose when people are putting fingers in their and responding to what they think was written with complete non arguments like "crazy pills".

Mmmm.

I'm not stopping anyone gaming on PC or denying that for some their are features of the platform that attract them to it.

What is interesting is the hubris being demonstrated from the PC community in the believe that there's are the one true gaming platform superior to all others. Elitism in deed.

The simple truth is, aside from a reference to some strategy games, there was nothing on that list that made me want to dump my console in the recycle bin and buy a gaming PC. I do not see the error of my ways.

It's not fanboyism (a sad cleched term that gets banded around to avoid rational debate), it personal rational choice. I prefer gaming on console. It really is that simple.

Now please tell me what on my reply was completely off the rails?

 

[Devast8nDiscoDave81]

Not in VR you don't.

Oh really?

https://www.twitch.tv/theonlykingofgames/v/116836686

 

[Devast8nDiscoDave81]

Thank you all.



I'm not stopping anyone gaming on PC or denying that for some their are features of the platform that attract them to it.

LMAO that's exactly what you did. If you were to list advantages and disadvantages of both platforms the PC has so much more to offer. Consoles have ZERO advantages over a PC. Your complete fanboyism oh sorry PERSONAL CHOICE made you completely disregard Durante's entire list.

List a single advantage a console has over PC which isn't completely outdated and false.

 

[thefil]

List a single advantage a console has over PC which isn't completely outdated and false.

From purchase, it can be plugged in, turned on, and used with (at most) only WiFi configuration. Any game with the console logo printed on the box will run on it, and that game can then be lent to a friend.

I play 99% on PC and even I acknowledge that consoles have these advantages, and many others.

 

[GamerMax73]

LMAO that's exactly what you did. If you were to list advantages and disadvantages of both platforms the PC has so much more to offer. Consoles have ZERO advantages over a PC. Your complete fanboyism oh sorry PERSONAL CHOICE made you completely disregard Durante's entire list.

List a single advantage a console has over PC which isn't completely outdated and false.

And there it is again. Come now. You are insisting that those advantages must speak to everyone equally. Who should be accusing who of fanboyism?

I didn't say DS4 is the best, I said I prefer DS4. What I said, was in my opinion, no one has improved on the gamepad as a gaming device.

I didn't say backwards compatibility wasn't a strong selling point. I said its not without it problems, it's overplayed. And old consoles still function.

I didn't write off modding as an advantage. I pointed out it wasn't an important selling point for everyone.

Rather than make accusations of fanboyism, crazy pills, or whatever, how about reading what was written and try to understand it from the opposing view point.

You asked for 1, I'll give you 2, advantages of console from my point of view...

Far quicker and easier to set up out of the box. Yes PCs aren't difficult to setup, sure, but they are still not that streamlined an experience out of the box.

Every game I purchase will play. There are no minimum specs. There is one spec. I'm aware that comes at a price in terms of graphical fedility compared to top end PC, but that's a price I choose to accept for the convience if this benefit.

Again complete hubris to assume one platform is better than another and consoles have nothing of value to offer the gamer.

 

[dogen]

Thank you all.

I like controversial posts sometimes. They can expose when people are putting fingers in their and responding to what they think was written with complete non arguments like "crazy pills".

Mmmm.

I'm not stopping anyone gaming on PC or denying that for some their are features of the platform that attract them to it.

What is interesting is the hubris being demonstrated from the PC community in the believe that there's are the one true gaming platform superior to all others. Elitism in deed.

The simple truth is, aside from a reference to some strategy games, there was nothing on that list that made me want to dump my console in the recycle bin and buy a gaming PC. I do not see the error of my ways.

It's not fanboyism (a sad cleched term that gets banded around to avoid rational debate), it personal rational choice. I prefer gaming on console. It really is that simple.

Now please tell me what on my reply was completely off the rails?

lol at people attacking your post saying you're a fanboy, when most of your points were completely fair. If anything we now know who the real fanboys are here.

 

[univbee]

List a single advantage a console has over PC which isn't completely outdated and false.

Price of hardware and software in Canada and many other non-US territories.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

- Consoles usually get "priority" treatment for a game. A lot falls under this umbrella, including releasing first on console, shitty ports (there are also shitty PC->console ports but that seems rarer especially among more serious titles), more likely to have unresolved bugs etc. (see: Batman Arkham Knight).

The funny thing here is that PC is nowadays by far the best platform to play Batman: AK on.

Not to say it wasn't a terrible port during the launch but that was all on WB Games.

 

[FelixFFM]

Oh really?

https://www.twitch.tv/theonlykingofgames/v/116836686

Is that a real headtracking implementation? It looks like it just translates head rotation into joystick input. The horizon stays always level.

 

[AmFreak]

Price of hardware and software in Canada and many other non-US territories.

