Oh dear, you can diss me all you want, but let's not get personal there with my university, shall we ?Boogie said:You go to Western, I understand.![]()
Oh dear, you can diss me all you want, but let's not get personal there with my university, shall we ?Boogie said:You go to Western, I understand.![]()
Azih said:You know Fatghost, what you're proposing is basically very similar to the American Health care system and uh.. they spend MORE than we do (as percentage of GDP) and have worse average care.
Sure rich Americans have some of the best healthcare in the world, but poor americans get fucked.
Then you might be quite dissapointed when people richer than you kept on nodging into the line in front of youKabuki Waq said:Frankly i dont go see the doctor often i wouldnt mind lower taxes and paying a bit for healthcare when i need it. Dont want it US levels tho.
Fatghost28 said:Doesn't matter how you vote. It's up to you. You could be polite and thank me for funding your education and health care though if you're gonna insist on free riding on me
Edit: Just caught your edit, and frankly this is something about Canada I don't understand. It's like it's a given that we must as Canadians believe in socialized health care. It's as if Socialized Health Care(tm) is the defining characteristic of Canada, and frankly that's fucking sad. Our system is a cash hog, it's bloated, it doesn't work well, doctors and nurses don't get paid what they deserve, the infrastructure is crumbling, the delivery mechanisms are unwieldy, entire communities are not served well or even at all, and yet we spend more per capita on health care than almost every other country. Our system doesn't fucking work and yet most Canadians would say health care is our fucking national identity.
I don't get it. I just don't. Don't any of you want a health care system where you could see a doctor within an hour or get treatment within a reasonable time? A system where you're getting value for your money and where you can get a doctor no matter where you live?
Because as someone who has medical conditions, I can tell you we already HAVE a two tiered system. The very wealthy or desperate just go outside the country for treatment, or else have connections within the system where a doctor makes room in their schedule to see someone, while everyone else is frozen out of the system.
ME. Like you said, all of the other choices are really no choice at all. God, sometimes this country makes me want to strangle a manatee in the nude.....argh...TheOMan said:However, who would you rather have in power Bishop?
explodet said:Martin to Canadians: "Up yours, Gagliano!"
EDIT: Man, Harper is just savaging Martin. This could be getting personal.
Memles said:Harper took full advantage of Martin's play to save face and rightfully eviscerated him. I still think he's wrong for the country, but Martin dropped the ball with this move and Harper picked it up and nailed him in the face with it.
Boogie said:Ooh, what's happened? I was at Jiu-jitsu, so I'm in the dark.
Never did he speak of the devil, hell, even or Jesus... What were you on?Memles said:Duceppe: "Liberals are traitorous bastards who should rot in hell" (Or: Party Line)
Laurent said:Never did he speak of the devil, hell, even or Jesus... What were you on?
Boogie said:Umm, it's obvious he was exaggerating for humourous effect, calm down dude![]()
Boogie said:I just read the transcripts.
I know I'm biased, but it seems like Harper really owned Martin there.
Laurent said:I am all with making fun of this stupid move, but religious comments should have been used while laughing of the Conservative Party... Anyway...
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LIBÉREZ-NOUS DES LIBÉRAUX!
Well, you can't really talk about HELL without stating your religious belief... It seems obvious to me!Memles said:...where did I tallk about religion, exactly? I said "Hell" and that was it...there was no religious comment in there. I was stressing how very angry Duceppe seemed, more than anything else. His speech was one of frustration, anger and almost rage against the Liberals...if you see religion in every use of the word hell, I'm confused but at least understand your confusion.
Laurent said:Well, you can't really talk about HELL without stating your religious belief... It seems obvious to me!
This may not be an internationnal convention. One thing is for sure, you can't talk about HELL in french without refering to a religious belief... I wasn't aware that this concept was removed from it's religious rooth in the english language...Memles said:Wait a second...you're saying that hell isn't a secular ideal?
Do tell, because as far as I'm concerned Hell has become as far removed from religion as it could possibly get.
Laurent said:This may not be an internationnal convention. One thing is for sure, you can't talk about HELL in french without refering to a religious belief... I wasn't aware that this concept was removed from it's religious rooth in the english language...
That expression in french (which is a version of "Va donc chez le diable!") isn't used anymore nowdays... Anyway, sorry for taking that thing too seriously!Memles said:It is impossible to remove the roots of something...but at the same time people forget it. When people say "Go to hell" they are not silently plotting an actual descent into the Earth and the religious meanings of the term. I'm not saying that "Hell" as an idea has becoming secular, but the word itself is more of a less offensive expletive than it is a representation of faith.