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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol
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I just got it for the features will report back with impressions in a little.
No impressions required. It's dope. You even quoted my thoughts on it. I'm good.
Syph Medwes
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.....so there's a rapper named Syph now lol
Oh okay
I wonder who that is
There's some truth in this, but there's some space to explore.
Gotta give Young Thug some credit. He has a great ear for beats, is extremely productive and has a strong work ethic, and on a rapping level has established himself as the true evolution and heir to Lil Wayne style wise. He has some great singles, and overall I enjoy his projects. Whatever you say about him, nobody's really doing anything his way better (yet).
On the other hand, I find the aggrandizement of his artistic merit (like in that trash Des post) funny af . Why would anyone buy a Young Thug project or buy into him hardcore as an artist? His content is super super pedestrian and honestly bland. There's always this talk about him being a game-changer for rap gender norms wise, breaking all the boundaries etc. Even outside of the straight up gay/queer le1f and co scene there are mainstream rappers doing numbers above him dressing and acting effetely (ASAP, Kanye) . It's amazing how much pro-LGBT credit he's been given for a couple 'pause-worthy' punchlines and a couple gram videos with some ambiguous lines about dicks.
What content is he putting into his music that's so laudable from that perspective? Does he have any songs or projects specifically about struggling with perceptions of masculinity and/or homosexuality? Basically what I'm asking is, has Young Thug ever addressed any of this supposed gender convention smashing on any real, direct, meaningful level? The answer to that question is no. Does Young Thug's music have any content that addresses anything on any level? Personal? Societal/Cultural? No, not really. Musically doesn't really set himself apart on a from any of his trap peers aside from his flows.
I really shouldn't even be effort posting about this, because when you get down to it you can basically sum up his entire career in one sentence:
beats hot flow straight check out this bar with them dicks haha
MuddyDonut
Member
Ooo long form posts? Let's see who we're talking about...
Young thug
Young thug
So many words saying nothing of value. #BlessYoungThugThere's some truth in this, but there's some space to explore.
Gotta give Young Thug some credit. He has a great ear for beats, is extremely productive and has a strong work ethic, and on a rapping level has established himself as the true evolution and heir to Lil Wayne style wise. He has some great singles, and overall I enjoy his projects. Whatever you say about him, nobody's really doing anything his way better (yet).
On the other hand, I find the aggrandizement of his artistic merit (like in that trash Des post) funny af . Why would anyone buy a Young Thug project or buy into him hardcore as an artist? His content is super super pedestrian and honestly bland. There's always this talk about him being a game-changer for rap gender norms wise, breaking all the boundaries etc. Even outside of the straight up gay/queer le1f and co scene there are mainstream rappers doing numbers above him dressing and acting effetely (ASAP, Kanye) . It's amazing how much pro-LGBT credit he's been given for a couple 'pause-worthy' punchlines and a couple gram videos with some ambiguous lines about dicks.
What content is he putting into his music that's so laudable from that perspective? Does he have any songs or projects specifically about struggling with perceptions of masculinity and/or homosexuality? Basically what I'm asking is, has Young Thug ever addressed any of this supposed gender convention smashing on any real, direct, meaningful level? The answer to that question is no. Does Young Thug's music have any content that addresses anything on any level? Personal? Societal/Cultural? No, not really. Musically doesn't really set himself apart on a from any of his trap peers aside from his flows.
I really shouldn't even be effort posting about this, because when you get down to it you can basically sum up his entire career in one sentence:
beats hot flow straight check out this bar with them dicks haha
internetwolf
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Thugger the best in the game right now
best and most thorough post on this page
There's some truth in this, but there's some space to explore.
Gotta give Young Thug some credit. He has a great ear for beats, is extremely productive and has a strong work ethic, and on a rapping level has established himself as the true evolution and heir to Lil Wayne style wise. He has some great singles, and overall I enjoy his projects. Whatever you say about him, nobody's really doing anything his way better (yet).
On the other hand, I find the aggrandizement of his artistic merit (like in that trash Des post) funny af . Why would anyone buy a Young Thug project or buy into him hardcore as an artist? His content is super super pedestrian and honestly bland. There's always this talk about him being a game-changer for rap gender norms wise, breaking all the boundaries etc. Even outside of the straight up gay/queer le1f and co scene there are mainstream rappers doing numbers above him dressing and acting effetely (ASAP, Kanye) . It's amazing how much pro-LGBT credit he's been given for a couple 'pause-worthy' punchlines and a couple gram videos with some ambiguous lines about dicks.
What content is he putting into his music that's so laudable from that perspective? Does he have any songs or projects specifically about struggling with perceptions of masculinity and/or homosexuality? Basically what I'm asking is, has Young Thug ever addressed any of this supposed gender convention smashing on any real, direct, meaningful level? The answer to that question is no. Does Young Thug's music have any content that addresses anything on any level? Personal? Societal/Cultural? No, not really. Musically doesn't really set himself apart on a from any of his trap peers aside from his flows.
