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So hey, I guess this is a good place to ask, but how can you create your own channel? Like, I'd like to have my USB loader into it's own channel, that I can start from the wii menu. How do I go about doing this?
 
TheSonicRetard said:
So hey, I guess this is a good place to ask, but how can you create your own channel? Like, I'd like to have my USB loader into it's own channel, that I can start from the wii menu. How do I go about doing this?


you need a forwarder, which I think will be in the shape of a WAD file (at least the ultimate USB loader was). You install that from the homebrew channel using WAD manager 1.3, and then the channel will appear. The ultimate USB one will then launch whatever boot.dol is in the sd:\apps\usbloader\ folder.
 
TheSonicRetard said:
So hey, I guess this is a good place to ask, but how can you create your own channel? Like, I'd like to have my USB loader into it's own channel, that I can start from the wii menu. How do I go about doing this?
There are many USB loader channels around if you look (google it and remember channel files are called WAD files)
 
Threi said:
There are many USB loader channels around if you look (google it and remember channel files are called WAD files)

mrklaw said:
you need a forwarder, which I think will be in the shape of a WAD file (at least the ultimate USB loader was). You install that from the homebrew channel using WAD manager 1.3, and then the channel will appear. The ultimate USB one will then launch whatever boot.dol is in the sd:\apps\usbloader\ folder.

thanks. How do I configure the forwarder wad to point to a specific directory?
 
TheSonicRetard said:
thanks. How do I configure the forwarder wad to point to a specific directory?

If you use WBFS for Mac OS X, there is a button called "Create HBC" which does as you would expect. Then you could take the resultant HBC files and turn them into a WAD file. I would assume WBFS for Windows has a similar function as well.
 
MikeE21286 said:
Quick question here....

are you able to download your covers when using USB Loader 7.4? It won't let me do it. I hit "1" and it just hangs up and does nothing and then the option disappears. Anyone else have this happen or know a remedy?

I had this problem too - turns out my "wimages" and "images" directory weren't in the root of the memory card, I accidentally put them in the "apps" folder, which is wrong. Once I had those directories in the root properly cover art showed up correctly.
 
mrklaw said:
Are there any issues using a Mac? I think when I was originally setting the homebrew stuff up, there were issues with dol files not being recognised, but using my wife's PC it was ok. Does a mac maybe format stuff not quite right? USB loader runs ok though. Would be noticed if it didn't work surely, as that OSX wfbs tool is being used by Mac owners

I use the WBFS for Mac OS X v.1.2 and a Mac to do everything else - no problems here.

Hmm... I didn't realize I'd be responding 3 times, sorry for the spam, heh.

While I'm at it, let me say that I'm hacked and on 4.0U when I did what others have posted:

0.) Updated HBC (was already up-to-date at 1.0.1)
1.) Updated HBB
2.) DVDx
3.) cISO rev10
4.) IOS60 (not IOS61 nor Wii Shop Channel) Installer/Patcher
5.) Official Nintendo Update
6.) IOS Downgrader/Patcher
7.) All previous hackery worked just fine
8.) USB Loader Ultimate 7.4
9.) WBFS for Mac OS X v1.2

Now that I can easily rip my Wii games, I went ahead and tried Dolphin - turns out I need to buy a better video card, heh.
 
Man this USB Loader is awesome. I'm shocked at how fast loading is... MadWorld and Metroid Prime 3 are instant access.

Wow. It reminds me of the old cartridge days. No loading at all.
 
TheSonicRetard said:
Man this USB Loader is awesome. I'm shocked at how fast loading is... MadWorld and Metroid Prime 3 are instant access.

Wow. It reminds me of the old cartridge days. No loading at all.
Does it rid of frame skips in House of the Dead: Overkill?
 
pakkit said:
Does it rid of frame skips in House of the Dead: Overkill?

I'm in class, but I started instaling HotD:Ok when I left my place. Class ends in 30 minutes, and it should be done installing when I get back, so I'll tell you then.
 
I haven't installed the USB loader yet (waiting until my HDD arrives) but is there any way to also install my GCN games on this? I'm guessing I'm just dreaming but it would be great if I could.
 
