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He has 60 games. There are 48 channel spaces. You still don't see a problem?SS4Gogita said:
I have 38 games and I'm not doing it either. My reasoning is not wanting to clean up all those channel spots if Nintendo does something to disable them. Having just the HBC channel to remove or reinstall is a much better prospect for me.
It's fine for you to prefer having them spread out, no one is telling you to do otherwise, but many of us with a lot of games prefer to have it all centralised in one place.
It appears there's an alternative to waiting for cIOS36 rev 11 that fixes the spindown bug and also gets Wii Speak and other devices working too. This uses Hermes' IOS223 rather than Waninkoko's IOS249.
Configurable USB Loader v31a is one of the only loaders to support it so far. The installation method for IOS223 is found here.
I'll probably try this out myself later tonight, as I have experienced some minor issues that could be attributed to spindown. Others might be interested as an alternative to using hard drive tweaking apps. It's also possible that this now supports the LAN Adaptor.
Edit: The above link for IOS223 might not be the best. This one is suggested by the coder of Configurable USB Loader.
Edit 2: I'm not having much luck with this. The installer seems to work fine, but I can't get Configurable to access the new IOS. I'll post again when it's working properly.
Configurable USB Loader v31a is one of the only loaders to support it so far. The installation method for IOS223 is found here.
I'll probably try this out myself later tonight, as I have experienced some minor issues that could be attributed to spindown. Others might be interested as an alternative to using hard drive tweaking apps. It's also possible that this now supports the LAN Adaptor.
Edit: The above link for IOS223 might not be the best. This one is suggested by the coder of Configurable USB Loader.
Edit 2: I'm not having much luck with this. The installer seems to work fine, but I can't get Configurable to access the new IOS. I'll post again when it's working properly.
Guys I have just used BannerBomb on my 4.0 Wii to install the Homebrew Channel, did the cIOS36 rev 10 thing and I have played fine homebrews like GBA/SNES emulators and such.
But I'm interested into Loaders so:
I have a
-4.0E Wii
-Homebrew Channel
-cIOS stuff installed
-Backup Loader 0.3 Gamma
So will my backup load? I dont have my Wii here so I cant try, so I'm asking to you guys.
Also am I ok to use an USB loader? Can I use my SANDISK 8GB USB Pen to store backups?
Or do I have to install other fixes/patches in order to load Backups from DVD/USB?
But I'm interested into Loaders so:
I have a
-4.0E Wii
-Homebrew Channel
-cIOS stuff installed
-Backup Loader 0.3 Gamma
So will my backup load? I dont have my Wii here so I cant try, so I'm asking to you guys.
Also am I ok to use an USB loader? Can I use my SANDISK 8GB USB Pen to store backups?
Or do I have to install other fixes/patches in order to load Backups from DVD/USB?
Clipper said:
I use uLoader to use other USB devices. It looks horrible though.
http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_utilidad-uloader-v1-3-ocarina-y-forzado-de-video-idioma_1217626#
That's the thing. Configurable looks great, and he's adding support for uLoader's IOS so that we get the best of both worlds. There just seems to be a small bug in the system that only some people can get it to work.ruffles said:
No, you have everything you need. Go get Configurable USB Loader and enjoy.Yazus said:
Clipper said:
I guess I should have clarified. I only install channels for my most used single-player games, and the party games for when I go over to someone's house, but he was complaining about installing even a fraction of them because of the difficulty. All I was doing was pointing out the contradiction.
I don't remember saying it wasn't fine for you guys to have it like you do.
^^
Not sure I understand your question.
Updating via Nintendo (which I actually recommend) basically causes you to lose all of those nice older trucha-exploitable IOSes, since Nintendo patches newer IOS versions fixing the exploits. Nothing a quick IOS Downgrader (which I also recommend) won't reverse, though!
Waninkoko's updater is a bit more hack-y, as it installs most elements of Nintendo's 4.0 update, while purporting to avoid those IOS patches, or auto-reverse them.
I'd rather avoid that, however, and patch the IOS exploits back in after the fact. Safer, in my mind. As long as you have HBC (and earlier cases, a cIOS) installed, patching the exploits back in after a Nintendo 4.0 update was a trivial matter.
Excellent. I've been waiting for this for a while, and closely following developments. I had already installed the alternate cIOSes some days ago, but I suppose I'll reinstall them to be sure. I'll eff around with this in a bit and see if I have more luck than you.
I'm fine with nested menus, as long as they sync up with my sense of organization.
I treat my System Menu as simple OS GUI. I want everything accessible from one page. No scrolling. So that leaves me with what, 12 channels to play with? Less, if you consider the items that have to be there due to not working off the SD Menu, or whatever.
I never meant to imply that it was difficult, just a pain in the ass. And an ass pain that can easily be completely lost should Nintendo decide to zap 'em.