I really shouldn't even be effort posting about this, because when you get down to it you can basically sum up his entire career in one sentence:
beats hot flow straight check out this bar with them dicks haha
This post is like a Young Thug project: a ton of content, lots of bland talk but I still fuck with it on a base level
spindashing
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internetwolf
Banned
smokin a fat carrot while we fly above the haters
Fucking mainstream rappers and their fans.
Black Republican
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can someone tell me why the fuck Dre dont supply KDot with any beats? 
Even Game gets some and he aint on Aftermath no more, like wtf
Even Game gets some and he aint on Aftermath no more, like wtf
You have to ask for them, that's why.can someone tell me why the fuck Dre dont supply KDot with any beats?
Even Game gets some and he aint on Aftermath no more, like wtf
internetwolf
Banned
you the fam
The Artful Dodger
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I enjoy listening to Thug here and there but I find him kinda bland too. Idk I feel like he has to keep his output up, cause unless you're hardcore into him, you just sorta forget about him. He has to stay in the public eye or fade.
That's not really an insult. Credit to him for being able to stay on the scene for so long, I thought he'd be a novelty that would wear off (he still might be *shrug* )
That's not really an insult. Credit to him for being able to stay on the scene for so long, I thought he'd be a novelty that would wear off (he still might be *shrug* )
internetwolf
Banned
This new Wiz is hot
I don't get bland at all, like I don't even know where you're coming from with that
The Artful Dodger
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Meaningless Provocation isn't necessarily Art. Thug is playing around with ideas, fer sure. But he's not really saying anything other than "look how sexually ambiguous I am." You mentioned The Sex Pistols, well...they rose and fell pretty quickly and they had a bit more to say (not much more).
At this point, it's blandness in the sense that there is so much going on that it all fades. Young Thug's style is bland to me not because nothing's going on, but because there's quite a bit going on without anything actually happening or being said. That's bland to me.
internetwolf
Banned
Thug is the opposite of bland to me
he's lit that's not bland to me
he's lit that's not bland to me
How do you feel about future?
The Artful Dodger
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He's growing on me. I had the same feeling initially, so I mean this isn't a set in stone opinion on either.
can someone tell me why the fuck Dre dont supply KDot with any beats?
Even Game gets some and he aint on Aftermath no more, like wtf
Kendrick can get better production in-house (Digi+Phonics and THC) and there are many producers (that are better than Dre) that would give him a beat instantly. Besides, when's the last time Dre made a hot beat?
Agree. It's glossing over and thus isn't really controversial or provocative at all except on a haha dicks surface level. Kind of like how Marilyn Manson is externally shocking and effete and sexually perverse but when you get down to it his music doesn't really have a next level to it, ultimately the aim is just to BE or act different but with little explanation as to why
Future themes his projects a little better
That's fair enough. I'm starting to feel like future gets more of a pass for his nonsensical meaningless lyrics than thug for whatever reason which is the reason I ask.
The Artful Dodger
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Yeah, I get the impression that Future is more consciously playing with ideas and dipping into surrealism which is why I give him a bit more of a pass.
I think Young Thug might get there, I just don't think he's there yet.
Storm Chamber
Banned
Beats are better and he's more coherent
It's probably just DS2 hype talking because the album actually lived up to it. I'm guilty too.
internetwolf
Banned
March Madness > DS2
Stick Talk tho. Otherwise I agree.
Rastafarian42
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It's hard to argue against DS2 as Future's best project of the year, but...
March Madness
Trap Niggas
56 Nights
Diamonds From Africa
...are all 💯💯💯-tier Future. I feel like Beast Mode gets slept on a bit, it has the most distinct sound out of the four imo, but it doesn't really have any major stand outs like 56 Nights. It's crazy if M2 comes out this year since we'll have at least several more tracks in the mix. 🙏
March Madness
Trap Niggas
56 Nights
Diamonds From Africa
...are all 💯💯💯-tier Future. I feel like Beast Mode gets slept on a bit, it has the most distinct sound out of the four imo, but it doesn't really have any major stand outs like 56 Nights. It's crazy if M2 comes out this year since we'll have at least several more tracks in the mix. 🙏
internetwolf
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Rastafarian42
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Definitely Zaytoven's piano keys fit well with Future's melodies I feel the whole tape is fire.
DS2 > Monster > Beast Mode > 56 Nights
IrishNinja
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50 expressing thoughts on vivica all day on IG
also still gotta give the non-DS2 future projects of this year a spin, but got caught up this weekend & still haven't even heard goldlink
rap game UNCHARTED = GOTY CAUSE I PLAYED THAT ONE vote
...19 minutes tho
also still gotta give the non-DS2 future projects of this year a spin, but got caught up this weekend & still haven't even heard goldlink
rap game UNCHARTED = GOTY CAUSE I PLAYED THAT ONE vote
...19 minutes tho
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