Interesting issue I think. I have Ulitimate usb loader installed and everytime I load it my contoller shuts off and won't turn back on. Any ideas?
 
Fuzzy said:
I haven't installed the USB loader yet (waiting until my HDD arrives) but is there any way to also install my GCN games on this? I'm guessing I'm just dreaming but it would be great if I could.

It doesn't support GC games yet unfortunately.
 
Seeing how many praises people were giving in this thread, I tried using USB loader and backed up a few of my games, but when I try to run them the system hard freezes a lot. Like usually at places where it seems like it would normally be loading from the disc, aka not in the middle of a game. I have to unplug the power out of the back of the system and plug it back in to fix the freeze.

I'm using USB loader 1.5, a WD usb 2.0 powered passport essentials, and 3.4 firmware that was hacked with the twilight hack -> 3.4fix that installed cios36 rev_10 and downgraded.
 
Bebpo said:
Seeing how many praises people were giving in this thread, I tried using USB loader and backed up a few of my games, but when I try to run them the system hard freezes a lot. Like usually at places where it seems like it would normally be loading from the disc, aka not in the middle of a game. I have to unplug the power out of the back of the system and plug it back in to fix the freeze.

I'm using USB loader 1.5, a WD usb 2.0 powered passport essentials, and 3.4 firmware that was hacked with the twilight hack -> 3.4fix that installed cios36 rev_10 and downgraded.

You should try this version.

USB Loader Ultimate 7.4

I believe everyone in this thread that is using usb loader is using 7.4.

So I'm about to try usb loader. I just want to make sure I am doing everything right. Currently, I am on FW 3.3. So this is probably what I should do to get usb loader working:

1. install cIOS v10
2. install IOS 60. Do not install IOS 61.
3. Use the nintendo servers to update to 4.0
4. use the wakinoto patch to put back all unpatched IOSes

I should be ready to use USB loader Ultimate 7.4 after I do all these steps, correct? Thanks.
 
Bebpo said:
Seeing how many praises people were giving in this thread, I tried using USB loader and backed up a few of my games, but when I try to run them the system hard freezes a lot. Like usually at places where it seems like it would normally be loading from the disc, aka not in the middle of a game. I have to unplug the power out of the back of the system and plug it back in to fix the freeze.

I'm using USB loader 1.5, a WD usb 2.0 powered passport essentials, and 3.4 firmware that was hacked with the twilight hack -> 3.4fix that installed cios36 rev_10 and downgraded.
Try using the ULtimate loaders based on 1.1 to rip, 1.4 to load, and Wii System Software 4.0, at least that is what I do. WD Passports are also VERY picky about the USB cable you use with them, so use the supplied one.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Try using the ULtimate loaders based on 1.1 to rip, 1.4 to load, and Wii System Software 4.0, at least that is what I do. WD Passports are also VERY picky about the USB cable you use with them, so use the supplied one.

I'm sort of afraid to update to 4.0 because it seems so complicated. Also I'm using the USB cable that came with the passport. USB Loader didn't have any problems ripping the couple of games I tried or partitioning the drive it.

I'll try the ultimate loader and 1.4 and see if I notice any difference.
 
Hesemonni said:
Forgot to confirm: if I rip my US No More Heroes it's playable via USB loader on PAL machine?
Yes, most loaders can force the video mode, but if you're using an RGB cable you will end up seeing everything in shades of red (at least, this is what happens to me with Ultimate USB Loader 6.7, no matter what video mode I choose).
So, for my US No More Heroes, I'm using another loader (now discontinued, I think) with video mode patches, made by some guy called WiiPower. NMH works perfectly in color, even with RGB cables.

HUELEN10 said:
Try using the ULtimate loaders based on 1.1 to rip, 1.4 to load, and Wii System Software 4.0, at least that is what I do. WD Passports are also VERY picky about the USB cable you use with them, so use the supplied one.
Does it work? I heard slow ripping was due to cIOS rev10 more than loaders based on 1.4.
That's why I'm still with rev9 and loaders based on 1.1.
 
