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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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CrushDance
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Have you actually provided any constructive comments? Your constant, failing attempts to get a rise out of people is annoying. Stop it.jakonovski said:
BadlyCookedTurkey
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kemalettin said:
What's 'cuttie ass' in your native language?
infinityBCRT
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I think Gameswire probably has the best comparison pics between the two games... The quality of the jpg's isn't crap like on Gamersyde
http://www.gameswire.net/comparison...s-gran-turismo-5-prologue--comparison_31.html
http://www.gameswire.net/comparison...s-gran-turismo-5-prologue--comparison_31.html
BravoSuperStar
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CrushDance said:
You're really going to play the "constructive comment" card in this thread? Lol. I think you need to relax, seems like your taking this thread way to seriously.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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jakonovski said:
Demos ftw.
CrushDance
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I'm not being defensive. I came into this thread to see screens and comparisons of both games, I didn't troll or make any snarky comments. Just because it's a comparison thread, doesn't mean it's a free for all either.imtehman said:
Pray, do tell.AZ Greg said:
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Those aren't jaggies. Those edges are anti-aliased.Zabka said:
Interfectum said:
No one is manipulating the buffer captures, but the simple truth of the matter is they look smoother on your actual television. People seem to love accepting certain 'facts' while ignoring others--there are buffer caps of prologue in this very same thread that have the same issues with regards to aliasing, texture work, etc. The press shots T10 has released are photomode shots, but for what they are, those are the actual car models in the actual lighting conditions. It's also exactly what PD does when it releases its screens.
Actual TV output will always look better than buffer caps. these are iphone camera grabs, taken for the purpose of illustrating the edge clarity (as I've said in this very thread, off-screen caps tend to enhance contrast, so ignore that. this isn't trying to prove how 'real' it looks.):
That last shot is actually a swinging camera.
The replays T10 has released in the last month look exactly as things do in game, albeit occasionally slowed down to show off car models. If you're trying to convince yourself they're somehow showing off models 'not' in the game, you're wasting your time.
I've pretty much been joking around the whole time in this thread because, well, let's be honest--most of the people here have no interest in ACTUAL discussion of each game's merits, because they decided the 'winner' long ago. I'm going to step outside my sarcastic little box and offer some honest insights.
I've got my PS3 on my HDMI II connection and I've been switching back and forth between both games in gameplay as well as replay, and you want to know the diff? FM3 has more vibrant color, whereas Prologue's is more subdued. There is little to no difference in terms of the level of aliasing, although on my 1080p display I'd probably give prologue the nod for having sliiiiightly less. There are major differences in how the cars move in each respective demo (Prologue's are certainly more slippery, with less weight transfer in turns) and that gives the FM3 demo the edge in that respect. It drives better. FM3 also has the edge in terms of the car audio, to the point prologue's vehicles sound like they're under water. In terms of the replays, I give the nod to PD for good use of focus depth to enhance the drama of their replay cameras. FM3 is doing a much better job than FM2 in terms of intelligent cameras, though prologue has more dynamic ones.
People are harping on the cockpit views as well. FM3's, for the most part, do the job just fine. There are varying levels of quality (the Ferrari's above is smoother than, say, the subaru's in the same demo). All the dials are animated and functional, and it's honestly the first cockpit view I've ever actually LIKED racing with. it's less obtrusive than, say, Grid's or Dirt's, which have always felt like I was racing in a rearview mirror. I won't compare it to GT's because I don't HAVE GT5 to compare it to on an honest 1 on 1, but I can assure you it's a hell of a lot nicer than the grabs above.
The above post was for the benefit of those ACTUALLY interested in both games, without playing any favorites. I think it's simply asinine to throw around screenshots trying to declare a 'winnar'. I own a PS3 ONLY for GT5, I got my PSP long ago for the sole purpose of playing GT PSP. I've played the living hell out of Forza 1, Forza 2, and I'm going to play the hell out of this demo until I get Forza 3. Any of you how actually give a damn about racing games, not system wars, will tell you: That's the fucking point.
You may go back to your shitlsinging.
jakonovski said:
Wow. It's like he missed the entire page of posts above him. Especially the part where one side (the side he so blatantly belongs to) resorted to name calling, using doctored pics, and yet despite all of this, still never constructed a valid argument.
