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[rocksteady1983]

For what it's worth, the model detail / quality is as high as the first pic in the photomode stuff I've done... but I don't have any way to export it right now so I have no idea if that's how it ends up.

Thats at least a little re-assuring. Hopefully che can chime in and confirm everything.

 

[Xamdou]

What resolution did the pictures of Forza 2 upload to the main website?

 

[Slayer-33]

What resolution did the pictures of Forza 2 upload to the main website?

It's not the resolution it's the compression that's making them look blurry, are we sure that it's the compression and not the amount of blur effect added via photomode? (manual in game effect blur at that I mean via the sliders)

 

[ShapeGSX]

I just dont get why the fuck they dont give you the option to export onto a usb drive. Hell i thought that was the whole reason for the "forza usb drive". I mean 1. we wouldnt have to compress anything, 2. they wouldnt have to waste bandwith and shit for people uploading. I just dont get it. But as long as the quality is as good as the pics che has posted im fine. If its jubes quality i will go fucking apeshit.

It looks like the pics from Forza 3 are just slightly better than the ones from Forza 2. Forza 2 had images that were in the 65kb to 80kb range. The Forza 3 ones are over 100kb. But I saw some PGR4 photos at 150k.

 

[Jube3]

Here is one without motion blur of the gaf car.

And another one with a celtics WIP

 

[NeoGIF]

captured a little gif of the ODST car I made. Ill post pics once I get them.

SICK! Including the pictures above. Man, I can't wait to get my creative juices flowing.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

100kb... what a fucking shame.

 

[Recoil]

It appears to be the same level of compression that you get when you take a photo from within Halo 3.

You can't tell that just by filesize, which doesn't equal quality of compression when it comes to JPEG.

And it's pretty clear they're just not up to par in F3.

This is just fucking shameful, especially on a feature which is essentially going to become the face of Forza on the internet, as user-created screenshots spread through forums and websites.

edit: And I'm not expecting 500kb images. 150kb would be just fine. I'm not looking for the world, just a good looking picture. As it is, it's just pathetic.

 

[pr0cs]

100kb... what a fucking shame.

yeah, it really hurts the car pr0n shots. It did with Forza2 as well, sort of surprised they didn't up (or down I guess) the compression with Forza3

 

[blanky]

I just dont get why the fuck they dont give you the option to export onto a usb drive. Hell i thought that was the whole reason for the "forza usb drive". I mean 1. we wouldnt have to compress anything, 2. they wouldnt have to waste bandwith and shit for people uploading. I just dont get it. But as long as the quality is as good as the pics che has posted im fine. If its jubes quality i will go fucking apeshit.

I think Microsoft probably prohibited them because they might have been afraid that opening the software to usb exports would maybe compromise it for more exploits/piracy and such. But yeah it's a bit dissapointing for sure

Atleast the fidelity of the liveries have improved, that is very welcome.

 

[Chrange]

edit: And I'm not expecting 500kb images. But 150kb would be just fine. As it is, it's just pathetic.

Maybe you weren't, but I was expecting the ability to export shots that weren't horribly compressed. I was hoping for a 1-1.5 meg option.

When your highly improved graphics engine and livery editor are two key points, why would you want people spreading highly compressed images of the game?

 

[ShapeGSX]

No, it's not.

And you can't tell that just by filesize, which doesn't equal quality of compression when it comes to JPEG.

Well no, of course not. For example, that Maple Valley shot with all the leaves is going to be more of an artifacting mess than the clean shot of the car with a white background if they are aiming for a particular size rather than compression level. It does appear that they are just aiming for a certain file size, though.

I'd even pay extra for a Turn 10 "Pro" account, like Bungie does, if they gave us a larger file size to export photos to.

 

[Psychotext]

It's a real shame because at their highest detail levels the car models are stunning... only to be smushed up by Mr Compression.

 

[Jube3]

heres the last pic I took, its the Halo ODST BMW coupe

 

[Recoil]

That thing is goddamn amazing, Jube.


edit: Didn't it have blue rims on it before, though? Or am I thinking of someone else's car?

 

[h3ro]

OMG.

 

[imtehman]

quick question about body kits, do the cars come with them or can you adjust them to different types?

 

[Ultimo hombre]

How to do screenshots: Bungie
How to fuck it up properly: Turn 10, Epic

Well done guys. For absolutely no reason, you managed to dumb things down.

