DeepEnigma
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And the warriors lap it up and run with the piper's song.they're still pushing this BS that this somehow creates MORE competition by removing third-parties?
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And the warriors lap it up and run with the piper's song.they're still pushing this BS that this somehow creates MORE competition by removing third-parties?
Pay very close to the politics of this going forward. The FTC has just entered into a big fight with Microsoft and one of the United States' most powerful Labor Unions with a very pro union President and Administration.
If the FTC hoped Microsoft would blink.. that has not happened. This isn't Nvidia they're dealing with.
The FTC's job is to protect consumers, not competitors. The FTC better pray they at least get a judge that will have a temperament for this silly case, or else it could be over for the FTC a lot quicker than people think.
WTF is this shit?
Microsoft: "While we believed in giving peace a chance, we have complete confidence in our case and welcome the opportunity to present our case in court."
I can’t believe MS are sanctioning statements like this
Peace = let us do what we want unaposed?
Yeah, that’s what John Lennon’s message was.
I like how you can almost see the tears starting to form. He just knows the win is short lived.
Until a few days ago when people were swayed by the onslaught of PR stories from MS, this is what everyone expected to happen, and had been discussed for weeks beforehand.Waiting for the plethora of downplaying posts.
This does not look good for the deal. It will be later than expected if at all.
I think they should make every exclusive and marketing deal possible just like Sony does. Acquisitions will certainly not happen.No matter how it ends and what their plans were MS will have their hands tied behind their backs for a year or two regarding exclusivity deals, they’ll try to not look bad now.
Pretty much this.
Just delaying the inevitable.
Is this what people called: copium?The fact its going to court is in all honestly a good position for them. Better then relying on governing body that can rule the way of the wind. actual facts and not conjecture will be used in court. When its said and done, they will win and have no concessions for sony.
Pay very close to the politics of this going forward. The FTC has just entered into a big fight with Microsoft and one of the United States' most powerful Labor Unions with a very pro union President and Administration.
If the FTC hoped Microsoft would blink.. that has not happened. This isn't Nvidia they're dealing with.
The FTC's job is to protect consumers, not competitors. The FTC better pray they at least get a judge that will have a temperament for this silly case, or else it could be over for the FTC a lot quicker than people think.
Looks like MS isn't going to take this sitting down:
They "gangsta," yo!Giving peace a chance? WTF does that even mean lol.
Nice drama, but MS wil win
Still gonna happen.
Are you aware that this is exactly what Sony did with the PS1 ?They need to learn that they have to earn their marketshare, not buy their way to success.
But the deadline is June 2023, so it falls through automatically if it's not closed by then, right?Yep, unless one backs down the deal is not going through in 2023 now, regardless of the outcome of the case.
This is MicroSofts 4th console gen.Are you aware that this is exactly what Sony did with the PS1 ?
Honestly, I thought CMA and EU would try to block it, and FTC would just let it pass.Depends if the CMA and EU joins in as well. That would certainly complicate things further.
It's just a waiting game at this point.
That would take actual effort, talent and time.My question to everyone is this...
Microsoft have the deepest pockets on earth. Yet, throughout their gaming history their approach has been to swallow IP and publishers to get ahead. Why are they so averse to creating their own games and IP?
Oh, well if that is the case then I guess this will be fast tracked. I'm just used to anything involving courts taking a billion years for anything to happen.But the deadline is June 2023, so it falls through automatically if it's not closed by then, right?
How can MS possibly win this now?
Are you aware that this is exactly what Sony did with the PS1 ?
Pay very close to the politics of this going forward. The FTC has just entered into a big fight with Microsoft and one of the United States' most powerful Labor Unions with a very pro union President and Administration.
If the FTC hoped Microsoft would blink.. that has not happened. This isn't Nvidia they're dealing with.
The FTC's job is to protect consumers, not competitors. The FTC better pray they at least get a judge that will have a temperament for this silly case, or else it could be over for the FTC a lot quicker than people think.
No, they said they expected it to close before then, it's not a hard deadline.But the deadline is June 2023, so it falls through automatically if it's not closed by then, right?
I'm not sure, to be honest, I was asking. If my understanding is correct, though, I think this deal is pretty much f'ed.Oh, well if that is the case then I guess this will be fast tracked. I'm just used to anything involving courts taking a billion years for anything to happen.
It's in the nature of big tech, or any big enough corporation, to buy out smaller competitors.My question to everyone is this...
Microsoft have the deepest pockets on earth. Yet, throughout their gaming history their approach has been to swallow IP and publishers to get ahead. Why are they so averse to creating their own games and IP?
Looks like MS isn't going to take this sitting down:
They won’t do any new exclusivity for awhile, it would directly hurt their case when their defence is that they want more people to play the games.I think they should make every exclusive and marketing deal possible just like Sony does. Acquisitions will certainly not happen.
They did.I don't think Sony bought a huge publisher back then. But I could be wrong since I'm not familiar with that history. At the time all I cared about was my PS1 games. Plus my N64 was awesome as well. So many good memories.
Well if they go past the closing date they initially agreed upon, they’ll have to renegotiate the deal & things just get more complicated from there, especially if the CMA & EU go for the block.But the deadline is June 2023, so it falls through automatically if it's not closed by then, right?
Yep, unless one backs down the deal is not going through in 2023 now, regardless of the outcome of the case.
They did.
I thought this deal was practically sealed since Phil Spencer went out public with that 10-year deal of CoD on Nintendo platforms. Weird.
They are making grandiose proclamations about an intellectual property that they don't own. The theatrical motives become even more apparent when considering the increased vitriol playing out in public arena over the past week. These announcements are just a continuation of that. There is zero substance behind it. Unfortunately, select few here (they know who they are) won't put aside their platform affiliation to submit towards logical reasoning.
That would take actual effort, talent and time.
Giving peace a chance? WTF does that even mean lol.
They didn't. People are acting like Psygnosis was this massive publisher, they weren't. And they still published Psygnosis games on other platforms before dissolving them into Sony SCEE after building them up bigger than they ever were. They did not go 3 (arguably) failing gens in a row before wanting to buy the largest 3rd party publishers in the world with all of those IPs and dev studios.I don't think Sony bought a huge publisher back then. But I could be wrong since I'm not familiar with that history. At the time all I cared about was my PS1 games. Plus my N64 was awesome as well. So many good memories.