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GAF Photography Q4 2015

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I did some experimenting this morning with shooting black and white and it definitely gives it a certain look. I used my 18-105 lens, cranked up the ISO and shot away, I'll post my results much later when I get home, I have a long work day ahead of me.
 

vern

Member
Here's my first foray into black and white photography:

I'm not an expert by any means, and don't take this the wrong way, but I think you could stand to be more selective with your work. It's great that you share and I personally have seen improvements in your stuff, but things like the backs of people's heads (for example) and not much else happening in the frame are photos you should probably just delete, or if you like them then keep them I guess but they aren't super dynamic. Hope that's not sounding harsh.

As for your photos I think the last one here is pretty alright, with that guy mugging for the camera like a goofball. The long shadow to the left caught my eye as well though, maybe in the future instead of just clicking away at people walking down the road, try experimenting with things like shadows or angles. Maybe get lower? Or higher? You might look funny squatting down or even placing your camera down by your shoes for a picture, but who gives a shit how you look as long as it doesn't look like you are going for upskirts or something haha.

Also the shot with the homeless (lady?) might be alright but it's kind of hard to see what's going on.. maybe play around with the exposure and contrast and whatnot in lightroom? On my monitor it looks like someone holding their own head in their lap. But I think it's two women right?

Just my 2 cents, you can take them or leave them.
 
Funny enough I have gotten more selective, but I'll keep a note of that actually. I probably need a second eyeball telling me what to just flat out get rid of to be honest. Stuff's so objective that I'm like "somebody's bound to like it" so I just throw some odd things up. Regarding the angle thing...I'm commuting to work or walking with my girlfriend other times so I don't exactly have that much time to play around with. I'll try to mess around with that during one of the days I actually shoot solo without having an actual time constraint. Besides people are well, people, I try not to be too obvious. Also regarding the homeless couple I was trying to get a shot but that street has heavy foot traffic during rush hour and I didn' feel like standing there for 15 minutes cause I had to eventually get to work. I really need to stop being cheap and get a Light Room subscription don't I.

Edit regarding the place the camera by my shoes thing none of my cameras have a moveable screen. I'd have to get a D5300 or something, nothing but fixed screens for me, so I wouldn't even know what I'd get doing that unless it doesn't really matter for pros. Does anybody know of any youtube vids that discuss proper photography stances by any chance?
 

vern

Member
Funny enough I have gotten more selective, but I'll keep a note of that actually. I probably need a second eyeball telling me what to just flat out get rid of to be honest. Stuff's so objective that I'm like "somebody's bound to like it" so I just throw some odd things up. Regarding the angle thing...I'm commuting to work or walking with my girlfriend other times so I don't exactly have that much time to play around with. I'll try to mess around with that during one of the days I actually shoot solo without having an actual time constraint. Besides people are well, people, I try not to be too obvious. Also regarding the homeless couple I was trying to get a shot but that street has heavy foot traffic during rush hour and I didn' feel like standing there for 15 minutes cause I had to eventually get to work. I really need to stop being cheap and get a Light Room subscription don't I.

Edit regarding the place the camera by my shoes thing none of my cameras have a moveable screen. I'd have to get a D5300 or something, nothing but fixed screens for me, so I wouldn't even know what I'd get doing that unless it doesn't really matter for pros. Does anybody know of any youtube vids that discuss proper photography stances by any chance?

You don't really need to put it by your shoes and pray that you get a good shot.. I just meant change it up a little bit you know? I like to play with different angles when I do street photography, I just think it is more interesting. Again not saying mine are great and yours are shit or anything, scroll up and you can see one I posted of a guy from a lower angle. It might be better to you (and others) or it might be worse, but to me it just makes it a little more interesting to have some different angles every once in awhile.

Like I said I definitely have seen improvement in your stuff since you've been posting here, for sure at first you were just throwing shit against the wall to see what would stick.... But yeah get Lightroom. That homeless people photo could be pretty cool I think, with the motion in the foreground of the business people moving about and the poor couple sitting still.. but it's just hard to see what is going on for me personally with who it is exposed/processed now.
 