I'm actually pretty content with my current layout. I've got all of my Wii games one menu away. The first two or so pages of my SD Menu double as my WiiWare / Arcade menu. The rest of the pages are divvied up amongst the various VC consoles... everything conveniently one menu level away. I love it. Even my System Menu has empty channels to separate the various "categories" that I have the channels grouped into. It's very comfortable, to me, and I wouldn't "dilute" this in any way by dropping in select Wii Disc Game Channels.
I can see the appeal, but it's not for me. Trust me, if I could truly separate the SD Menu, I would. I'm one of those that has been crying since VC day 1 for "console channels" accessible via the System Menu. It hasn't quite happened, but the SD Menu itself is a decent enough compromise. I kind of wish those 20 or so pages of channels weren't already half full, though!
I was a big fan of Ult USB Loader, and wasn't really pleased to hear that those responsible for its best features moved onto that slow-moving GUI team. It still lacks a couple of features, IMHO, whereas Cfg USB Loader has every single important Ult feature, and plenty more. With the addition of an admittedly cruder GUI, Cfg USB Loader is basically the most feature-rich loader out there, IMHO; and truly based off USBL 1.5, not 1.1 with some 1.5 features hacked in, like too many other loaders.
Not sure I understand your question.
Updating via Nintendo (which I actually recommend) basically causes you to lose all of those nice older trucha-exploitable IOSes, since Nintendo patches newer IOS versions fixing the exploits. Nothing a quick IOS Downgrader (which I also recommend) won't reverse, though!
Waninkoko's updater is a bit more hack-y, as it installs most elements of Nintendo's 4.0 update, while purporting to avoid those IOS patches, or auto-reverse them.
I'd rather avoid that, however, and patch the IOS exploits back in after the fact. Safer, in my mind. As long as you have HBC (and earlier cases, a cIOS) installed, patching the exploits back in after a Nintendo 4.0 update was a trivial matter.
Clipper said:
Excellent. I've been waiting for this for a while, and closely following developments. I had already installed the alternate cIOSes some days ago, but I suppose I'll reinstall them to be sure. I'll eff around with this in a bit and see if I have more luck than you.
SS4Gogita said:
I'm fine with nested menus, as long as they sync up with my sense of organization.
SS4Gogita said:
I treat my System Menu as simple OS GUI. I want everything accessible from one page. No scrolling. So that leaves me with what, 12 channels to play with? Less, if you consider the items that have to be there due to not working off the SD Menu, or whatever.
SS4Gogita said:
I never meant to imply that it was difficult, just a pain in the ass. And an ass pain that can easily be completely lost should Nintendo decide to zap 'em.
I'm actually pretty content with my current layout. I've got all of my Wii games one menu away. The first two or so pages of my SD Menu double as my WiiWare / Arcade menu. The rest of the pages are divvied up amongst the various VC consoles... everything conveniently one menu level away. I love it. Even my System Menu has empty channels to separate the various "categories" that I have the channels grouped into. It's very comfortable, to me, and I wouldn't "dilute" this in any way by dropping in select Wii Disc Game Channels.
I can see the appeal, but it's not for me. Trust me, if I could truly separate the SD Menu, I would. I'm one of those that has been crying since VC day 1 for "console channels" accessible via the System Menu. It hasn't quite happened, but the SD Menu itself is a decent enough compromise. I kind of wish those 20 or so pages of channels weren't already half full, though!
SS4Gogita said:
I was a big fan of Ult USB Loader, and wasn't really pleased to hear that those responsible for its best features moved onto that slow-moving GUI team. It still lacks a couple of features, IMHO, whereas Cfg USB Loader has every single important Ult feature, and plenty more. With the addition of an admittedly cruder GUI, Cfg USB Loader is basically the most feature-rich loader out there, IMHO; and truly based off USBL 1.5, not 1.1 with some 1.5 features hacked in, like too many other loaders.
Well, currently I'm "running" 3.2U, HBC, Ult USB loader, and want to install ScummVM eventually. Not really planning on doing much else, but I want to get Punch Out/Boom Blox (and then yank it to the USB drive). If I upgrade to 4.0 the Nintendo way, will I need to do anything else if I just want to maintain that functionality? I've never used a downgrader (to my knowledge, I mostly followed the Stumpy method).Mejilan said:^^
Not sure I understand your question.
Updating via Nintendo (which I actually recommend) basically causes you to lose all of those nice older trucha-exploitable IOSes, since Nintendo patches newer IOS versions fixing the exploits. Nothing a quick IOS Downgrader (which I also recommend) won't reverse, though!
Waninkoko's updater is a bit more hack-y, as it installs most elements of Nintendo's 4.0 update, while purporting to avoid those IOS patches, or auto-reverse them.