Trying the Ultimate 7.4 loader I'm getting freezes but at all different spots!

On NMH Jpn where I froze at the "attach nunchuck screen" with 1.5, it went further and started the game on 7.4 and played the opening cutscene, but when I skipped the cutscene it couldn't load the next part and just froze on the black screen.

On Fire Emblem which played on 1.5 and then froze when loading the intro, on 7.4 it froze in the loader white list screen where it says "booting Wii game, please wait"

I don't know what is going wrong. Maybe I need to update to 4.0.
 
Jocchan said:
Does it work? I heard slow ripping was due to cIOS rev10 more than loaders based on 1.4.
That's why I'm still with rev9 and loaders based on 1.1.
Well I installed 9, then 10, and it works just sooooo fast at ripping with 1.1 based loaders!
Bebpo said:
Maybe I need to update to 4.0.
DO IT! You can always downgrade to 3.2 when you need it, if you have the right cIOS installed.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Well I installed 9, then 10, and it works just sooooo fast at ripping with 1.1 based loaders!
Awesome, thanks for clearing this. If the new loader with the awesome GUI starts requiring it, I might end up installing rev10 then (disc ripping speed was the major factor holding me back, I've already installed most of my games but I have no intention of waiting hours for my new games to install).

Bebpo said:
I don't know what is going wrong. Maybe I need to update to 4.0.
I'm still on 3.2 and everything works. Are you sure your HDD is fully compatible?
 
Ok, I'm an idiot. You need to have a disc in the drive, right? I didn't have anything in the drive. So I tried putting a disc in and then using USB Loader and suddenly nothing is freezing. ^^;

HUELEN10 said:
DO IT! You can always downgrade to 3.2 when you need it, if you have the right cIOS installed.

Is there a good guide to safe 4.0 updating?
 
Bebpo said:
Ok, I'm an idiot. You need to have a disc in the drive, right? I didn't have anything in the drive. So I tried putting a disc in and then using USB Loader and suddenly nothing is freezing. ^^;
Oh yeah. Some games require it. I'm using Red Steel because it's the only one in my collection that doesn't seem to work with the loader (unless they fixed it with some new version), so if I should ever want to play it again (I seriously doubt it, but you never know) I can just boot it via disc.
 
Bebpo said:
Is there a good guide to safe 4.0 updating?
I actually had 4.0, official 4.0, installed before doing the whole loader thing. Maybe Dragona is the one to ask, she was one of the proponents of 4.0 when it was deemed safe.
 
Jocchan said:
Awesome, thanks for clearing this. If the new loader with the awesome GUI starts requiring it, I might end up installing rev10 then (disc ripping speed was the major factor holding me back, I've already installed most of my games but I have no intention of waiting hours for my new games to install).


I'm still on 3.2 and everything works. Are you sure your HDD is fully compatible?

I want to install the usb loader, i know i need to install the cios36 rev9 or 10. I already asked mejilan but i want to be sure. Should i install the rev9 or 10???is it safe to install either? also i assume those are self loaders or do i need something from my hbc to install it?
 
SS4Gogita said:
Why didn't you just use the USB Loader to rip your games?

:( I didn't know, or well I knew but I was unable to find the option to do so...

Clipper said:
Why were you using DVD Dumper? Isn't USB Loader meant to have it's own ripping software included in the app itself?

As for the semi-brick, that's annoying. I guess you hit one of those weird bugs that the Team Twiizers guys have been warning about with cIOS. I take it you were on 4.0? That would explain the inability to reinstall the HBC.

I couldn't find the option to do so : (, I was on 3.2 and after the formatting I'm still on the 3.2, but it's too weird, I guess I'll format again to try to install the Homebrew Channel
 
Bluemercury said:
I want to install the usb loader, i know i need to install the cios36 rev9 or 10. I already asked mejilan but i want to be sure. Should i install the rev9 or 10???is it safe to install either? also i assume those are self loaders or do i need something from my hbc to install it?
I'm still on rev9, the one I installed to use the USB Loader (rev10 wasn't out yet), so I haven't tried upgrading yet. I hear it's easy as cake, but as I mentioned before the speed issue was holding me back.
If I was starting from scratch right now, I would probably install rev10 then... but you'd better ask someone more in the know than me.
To install rev9 I just ran an installer once, and then the Loader worked like every other Homebrew application. I haven't tried channels, WADS and stuff like that (and probably won't... I'm lazy but the two extra clicks needed to run a loader from the HBC aren't that annoying).
 