Koriandrr

Member
your photos are sooo awesome. I'm not sure I should be posting here, but critique is always welcome!

I was doing some cosplay photography at the London Comic-con last weekend. Working with limited lights and equipment as they had a rule that doesn't allow photographers to have any equipment that they're not directly holding while taking the photos. Stupid I know, but it scared off most people from using any lights. I cheated here and there occasionally woops. /excuses

Here's some of the shots I liked the most:
sailor_mars_at_mcm_comic_con_by_catberryphotography-d9e9gky.jpg


sailor_mars_cosplay_by_catberryphotography-d9ehp1i.jpg


sailor_moon_cosplay_by_catberryphotography-d9ehmgk.jpg


disney_aurora_cosplay_by_catberryphotography-d9ehpid.jpg
 
You don't really need to put it by your shoes and pray that you get a good shot.. I just meant change it up a little bit you know? I like to play with different angles when I do street photography, I just think it is more interesting. Again not saying mine are great and yours are shit or anything, scroll up and you can see one I posted of a guy from a lower angle. It might be better to you (and others) or it might be worse, but to me it just makes it a little more interesting to have some different angles every once in awhile.

Like I said I definitely have seen improvement in your stuff since you've been posting here, for sure at first you were just throwing shit against the wall to see what would stick.... But yeah get Lightroom. That homeless people photo could be pretty cool I think, with the motion in the foreground of the business people moving about and the poor couple sitting still.. but it's just hard to see what is going on for me personally with who it is exposed/processed now.
Don't worry I'm not disagreeing with you, it actually did put the idea in my head and gives me something to experiment with, never thought about shooting B&W till somebody on here mentioned it so I'm open to advice. I've only been doing this for less than half a year so the more I learn the better. And that shot you posted does look pretty interesting. I'm trying to figure out how you got the distortion effect that's going on with that lamp.

Edit:

Now I'm curious, did the more active photographers here go to school for photography or did you guys improve through experience?
 
Don't worry I'm not disagreeing with you, it actually did put the idea in my head and gives me something to experiment with, never thought about shooting B&W till somebody on here mentioned it so I'm open to advice. I've only been doing this for less than half a year so the more I learn the better. And that shot you posted does look pretty interesting. I'm trying to figure out how you got the distortion effect that's going on with that lamp.

Edit:

Now I'm curious, did the more active photographers here go to school for photography or did you guys improve through experience?

Yeah, being selective alone can actually be a huge "boost". I probably need to be more selective too, but what I've found is you'll start taking more "selectable" photos to begin with, and keep your camera down for photos that you'll just know won't be anything special or interesting.

I don't know if you'd consider me a more "active" photographer (I usually keep forgetting about this thread somehow :D), but I haven't had any education or training in it. Just one day about a year ago said fuck it and started binge watching/reading stuff on Youtube and continuously trying to improve myself and my technique. I'm sure some formal training or someone critiquing my work could probably make a huge difference, but I'm not sure I have time for that. ^-^
 
Yeah, being selective alone can actually be a huge "boost". I probably need to be more selective too, but what I've found is you'll start taking more "selectable" photos to begin with, and keep your camera down for photos that you'll just know won't be anything special or interesting.

I don't know if you'd consider me a more "active" photographer (I usually keep forgetting about this thread somehow :D), but I haven't had any education or training in it. Just one day about a year ago said fuck it and started binge watching/reading stuff on Youtube and continuously trying to improve myself and my technique. I'm sure some formal training or someone critiquing my work could probably make a huge difference, but I'm not sure I have time for that. ^-^
I have no time for formal training either, I'm pretty much just going on instinct at this point in time. Feedback helps, but man, I honestly need to stop thinking every picture I take is either good or just flat out crap. Funny enough I actually started scrolling though some of my older pics...holy fuck what the fuck was I doing half the damn time? I'd crop and touch up so many of those things it's not even funny.
 

vern

Member
Don't worry I'm not disagreeing with you, it actually did put the idea in my head and gives me something to experiment with, never thought about shooting B&W till somebody on here mentioned it so I'm open to advice. I've only been doing this for less than half a year so the more I learn the better. And that shot you posted does look pretty interesting. I'm trying to figure out how you got the distortion effect that's going on with that lamp.