:lol
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Sadly, this will never happen. As m0dus and several others have noted, there's pretty much no chance of a legitimate comparison discussion happening considering the thread was created to keep the other main threads clean of this garbage.CrushDance said:
XiaNaphryz said:
Direct feed grab comparisons of both titles happened pages ago. Anyone who's ever sat in an automobile, or has experiencing with using their retinas can point out the more realistic game. The closest was when looking at similar points on similar tracks from the behind the car view, even then the car model details were noticeable.
See the problem is that poorly taken screen grabs can make a good looking game appear a little rough around the edges. I have no doubt at all GT5 will be in a whole other league visually compared to Forza 3 but using screens featuring heavy artifact's is a little unfair.
For example -
Is that what Prologue looks like? With MMO style textures? Unless my TV is a bad liar I don't think so.
Apologies If i Broke the whole page size thing.
For example -
Is that what Prologue looks like? With MMO style textures? Unless my TV is a bad liar I don't think so.
Apologies If i Broke the whole page size thing.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Unfortunately, this post is going to fall on mainly deaf ears in here.m0dus said:No one is manipulating the buffer captures, but the simple truth of the matter is they look smoother on your actual television. People seem to love accepting certain 'facts' while ignoring others--there are buffer caps of prologue in this very same thread that have the same issues with regards to aliasing, texture work, etc. The press shots T10 has released are photomode shots, but for what they are, those are the actual car models in the actual lighting conditions. It's also exactly what PD does when it releases its screens.
Actual TV output will always look better than buffer caps. these are iphone camera grabs, taken for the purpose of illustrating the edge clarity (as I've said in this very thread, off-screen caps tend to enhance contrast, so ignore that. this isn't trying to prove how 'real' it looks.):
That last shot is actually a swinging camera.
The replays T10 has released in the last month look exactly as things do in game, albeit occasionally slowed down to show off car models. If you're trying to convince yourself they're somehow showing off models 'not' in the game, you're wasting your time.
I've pretty much been joking around the whole time in this thread because, well, let's be honest--most of the people here have no interest in ACTUAL discussion of each game's merits, because they decided the 'winner' long ago. I'm going to step outside my sarcastic little box and offer some honest insights.
I've got my PS3 on my HDMI II connection and I've been switching back and forth between both games in gameplay as well as replay, and you want to know the diff? FM3 has more vibrant color, whereas Prologue's is more subdued. There is little to no difference in terms of the level of aliasing, although on my 1080p display I'd probably give prologue the nod for having sliiiiightly less. There are major differences in how the cars move in each respective demo (Prologue's are certainly more slippery, with less weight transfer in turns) and that gives the FM3 demo the edge in that respect. It drives better. FM3 also has the edge in terms of the car audio, to the point prologue's vehicles sound like they're under water. In terms of the replays, I give the nod to PD for good use of focus depth to enhance the drama of their replay cameras. FM3 is doing a much better job than FM2 in terms of intelligent cameras, though prologue has more dynamic ones.
People are harping on the cockpit views as well. FM3's, for the most part, do the job just fine. There are varying levels of quality (the Ferrari's above is smoother than, say, the subaru's in the same demo). All the dials are animated and functional, and it's honestly the first cockpit view I've ever actually LIKED racing with. it's less obtrusive than, say, Grid's or Dirt's, which have always felt like I was racing in a rearview mirror. I won't compare it to GT's because I don't HAVE GT5 to compare it to on an honest 1 on 1, but I can assure you it's a hell of a lot nicer than the grabs above.
The above post was for the benefit of those ACTUALLY interested in both games, without playing any favorites. I think it's simply asinine to throw around screenshots trying to declare a 'winnar'. I own a PS3 ONLY for GT5, I got my PSP long ago for the sole purpose of playing GT PSP. I've played the living hell out of Forza 1, Forza 2, and I'm going to play the hell out of this demo until I get Forza 3. Any of you how actually give a damn about racing games, not system wars, will tell you: That's the fucking point.
You may go back to your shitlsinging.
Slayer-33
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CrushDance said:
The ridicule, snarky comments and jabs have been pretty one sided since last night.
All based mainly on a bad gif cap of FM3 recently dubbed "magic carpet ride" and the very relevant Top Gear quotes :lol, and now the very same people that haven't even played the demo ridicule screen caps that don't even represent how the game looks at all. Childish behavior at best.
But oh well I'm someone on the "other side" so my statement must be biased.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Serious business!Leckan said:
infinityBCRT
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m0dus said:
I'll also post this comparison between Gamersyde's capture and Gameswire's captures. Its obvious Gamersyde's caps are just bad quality.
