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Forza 7 Pre-Release Discussion (50GB Day1 Patch, Achievements, Demo/Previews on 19th)
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tearsintherain
Member
Damn that 50 gig download and 100 gig install size is absolutely insane. Especially for people who cross play and install on both PC and xb1. My ISP now implements a 1TB data cap per month and I come out to around 600gb with streaming and stuff, I wonder if publishers are getting concerned about their games and people getting new lower data caps.
I'm keeping my ultimate pre order since I got it for $64 at amazon but I really didn't enjoy FM5 or FM6 that much whereas FH2 and FH3 are two of my fav games, so I'll probably play for a while and trade it in. Hoping the ultimate "upgrade" sticks to my account and doesn't require the disc if I rebuy base game digital down the road.
Really cool to hear forzathon is back in FM7, thats one of the funnest parts of FH3 for me, just a reason to play every weekend. Hope they get rid of the "win" and "co-op" forzathon events though.
I'm keeping my ultimate pre order since I got it for $64 at amazon but I really didn't enjoy FM5 or FM6 that much whereas FH2 and FH3 are two of my fav games, so I'll probably play for a while and trade it in. Hoping the ultimate "upgrade" sticks to my account and doesn't require the disc if I rebuy base game digital down the road.
Really cool to hear forzathon is back in FM7, thats one of the funnest parts of FH3 for me, just a reason to play every weekend. Hope they get rid of the "win" and "co-op" forzathon events though.
Delusibeta
Banned
Microsoft has gotten into a very bad habit of shipping part of a game on disc, and then expecting users to download a massive update to get the rest of the game. 50Gb on day one is completely unreasonable, and I presume that the Xbonx update in November would also be large.
Maverick-ick
Member
What kind of Internet connection are you people on with these caps? Mobile broadband? Haven't seen these caps in my country and we have fiber optic almost everywhere. Before that xDsl up to 60mbit/s. But never caps. Only on 3g and 4g connections.
I would never approve a broadband connection with a cap on it. Is this the only thing you can get?
Somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of Americans have only one broadband ISP (or none) and usually those ISP's are trying to also sell cable TV so they discourage Netflix and streaming via data caps. As they're the only broadband ISP in the area, their customers can't take their business elsewhere short of moving.
That said, most other developed and even some less developed countries are better overall. US internet on average is pretty bad on a world scale especially when you factor in cost as well.
I'm pretty stoked for this. That patch is the sort of thing I'm used to with games larger than a dual-layer BR, but especially for people with shoddy ISPs, that's not exactly a rolling start. That said, previous Forza games with this sort of arrangement really did have the core of the single-player on-disc, so you could play plenty without needing a "right away" download.
I'm hoping to see impressive things, re: their optional-packet feature for keeping down download and hard-drive size. It's something that the industry at large needs to adopt more consistently.
I'm hoping to see impressive things, re: their optional-packet feature for keeping down download and hard-drive size. It's something that the industry at large needs to adopt more consistently.
Yeah, that's been in there for a while. There's a setting for default, and you can choose a drive when you first initiate the install in the store. In the normal installed apps panel, you can move stuff from drive-to-drive if it ends up in the wrong place.
sems4arsenal
Member
So you'll need to download a 100GBs for a game without the eventual patches and DLC? fuck outa here.
It's true that the initial install doesn't include things released in the future, yes.
sems4arsenal
Member
I hate that crap. Games like BF1 and DOOM are bad enough but having 100 GBs before any patches (which will no doubt be huge) is bad.
At this rate a console can only hold just 4 games.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
you can upgrade your storage on console. 1TB drives don't cost much. definitely cheaper than buying the 1TB console models. i just bought a 500GB ps4 and put a 1TB drive in.
you could get about 9 games at 100GB on a 1TB. if that's not enough for you then you can get a 2TB!
Lol.
Diablohead
Member
Please Microsoft just spread games over two damn blurays already, 50GB download jeeze
It's the way of things. I recall reading a C64 game mag, where people were bitching about Epix Summer Games shipping on multiple floppies. The difference is now we're moving slowly into a game space where sales are going to be moving to online more and more. It's already 100 percent with PC. It's coming with consoles.
I live in a good place for internet speeds/price/uncapped. Other do not. That's the crime here.
It's a good joke made funnier in that this has actually happened in the past. Street Fighter X Tekken had all future content on disc that trickled out over time via paid DLC small unlock codes. Also internet matches were rife with cheaters who hacked all the DLC and steamrolled people online with OP pay-only gems.
Yep.
I'd expect games on the next Xbox and PlayStation consoles to ship on BDXL discs which allow 100 GB and 128 GB.
Maverick-ick
Member
Sorry to hear this. I hope your ISPs wake up soon and get rid of these caps.
Already broke one keyboard when I first saw it on the achievement list, trying not to break another...lol
I don't think the Xbox One supports multiple discs.
Assuming FM7 is 100+ gig because it ships with 700-odd highly-detailed cars, many of which most people won't even use, then why not let us delete whole swathes of cars (hell - or even tracks) that we have absolutely no interest in to get the file size down?
There's an awful lot of padding in that car list.
There's an awful lot of padding in that car list.
Dzidza1978
Member
Or just have 300 cars and when you want to buy one, just download that one.
ResidentDante
Member
Agree. I miss cool achievements like PGR4's with stopping an Aston Martin infront of a casino in Vegas etc. :-D
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Jeez. I'm very happy that im not interested in Forza Motorsport 7 at all.
That still doesn't sound like enough, honestly.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
yet here you are in a Forza 7 thread. why?
Tunned
Member
Sadly I get the "this service is currently unavailable - try again later" bullshit when I try to sign in into Windows 10 store. I have no idea how to fix it even after following tutorials online, and I don't want to reintall windows, so I'm locked out of playing FH3 and trying the F7 demo. F you MS, F U.
LostDonkey
Member
I keep getting the "VIP installation failed" popup on my PC preload. Does anyone know anything about this??
The error message is saying it's failed because I can't install this app on an sd card. I don't even have an SD card in my rig.
The error message is saying it's failed because I can't install this app on an sd card. I don't even have an SD card in my rig.
GHG
Member
Oh god.
Something tells me I won't enjoy the process of trying to get this downloaded and installed.
You can't do that if the game has online multiplayer and someone could pick any car.
The game is massive because it's loaded with content..explain to me how that's bad?
Also if you're not into Forza at all why are you here?
Caayn
Member
That means that driveavatars and online players can't use those cars either as the data needs to be on the drive.
If you have an external drive you can download it once and transfer.
Dzidza1978
Member
Drivetars use cars that you have on drive, but for online i agree with you, it needs to be on drive or you download that car. Most people will use single player in the beginning, and you can than download cars at later point. I am just thinking out loud as i dont know how many MB one car has.
This is where that cloud streaming tech for games would be super handy. Only have the tracks on disc and stream every other car as you need it.
Who goes backwards and adds a download limit? Fuck is that.