Edit:

Now I'm curious, did the more active photographers here go to school for photography or did you guys improve through experience?

Cool, I'm glad you didn't get offended haha. I hate critiquing photography because it's so subjective. I have no formal training in it either, just got a camera one day and started shooting.

Their is probably some slight distortion from the wide-angle lens on my photo, but the lamps are actually curved like that.
 
Cool, I'm glad you didn't get offended haha. I hate critiquing photography because it's so subjective. I have no formal training in it either, just got a camera one day and started shooting.

Their is probably some slight distortion from the wide-angle lens on my photo, but the lamps are actually curved like that.
Yeah I took a couple of test shots in my room at something near a lamp at different angles to see how it would effect everything, and I'll admit it changes things up a bit. This might be something I experiment on a solo shoot and not while walking to work. Now if I had more will photography subjects in a controlled environment I wouldn't mind doing it at all. Just can't do this shit after the gym. treadmill burned out my kneecaps while I was taking the test shots. I notice a bit of what I think is barrel distortion on the side by the railing on the left. Where were you where they curve the lamps like that.
 
I have a question about a strange effect that occured while taking the photo below. As you can see there are darker areas to the left and right of the column. I kinda like it, but I have no clue as to why it actually happened as nothing was obstructing the view, and have never seen it before. Do any of you know what could have caused it?


It was shot with an Olympus E-M5 and the standard kitlens it came with (OLYMPUS M.12-50mm F3.5-6.3)
 

Prez

Member
Would it be okay to ask for some feedback here? I just started photography a week ago with a Canon 20D and 50mm 1.8 lens. I took some shots in Stockholm and would like to know how I can improve my skills.
 
Went out and tried to work on that weird angle stuff I discussed with Vern I think...sometimes it works, other times feels like a waste of time, not complaining, just doesn't seem to be needed for every shot, also trying to work on my cropping more now. Even still I'm like, "yep really should've cropped that out" after the fact.
DSC_4205 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
DSC_4179 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
DSC_4185 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
DSC_4227 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
DSC_4245 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
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And yes I did my best to be selective.
 

Number45

Member
Would it be okay to ask for some feedback here? I just started photography a week ago with a Canon 20D and 50mm 1.8 lens. I took some shots in Stockholm and would like to know how I can improve my skills.
Of course, that's what the thread is for.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Alternatively, just ask!

people change instantly when they know they are being photographed. Its why I like candid photography so much better than portraiture. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "oh, well I don't want to break your camera/lens" I would have all the gear I ever wanted.



Happy Halloween.

Hanging Around by Billy York, on Flickr
 
people change instantly when they know they are being photographed. Its why I like candid photography so much better than portraiture. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "oh, well I don't want to break your camera/lens" I would have all the gear I ever wanted.



Happy Halloween.

Hanging Around by Billy York, on Flickr
Yeah that's exactly why I don't ask. You get a better more natural picture out of it. If you don't want your cute kid getting their picture taken in costume during Halloween then leave your kid at home.
 

JJordawg

Banned
Ok, so, I'm new to GAF, just got my forum account approved.

Oddly enough my first post is probably going to be non-gaming related. Ha! Lets see if I can get everything formatted properly.

I'm somewhat of a intermediate; I have had DSLRs for a while now, and I'm not a basic user, but I'm having a hard time making my photos really stand out.

So I have a Nikon D5300 with some basic lenses, I believe the standard one and a zoom lens. Then I also have a ND8 lens filter. All of the following shots were from that.

