xenorevlis
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The screen he posted is from GT5 Prologue. I've raced on it hundreds of times.SeaOfMadness said:
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Annnd I read that. And the comment I made about their damage section is still relevant, if not more so. They have no idea damage is coming to GT5, that it was included in GamesCom, meaning that they did no research about the game, that they have no reason to say they are a GT fan.KHarvey16 said:
SeaOfMadness
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LiquidMetal14 said:
from screenshots? or from actually playing the 2 games side by side?
there's no question many screenshots of GT are fantastic. but you don't play a screenshot. games look different in motion.
the things he pointed out (flat trees, etc...) are noticed when you drive around and are sure as hell not going to be shown in any official screenshots.
now, granted, I don't remember seeing any such flat tree trunks in GT5P, but this is not the same game. it's been improved upon I'm sure, but perhaps some other tradeoffs had to be made to accommodate the new things GT5 is doing. whatever the case, this guy saw these problems with the current GT5 build with his own eyes and commented on them. how can you challenge that?
LJ11 said:
I never said there was a vast gap between the physics models. However, I do think the Forza series has better physics than the GT series and I do believe based on several reports that Forza 2 was doing more calculations on the fly that GT5
. Again, this could all change. Who knows what black magic PD is cooking up. The bottom line is that despite the 1,000 jpgs from both series in this thread, it's totally and utterly irrelevant. One can make either game look photorealistic or horrendous. When I'm trying to out brake my opponent going into turn 5 on XYZ course the last thing I'm going to be thinking about is graphics, let alone what the game I'm playing looks like in jpg form. All I'm thinking is "holy fuck this is a lot of fun."
Everyone needs to relax and stop the jpg bombardment. What series do you find more FUN? It's a videogame, afterall.
SeaOfMadness said:
Good thing that we can form our own opinions by looking at footage from the show, like this video:
http://gamersyde.com/news_tgs09_gran_turismo_5_mercedes-8572_en.html
SeaOfMadness
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jett said:deepbrown(and destructoid) is mistaken. There's damage in the floorshow demo, as Che himself stated in his GT5 impressions.
yes, that didn't make sense to me either. we've heard numerous reports of damage being shown in GT5 at TGS. no idea why this guy said it wasn't there.
unless by "wasn't there" he meant "wasn't good enough" or something??
jett said:deepbrown(and destructoid) is mistaken. There's damage in the floorshow demo, as Che himself stated in his GT5 impressions.
Right, but according to Che the demo with the Subaru was different from the demo with the SLS. The Subbie had the damage we saw at Gamescom but the SLS just had scrapes and stuff.
jett said:
It goes back to their opening lines about basing the article on what they played on the floor. They specifically mention things like "judging on the demo, etc" throughout the article. You could criticize the wording of the sentence mentioning damage but it's still been made abundantly clear what the scope of the article is.
LordPhoque
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jett said:
I think we get it.
Sorry, Blim said it wasn't in (or thought it wasn't) which meant I presumed that was the case from the Destructoid article. That it is (in SOME form) means Dtoids article makes even less sense.jett said:deepbrown(and destructoid) is mistaken. There's damage in the floorshow demo, as Che himself stated in his GT5 impressions.
SeaOfMadness
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jett said:
not that you care, but here's my opinion
o lighting is excellent. cannot argue with that.
o track is ok, but there is an awful lot of repetition in the trees. on several streets, the trees were *identical* in their rows on both sides of the track.
o all shadows cast on the car (inside and out) are very blocky/polygonal, not smooth and feathered like you'd expect
o did not get a good sense of speed on that track. the car looked like it was going slower than it actually was.
i think it looks good, but this guy said he drove slow and noticed lots of flat models. so he's either making that up, or he actually saw that.
deepbrown said:
That's the only sentence that could possibly be misleading there. But even with that in there, it's been made very, very clear that he is talking about the demos presented to him. That section makes perfect sense if you read it with the understanding that he is only talking about the demo.
Criticize it for a bad sentence where he potentially misrepresents the finished GT5 as being fully represented by the demo. But that isn't bad research.
Frankly, we're all giving way too much attention to a throw away article no one will remember by next week.
Pimpbaa said:
No but it may lead to some posters quoting your tag.
belvedere said:
Seems like you have the wrong end of the stick my fellow junior friend. I have no doubt that GT5 will visually be on another level to Forza 3. The problem is certain posters getting worryingly excited because of the poor Gamersyde captures.
For the record I don't even like Racing sims :lol Dirt 2 is more my fortay.
belvedere said:
Not having played the demo does take away some credibility when being critical at this point I think. Screengrabs can be affected by all kinds of things not related to the game and I can tell you with no hesitation that the Ferrari shot doesn't look like the game I'm playing at all.
Whoever has the ability to play the demo should. There's no way that screen will match what you experience.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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Shogun PaiN said:
Low blow. :lol :lol
LordPhoque
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pr0cs said:
But... gamersyde pics ?
BenjaminBirdie
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jett said:
Well, Jett, a lot of things sure are nice.
;D
iamcool388
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Shogun PaiN said:
If you're gonna do it, at least do it right. You only show your ignorance of the forum when you equate belvedere, who is a junior butler, to yourself, a proper junior. :lol
P.S. My first post in this thread. Dear God the fun i've had watching this cesspool of humanity fester... Its like an ugly zit on the face of NeoGAF!
BadlyCookedTurkey
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expy said:
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
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Cool I can make my car look tacky.BenjaminBirdie said:Well, Jett, a lot of things sure are nice.
;D
I know, I know. Unbridled fanboyism can still be fun sometimes.
Mr.NiceGuy
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More than 30 pages already!
You guys are fuckin pathetic.
You guys are fuckin pathetic.
BenjaminBirdie
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Epic Tier 3 Engineer said:
There is not one earthly thing tacky about putting Noodle on a car.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Gatdam!
It's nice to know that now you have to have played Forza 3 to comment on the game's graphics. I trust all of you have played Gran Turismo 5, yes? :lol
You can say a lot about the overzealousness of GT fanboys, but the double-standards and hypocrisy exhibited by some of you is truly astounding. I guess this is what this thread is good for.
"that video is like TEH CGI and total bullshit" *doesn't matter that Forza's photomode pictures are generated in the exact same way as that video*
"lulz keep those bullshots away from here, where are the real in-game pictures?" *ignores the fact that all we've seen from F3 are bullshots*
"Off-screen shots? bitch plz!" *goes on to post off-screen shots of F3 to demonstrate its graphical qualities*
Seriously, get a grip people and stop acting like you're all unbiased and better than the rest. This the official thread of complete bullshit and you better recognize it.
Now, let's carry on with the craziness.
You can say a lot about the overzealousness of GT fanboys, but the double-standards and hypocrisy exhibited by some of you is truly astounding. I guess this is what this thread is good for.
"that video is like TEH CGI and total bullshit" *doesn't matter that Forza's photomode pictures are generated in the exact same way as that video*
"lulz keep those bullshots away from here, where are the real in-game pictures?" *ignores the fact that all we've seen from F3 are bullshots*
"Off-screen shots? bitch plz!" *goes on to post off-screen shots of F3 to demonstrate its graphical qualities*
Seriously, get a grip people and stop acting like you're all unbiased and better than the rest. This the official thread of complete bullshit and you better recognize it.
Now, let's carry on with the craziness.