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Deleted member 59090
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35" actually but at the same 3440x1440 resolution.
G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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35" actually but at the same 3440x1440 resolution.
The 'R' just denotes retail packaging
This is a TN panel, it was over on slickdeals during the last sale:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/270932
I've had mine for a little over a year, it had been great.
Yes, you can trim off the 'r' as someone else said.
Oh ok.
Sure TN:s have improved but they are still soooo far away from IPS, I would never personally get TN again.
IPS:
TN:
Yeah for me viewing angles isn't a big deal for my PC monitor. As someone rocking the last plasma made by Samsung, they are for my TV. If you want better viewing angles then you should be aware of the issues. I was more talking about the color reproduction.
My old TN monitor practically had a piss filter on it. This was a $200 monitor over 10 years old at this point. I went a period of time only getting IPS displays, this one made me reconsider my stance. At half the price, it had better quality control and didn't have any deal breakers for me when comapred to high refresh rate gsync IPS options.
Hey GAF so I bought the Asus PG279Q for $780, it got delivered today. I also just went out and purchased 3 Acer XB271HU from Costco for $500 each. I'm testing each one right now for backlight bleed and dead pixel.
I only need 1, what should I do? keep one of the Acer monitor? or keep the Asus one? Help me. what do you think it's better?
I only need 1, what should I do? keep one of the Acer monitor? or keep the Asus one? Help me. what do you think it's better?
The Acer is generally regarded as being slightly better, given that it's a newer revision of the panel that's in the Asus.
petran79
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I have an issue with Ikaruga and some other games. I have a Gsync laptop that supports 75hz/fps.
When I play full screen, Ikaruga framerate speed drops to 40fps and game plays slower than intended speed (60fps). If I play game on windowed mode, speed is 60fps.
Is there any settings I need to change in Nvidia controp panel or Nvidia Inspector?
Tried changing the monitor type in NVCP to standard but it makes no difference.
When I play full screen, Ikaruga framerate speed drops to 40fps and game plays slower than intended speed (60fps). If I play game on windowed mode, speed is 60fps.
Is there any settings I need to change in Nvidia controp panel or Nvidia Inspector?
Tried changing the monitor type in NVCP to standard but it makes no difference.
Random_Guy
Member
Hey guys, I'm deciding between getting a XB271HU or a Predator X34.
While the ultra wide X34 provides an awesome immersive experience, I am tending more towards the XB271HU for a couple reasons:
- Native 144 Hz vs the overclocked 100Hz of the X34
- I have a 1070 and the lower resolution of the XB271HU should allow me to play games at higher settings for a couple years (I dont plan on upgrading my gpu anytime soon)
What do you guys think?
While the ultra wide X34 provides an awesome immersive experience, I am tending more towards the XB271HU for a couple reasons:
- Native 144 Hz vs the overclocked 100Hz of the X34
- I have a 1070 and the lower resolution of the XB271HU should allow me to play games at higher settings for a couple years (I dont plan on upgrading my gpu anytime soon)
What do you guys think?
JoeyJungle
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I've got an Asus PG279Q and hooked up my PS4 Pro to it over the HDMI, and it doesn't look like the monitor can receive Full RGB over HDMI from a 1080p 60hz signal? Anyone have experience with this or know if there's a solution?
Is there a link to Acer having a newer revision of the panel?
I'd say get the XB271HU because by the time 4K HDR monitor become affordable in a couple of years. It would be benefit from you running a 1070 or whatever you'll have at the time.
1440p is the sweet spot right now between price and performance.
It's hard to nail down that it's a newer revision, but it's certainly a different one.
Teardown findings.
Panel comparison.
terencecah
Member
X34 is a good time. But it would get something cheaper, especially if there's a new ultrawide coming out
Just hooked up my ASUS PG279Q and 1080 TI FE.
OMG, I did not know games could look this amazing. Ultra settings in Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Doom run buttery smooth. I just can't get over it.
OMG, I did not know games could look this amazing. Ultra settings in Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Doom run buttery smooth. I just can't get over it.
I have the same card as you, and I picked up an XB271HU a few weeks ago.
Given the opportunity, I would do nothing different. It is amazing. Everything I play is max settings, and I'm in the 80-144 fps range virtually the entire time. The hype is real.
Fachasaurus
Member
Anyone know if there is an option somewhere to have the GSYNC ON badge to be smaller or relocated?
I just got an Asus 34 Ultrawide and want to make sure GSYNC is on, but I don't want the indicator to be enormous and obnoxious!
I just got an Asus 34 Ultrawide and want to make sure GSYNC is on, but I don't want the indicator to be enormous and obnoxious!