I'd rather avoid that, however, and patch the IOS exploits back in after the fact. Safer, in my mind. As long as you have HBC (and earlier cases, a cIOS) installed, patching the exploits back in after a Nintendo 4.0 update was a trivial matter.
Also, do the IOS downgraders (I'm assuming there are multiple) require an internet connection? I use the LAN adapter and had major problems getting USB loader to work- I had system-freezing code dumps until I yanked out the adapter, wiped the settings, and took out the Wavebird adapters.
I believe you can install Punch-Out!! from the disc and stay on 3.2. That way you won't lose or have to redo anything. If you do upgrade to 4.0, you will need to do the downgrading if you want to get other IOSes installed (like the IOS 222/223 that fix spindown and allow Wii Speak to work), but if you do all that first, you'll be fine. Only upgrade to 4.0 if you want the normal channels on SD stuff.Zachack said:
Some do, some don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11gvyJSkU3Q&fmt=35Wray said:
This video here should give you an idea.
OK, so the new Configurable USB Loader version that supports LAN adapters, Wii Speak and fixes spindown is now available. There are two versions and you only need the second version if the first doesn't work. It seems the problem may be to do with having multiple partitions on the drive. In any case, here's the steps:
To install Hermes' cIOS 223:
To install cfg USB Loader:
If the above hangs when you try to play a game, do the following:
Again, this should fix spindown errors and get LAN adapters, Wii Speak and Guitar Hero going. Take a look through readme-cfg in the cfgv31a download to see how you can use and configure the loader to look however you want.
To install Hermes' cIOS 223:
- Get uLoader + cIOS installer from here.
- Add the apps directory to your SD card.
- Run cIOS Updater in the HBC
- Choose cIOS223 and choose IOS36 merged with IOS37
- Let the install complete
To install cfg USB Loader:
- Get configurable Loader v31a from the link in this post.
- Install the contents of InSDRoot to your SD card (it will add stuff to the apps folder and install some other directories)
- Edit the file sd:/apps/usbloader/config.txt to add the line "ios=223-mload"
- Plug your drive into the USB slot near the edge of the Wii
- Run USB Loader and select your game to play, it should work without spindown errors and let the other slot handle normal Wii devices
If the above hangs when you try to play a game, do the following:
- Get the .dol file for cfgv31aa from here.
- Rename it to boot.dol and replace the file in sd:/apps/usbloader with this one.
- It should now work
Again, this should fix spindown errors and get LAN adapters, Wii Speak and Guitar Hero going. Take a look through readme-cfg in the cfgv31a download to see how you can use and configure the loader to look however you want.
StopMakingSense
Member
Wray said:
Nah, they are ports of existing emulation software. In general the usual suspect emulators are fantastic, and leverage the Wii's added capacity for displaying games at glorious low res which looks GORGEOUS on modern SDTVs.
Yes, unless the previous USB Loader you installed was uLoader v1.6 or greater (which means you already did the first step). cIOS223 is an alternative to cIOS36 rev 10 (cIOS249). It fixes some of the problems with IOS249 and allows you to use the other USB devices, etc.Gagaman said:
Well, I guess if you've already installed Configurable USB loader, then all you need is to replace boot.dol from v31a or v31aa (use 31aa if your drive is partitioned)
EphemeralDream
Member
I think user Tantric is responsible for bringing those 3 emulators over to the Wii and he's doing an amazing job updating the software and making it more Wii friendly as time rolls on. I haven't played around too much but NES and SNES support should be more than sufficient enough for the average Wiibrewer. It won't stand toe-to-toe with VC but that should be expected. Also the GBA emulator seems alright (might be some slowdown) although on my widescreen monitor, seemed hard to find a serviceable aspect ratio setting.Wray said:
Other consoles aren't as consistent in support but as the homebrew base grows, it should get better. Don't expect too much from the Neo-Geo or N64 emulators, they're still young in the tooth.
Ultimate had one (or more) complete releases every day, each one adding substantial new features. Keeping their pace was hard, I even stopped after 6.7.SS4Gogita said:
Too bad, because when I heard they were joining the GUI project I was happy. I assumed they were going to use the already perfected code from Ultimate, just adding a better GUI and keeping improving it.
But they didn't, and I hear USB Loader GX (haven't tried it yet) is still lacking many features Ultimate had.
Dalthien said:
This is exactly what I needed, thanks Dalthien.
So what is the advantage of keeping the trucha bug versions of the above IOS files? Do certain homebrew apps require them? Configurable USB Loader still seems to work but that is expected since it uses IOS249 and the homebrew I frequent (NES/SNES/HBB/etc) all seems to work fine as well.
Oh and for the record, Punch-Out!! played just fine via USB Loader without the System Update it demanded - and everything still seems the same after the update, which makes me question the usefulness of the trucha bug IOS files.