CrushDance
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You're right. I'll just browse the FM3 thread instead.XiaNaphryz said:
kemalettin
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its cutie you stupid TURKEY or Turkish whateva you r..BadlyCookedTurkey said:
look here for the explanation in my language pls.. www.19yo round ass cutie tucked and creamed.com
BadlyCookedTurkey
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No they are not, at least not for what our friendly trolls are all clamoring about. They just display that under certain angles Turn 10's lighting engine falls flat on its face with this result. It certainly wasn't intended to show this from Manager's part as far as I can tell, but I simply can't let you say that our captures are bad quality. Bad quality would not result in what we see here.infinityBCRT said:
pr0cs said:
Especially now that GT5 isn't coming out until at least March. When released, FM3 will be the best sim racer on consoles. That's a good six months for all of us to enjoy the awesomeness. Then when GT5 is released we can see for ourselves if its better or not. Then we buy that if is. It's that simple, really.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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Pic I posted came from Gamersyde btw.
Apex
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Slayer-33 said:
720p/60fps
http://ruliwebfile.nate.com/mpeg4/scek/ruliweb_gt4pkor_ferrari_ps3hd.wmv
http://ruliwebfile.nate.com/mpeg4/scek/ruliweb_gt4pkor_01_ps3hd.wmv
http://ruliwebfile.nate.com/mpeg4/scek/ruliweb_gt4pkor_02_ps3hd.wmv
http://ruliwebfile.nate.com/mpeg4/scek/ruliweb_gt4pkor_03_ps3hd.wmv
http://ruliwebfile.nate.com/mpeg4/scek/ruliweb_gt4pkor_04_ps3hd.wmv
infinityBCRT said:
The first image has some really bad jpeg compression artifacts. Zoom in with your favorite image editing tool and look around the Ferrari emblem. And none of the edges or panels of the car look clean. Lots of jpeg noise.
In fact, the second image (Gameswire) is only very slightly better (it is a larger file, too). There are artifacts there, too, but not as severe.
The game itself, surprisingly, doesn't include jpeg compression artifacts.
wonderkins
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So, how many haughty Xbox MVPs and shrill Sony GAP members can fit into one thread?
Guess we'll find out; though, I'd rather be on the team getting the game for free for my services than a token beta or two. Gotta get paid for mah bootay!
Guess we'll find out; though, I'd rather be on the team getting the game for free for my services than a token beta or two. Gotta get paid for mah bootay!
cyberheater
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Okay. I've played the Forza3 demo for a couple of hours on and off and then had another couple of goes on NFS Shift [PC] demo and I'm torn.
Both played from in cockpit view (outside views are for girls).
Forza:-
F3 is so smooth. Completely judder free and wonderfully responsive and incredible 60fps with almost no anti aliasing issues and absolutely no tearing. It feels lovely. In cockpit view looks great and you get a nice sense of speed. A.I. is also really good. You actually feel that they're real people in there trying to get in front of you etc...
Shift:_
Obviously on a decent PC rig you can notch up the visuals so there is no anti aliasing at all and everything looks super lush. Cockpit view looks more real then Forza. You can see reflections in the glass etc.
The blur effect and head bobbing gives you a much more visceral and brutal sense of speed. When you're barrelling down the road at 160 mph in Shift. It really does feel like your doing it.
Handling on shift does not feel as real as Forza. There is definitely something off there with the physics and the bumping around bit.
The A.I. in Shift is mental compared to Forza3. It's like you're in some kind of crazy Mad Max racing universe compared to Forza. I'm not so much racing, more combating. But it does feel more exciting though.
I really don't know which one to get...
Both played from in cockpit view (outside views are for girls).
Forza:-
F3 is so smooth. Completely judder free and wonderfully responsive and incredible 60fps with almost no anti aliasing issues and absolutely no tearing. It feels lovely. In cockpit view looks great and you get a nice sense of speed. A.I. is also really good. You actually feel that they're real people in there trying to get in front of you etc...
Shift:_
Obviously on a decent PC rig you can notch up the visuals so there is no anti aliasing at all and everything looks super lush. Cockpit view looks more real then Forza. You can see reflections in the glass etc.
The blur effect and head bobbing gives you a much more visceral and brutal sense of speed. When you're barrelling down the road at 160 mph in Shift. It really does feel like your doing it.
Handling on shift does not feel as real as Forza. There is definitely something off there with the physics and the bumping around bit.
The A.I. in Shift is mental compared to Forza3. It's like you're in some kind of crazy Mad Max racing universe compared to Forza. I'm not so much racing, more combating. But it does feel more exciting though.
I really don't know which one to get...