I managed to get myself to a Microcenter this past weekend and got a chance to see a bunch of G-Sync monitors first hand and suffice it to say, they were glorious. I've been mentally planning a new of build and have a G Sync monitor in mind for it. I do my lions share of game on PS4 these days and recently got a PS4 Pro. Anyone get any serious mileage out of a PS4 Pro and a G Sync monitor outside of 1080p. I only came across one that supported 4K at the store and I can't imagine the wide ones would probably work with a Pro outside of 1080p( which I assume would look weird on a wide monitor?).
CadetMahoney
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Right now I'm used to 1080p screen at 27inches. I'd have to get used to a further condensed image across the same 27inches:
I would need at least 32inch for 1440p gysnc, but those prices.
So I picked up a PG348 and I love it so far.
I've been using a 46" TV as a monitor for years now, and had a number of concerns about the PG348 - mainly:
Due to the matte screen coating, contrast doesn't seem to be an issue if you are in anything but a pitch-black room.
EDIT: Higher contrast would still be better of course, but I don't find it to look bad outside of a dark room. Side-by-side and the difference is very noticeable.
Viewing angle presents such a problem for my 16:9 TV's VA panel that I would hate this to be using one. IPS was the right choice despite the lower contrast.
The curve is noticeable if I'm looking for it, but I don't think I could have pulled the screen in so close if it was flat. Don't notice it at all in games.
However I'm having issues with quite a few games. Perhaps I just happened to pick bad games to try, but SOMA, Dishonored 2, NieR:Automata, and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided still stutter badly despite G-Sync being enabled.
Skyrim SE doesn't seem to use G-Sync at all, I just get screen tearing at 60 FPS.
I'm sure that it's doing something to help, but they still feel pretty bad.
Meanwhile the original Dishonored running at 3440x1440 with 4x SGSSAA was just perfectly smooth the entire time.
Is this a common issue? At first I assumed that there was something set up wrongly, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
I do seem to have to cap the framerate at 87 FPS in RTSS to prevent games from ever enabling V-Sync.
It's interesting to see how much RTSS' stats seem to lag behind the screen when you have the monitor's own 'FPS counter' enabled.
At 88 FPS and above, it would briefly flash 100 FPS for a moment at times, which RTSS completely missed.
Are there any video players which work with G-Sync?
Though the panel is 100Hz, it doesn't seem to accept a custom 96/72/48Hz refresh rate and 24 FPS playback at 100Hz is really bad.
That might end up being the thing which drives me to return it and wait for 144Hz displays in Q4'17 or Q1'18 - whenever they arrive.
EDIT: Selecting the 95Hz overclock allows for a custom 96Hz mode. A media player supporting G-Sync, or a 120Hz display would be easier though.
Trying this has definitely confirmed that I will not be waiting for the PG27UQ.
3440x1440 is demanding enough, and despite my preference for big 16:9 panels - which the PG27UQ is not - at monitor sizes 21:9 is really nice.
I've been using a 46" TV as a monitor for years now, and had a number of concerns about the PG348 - mainly:
- 34" 21:9 is a lot smaller than 46" 16:9
- 1000:1 IPS panel is a lot lower contrast than a 5000:1 VA panel with local dimming
- The screen is curved rather than flat
Due to the matte screen coating, contrast doesn't seem to be an issue if you are in anything but a pitch-black room.
EDIT: Higher contrast would still be better of course, but I don't find it to look bad outside of a dark room. Side-by-side and the difference is very noticeable.
Viewing angle presents such a problem for my 16:9 TV's VA panel that I would hate this to be using one. IPS was the right choice despite the lower contrast.
The curve is noticeable if I'm looking for it, but I don't think I could have pulled the screen in so close if it was flat. Don't notice it at all in games.
However I'm having issues with quite a few games. Perhaps I just happened to pick bad games to try, but SOMA, Dishonored 2, NieR:Automata, and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided still stutter badly despite G-Sync being enabled.
Skyrim SE doesn't seem to use G-Sync at all, I just get screen tearing at 60 FPS.
I'm sure that it's doing something to help, but they still feel pretty bad.
Meanwhile the original Dishonored running at 3440x1440 with 4x SGSSAA was just perfectly smooth the entire time.
Is this a common issue? At first I assumed that there was something set up wrongly, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
I do seem to have to cap the framerate at 87 FPS in RTSS to prevent games from ever enabling V-Sync.
It's interesting to see how much RTSS' stats seem to lag behind the screen when you have the monitor's own 'FPS counter' enabled.
At 88 FPS and above, it would briefly flash 100 FPS for a moment at times, which RTSS completely missed.