Software i doubt and hardware falls apart the moment you factor in the online fee.

 

[univbee]

Software i doubt and hardware falls apart the moment you factor in the online fee.

Cheapest I can get a gaming-capable PC for here is about $750CAD + tax, which after taxes is around $300 more than a PS4 Pro, so 4 years and change of PS+ if I pay full price for PS+. And this is with a Geforce 1050 so not exactly a massive 4k 60fps system.

For games here's my receipt for Resident Evil 7 on PS4.

That's about $44 USD. If you can find me a PC copy for that price after taxes I'm all ears.

Outside of the US, game prices are kind of out of wack for digital copies, and by extension almost all PC games, while prices of retail copies can be substantially cheaper. Even for the few games which get retail PC releases, they don't often get the same discounts due to being perceived as a niche product. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

 

[joms5]

Ah, yes, exactly! Well Done! So you do get it! You understand!

The only thing a lot of us understand by your post is you're so blind in your conviction against PC gaming that you will tell yourself anything, even when it's a fallacy, to try and validate your own point.

You talk about how you've softmodded your Xbox for backwards compatibility (which isn't "backwards compatibility" you know), and then in the next paragraph talk about how modding is hobbyist...

Engaging with you must be exhausting.

 

[MutFox]

For games here's my receipt for Resident Evil 7 on PS4.

That's about $44 USD. If you can find me a PC copy for that price after taxes I'm all ears.

Go on CDkeys, it's about the same.
Just a bit more and you can get the deluxe version.

Oh yeah, that should include taxes...
So cheaper...

 

[Shivershorts]

After all the "not this shit again" posts, it's sad to see how far this thread has gone.

This is seriously some Chevy VS Ford type of stuff. It doesn't matter. Drive whatever you want. If console gamers eventually decide the advantages of PCs are worth building a rig, they'll do it. If PC gamers eventually decide they want to switch over to the simpler experience of consoles, they'll do it. Or they'll just game on both if they can afford it. It's fine. You're fine. We're all fine.

 

[Swarna]

That's about $44 USD. If you can find me a PC copy for that price after taxes I'm all ears.

I'll disagree on the cost situation being different in Canada than in the US. It's really the same. Pro is $500.

50 Canadian.
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/resident-evil-7-biohazard-pc-steam-cd-key

Full price games are regularly sub-50 before and during the launch period even in Canadian currency.

Also, $700 Canadian should get you better specs than the Pro. ATLEAST a 1060, which is above the GPU in the pro. I just slapped this together in 30 seconds.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wpkyQV

For 50 more you can get the 6GB version.

I'll agree that you're gonna be paying more for any kind of gaming PC with brand new parts but you're also getting more horsepower so it's not a 1:1 comparison. Trying to match Pro specs 1:1 will probably fall in the 500-600 range sans OS and peripherals. No extra sub fees beyond that, though.

Really, though, if you're into PC gaming and already have peripherals and OS covered, upgrading a few components every couple of years is pretty cheap. Imagine someone coming in with a i5 2500k from last gen. The gtx 1070 at $510 canadian, more than twice as powerful as what's in the pro, is gonna be the far better deal.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

For games here's my receipt for Resident Evil 7 on PS4.

That's about $44 USD. If you can find me a PC copy for that price after taxes I'm all ears..

Eeeh I'll bite.

My copy, from a legit storefront GMG, preorder on Dec. 20, key shipped instantly unlike shady gray market crapshoots:

 

[Nzyme32]

Cheapest I can get a gaming-capable PC for here is about $750CAD + tax, which after taxes is around $300 more than a PS4 Pro, so 4 years and change of PS+ if I pay full price for PS+. And this is with a Geforce 1050 so not exactly a massive 4k 60fps system.

For games here's my receipt for Resident Evil 7 on PS4.

That's about $44 USD. If you can find me a PC copy for that price after taxes I'm all ears.

Outside of the US, game prices are kind of out of wack for digital copies, and by extension almost all PC games, while prices of retail copies can be substantially cheaper. Even for the few games which get retail PC releases, they don't often get the same discounts due to being perceived as a niche product. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

£29.99 at Gamersgate - which is $37.90 - and yes Gamersgate are legit

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

After all the "not this shit again" posts, it's sad to see how far this thread has gone.

This is seriously some Chevy VS Ford type of stuff. It doesn't matter. Drive whatever you want. If console gamers eventually decide the advantages of PCs are worth building a rig, they'll do it. If PC gamers eventually decide they want to switch over to the simpler experience of consoles, they'll do it. Or they'll just game on both if they can afford it. It's fine. You're fine. We're all fine.

I think it's been an entertaining conversation tbh, I've enjoyed it. I think forums always do well with good ol conversations that get everyone chiming in

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Digital only.