Too many sexual harassment accusations and now settlements for various former female journalists and anchors.
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FOX News Co-President Bill Shine has been dismissed
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Too many sexual harassment accusations and now settlements for various former female journalists and anchors.
Flying Toaster
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This has to be part of the attempt to aquire Sky. NPR and other news outlets have pointed out that the Murdoch boys are gutting things to look more open and less bias.
Who cares this is great for whatever reason.
Who cares this is great for whatever reason.
Rodney McKay
Member
I think FOX barely gives a shit about their audience (as long as they keep mindlessly watching it and letting them tell them what to think), they just care about losing advertising dollars.
I like to imagine it's a situation where they think " Hey I got fuck you money, time to reverse all the wrong this organization has done. If it fails...hey I got fuck you money."
RPGCrazied
Member
Hmm, this was 17hrs ago, maybe he is out as well.
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Jeffolation
Banned
Unfortunately this isn't FNC crumbling, it's a recalibration to assuage advertisers over the negative press the network has been accruing with the Ailes/O'Reilly. I think the Sky news acquisition is playing into this as well. It'll be the same propaganda arm of the GOP, but more palatable to corporate interests. This might be a bridge too far for Hannity.
bodyofanamerican
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The Salt Life
Banned
Not really, a station like that thrived with a Democrat in a power. It gave an outlet to anyone unhappy with Obama and the Clintons.
Now that the Republicans have all the power.....They have zero to talk about really and or feeling their oats too much.
I'm assuming this unraveling was going to happen this year anyway, no matter who won.
Probably knows his days are numbered.
RPGCrazied
Member
Man, if Hannity gets the boot as well I might just have to watch a little of the channel. Just a little. Probably just Shepard Smith.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Oh my God, if Fox lost Hannity....
RPGCrazied
Member
Its official. He's out.
He must know people have something on him then.
Their base doesn't care, their advertisers do and they bring in the money.
Interfectum
Member
Why is Bill Shine getting the axe? Sexual harassment cases?
Probably involved in covering it up / settlements and yet let it continue.
RPGCrazied
Member
I think its known he was hushing cases of it at the network, specially with O'Reily.
I don't think it's that. I think Hannity knows he'd be the oddball in a more progressive organization he doesn't stand with. That and/or his days are numbered because of this.
mightynine
Member
Man, Hannity should be unhinged today. Can't wait!
Those NSA tapes are making him very nervous. Not sure what he has been doing. Probably a hand-off man from RU to RNC member.
Rodney McKay
Member
Its official. He's out.
Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but I noticed that they referred to Suzanne Scott by her last name in her info paragraph (Scott), but they refer to Jay Wallace by his first name in his paragraph (Jay).
Could be I'm just being a picky tech writer and notice little errors like that, but it would also be sad if they were trying not to draw attention to Suzanne Scott being a woman as much as they can.
Lord Frieza
Member
Let's be honest, it's only a matter of time for him. It may be a few more years down the line, but when you got the founder, the top star and now the current Co-President, shit will come to get you at one point or another.
GabeTheGrouch76
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#draintheswsmp
Sad!
Lord Frieza
Member
Probably a lot of this has been going on behind the scenes for awhile. Trump did get rid of several people in the Justice Department who were investigating this, and that was probably his way of delaying, but the gears were already turning one way or another for it to happen, so he couldn't stop it full stop
Felix Lighter
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Awkward situation for Fox News. They've built their brand on garbage, which their audience will still demand, but their advertiser no longer want to be associated with it. I don't think they go away completely anytime soon but as they try to address their internal issues they will lose viewership to try to salvage relationships with advertisers. I think they just slowly become less and less relevant. My only fear is what fills the void. Conservatives are still going to seek out conservative spun news. Fox News is truly terrible but there is far worse.
Been a lot of talk in the rich conservative circles of launching a new Network to replace fox as its become too "liberal"
Its mostly a pipe dream I am sure they have talked about rehiring people like Bill O'Reilly etc. but that's not going to bring advertisers etc. They are in their little bubble world where they think they can just relaunch the past and everyone will forget the shit.