Are there any video players which work with G-Sync?
Though the panel is 100Hz, it doesn't seem to accept a custom 96/72/48Hz refresh rate and 24 FPS playback at 100Hz is really bad.
That might end up being the thing which drives me to return it and wait for 144Hz displays in Q4'17 or Q1'18 - whenever they arrive.
EDIT: Selecting the 95Hz overclock allows for a custom 96Hz mode. A media player supporting G-Sync, or a 120Hz display would be easier though.
Trying this has definitely confirmed that I will not be waiting for the PG27UQ.
3440x1440 is demanding enough, and despite my preference for big 16:9 panels - which the PG27UQ is not - at monitor sizes 21:9 is really nice.
Lockjaw333
Member
So are 1080p gsync IPS panels not really available? I've seen a few TN ones at 1080p, but no IPS.
The only reason I'm hesitant to go with 1440p is because I also have my consoles on my desk connected to my monitor. Not trying to play with whatever funky scaling 1080p console games would have on a 1440p panel. I'd much prefer a 1080p one at this point, and was also hoping that might cut cost a bit.
I currently have a Dell U2414H, an absolutely excellent 1080p IPS 60hz panel. I can't even look at a TN panel anymore. I even use a colorimeter, the x-rite colormunki​ display to be precise, and my previous TN (Asus vs248h-p) still looks horribly inferior even after calibration.
The u2414h IPS looks PRISTINE after calibration. I need IPS!
The only reason I'm hesitant to go with 1440p is because I also have my consoles on my desk connected to my monitor. Not trying to play with whatever funky scaling 1080p console games would have on a 1440p panel. I'd much prefer a 1080p one at this point, and was also hoping that might cut cost a bit.
I currently have a Dell U2414H, an absolutely excellent 1080p IPS 60hz panel. I can't even look at a TN panel anymore. I even use a colorimeter, the x-rite colormunki​ display to be precise, and my previous TN (Asus vs248h-p) still looks horribly inferior even after calibration.
The u2414h IPS looks PRISTINE after calibration. I need IPS!
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I'm pretty sure gsync doesn't work with a PS4 pro
Nope, only TN or VA at FHD.
I managed to get my Z271 to look pretty much like my U2414H, unless viewed at a really severe angle (and even then, the color shift is rather mild compared to TN panels).
Here's U2414H and here's Z271 for comparison.
Although that model seems to have some issues with sustained output at 144Hz while gaming. No issues for me so far, other than a single instance of the problem happening with PES2017. Might be because I usually try to up the graphical presets to reach ~100 fps, and not the full refresh rate.
Right now I'm used to 1080p screen at 27inches. I'd have to get used to a further condensed image across the same 27inches:
I would need at least 32inch for 1440p gysnc, but those prices.
Haha, i think 28inch for 1440p is just fine. But we have 28inch 4k monitors at work and everybody runs them with 150-200% zoom in windows, so that you can read stuff
Haha, i think 28inch for 1440p is just fine. But we have 28inch 4k monitors at work and everybody runs them with 150-200% zoom in windows, so that you can read stuff
No, the joke is on people who think <28, 32" and/or etc is too small for 1440p, 4K and/or above. Sure, you may have to zoom in to read text, but with the higher DPI, they more clear and crisp. That's not even mention how much better graphically games look. And, no, downsampling to 1080p isn't the same.
Devast8nDiscoDave81
Neo Member
Gsync monitors are for Nvidia GPU PCs only.
Lockjaw333
Member
Does 1080p look awful on a 1440 display? Honestly that's whats holding me back, as I said I do use my consoles at my desk.
Not terrible but it's definitely not gonna be as good as 1080p content on 1080p or 4k.
I'm on 1080p g-sync and only going to upgrade to 4k 144hz+. Not because of consoles but because I want the fallback of 1080p performance (especially for high frame rates in competitive games) with the same IQ as I have now. With 1440p I'd have to settle for worse than native 1080p or 720p if I want perfect scaling .
Really depends on how much you play on your consoles. It's not garbage or anything, still looks quite good. I personally wouldn't bother with purchasing 1080p at this point, however.
Virtually no displays simply double the pixels when scaling 1080p to 4K - so you get blurry filtered scaling regardless.
I'm aware, I'm just curious of people's experiencing using these monitors with their PS4 Pro in particular. The G Sync is for my PC. I'll be playing my PS4 Pro on my inevitable G Sync monitor so I'm looking into people's experiences with them.
The same as any other monitor in whatever resolution you're looking for.
I honestly have no idea how the PS4 handles non-standard resolutions... Remember it's built for TVs, I don't think it would know what to do with a 1440p monitor. I imagine it would default to 1080p and you'd end up with a blurry image from the upscale.
