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Thirty7ven
Banned
What do you mean?
BlueLyria
Member
Ronin is Third Party though, but fair enough on Helldivers 2, it was early on the show and I forgot about it
Varteras
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
bender
What time is it?
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Gif battle is really heating up lol
ReBurn
Gold Member
It's more interesting than the battles we usually get.
Woopah
Member
Both Helldivers and Ronin are published by Sony (at least in the West, its self published in Japan). So its first party like Nioh for Sony or Fire Emblem Warriors for Nintendo.
LordCBH
Member
Been hearing this since 2002. Has yet to happen.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Thinking PS5 becomes the defacto console choice in the US and UK? Already there in rest of world. Extended sales of Series X at $350 to try and keep NPD numbers up to avoid total bloodbath? Yes PS5 was on sale for $350 for target red circle members but far more limited in scale/duration.
AGRacing
Member
Sony's own previously set high bars are the problem. They are no where NEAR those heights right now. The idea that what you just listed was a 'good showing' in a year without an E3 AND in the 3rd year of the product life is kind of nuts. Last of Us 2 Remastered is our next big thing. I'm not interested. The only reason it's 'good enough' is because their competition can't find their footing either. Sad excuse.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Switch 2 and PS5 Pro come out next year. They'll crowd out whatever market remains for Xbox Series. There are no major games coming out before GTA6 that are going to change that momentum in favor of the Xbox, when GTA6 comes out the place to play it will be on the PS5 Pro. It's going to be Hogwarts Legacy on steroids.
People who make their livelihoods off the console war are getting nervous because they know the market for the Switch 2 and PS5 are likely to remain separate.
I'm not sure how Microsoft takes the coming reduction in market share into the decision to make another console after this.
I can see at the end of the generation PS5 at 120-140 million units and XBS at 30-40 million units. Another generation with this direction, and the next Xbox will sell 15-25 million units. Not sure that will ultimately maintain 3rd party support and exclusives are entirely off the table.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Forbes continues to slide down that slope of irrelevance....
Gow DLC and it being free won that night.
Gow DLC and it being free won that night.
I'm assuming it work on the ps plus extra version.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Huh?
"As fans of our fans, we’re thrilled to announce that on December 12*, we’ll be releasing a free DLC as a gift to our players – God of War Ragnarök: Valhalla."
God of War Ragnarök: Valhalla DLC revealed, coming December 12
The free content features an unraveling and replayable adventure with unique twists inspired by the roguelite genre.
blog.playstation.com
Yoboman
Member
Ronin is third party but Kojima isn't?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No it isn't
bender
What time is it?
DryvBy
Gold Member
I know a guy that swears he loves Hellblade and it's so deep and spoke to him. He played it on Xbox after MS bought them. I checked his stats, he has one achievement and 1 hour of gameplay.
So deep. So good.
Hellblade sucks. I hated I bought it when it launched. Mental game for mental people.
3liteDragon
Member
Hey when you're that desperate for any sort of win given how the gen's been going so far, it's understandable.
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semiconscious
Member
'but now, thanks to forbes, you can!...
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
To be honest, the article isn't especially horrible, but its full of dubious "facts" and observations.
My main issue is the lack of addressing the fact that the main thing MS is pushing right now is GamePass, not Xbox. That's a very important distinction, especially when comparing with Sony and Nintendo who are 100% committed to the console model.
Watch the branding MS uses (Xbox, or GamePass, or just MIcrosoft Game Studios) on a game-by-game basis, because that's going to be very instructive going forwards. In my opinion anyway!
My main issue is the lack of addressing the fact that the main thing MS is pushing right now is GamePass, not Xbox. That's a very important distinction, especially when comparing with Sony and Nintendo who are 100% committed to the console model.
Watch the branding MS uses (Xbox, or GamePass, or just MIcrosoft Game Studios) on a game-by-game basis, because that's going to be very instructive going forwards. In my opinion anyway!
HawarMiran
Banned
Sony is winning so hard they said 'we will reveal our ace by the end of the generation'
Woopah
Member
I would definitely agree that their 2023 showcase wasn't as good as some of their previous E3 shows.
But just looking at what they do at the game awards, it was good this week. In the third year of the PS4, their game awards showing was a Death Stranding trailer.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Xbox has literally the worst fanboys in games media yet they're quick to decry fanboyism. I mean how many times do we have to read an article or hear from windows central, Forbes, ign/ destin or ryan McCaffery, digital foundry and so on carrying Xbox’s water and minimizing PlayStation quite frankly it's embarrassing because it hasn't worked. I can see when random twitter warriors do it but this shit is institutional for a brand that majority of the consumers roundly reject...furthermore more, Sega won 
cripterion
Member
Why would Sony or MS need to win anything? It's not even the point of the show.