Dante: Very sorry to hear about your semi-brick issues and lost data, but you really should have carefully read the documentation of all of the apps and installers you were using. Installing a game via USB Loader is as simple as hitting the + button on the Wiimote. The - button, on the other hand, is used to delete games. It seriously couldn't be any easier.

Link: USB Loader greatly slashes load times, ala HDLoader on the PS2, and sometimes even improves in-game performance, as with House of the Dead.

Bebpo said:
Seeing how many praises people were giving in this thread, I tried using USB loader and backed up a few of my games, but when I try to run them the system hard freezes a lot. Like usually at places where it seems like it would normally be loading from the disc, aka not in the middle of a game. I have to unplug the power out of the back of the system and plug it back in to fix the freeze.

I'm using USB loader 1.5, a WD usb 2.0 powered passport essentials, and 3.4 firmware that was hacked with the twilight hack -> 3.4fix that installed cios36 rev_10 and downgraded.

1) You might want to check the compatibility wiki on GBATemp to see if your HDD works well, works with issues (and possible workarounds), or basically doesn't work at all.

2) Also, I've heard that some WDs have "spindown" issues where basically, after a certain number of minutes of not real HDD activity, the drive spins down and goes to sleep. This can happen a lot for games that cache heavily to RAM and only occasionally spin the DVDs. USB Loader cannot recover from this, and the next time the game tries to spin the DVD (in this case, access the ISO on the HDD), the game will freeze and die. There are solutions to fixing WD spindown issues via PC software, but it commonly entails opening up the drive and patching it directly to the PC.


Jocchan said:
Yes, most loaders can force the video mode, but if you're using an RGB cable you will end up seeing everything in shades of red (at least, this is what happens to me with Ultimate USB Loader 6.7, no matter what video mode I choose).
So, for my US No More Heroes, I'm using another loader (now discontinued, I think) with video mode patches, made by some guy called WiiPower. NMH works perfectly in color, even with RGB cables.

Ultimate USB Loader 7.4 (based on 1.5) is quite a bit better than 6.7 (1.1 or 1.4 versions), in my experience.

Does it work? I heard slow ripping was due to cIOS rev10 more than loaders based on 1.4.
That's why I'm still with rev9 and loaders based on 1.1.

False. The sluggish install time issues were due to bugs/changes introduced by Waninkoko in his 1.2.-1.4 revs. He fixed them for 1.5. Any USB Loader mod based on 1.5 should install just as fast, if not faster, than 1.1 or 1.1-based mods.

This sluggish installs never had anything to do with cIOS rev10. I can't believe the amount of disinformation out there concerning rev10. It's better than rev9 in every possible sense. The only "issue" with rev10, is that Waninkoko uploaded a totally borked version originally. He had a fixed version up in about an hour. The only possible problem, now, is if you're downloading the installer from a mirror that still has the borked version. You should be getting it straight from Waninkoko's blog, to avoid that nonsense.

USB Loader 1.5 (and viable 1.5-based mods) running on cIOS rev10 all install games as fast or faster than USB Loader 1.1 running on cIOS rev9. Additionally, USB Loader 1.1 (and viable 1.1-based mods) running on cIOS rev10 all install games just as fast as 1.1 running on cIOS rev9 did.

I've personally verified all of this.
 
Thanks Meji for clearing all this. EDIT: Does Ultimate 7.4 fix the red screen issue for NTSC games on a PAL console?

Linkzg said:
USB Loader helps reduce loading times in games like HD Loader did on PS2?
Significantly. Unless it's the biggest case of placebo effect I've ever witnessed in my life :P
 
Well i installed the cios36rev10, i created a folder in the sd card with the the files, renamed the file cIOS36_rev10-Installer.dol to boot.dol and put the wad IOS36-64-v1042.wad in the root like its said in the readme, apparentely the install went well. Now i need to know what to do next?, which version is the best of the usb loader?
 