One of my primary flaws I think is that I do not understand how to use manual very well. I understand basically how a camera works, and what shutter speed and aperture is, but I am just not very sure of using them correctly. So I get a lot of overexposed photos, or grainy looking photos, or ... I don't even know. Some photos just don't look particularly good to look at, so I guess composition?

So, anyways. I guess what I need is feedback and tips.


Here is one that I really thought would turn out good, but everything is off. I think there is too much contrast in a lot of little pockets in the photo. Is that a result of bad lighting or more? I'm kind of curious how I should have "evened out" the photo, because it seems kind of distracting with the bright patches on the rocks in the foreground.
Maine_00078.jpg



In contrast to the last picture, I felt pretty good about the next two after processing them. But I would still like input about them.
IMG_0241.jpg


IMG_0249.jpg


I guess my main issue with my photos upon revisiting them is that they don't quite pop. Something about the depth of field, or the saturation, or the focus, I'm just not sure. Would anyone care to tell me what they think?
EDIT: As a comparison, I was particularly impressed with Post #42 and #51 's work in this thread. I would like my work to be closer to that. I enjoy landscapes a lot and I find mine lacking.
 
You need to pay attention to the light meter in your viewfinder. Regarding grain don't have the ISO boosted too high. I'm no pro either though so I'm sure you'll get better advice from someone else.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Anyone want to critize my shots please? :p
I had some thoughts earlier when I originally viewed your shots, but just been busy all day today. See below.

For the first shot, what is the point of interest? You should ask your self before during and after a shot, what am I trying to show or convey to the viewer? Is that a pathway to the right? If it is its hardly viewable. Pathways are great, they lead the viewers eyes, they convery to the viewer that it could be them walking down that pathway.

For the music shots, first shooting music is very hard. You have typically a dark environment, where often flashes are not allowed, and changing lights and color tempatures and to top it off the musicians are moving. Overall I think you handled the colors and stuff great. What I would say and I know this is difficult, work on your angles. For instance in a lot of the shots the microphone is going into a persons ear or forehead. Its very distracting because its a bad collision. Try to get the microphone at their lips or at their instrument if you can, this is where people expect to see the microphone when near a person.

With the fourth to last shot why did you choose to focus on the band and not the guy that has his head slightly turned towards the stage? He is out of focus, but he's the first thing that my eyes see.


Shot selection, the last three weren't worth posting IMO, there's nothing that interesting about them.

Ok, so, I'm new to GAF, just got my forum account approved.

Oddly enough my first post is probably going to be non-gaming related. Ha! Lets see if I can get everything formatted properly.

I'm somewhat of a intermediate; I have had DSLRs for a while now, and I'm not a basic user, but I'm having a hard time making my photos really stand out.

So I have a Nikon D5300 with some basic lenses, I believe the standard one and a zoom lens. Then I also have a ND8 lens filter. All of the following shots were from that.

One of my primary flaws I think is that I do not understand how to use manual very well. I understand basically how a camera works, and what shutter speed and aperture is, but I am just not very sure of using them correctly. So I get a lot of overexposed photos, or grainy looking photos, or ... I don't even know. Some photos just don't look particularly good to look at, so I guess composition?

So, anyways. I guess what I need is feedback and tips.


Here is one that I really thought would turn out good, but everything is off. I think there is too much contrast in a lot of little pockets in the photo. Is that a result of bad lighting or more? I'm kind of curious how I should have "evened out" the photo, because it seems kind of distracting with the bright patches on the rocks in the foreground.
Maine_00078.jpg



In contrast to the last picture, I felt pretty good about the next two after processing them. But I would still like input about them.
IMG_0241.jpg


IMG_0249.jpg


I guess my main issue with my photos upon revisiting them is that they don't quite pop. Something about the depth of field, or the saturation, or the focus, I'm just not sure. Would anyone care to tell me what they think?
EDIT: As a comparison, I was particularly impressed with Post #42 and #51 's work in this thread. I would like my work to be closer to that. I enjoy landscapes a lot and I find mine lacking.
first of all welcome!