All these shitty takes from journalists, devs, hurt fanboys, damn!
All these shitty takes from journalists, devs, hurt fanboys, damn!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Thing is Sony got exclusives like FFVIIR2, Rise of the Ronin and others coming fairly soon.
What does Microsoft has there launching 1st half next year other then Hellblade 2. Which is not a game that will push console sales or even GamePass sales as this is mostly going to play to existing audience.
Sony’s roadmap is sparse and it’s kind of weird, but they have 3rd parties carrying them without having to buy up studios. We will see in a year but they need to start actually releasing good games.
Starfield was meh. I really hope Avowed hits but I have my doubts after last reveal. Maybe Fable? Is that 2025?
Blade is probably not coming out for several years so it’s pointless to even speculate on that.
What does Microsoft has there launching 1st half next year other then Hellblade 2. Which is not a game that will push console sales or even GamePass sales as this is mostly going to play to existing audience.
Sony’s roadmap is sparse and it’s kind of weird, but they have 3rd parties carrying them without having to buy up studios. We will see in a year but they need to start actually releasing good games.
Starfield was meh. I really hope Avowed hits but I have my doubts after last reveal. Maybe Fable? Is that 2025?
Blade is probably not coming out for several years so it’s pointless to even speculate on that.
Klayzer
Member
Plus, half of this board has turned into COD fanboys overnight. I wonder why.Why would Sony or MS need to win anything? It's not even the point of the show.
All these shitty takes from journalists, devs, hurt fanboys, damn!
Unknown?
Member
But most of those gaas games aren't announced either.
Crayon
Member
(not putting you on the spot personally, I just need an example)
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It sounds like a cult sometimes, right?
BlueLyria
Member
I thought the first Helldivers was made by a internal studios, not just published
There's a difference between a partnership and internal studios, Which is why I only brought up Blade in my original post.
I don't know if Ronin is a Bloodborne situation or not.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Xbox showed up at TGA, and we still don't know what their next game is and when it's releasing.
Not sure what counts as "win" anymore.
Not sure what counts as "win" anymore.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Sony still ended up showing more exclusive content for PS5 players at TGA. More specifically, content with release dates, launching very, very soon:
- FF16 DLC #1 (available now)
- God of War Ragnarok Valhalla (available Dec. 12)
- Helldivers 2 (February)
- Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (February)
- Rise of the Ronin (March)
- Final Fantasy 16 DLC #2 (Spring)
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I mean, I keep hearing that the media hates Xbox, and that the Xbox Tax boogeyman is always trying to destroy the brand.
So, this headline must be fake or some Xbox shill trying to build a narrative that is literally impossible to exist—in other words, an opinion that is not grounded in reality
Taur007
Member
That's cause there is no real plan this time, they're going game by game, and most of those gaas games are probably just not it so now they're stuck
No that's SonyXbox has literally the worst fanboys in games media yet they're quick to decry fanboyism. I mean how many times do we have to read an article or hear from windows central, Forbes, ign/ destin or ryan McCaffery, digital foundry and so on carrying Xbox’s water and minimizing PlayStation quite frankly it's embarrassing because it hasn't worked. I can see when random twitter warriors do it but this shit is institutional for a brand that majority of the consumers roundly reject...furthermore more, Sega won
at least MS fanboys call them out when they're doing wrong for example the Xbox gold price hike just for them to reverse it or the employees free gamepass debacle and they reversed it, Sony fans think Sony does nothin wrong and just bootlick day in and day out and support dumb shit like PAYING additional for your PS5 slim stand.
Sorcerer
Member
If I recall, Phil had referred to BG3 as "Stadia second run" . Maybe Larian not mentioning it out for Xbox was just a little Karma coming Phil's way.
Anyway Starfield did not get the award,and neither did Spider-Man. Larian must be over the moon, triumphing over 2 huge first party games.
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Jigsaah
Member
I'm not one to downplay. It was a good showing for Xbox. Hellblade looks pretty good. The Blade announcement, though fraught with speculation on it's exclusivity is exciting nonetheless and it does mark the first Marvel franchise Xbox folks could be excited about in a long time. Sony revealed 2 DLC's but no new games from it's first party, or updates to announced games. My intuition says Sony decided not to share the spot light. They've bowed out of pretty much every game event and preferred to show their games in a State of Play. No doubt we see Wolverine next year, maybe by Summer...hopefully sooner. Though I'm not really sure what else is coming for Playstation in 2024.
If someone knows, remind me please.
If someone knows, remind me please.
gothmog
Gold Member
I think both Sony and Nintendo have both bowed out. They both have nothing to prove at this point and can generate their own hype cycles.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I turned it off during the Hellblade music performance. I couldn’t sit through it.