You're better off using the PS4 with a television.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
It'd be the exact same as any other monitor at 24" of whatever
You can use it without scaling so there is black bars, then its just like 1080p
Check for fixes on internet.
Some games stutter because of bad engines or other reasons. Gsync only solves framepacing issues.
Dishonored 2 is very VRAM hungry and swaps a lot on ULTRA, for example. Some other games have hardcoded Vsync (see Skyrim below).
For those of you having issues starting the game with GSync. I may have found a fix.
Go into the Skyrim Prefs ini file located next to Saves. Go down to iVsyncpresentinterval and change to 0. Sve. Re-enable GSync and bam, no more glitches.
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[URL="https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512291865418518/[/URL]
Some games stutter because of bad engines or other reasons. Gsync only solves framepacing issues.
Dishonored 2 is very VRAM hungry and swaps a lot on ULTRA, for example. Some other games have hardcoded Vsync (see Skyrim below).
For those of you having issues starting the game with GSync. I may have found a fix.
Go into the Skyrim Prefs ini file located next to Saves. Go down to iVsyncpresentinterval and change to 0. Sve. Re-enable GSync and bam, no more glitches.
also
[URL="https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512291865418518/[/URL]
Yes, I have been doing that.
I think I just picked a very unfortunate set of games to try, as many of them don't seem to work well with G-Sync.
That said, something weird happens and it will sometimes get locked to a very low framerate (as reported by RTSS) while the screen thinks it's running at a much higher refresh rate for no apparent reason. Not sure what has been causing that.
The Evil Within, which runs on id Tech 5, looked absolutely terrible until I reset my PC and then disabled V-Sync - however I have to launch the game with V-Sync enabled first or else G-Sync never seems to activate.
Once it's working correctly, it is absolutely amazing though.
I just thought it was a bit more universal than it seems to be.
I've been having problems even on the lowest settings.
However it's been curious. RTSS reports a constant framerate, while the display sees the framerate dropping as much as 20 FPS for a fraction of a second, and this just keeps cycling - but quickly enough that RTSS' 100ms polling rate doesn't catch it.
I believe this to be accurate, and it might explain why the performance in Dishonored 2 is so bad.
Thanks for that, but I did try all of those suggestions and still couldn't get it working. I'll have to give it another try later.
EDIT: I had to hit the 'Turbo' button on the monitor to switch it back to 100Hz in Fullscreen; the game was switching it to 60Hz. Borderless Windowed Mode also works.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Any indication when that awesome Asus monitor is coming out? Q3?
I have no problem with Evil Within. You have to disable Vsync with swapinterval 0 command on launch. I assume you did that.
Yes, but if I add +r_swapInterval 0 to the launch options in Steam it doesn't start in G-Sync mode, and even changing it doesn't cause it to kick in.
It has to be started normally and then V-Sync disabled via the console for it to work.
Which is fine, just not as straightforward as I thought it would be.
As I said, I've been very impressed with the results once it's actually working.
I was relying on gpu scaling and just assumed integer scaling was implemented but seems that neither AMD nor Nvidia have done it, yet...
Does it?
I was under the impression framepacing and CPU related issues (asset streaming/decompression) are something G-Sync doesn't fix.
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Deleted member 245925
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Quick question: Does Gsync utilize multiples in its variable refresh rates? E.g. if a game runs at ~45 FPS on a 100 Hz Gsync monitor, does the refresh rate match the FPS (= ~45 Hz) or could it also refresh at 2x the FPS (so ~90 Hz). Would it even make a perceivable difference?
Framepacing. The monitor adapt itself to the length of each frame. This is ok as long as the frame does not last more than 1/30th of a sec, which is the limit for gsync to work. More, you will get stutter.
CPU halt and streaming stuttering or bad frame engine (for example, frames do not arrive in the good order to the monitor) : no solution.
It uses multiples when the framerate drops below the panel's minimum refresh rate.
Ideally you would always match the refresh rate to exactly the frame rate instead of a multiple, but there should not really be much of a difference with G-Sync.
Yes. Most panels seem to support a minimum of 40 Hz. Anything below that and doubling, tripling or quadrupling is employed. In your specific example most displays will show 45 fps at 45 Hz.
This graph from PCPer illustrates the behaviour.
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Deleted member 245925
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Yes. Most panels seem to support a minimum of 40 Hz. Anything below that and doubling, tripling or quadrupling is employed. In your specific example most displays will show 45 fps at 45 Hz.
This graph from PCPer illustrates the behaviour.
Interesting, thanks for the info.