Its mostly a pipe dream I am sure they have talked about rehiring people like Bill O'Reilly etc. but that's not going to bring advertisers etc. They are in their little bubble world where they think they can just relaunch the past and everyone will forget the shit.
He's one of the few people I wish unemployment upon.
What has Hannity been saying lately?
Edit: hated to actively look up his twitter feed, but seems it's just the expected war drums and bluster about spreading cash around to fight to maintain this sham of a network and agenda. Nothing justifable or defensible, just a lot of empty threats that sound like a Saturday morning super-villain. "I'll get you next time liberals! I have all the money and lawyers, fear me!!"
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Hannity might be guilty of something, or he might just be a paranoid hack who's afraid that the person who brought him in has been axed.
I bet he has coverups in his closet, though.
I bet he has coverups in his closet, though.
Shine is one of the last remnants of the old guard. He was hired by Ailes. Hannity was part of the good ol' boys club at FNC and he's pissed that it's being deconstructed.
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thepotatoman
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Ailes held the place together. Mutual loyalty was absolutely huge for how he runs his business, and that created the old boys club atmosphere that's becoming unraveled now that he's gone.
The switch to James Murdoch holding much of the power is a pretty dramatic one, that's going to take a lot of shaking up before things settle down again. Because James Murdoch isn't 90 he actually does care about what to do when cable licensing money goes away and fox news loses almost all of its revenue while their median 70 year old viewer dies off.
And perhaps most importantly, his politics simply aren't the same as most at fox news right now.
The Albatross
Member
Must be at least partially related to Rupert Murdoch looking to hand the reigns of his media empire over to his heirs, and that's leading to more back-biting.
Plus, while it might not seem like it to people on the outside, the Trump presidency has been very divisive for conservatives, often pitting them against each other when they would have more comfortably been pitting against the Left. For really the first time ever, you see mainstream (neo)conservatives like John Podhoretz, Jonah Goldberg, or Bill Kristol being publicly critical of FOX. The Trump presidency was the motivator for this, as when Meghan Kelly and Trump had a public spat, this prompted many conservatives in the media/press to take sides, with the ideological neoconservative wing starting the "#NeverTrump" branch of the GOP/Conservatives, while Ailes mended his relationship with Trump, and FOX went onto be the official voice of his campaign.
But, largely, I think the motive here starts with Murdoch drawing down on his career and beginning to move on, and it's causing inner turmoil in the organization as people jockey for power. And who knows, big cable's sense of permanency has been challenged, and the 24-hour cable news channels may be next given ESPN's recent downturn (ESPN was once thought to be nearly untouchable ratings and profit wise, much like how we think FOX News has been). People who might have fought to stay in their positions or get new positions may be doing what the likes of Mike Greenberg (formerly ESPN) or Bill Simmons have done (or even Glenn Beck), launching their own, smaller, more targeted media organizations.
Launching a TV network in this day and age seems foolhardy in general - they'd probably have much greater luck with a web-focused media company seeing as more people are getting their content from it with each passing year.
Then again, the baby boomers they'd be trying to appeal to watch way more TV than anyone else, so...who knows.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
He's already having a cryptic meltdown on Twitter.
sounds like he may be leaving on his own
they're liberals
EatinOlives
Member
Trump's election ended up being a monkey's paw wish for conservatives, holy shit.
Roland_Gunner
Member
Fox is dealing with FIFTEEN race and gender lawsuits with more to come. Defending, and likely settling, all of that is going to be brutal for any organization. Plus it opens them up to charges of permitting a hostile work environment by the EEOC. The Murdochs have to clean house to get ahead of all of this.
This is pretty good.
terencecah
Member
wow lmao
RPGCrazied
Member
Are they? I thought they were same as daddy, but just not as bad.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Well Jesse Watters is saying he's coming back tonight...but we shall see
