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FRIDAYTON MK II: 5.5 million bears and salmon create unholy allliance to sack SONY HQ
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velociraptor
Junior Member
I really hope this is true. This does make more sense than the PS4 OS magically using 3.5GB though.
Put up or shut up.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Come dennis you should know it matters much more in a close box .
Cirekiller
Member
Looks like someone got confirmation (maybe) out of a dev...though the dev insists it's no big deal.
Honestly if this turns out to be true and Sony can show us why it is worth allocating that much RAM to the OS, I'm okay with it. It's not really the same as having to allocate an entire GB to Kinect, as it's all focused on one system.
This is the first console launch I've even tracked outside of the normal consumer experience, so while I know there are tons of revisions, I wasn't aware there could be a RAM limitation in their kits this close to launch. Revisions make sense though since not only the system, but the tools get better and closer to final spec in the months leading up to release.
If this is true about the dev kits, then we might see a bigger leap in 2-3 years than I was even expecting we'd see.
JoeTheBlow
Banned
"flexible buffer" my ass, this makes NO fucking sense, either the devs could use it safely or can't, if its not safe its not flexible and not worth the hassle.
If its true that this is just for the old/current devkits, then that flexible buffer neatly describes a debug scratchpad to output values to and monitor them in realtime by profiling tools.
Xbox One OS: 3GB of RAM
PS4 XMB 2: 3.5GB of RAM
Xbox One: 5 GB of RAM available to Game Devs
PS4: 4.5 GB of RAM available to Game Devs
wow
This is inaccurate.
Portugeezer
Member
Prepare to be pissed.
blurredvision
Member
As an Xbox One defender (but NOT fanboy, I'll own both consoles), this thread is beautiful. I'm not sold on this being true yet, but all feels even in the gaming world now.
Couldn't it be either?
(4GB+2GB) + (4GB+4GB) = 14GB
(4GB+4GB) + (4GB) = 12GB
(4GB+4GB) = 8GB
Well this thread has been fun to read.
As I said with the Xbone, ~3GB for a console OS is insane. It does make sense for both of them to have similar footprints if they wish to have similar features. This would actually sound impressive for Sony IMO if they could match MS' feature for feature while having a similar footprint size. That's a long way from the early PS3 days.
It's doubtful any dev would respond to this as the OS footprint is probably covered under NDA like it was this gen.
Nah, best guess is a repeat of how the PS3 OS worked. Features can be ignored for more memory. So, for example, you have 5GB if you don't use party chat, but 4.5GB if you do.
Are you saying it doesn't make sense to use that much GDDR5 memory for the OS? It does when that's the memory you're using. It would be more expensive to have a separate bank of memory for the OS alone.
As I said with the Xbone, ~3GB for a console OS is insane. It does make sense for both of them to have similar footprints if they wish to have similar features. This would actually sound impressive for Sony IMO if they could match MS' feature for feature while having a similar footprint size. That's a long way from the early PS3 days.
It's doubtful any dev would respond to this as the OS footprint is probably covered under NDA like it was this gen.
Nah, best guess is a repeat of how the PS3 OS worked. Features can be ignored for more memory. So, for example, you have 5GB if you don't use party chat, but 4.5GB if you do.
Are you saying it doesn't make sense to use that much GDDR5 memory for the OS? It does when that's the memory you're using. It would be more expensive to have a separate bank of memory for the OS alone.
It's still a conditional statement. There may or may not be 5.5GB available, depending on what the OS needs.
Phire Phox
Banned
LOL. So there is some RAM drama.
Well the few (or is it one?) people that preordered the system just for the RAM advantage have cancelled their preorder.
I for one found just the launch lineup of the PS4 way more interesting than the entire exclusives lineup MS showed off (only 2 MS games of real interest to me, and only 1 of them is a launch title).
Zombie James
Banned
Oh, Brad.
TwistedMind
Neo Member
Simply amazing hahaha
TheLegendary
Member
Wow. I guess the rumors yesterday were right.