 

[blanky]

quick question about body kits, do the cars come with them or can you adjust them to different types?

yeah there's various levels of bodyparts (bumpers, skirts, wings, hoods) that you can change. But it's not NFS Underground.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

So I'm watching Jube3's live stream, (he's painting an Alan Wake livery), and it's seriously blowing my mind how a complex design is coming together via the manipulation of simple shapes and gradients. It's quite incredible to watch.

Seriously, Jube3, (and m0dus!), the designs you guys are pulling off are something else. Well done.

 

[Totobeni]

guys I want to buy Playseat for Forza 3 ( I have 360's Wireles Wheel ), but Amazon's Playseats Limited Edition Forza 3 Evolution Racing Seat deal is way too much ($349.99) compared with Playseats Classic Gaming Seat ( $149.99 ) or even normal Playseats Evolution ( $299.99)

anyone know the different between Playseats Evolution Forza Limited Edition and Evolution / Classic ones?

 

[Jube3]

So I'm watching Jube3's live stream, (he's painting an Alan Wake livery), and it's seriously blowing my mind how a complex design is coming together via the manipulation of simple shapes and gradients. It's quite incredible to watch.

Seriously, Jube3, (and m0dus!), the designs you guys are pulling off are something else. Well done.

Thanks man, for those who are curious im still streaming the painting process www.justin.tv/jube3

 

[AMUSIX]

I would love to see someone recreate this shot with photomode, to see how damaging that compression can be. I'm not sure what track that is, though. Catalunya?

 

[Tashi]

I'm rehosting and posting that ODST-mobile in the ODST thread. I hope you don't mind, it's just too awesome.

 

[Chrange]

*drift GAF pic*

Shouldn't the tire tracks be under the tires, not an overlay on top? It's bugged me each time I see that pic.

 

[skyfinch]

*drift GAF pic*

Shouldn't the tire tracks be under the tires, not an overlay on top? It's bugged me each time I see that pic.

The overlaying parts look more like smoke.

 

[Big Takeover]

I never get tired of seeing people's awesome creations. Incredible.

EDIT: Love the C's one complete with parquet, Jube.

 

[Scottlarock]

It's a real shame because at their highest detail levels the car models are stunning... only to be smushed up by Mr Compression.

this is messed up, while I'm doubtful I hope they can fix this with a patch.

 

[user_nat]

Maybe the compression thing is to save resources. If so maybe they could offer higher quality screenshots for a price.

Would people want that?

 

[op_ivy]

guys I want to buy Playseat for Forza 3 ( I have 360's Wireles Wheel ), but Amazon's Playseats Limited Edition Forza 3 Evolution Racing Seat deal is way too much ($349.99) compared with Playseats Classic Gaming Seat ( $149.99 ) or even normal Playseats Evolution ( $299.99)

anyone know the different between Playseats Evolution Forza Limited Edition and Evolution / Classic ones?

cant speak for the playseat, but if you are spending that kind of money on a cockpit, check out the obutto

http://www.obutto.com/home.html

289, and appears to be loads better then the playseat to me

 

[Chrange]

The overlaying parts look more like smoke.

Yeah, I guess that's it. Must just be too close to the color of the rubber patch for me

 

[RSTEIN]

Turn 10 why did you have to screw up photomode

 

[Slayer-33]

Turn 10 why did you have to screw up photomode

This is a freaking shame...

Here's to hoping that we can screen grab the 720P videos at full quality?


C'mon T10 how the hell did you screw this up? Great looking photomode vehicle models thrown down the drain because we can't upload our pics in HQ?


I can see the compression artifacts with my bare eyes.. gah..

heres the last pic I took, its the Halo ODST BMW coupe
http://2daystilsunday.com/links/Photo_568.jpg

it diminishes the greatness of works like these..

OMG.

Bodykit or racecar, looks just sick.

 

[Dr Bad Dude PHD]

Not to hate on Forza 3 or anything... but is the sharable online content in this game going to get ripped a new one ala LBP? I was just watching the Giant Bomb quick look, there were space invaders symbols, Daft Punk logos and the list goes on. My guess is we are only going to see more and more of this, is it fair game now or is Microsoft working though some sort of legal loophole or what's the deal?

 

[Slayer-33]

Taking a wild guess but couldn't they patch up the photomode capture quality? If not it's very disappointing as it is.

Not to hate on Forza 3 or anything... but is the sharable online content in this game going to get ripped a new one ala LBP? I was just watching the Giant Bomb quick look, there were space invaders symbols, Daft Punk logos and the list goes on. My guess is we are only going to see more and more of this, is it fair game now or is Microsoft working though some sort of legal loophole or what's the deal?