Overall landscape tips:
Clouds are your friend, clouds add drama and interest to any landscape.
When in doubt, get closer, get lower. Please don't stand fully upright and take a landscape shot at eye level.
Golden light or "golden hour", the best light is during nautical twilight till an hour or two after the sun comes up and an hour or so before sunset to 30minutes or even an hour after sunset. the life of a landscape photographer! you can see my landscapes here https://www.flickr.com/photos/wryphotography/

Tripod, you'll need a tripod. Shooting landscapes in the early morning and late evenings, you're going to have to either have a tripod or compromise somewhere, because the light is so soft and light either your shutter speed is going to be very low, or you'll need to crank your ISO to get a higher shutter speed.

But you also need depth of field which means smaller aperture which means less light getting to the sensor. To get good depth of field you can focus at infinity at F8 or so and almost everything will be in focus. Hence the term "f8 and be there"
 

Fëanorian

Neo Member
Just started following more of you guys! Love the pictures.

For those of you that do this for fun, do you guys ever print pictures? I have a folder full with 8x12 prints of pictures my friends like best.
 

Prez

Member
I had some thoughts earlier when I originally viewed your shots, but just been busy all day today. See below.

For the first shot, what is the point of interest? You should ask your self before during and after a shot, what am I trying to show or convey to the viewer? Is that a pathway to the right? If it is its hardly viewable. Pathways are great, they lead the viewers eyes, they convery to the viewer that it could be them walking down that pathway.

For the music shots, first shooting music is very hard. You have typically a dark environment, where often flashes are not allowed, and changing lights and color tempatures and to top it off the musicians are moving. Overall I think you handled the colors and stuff great. What I would say and I know this is difficult, work on your angles. For instance in a lot of the shots the microphone is going into a persons ear or forehead. Its very distracting because its a bad collision. Try to get the microphone at their lips or at their instrument if you can, this is where people expect to see the microphone when near a person.

With the fourth to last shot why did you choose to focus on the band and not the guy that has his head slightly turned towards the stage? He is out of focus, but he's the first thing that my eyes see.

Shot selection, the last three weren't worth posting IMO, there's nothing that interesting about them.

Thanks, you make a lot of good points. Very helpful!

With the first picture I guess I just wanted to convey the colors of autumn in Stockholm but you're right.

The microphones were there for singing which they didn't do often. They were not for the instruments (there are smaller mics attached to the instruments). I definitely need to work on those angles, I was afraid to move too much and block other peoples' view which I need to get over.

The fourth to last was a quick shot before leaving and I didn't notice that. Beginner mistake, what you're saying would have made for a better picture indeed.

The last picture is my cousin playing at the piano btw :)

As for the two shots before the last one, what do you think would be a more interesting way to portray the atmosphere in a bar or in a street?
 
Fëanorian;183696809 said:
Just started following more of you guys! Love the pictures.

For those of you that do this for fun, do you guys ever print pictures? I have a folder full with 8x12 prints of pictures my friends like best.

Yeah! Usually the best of my best I'll have printed out -- they come out AMAZING and are pretty darn cheap to boot. Most of the photos I print out look much better "in person" than they do on a screen, even at a small size. I use Bayphoto for mine, but I'm sure someone has a better site that they use.
 

Prez

Member
Fëanorian;183696809 said:
Just started following more of you guys! Love the pictures.

For those of you that do this for fun, do you guys ever print pictures? I have a folder full with 8x12 prints of pictures my friends like best.

I had a bunch of photos printed halfway my trip to Stockholm just to see how the colors and sharpness were since it was hard to judge on the 20D's tiny screen and I had no prior experience with a DSLR except a few dozen shots at home. It's nice to have if you keep it limited to only your best shots.