Anyone with any semblance of foresight would recognize that Sony wouldn't want to be left out if (when) MS offers new OS level functionality that Sony couldnt react to
Anyone with any semblance of foresight would recognize that Sony wouldn't want to be left out if (when) MS offers new OS level functionality that Sony couldnt react to
BigJonsson
Member
I remember when having 32MB of RAM on my computer was a big deal! You all need to relax! Maybe they will add a virtual RAM booster or one of these lol
Ice cold.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb corroborates this Eurogamer article.
What is strange is how he got the technical difference between the two consoles wrong in May, if he knew about all this 3 months before the podcast was recorded.
(He was criticized a lot in the official giant bomb podcast thread for the downplaying of the well known specification advantages of the PS4.)
It's Brad Shoemaker and fucking Arthur "the secret sauce" Gies.
These guys have proven they know jack and shit about the either hardware during the last couple of months. No reason to start thinking they understand what they're talking about now. I'm not even saying they're wrong (they may be right), but there's no reason to listen to anything they have to say about hardware specs.
Mr.Monitor
Member
That makes sense to me. Honestly, this is one of those wait and see moments for me. I could believe both sides, so I'm just gonna wait until something is confirmed fact. Still, the whole 4.5 available thing is interesting if it's true. Aside from streaming and recording, I wonder what they're using that much memory for? Unannounced features? I also wonder what they'd be "turning off" to get that extra GB.
JonathanPower
Member
Damn, I hope this rumor is not true.
very plausible, heck Cerny's team might be testing prototype apps and functionality like Gaikai already, stuff that's not even supposed to come out many months after launch.
dragonfart28
Banned
Xbox One OS: 3GB of RAM
PS4 XMB 2: 3.5GB of RAM
Xbox One: 5 GB of RAM available to Game Devs
PS4: 4.5 GB of RAM available to Game Devs
wow
To be fair, it appears that there is 1 GB of leeway on PS4, giving them up to a 500 MB advantage over Xbone if the developers take advantage of it.
lol...it still contains 8GB GDDR5, no matter how you slice it.
Time to put or piss off. Bishop, would be very interested in your account.
because it makes sense.
1.000.000,38 is way more easy to read and grasp with a very quick glance than 1000000.38
iamshadowlark
Banned
Yeah GAF does always explode over something, that's for sure.
to some, a tragedy, to others, a comedy, and a few, a triumph
Dirk Benedict
Member
wtf is this
I just had a daydream that Sony was seducing me with a BIG, THICK Throbbing 8gb, it shrunk to 7gb, as they needed to keep some 'in reserve', I was OK with that, but suddenly it KEPT shrinking to 6, then five then 4.5(with the 'potential' to go to 5.5 and I was like...DO NOT WANT!
dragonfart28
Banned
Forgive my ignorance, but why would Brad have any investment in propagating a lie?
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
I was looking for brads email to write him. Couldn't find it 
Whats his gaf username?
I want him to know something before the live show coming today.
Whats his gaf username?
I want him to know something before the live show coming today.
I mean, if it makes you feel better, you could look at it like they are allocating at least 4.5GB to games. Basically putting a hard cap on concurrent memory usage by everything else on the system. In the future they could allocate more, but never less.
Marty Chinn
Member
Well maybe the PS4 would have more RAM available if Sony was focused on games.
King Allant
Member
lol can't believe I forgot about that
Yes, he's immortal.
davidbloop
Member
Where I come from that would be 1,000,000.38 but hey... I could be crazy
SlipperySlope
Banned
The fuck you talking about? Windows 7 uses up about 1 GB of RAM. It's the other programs you have running that take up the extra space. Which you should be shutting down if you're planning on playing a game.
A game could conceivably use about 7 GB of the 8 GB of RAM you have, if you shut down all nonessential services.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
It doesn't need to be double, just big enough to accommodate developer tools (such as debugging and logging tools). 4GB would surely be enough for that.