Bluemercury said:
Now i need to know what to do next?, which version is the best of the usb loader?
Now you just connect an USB drive with an empty partition, start the USB Loader (look for Ultimate 7.4) and have fun :)
 
Jocchan said:
Now you just connect an USB drive with an empty partition, start the USB Loader (look for Ultimate 7.4) and have fun :)

Seeing that this is my first atempt to mess with homebrew, since a freind of mine installed the homebrew channel for me, what does the cios36 actually do?
Also which version should i download of the usbloader and what about creating a channel directly for it?

thanks to all.
 
I'm not sure why all of this is confusing me so much, but it is... Honestly, I didn't have any problems setting up the HBC long ago, or getting its various apps to run, but I just don't understand all of this USB Loader stuff. If anyone is willing to help an idiot, can you tell me:

1. How do I know if I've installed a cIOS in the past? I don't recall doing so, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it. (I have installed HBC as well as apps like Gecko OS and WAD Manager and a number of emulators.)

2. Regardless, given the fact that my Wii has been updated through Nintendo to 4.0U, can I install cIOS36 rev10 (and then go through what needs to be done to add the USB Loader 7.4 app), or am I going to screw things up (i.e., brick my system) if I do that?

3) If I *can* install cIOS36 rev10 without bricking, is that all I need to do before adding the USB Loader 7.4 app, or do I need to do anything else before that? (I've seen people mention other cIOSes that may need to be installed.)

It's OK if this just won't work for me because I updated to 4.0 - I'm just curious. Plus, I'd like to see how it affects loading times on the handful of Wii games I'm playing at the moment.

Thanks for any help!
 
d+pad said:
1. How do I know if I've installed a cIOS in the past? I don't recall doing so, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it. (I have installed HBC as well as apps like Gecko OS and WAD Manager and a number of emulators.)

HBC, HBB, GeckoOS, and emulators don't require a cIOS, so unless you SPECIFICALLY installed one (and you'd probably remember, since it comes with its own installer), you probably don't have it installed. That said, grab the newest cIOS36 installer (rev10 as of last night) and run it. If don't have a cIOS installed, it'll take care of it for you. If you do have one installed, it'll install the newest one over it. No harm, no foul. Oh wait, but you're already on 4.0? Well then...

2. Regardless, given the fact that my Wii has been updated through Nintendo to 4.0U, can I install cIOS36 rev10 (and then go through what needs to be done to add the USB Loader 7.4 app), or am I going to screw things up (i.e., brick my system) if I do that?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15438897&postcount=1641

3) If I *can* install cIOS36 rev10 without bricking, is that all I need to do before adding the USB Loader 7.4 app, or do I need to do anything else before that? (I've seen people mention other cIOSes that may need to be installed.)

Yep. USB Loader requires cIOS36. Just go with the newest one released.

Thanks for any help!

Cheers!
 
d+pad said:
I'm not sure why all of this is confusing me so much, but it is... Honestly, I didn't have any problems setting up the HBC long ago, or getting its various apps to run, but I just don't understand all of this USB Loader stuff. If anyone is willing to help an idiot, can you tell me:

1. How do I know if I've installed a cIOS in the past? I don't recall doing so, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it. (I have installed HBC as well as apps like Gecko OS and WAD Manager and a number of emulators.)

2. Regardless, given the fact that my Wii has been updated through Nintendo to 4.0U, can I install cIOS36 rev10 (and then go through what needs to be done to add the USB Loader 7.4 app), or am I going to screw things up (i.e., brick my system) if I do that?

3) If I *can* install cIOS36 rev10 without bricking, is that all I need to do before adding the USB Loader 7.4 app, or do I need to do anything else before that? (I've seen people mention other cIOSes that may need to be installed.)

It's OK if this just won't work for me because I updated to 4.0 - I'm just curious. Plus, I'd like to see how it affects loading times on the handful of Wii games I'm playing at the moment.