Porn cars only, i'm sure you'll be able to grab them before they are flagged though.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Not to hate on Forza 3 or anything... but is the sharable online content in this game going to get ripped a new one ala LBP? I was just watching the Giant Bomb quick look, there were space invaders symbols, Daft Punk logos and the list goes on. My guess is we are only going to see more and more of this, is it fair game now or is Microsoft working though some sort of legal loophole or what's the deal?

I doubt it. The same thing happened non-stop in FM2. It's all 2D imagery. What stuff got taken down in LBP?

Anyways. I got through the Quick Look. So much awesomeness.

 

[Dr Bad Dude PHD]

I doubt it. The same thing happened non-stop in FM2. It's all 2D imagery. What stuff got taken down in LBP?

Anyways. I got through the Quick Look. So much awesomeness.

I don't know if it went on to become a permanent "thing" in LBP but during the early days (iirc) any level that featured anything remotely similar to something that already existed was removed, which was a shame because the levels that were pure fan tributes to much bigger games were amazing.

Maybe there is just a difference in the way the content is presented or interacted with or something that makes the decals in Forza fair game. Either way I hope they are allowed to stay and I can't wait to see the superb MGS tribute cars.

 

[ShapeGSX]

I took a photo tonight in PGR4, and it is 144kb, and looks much better (artifact-wise, not car-wise). In fact, it is virtually artifact free. Another 50% in file size would make all the difference in the world.

 

[Bloodworth]

What's wrong with photo mode exactly? I don't know what they'll look like on the website, but this is directly from my game, and I think it looks pretty darned good.

 

[Chrange]

Look at the difference in file size.

489.39 KB - reduce that to 100 and see what it looks like.

 

[Slayer-33]

Look at the difference in file size.

489.39 KB - reduce that to 100 and see what it looks like.

even the one he posted looks pretty washed out. Like a 100kb one jacked up to 400+ish kb's lol.


I took this pgr 4 one a few minutes ago..

http://i36.tinypic.com/16kdhf4.jpg 313kb

even after all this time.. jack up the quality for the love of god T10 lol..

 

[Chrange]

even the one he posted looks pretty washed out. Like a 100kb one jacked up to 400+ish kb's lol.

Washed out would probably just be his photo settings. Here's a comparison I did. Can you tell which one - without looking at the image size - is the direct capture and which is the download from FM?

http://i38.tinypic.com/f0b0wx.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/20z89p2.jpg


http://i35.tinypic.com/9kz0c5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/5n6kk1.jpg


Pop them open into tabs and flip back and forth. The compression makes a remarkable difference.

 

[Slayer-33]

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Weird that his are 400+ kb then and jubes are 100 lol

 

[Spasm]

Washed out would probably just be his photo settings. Here's a comparison I did. Can you tell which one - without looking at the image size - is the direct capture and which is the download from FM?

http://i38.tinypic.com/f0b0wx.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/20z89p2.jpg


http://i35.tinypic.com/9kz0c5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/5n6kk1.jpg


Pop them open into tabs and flip back and forth. The compression makes a remarkable difference.

Without looking at the filesizes, the second one for both is noticeably more aliased. To the point where the hood up near the windscreen is a different color in the first set, so I'm guessing that's the FM download? It's a shame.

 

[rollingstart]

is this game already out? people are talking like it's out

Gamestop still has it listed for the 27th

 

[Jube3]

yo guys, after streaming 4 hours of painting im streaming the Team BlkJck room. 2 dudeds tandem drifting! :O
www.justin.tv/jube3

this will probably be my last stream for a while, due to work and stuff.

 

[Chrange]

lol - the sound is just roaring engines and squealing tires...so awesome :lol

 

[Jube3]

lol - the sound is just roaring engines and squealing tires...so awesome :lol

Yea these dudes are insane.

 

[Yoritomo]

It looks like they're not managing their colorspace well on photo export.

 

[op_ivy]

Washed out would probably just be his photo settings. Here's a comparison I did. Can you tell which one - without looking at the image size - is the direct capture and which is the download from FM?

http://i38.tinypic.com/f0b0wx.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/20z89p2.jpg


http://i35.tinypic.com/9kz0c5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/5n6kk1.jpg


Pop them open into tabs and flip back and forth. The compression makes a remarkable difference.

i dont see a difference.