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GAF-Hop |OT9/9/99| African Substitute Teachers Run NY
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It's more civilized than Youtube. People can't disagree there without throwing insults at each other.
Sparkmaster tape is the fucking truth. I was skeptical as hell, usually these dudes with weird names some of yall post on here end up being low quality amateur hour bullshit with elementary school lyrics and either generic trap beats or Casio keyboard "experimental" nonsense.
But this mixtape is so fucking good. Consider me a stan.
But this mixtape is so fucking good. Consider me a stan.
Jest Chillin
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No joke, as someone who listened to exactly zero Country music, I could not stop laughing when I came across this video on some random channel in my hotel room in Arizona a few years ago.
Wish I was going. I'd love to see this.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah yeah yeah, we've all read this before. The downfall of everything, private prisons, yadda yadda yadda
1) Most of the best rap music is post 1991. So even if there was private and public manipulation of the genre, if it happened it created some of the dopest music ever.
2) Occam's razor; you can choose to believe in a worldview that embraces the notion of a giant complex shadow corporation/govt with nebulous, undefined goals or you can simply believe that art is reflective of the world that creates it. Crack, escalating violence, symptoms of Reaganomics,the cultural hangover from the 80s is what created the gutter 90s shit.
3) Judging from known results of our governments clandestine ops; they fuck up and fail A LOT. Almost every single coup the US funds ends poorly for them or installs people that end up being enemies (see: Al-Qaeda). Fidel is in our backyard and we still haven't caught that body. If these all powerful corporations and government are so adept, why are they failing so often (this includes the banking industry). It's clear that the corporate side of rap music is at all time flabby and sickness.
Sorry for the long response. I've just come to truly despise conspiracy theory these past couple of years, and I think most of it is poorly reasoned and evidenced bullshit. Except Kennedy. There was something weird going on there.
Stay in school
His next project is shaping up to be the best yet based on the first two tracks. Think someone just recently posted Baseball Bat Boi, but Picture on My Cofffin is my shit. https://soundcloud.com/sparkmastertape/picture-on-my-coffin-produced
This needs to be an OT thread
Tokubetsu
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Yeah yeah yeah, we've all read this before. The downfall of everything, private prisons, yadda yadda yadda. Let's keep it 100.
1) Most of the best rap music is post 1991. So even if there was private and public manipulation of the genre, if it happened it created some of the dopest music ever.
2) Occam's razor; you can choose to believe in a worldview that embraces the notion of a giant complex shadow corporation/govt with nebulous, undefined goals or you can simply believe that art is reflective of the world that creates it. Crack, escalating violence, symptoms of Reaganomics,the cultural hangover from the 80s is what created the gutter 90s shit.
3) Judging from known results of our governments clandestine ops; they fuck up and fail A LOT. Almost every single coup the US funds ends poorly for them or installs people that end up being enemies (see: Al-Qaeda). Fidel is in our backyard and we still haven't caught that body. If these all powerful corporations and government are so adept, why are they failing so often (this includes the banking industry). It's clear that the corporate side of rap music is at all time flabby and sickness.
Sorry for the long response. I've just come to truly despise conspiracy theory these past couple of years, and I think most of it is poorly reasoned and evidenced bullshit. Except Kennedy. There was something weird going on there.
Stay in school
Well said.
IrishNinja
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just wanted to co-sign nearly the whole of esha's post; i think conspiracy stuff is fun to look into but he's dead-on about not only the historically impossible levels of competency required, but also of absolute silence from more than one man involved. i'd also like to add to his bit on incompetency with one of the many books on the laundry list of embarrassing CIA fuckups; old roommate of mine ate this shit up and used to share older books with cold war era shit where they'd sponsor the wrong side in a skirmish & frequently end up with tremendous civilian casualties, no degree of plausible deniability & a violent regime change resulting in even worse trade agreements for all that blood. the great part about my last sentence there is that students of history are likely trying to figure out exactly which central/south american, souteast asian or other country i'm referring to, because they're that numerous.
Yeah im really looking forward to the new project. I just was not expecting what I got, in a good way. Production is fucking amazing and sparkmaster is legit. Normally when someone relies on a gimmick, in this case having his voice screwed on every song, it means they are compensating for being a shitty rapper. But that's not the case here at all.
Debating with a conspiracy theorist on literally any subject is agonizing. Any source or argument you use is either invalid because it was co-opted by some organization or whatever. And whatever sources they use are a-ok, not corrupted or whatever. it's always some long winded nonsense about why the government does and doesn't do this or that. The real truth of the matter is that if you read up on it enough, you'll realize that american black ops is kinda crap at anything not involving technology or dumping money at a political candidate in hopes it'll stick. Our track record when it comes to inspiring political grassroots/support in countries we want to manipulate is kinda hilariously bad. It didnt really work anywhere but the banana republic type countries early in the 1900s/late 1800s.
But the thing is in regards to that downfall of rap thing, even though I personally think it's a bullshit story just based on the fact the story's details, writing style, and tone reeks to high hell of bs, I also have no doubt there are rich immoral fucks out there who would do that kind of thing to make a profit, no matter how insane and fucked up or sounds.