You're my first follower btw! Thanks :D
 
First time using the flash on my camera, that shutter press delay takes some getting used to. I pretty much had to get into the habit of pre focusing around the area of my target and then take their picture.
 

vern

Member
any good photographers to follow on instagram whose pics aren't too "digitally corrected/adjusted" looking?

I don't know if mine are too digitally corrected, or that I am a "good photographer" but feel free to follow me @ericvernon, I'll follow you back at least.

Some shots from a walk I took the other day:

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr

Rural Shanghai by Eric, on Flickr
 

vern

Member
I really like that photo of the excavator.

Thanks a lot. Those guys were cool to let me wander around amongst their machinery and trees. Then they dug a trench and trapped me behind a small canal and laughed at me and my predicament.
 

Damaged

Member
Prez, I like your shots of the guys onstage playing horns, nice lighting and rich colors. One thing I noticed, though, is that on a number of those shots you clipped off the top of the subject's head somewhat arbitrarily, and on one shot the edge of the trombone is just going out of the right side of the frame. When you're shooting, try to pay attention to the edges of the frame and make sure that you're making a deliberate choice about what you are including and what you are cutting off. (I think the second shot with the saxophone works in that situation because it looks like you're deliberately going in tight.)

I also like your composition of the homeless guy, it's very geometric with all its lines and rectangles.
 

Laieon

Member
Had my a6000 pick pocketed last night. Feeling pretty down right now, not sure I'll be able to afford to replace it for awhile and my old T1i has seen more than better days.
 

Prez

Member
Prez, I like your shots of the guys onstage playing horns, nice lighting and rich colors. One thing I noticed, though, is that on a number of those shots you clipped off the top of the subject's head somewhat arbitrarily, and on one shot the edge of the trombone is just going out of the right side of the frame. When you're shooting, try to pay attention to the edges of the frame and make sure that you're making a deliberate choice about what you are including and what you are cutting off. (I think the second shot with the saxophone works in that situation because it looks like you're deliberately going in tight.)

I also like your composition of the homeless guy, it's very geometric with all its lines and rectangles.

Thanks for the compliments and the tips, it's very encouraging! The subjects' heads getting clipped off yeah, I gotta watch that, though it was a challenge to find a good composition with just a 50mm prime and I didn't have a lot of room to move (the place was packed). I really enjoyed the challenge of working with restrictions though and I was forced to move around as much as I could which took a little courage for me to do (first time shooting a concert). I very much look forward to the next concert I can practice my skills on.
 

brerwolfe

Member
The fourth to last was a quick shot before leaving and I didn't notice that. Beginner mistake, what you're saying would have made for a better picture indeed.
Subjective and all that... I thought that specific photo was your best of the bunch. The focus was the music and how it either affected (or didn't) the people around it.

I love shots like that. I work In live sports television, and one of my "go-to" shots is always trying to get a fan's perspective, like looking through a small corridor of heads to see the action. In my mind it's a way for the viewer to feel like they're actually there.

And I always feel like there should be an Instagram username as the first post of a new quarterly thread as new people find it and old people return. If anyone wants to see (mostly) golf photos, I'm @brerwolfe on Instagram.
 

Prez

Member
Subjective and all that... I thought that specific photo was your best of the bunch. The focus was the music and how it either affected (or didn't) the people around it.

I love shots like that. I work In live sports television, and one of my "go-to" shots is always trying to get a fan's perspective, like looking through a small corridor of heads to see the action. In my mind it's a way for the viewer to feel like they're actually there.

Thank you, I do actually feel like I'm still there when I watch it.

Here's a few more pics. Anyone have suggestions on how I could have made these more interesting? (composition, point of focus etc.)

https://flic.kr/p/zyfmQghttps://www.flickr.com/photos/135667972@N02/

https://flic.kr/p/Aw8LAZhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/135667972@N02/

https://flic.kr/p/Av9aNkhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/135667972@N02/

https://flic.kr/p/AwWD5yhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/135667972@N02/

https://flic.kr/p/zyeCBDhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/135667972@N02/
 
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