Alright so I have a US NTSC launch Wii with a WiiKey installed and HBC installed via Twilight Hack. It's current firmware is 3.3US.
I want to update to 4.0 to access Shop Channel and put games on an SD card, is there anything I should do specifically?
Last night I installed BootMii and DVDX but I'm not sure if DVDX is working, it won't play any DVD movies when I try using mPlayer.
I want to update to 4.0 to access Shop Channel and put games on an SD card, is there anything I should do specifically?
Last night I installed BootMii and DVDX but I'm not sure if DVDX is working, it won't play any DVD movies when I try using mPlayer.
I'm not sure about DVDX (don't use it myself), but if you want to use one of the USB Loaders down the line, you should install either cIOS rev 10 and/or cIOS 222/223 before you update.Hero said:
One thought on the DVDX thing... have you tried disabling the Wiikey? It could be doing something to the disc type which causes DVDX to not recognise the disc.
There were some early homebrew apps that used the trucha bug in some of those IOS files, but with the creation of the cIOS files in the homebrew scene, there really isn't much use for the trucha bug in those early IOS files any longer because just about everything in the homebrew scene uses the cIOS files now. But there are still some uses for the trucha bug in those early IOS files that are affected by 'IOS Downgrader'. One such example would be the pre-3.4 version of the DVDx installer. The pre-3.4 version is the only version of the DVDx installer that comes with the 'Advanced' option that lets you select the IOS to use for DVDx. But you need the trucha bug available in the IOS files from the 'IOS Downgrader' in order for the pre-3.4 installer to work. Otherwise, you have to use the 3.4 version of DVDx which does not have the 'Advanced' option available.SS4Rob said:
As far as playing games, it doesn't matter which version of the IOS file you have, as long as you have the necessary IOS file. For example, if a game needs IOS15 to run, it will run whether you have an early version of IOS15 with the trucha bug still intact, or if you have a more recent updated version of IOS15 that blocks the trucha bug. It doesn't matter as far as the game goes as long as you have IOS15 on your Wii.
The trucha bug is a bug that allows coders to 'fakesign' content so that the Wii believes that the code carries an official Nintendo signature on it, even though it really doesn't. Therefore the Wii will run the code because it believes that it is official Nintendo code. Without the trucha bug, there is no way to run this 'fakesigned' code.
At this point, the only real use for the trucha bug in most of those IOS files that 'IOS Downgrader' downgrades is for modified versions of games that use any of those IOS files to run. If you modified any of the content on your game discs that use those IOS files, then you will need those IOS files to have the trucha bug in order to play the modified versions of those games. For example, if you fakesigned your Manhunt 2 disc in order to play the uncensored version of that game, or if you modified your Guitar Hero disc in order to change the songs on your disc. For those types of modifications to work, you would need to have the trucha bug in those IOS files that the game uses to run.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Hero said:
DVDx needs to be custom patched to IOS202 for the Mplayer TT / CE builds. That can't be done from 3.4 onwards.
I found this out myself this week. Surely a way of doing it will be released or a new version of Mplayer will be released that uses DVDx as found where BootMii installer installs it... if not, you might have to downgrade firmware, install DVDx to that slot and then re-upgrade.
StopMakingSense
Member
Ooh, excited about BootMii Beta 2, faster bootup would be awesome.
Only the pre-3.4 version of the DVDx installer allows you to use the 'Advanced' option, which lets you select your own custom IOS for DVDx to run on. The post-3.4 version of DVDx does not have this 'Advanced' option.radioheadrule83 said:
You need the trucha bug in the early IOS files for the pre-3.4 DVDx installer to work. So even if you are on firmware 4.0, if you run 'IOS Downgrader', then you will have the trucha bug back and you can then run the pre-3.4 DVDx installer.
So run 'IOS Downgrader' (this will reset a bunch of IOS files to their earlier trucha bug versions), then install the USB2.0-cIOS beta3 (install as IOS202 using IOS36), then run the pre-3.4 DVDx installer and select the 'Advanced' option, and then select IOS202 in the 'Advanced' option. Now DVDx will run on IOS202 when you use it.
Thanks for the info.
Installed Beta2 as boot2, and yep, everything is faster. Faster SD reading also with the HBC 1.0.3 (I had slow reading with 1.0.2).
Amazing that you don't need to reformat now to backup your NAND.
The only downside is that wavebird isn't implemented yet, but I can live with the Power+Reset buttons
Installed Beta2 as boot2, and yep, everything is faster. Faster SD reading also with the HBC 1.0.3 (I had slow reading with 1.0.2).
Amazing that you don't need to reformat now to backup your NAND.
The only downside is that wavebird isn't implemented yet, but I can live with the Power+Reset buttons
StopMakingSense
Member
Yeah, it is much faster. First time I ever ran beta 1 there were a few seconds of panic when it was taking its time loading.