You're definitely spot on about that mail. It has no names or evidence (any expose is fucking useless without ample of either). But, that's a pretty nebulous way of trying to influence the market IMO. Your boys just invested in private prisons, so you're gonna make music about crime in order to somehow indirectly propagate more crime so you can send more people to prison and you're going to do this by making music in a market you haven't said you'vetested or validated the existence of (people sympathetic to music about crime). That's the exact type of A->Z causation nonsense that I expect from bad conspiracy theory fiction. Like I said, nebulous, undefined goals and methods. I mean i believe some people will do whatever they can to make scrill, but it has to at least have some sort of defined sequence of events and causes for me to take an individual account seriously. This really doesn't.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
If you ever get a chance read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" it talks about how America first, second, and third favorite option is to try to bribe somebody because it works. After that they end up doing all the riskier stuff like assassinations, seeding revolts, etc because those do end up fucked up 9 times out of 10
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Coke Boyz 4 > Excuse My French...by a lot. The only thing it doesn't have is something like Pop That. This feels more like a French solo album ft/ Chinx Drugz than an actual "Coke Boyz" release. I wanted more like Dope Got Me Rich, and 9000 watts, but this is good shit.
French's ear for beats probably supersedes Ross' level.
French's ear for beats probably supersedes Ross' level.
PhoenixDark
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This is thinly veiled anti-Semitic bullshit, and another case of black people blaming white people for shit they have some control over.
This meeting allegedly happened in 1991. Too Short and Ice T found success with gangsta rap in the 80s. Straight Outta Compton came out in 1988. Livin' Like Hustlers came out in 1990. So before this alleged meeting gangster rap was well established, and dominate sales wise.
A lot of conspiracies seem to stem from people having next to no understanding of business principles. When something starts selling, everyone starts selling it. A recent example of this, in music, would be that Dr. Luke synth bass pop stuff that kind of started with Miley Cyrus' Party In The USA; Katy Perry has been dominating with that sound, Nicki Minaj's Starships and Super Bass, etc. It was "the" sound, and led to countless producers imitating it. Hip hop wise, trap music would be the obvious example.
Gangster rap made white kids stop buying rock and metal albums exclusively. It made record labels tons of money, was easily producible, quickly manufactured, and the quality level started at such a high level that saturation wasn't an issue. If ATCQ was selling like Tupac, there would have been more ATCQ artists than Tupacs. End of story.
Voting thread is a go.
The best part of that is how rhe author bigs up his decision to whistleblow and expose his former industry guys and then tells this tale naming no companies, individuals, locations, nothing.
And I agree with you on the the antisemitism thing. Its so close to teetering over and saying something about rich label jews or whatever but manages to hold back. Just like Kanye West.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
White people did kinda fuck shit up though.
I mean.
Ice, Ice Baby broke records and YBT were still doing shit in the late 90s.
I mean.
Ice, Ice Baby broke records and YBT were still doing shit in the late 90s.
I mean. Do big companies headed by whites (including jews) exploit various cultures to make money. Of course; theyre corporations. their primary objective is profit uber alles. Its the framing of a conspiracy by the music industry(who are in conflict amongst each other) get young black men in jail that is ridiculous. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The american entertainment industry has always exploited minorities or depictions of minority life (especially blacks). That's in plain sight. But the rest? Cmon.
Thought we already were.
HDR is SpaceGhostPurp
WanderingWind is some creepy statue
Toku is a white chick with her throat slit.
Siddx is a little howler monkey with a top hat and a monocle.
Peterboy is that Kanye teddy bear
Enzo is the fake Ironman
BlackAce is a little baby cub
Esch is whatever hipster image is popular that week
Irish Ninja is a bad rendition of Strider with some other nerd shit sprinkled in
yeah. I'm Reggie Noble
PhoenixDark
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This stuff is quite prominent, too, it's not regulated just to the internet. I've heard people at the barber shop claiming Lyor Cohen is invested in bringing the black man down. Lyor is probably a snake, but that applies to MOST people in the industry. Russell Simmons, Diddy, Steve Stoute, etc etc etc. Yet him and Iovinne get the most hate.
Music is business. That's why the Grammy goes to whoever sold the most.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I mean, absolutely, crazy people will believe crazy shit. But in my lifetime, it's gone from crazy people believing the government was watching us to being a verifiable fact. We've had literal hip-hop police exposed. We've seen judges sell fucking kids to private prisons for misdemeanors.
Some shit is absolutely off the wall, but sometimes, there is really some insane people running certain aspects. Rap was absolutely taken over by people not giving two shits about any semblance of 'culture' or 'pride.' It's crazy to assume it was for the sole purpose of keeping black folks down, but I'm telling you, the crazy fucking shit some white people believe when there isn't anybody with a tan around would curdle your blood. Some of that old money involved with the music, and I could see some of the people involved doing some shit just to fuck with minorities.
Tokubetsu
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I love you too Kamspy.