Thanks for any help!

1- i didnt know which version i had installed but i saw a rev8 around so i assumed i had the rev9. I did read that if you updated to the 4.0 you couldnt install the rev9 or 10 unleass you had the rev8.Dont know if its true.

2- i dindnt brick my system.

3- i think you then only need to install the usb loader. but ive yet to do it, and i still have my hdd full so.....
 
Mejilan said:
No harm, no foul. Oh wait, but you're already on 4.0? Well then...



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15438897&postcount=1641



Yep. USB Loader requires cIOS36. Just go with the newest one released.



Cheers!


I assume that if you didnt install any cios before updating to 4.0, trying to install the latest revisions wont work right?Because i managed to install rev10 and it didnt give me any error, so its safe to say the usb loader will work?right?
 
SS4Rob said:
I had this problem too - turns out my "wimages" and "images" directory weren't in the root of the memory card, I accidentally put them in the "apps" folder, which is wrong. Once I had those directories in the root properly cover art showed up correctly.

hey man thanks a lot, that was the problem.
 
Bluemercury said:
I assume that if you didnt install any cios before updating to 4.0, trying to install the latest revisions wont work right?Because i managed to install rev10 and it didnt give me any error, so its safe to say the usb loader will work?right?

The answer to your question is in the very post you quoted!
 
Jocchan said:
The makers of Ultimate USB Loader have apparently joined another project with a much better GUI, based on the v1.1 loader (which only requires cIOS rev9 and rips your discs much faster than any running with rev10):
http://i44.tinypic.com/sv2bd4.png
(the screenshot is from their Google Code page, I hope it's ok but if it's not please notify me and I'll remove it)
That looks hot :o I'm not playing any Wii games right now anyway so I think I'll wait for that and update to it all at once. I'm still on the first Ultimate Loader version I think.

For people who want to play Brawl with replays over 3 minutes and the tag of the player saved, I uploaded my gct file:
http://www.sfu.ca/~rsa12/smash/ssbbreplays.gct

Just put that in a folder called "codes" in the root of your SD card. I think you might have to rename it to RSBE01.gct. I just named that so I knew what codes it contained. That's all it changes. Just enable Ocarina codes in Gecko or Ultimate USB Loader by pressing the appropriate button.
 
Bluemercury said:
So which version you advise? Also i have madworld and house of the dead with me, so is it possible to create the image from wii the itself?

What the hell are you talking about, dude?
Have you read any of the readmes included with the homebrew apps you're using?
Have you read this thread at all?
Have you read any of my responses, here or to the PMs you sent me?

1) cIOS36. Install rev10.
2) USB Loader. Drop Ultimate USB Loader 7.4 based on Waninkoko's 1.5 onto your SD card.
3) Launch USB Loader, initialize HDD. Install game.

That's it. It's easy. How many more times do we need to answer your questions?
 
Mejilan, does Ultimate 7.4 fix the red screen issue for NTSC games on a PAL console that 6.7 has?
It's the only reason why I keep a second loader (WiiPower's one) on my SD, to run uncensored US No More Heroes in color.
 
Wow, the scene is really moving fast with all these USB Loaders right now. I'm not surprised so many are confused. Configurable USB Loader v16, which just released a few hours ago apparently, now seems to be even more useful than Ultimate USB Loader and I have no doubt that the best apps will keep leapfrogging each other for some time to come.

Personally, I'm waiting for two features to arrive before I bite the bullet and install cIOS so I can use these features. First will be the release of cIOS rev11 so I can keep my KVM switch plugged into my Wii (otherwise I would need to turn on my PC or PS3 to play the Wii). Second will be a proper region free app being integrated into the USB loader apps.

I suppose there is one more barrier, that being that it is illegal to format shift game discs in Australia, but I'll decide whether to cross that bridge when I come to it.

Oh, one question to those of you that are using this already... Do the games show up properly in your games played log on the Wii Message Board?
 
You can already install games from other regions onto your Wii and play them using USB Loader. Lots of people have chucked Tatsunoko vs Capcom into their NTSC-U Wiis.
 
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