Seriously though, I know I bitched about there not being any captivating new hip hop in a while, HDR said there was but didn't mention anything specifically.
What's should a dude like me be listening to right now? My audio consumption for the past two months has been Less Than Jake, A Perfect Circle and the Joe Rogan Experience. I could use some hip hop to break it up a little.
I don't fuck with Bones or Ethelwulf. Marci is meh to me (in a way that I appreciate the quality, but also know it's just not for me right now). I'm at a loss.
When I downloaded MMLP2 I thought I download a fake....""iTunes file"""
until I got to the second song. Hot damn that album is garbage.
What's should a dude like me be listening to right now? My audio consumption for the past two months has been Less Than Jake, A Perfect Circle and the Joe Rogan Experience. I could use some hip hop to break it up a little.
I don't fuck with Bones or Ethelwulf. Marci is meh to me (in a way that I appreciate the quality, but also know it's just not for me right now). I'm at a loss.
When I downloaded MMLP2 I thought I download a fake....""iTunes file"""
until I got to the second song. Hot damn that album is garbage.The only people who didn't know we were under surveillance heavy since 9/11 at least were morons. I have a copy of Wired around here from 2012 talking about the big call center in Utah. None of that shit surprised me, and neither does the private prisons. I just need that evidence.
You don't have to tell me. I have lived in the mid-south my entire life and because I'm a 'model minority' certain whites have shared things that they feel with me about people of other races ('oh but not you, of course' they say). I've lost friendships over shit like that. I wouldn't be that surprised if a lot of the label/media manipulation is true, but I'm not seeing all these music guys getting together like that. Business people are more competitive than cooperative, when it comes down to it IMO.
Both of my grandpas were conspiracy theorists. Both accountants. Man, the shit they said about jews... Borderline nazi propaganda.
That actually hits the spot. I remember clicking a link to a video for a song off the album he did with that other guy and it being good. Gonna check out Fried Turkey.
Discotheque
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Was about to mention that album too haha
Tokubetsu
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Get Fried Turkey, Cold Turkey and Step Brothers 2. All I've been listening to honestly:
http://youtu.be/SA5oc5DBrGA
http://youtu.be/cbFbhsP2xsY
http://youtu.be/Bl3paMXfz3w
MuddyDonut
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I'm Kool A.D.'s Neogaf account.
You ain't making my top ten this year, sorry breh.
Seriously though, I know I bitched about there not being any captivating new hip hop in a while, HDR said there was but didn't mention anything specifically.
What's should a dude like me be listening to right now? My audio consumption for the past two months has been Less Than Jake, A Perfect Circle and the Joe Rogan Experience. I could use some hip hop to break it up a little.
I don't fuck with Bones or Ethelwulf. Marci is meh to me (in a way that I appreciate the quality, but also know it's just not for me right now). I'm at a loss.
When I downloaded MMLP2 I thought I download a fake....""iTunes file"""
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jti2C4_OXMo
https://soundcloud.com/sparkmastert...n?in=sparkmastertape/sets/the-swoup-serengeti
Great track.
maybe flab-soul will handle that this year with his two releases.
Which tape exactly?
You can download his first two tapes for free, both are great:
http://www.datpiff.com/Spark-Master-Tape-Syrup-Splash-mixtape.437311.html
http://mishkanyc.bandcamp.com/album/the-swoup-serengeti
The first track I linked is off his upcoming third tape, you can dl the track off his Soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/sparkmastertape/kkaptain-baseball-bat-boi
I guess I mistook his soundcloud avatar for the cover of the mixtape the sound grzi linked.
I liked the song. I'm kinda burnt on trap right now. ASAP popularity burnt up my passion for old 3-6 sounding shit. The trap explosion kinda overplayed that genre to me. Maybe that's why I've been on a Less Than Jake kick. I'm 99.9% certain that crappy punk ska will never make a comeback. I hate to go all "grumpy old music hipster man who only listens to The Who on original pressed vinyl", but I hate when I subgenre I'm into gets burnt the fuck out by modern artists.
When I can find a sedan I can afford that fits my 6'5 ass and has 350+ HP, sign me up.
And by afford, I mean like, $5k or less. I don't fuck with car loans.
KAM here's some recent shit you check out:
Rich Homie Quan - I Promise I Will Never Stop Going In
French Montana - Coke Boyz 4
Overdoz - Boom
Roc Marciano - Marci Beaucoup
NBS - Naturally Born Strangers
Retch - Sporting Goods
Gorgeous Children - Ice
The Game - OKE
Da Mafia 6ix - 6ix Commandments
Troy Ave - New York
Young Scooter - Street Lottery 2
Rich Homie Quan - I Promise I Will Never Stop Going In
French Montana - Coke Boyz 4
Overdoz - Boom
Roc Marciano - Marci Beaucoup
NBS - Naturally Born Strangers
Retch - Sporting Goods
Gorgeous Children - Ice
The Game - OKE
Da Mafia 6ix - 6ix Commandments
Troy Ave - New York
Young Scooter - Street Lottery 2
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Wiz second album is actually better than his first.
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