GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

The_Technomancer said:
This is a minor quibble, but the cfg loader currently always automatically scans for WBFS and when it fails I have to manually select my FAT drive. Is there any way to get it to jump directly there?

EDIT: Holy Load Times in Brawl Batman! Daaaaaamn that boots fast.
You need to edit config.txt or settings.cfg as suggested earlier. The easiest way is just to save global settings in Cfg after choosing your partition. To do so, push 1 twice (to get to global options page) and then push 2 to save.

Shin Johnpv said:
Just letting people know, that even if you updated to 4.3 Metroid Other M still has a system update on it, no idea what it does though.
It installs the previously Korean-only IOSes that were originally used to allow you to downgrade IOS15. This blocks that exploit, but we came up with a new one before it was blocked anyway.

Wario64 said:
So 249 is okay for FAT32? Which rev is the best then?
The one in the tutorial will always be the best choice. So go here.

MidnightScott said:
Alright my Wii is still 4.2, I have homebrew channel. I can just update it and I won't lose homebrew channel right? I only use it to play my import games.

Also, I have a translation patch for Fatal Frame 4, will the update restrict me from doing that anymore?
Yes, update your HBC. Of course you should. I don't understand why anyone would consider avoiding this.

DeathbyVolcano said:
I haven't updated anything in my homebrew channel for eeeeeever. I also have not updated to 4.3, obviously. I'm just trying to gage: is it worth updating the homebrew channel to the newest version? Will it get rid of anything that I already have installed?
Refer to my previous comment.

captmcblack said:
Question:

I dunno if this is piracy or something like that, but I was looking to see if there are automatic tools for softmodding the Wii, and I discovered Hackmii (which is on the Homebrew Wiki) and Modmii (which isn't). Does that mean Modmii is piracy or bad to use?
Previously, you could only get USB 2.0 support via cIOS. With the new HBC, that's not needed any more, so they removed all apps that have the ability to install cIOSes from Wiibrew as they find it dangerous and consider them now only useful for piracy (which is not the case if you use them responsibly).

Also, keep in mind that the Wiki we typically refer to as the Homebrew Wiki here is GAF's Wii Homebrew Tutorial.

ModMii is an application that can download a whole bunch of stuff to your PC and help you install things. It was call the NUSAD until very recently. While it does group a bunch of useful tools, many of the things it suggests you install are only useful for pirates, and the methods it uses to download WADs of IOSes and so on is very questionably legal. The GWHT is just as easy to follow and will keep you ethically satisfied to boot.

Chesskid1 said:
i have a few questions, i just did the tutorial last night (well i had my wii softmodded for a while but i updated).

i could NEVER EVER get my wii to detect my 500GB HDD no matter what i did (even in WBFS, before FAT32 worked). I gave up and now use it for my PS3 in FAT32 and i got a 16GB flash drive just to store a few games for wii since USB loaders don't wear on the laser. anyways, i read the last couple pages of the thread and learned Wii now supports FAT32. I got the -222 version of cfg usb loader (regular version didn't work), and boom, insta detected and i was installing a game.

now my questions are..

1) since FAT32 is readable by windows, can i store covers for the usb loader? homebrew apps that take alot of space?

2) i used to use WBFS manager 3.0 (basically a backup manager type program) to download covers, ie i would unplug my old WBFS flash drive, put it into PC, it would detect all my games, and it would download all the covers to which i would copy to SD. i could also extract the games from WBFS and store the iso's on my computer. handy since i could only store a few games on my small flash drive, incase the discs get lost/could not be read. is there a similiar program now that i will be copying all my games to the FAT32 HDD? i don't have it connected to internet so if there's a program like that it would be awesome. (no wireless here), basically a program to look at my FAT32 HDD and detect the games list, download all the covers, etc.
1) Yes. Just set your cover directories up on the hard drive and use the covers_path options in the Configurator to point them to the correct locations, e.g., "covers_path_3d=usb:/covers/3d".

2) The Configurator application that comes with Cfg and is discussed on the Configurable Options page of the tutorial allows you to handle your covers.
 
Okay, so I'm probably buying Other M later this week. If my Wii is already homebrewed, do I need to worry about the update? I last updated the core homebrew stuff (outside of 249 which was just done yesterday) about three months ago, do I somehow need to upgrade again?
 
The_Technomancer said:
Okay, so I'm probably buying Other M later this week. If my Wii is already homebrewed, do I need to worry about the update? I last updated the core homebrew stuff (outside of 249 which was just done yesterday) about three months ago, do I somehow need to upgrade again?
Make sure you have the latest Homebrew Channel. Everything else is easy to replace after the update (and most of it will be deleted and you will have to replace it).
 
Clipper said:
Make sure you have the latest Homebrew Channel. Everything else is easy to replace after the update (and most of it will be deleted and you will have to replace it).

so the other m update wont brick your wii, it'll just require you to reinstall the homebrew channel?

i tried to do the workaround for disc updates, but the file i need to download is a busted link. as long as it doesn't cause any fatal issues, i dont really have a problem with just going ahead with the update anyways, but I wanna be sure....
 
autobzooty said:
so the other m update wont brick your wii, it'll just require you to reinstall the homebrew channel?

i tried to do the workaround for disc updates, but the file i need to download is a busted link. as long as it doesn't cause any fatal issues, i dont really have a problem with just going ahead with the update anyways, but I wanna be sure....
Yes. Having homebrew during the update will not brick your Wii.
 
Clipper, I have two questions for you.

I just formatted a WD Essential 320GB to FAT32 and have added Metroid Other M to it. I have a folder called 'WBFS' and inside that folder is another folder with some files with extensions of .wbf1 and.wbfs. Is this correct or should I be seeing .iso files?

Secondly, I have an ISO file on my PC HDD that I want to transfer to the USB drive so that I can use it under USB Loader. The disc has some scratches and the Wii refuses to read it, so I put it into my PC DVD and made an ISO out of it. How can I get it from the PC to the USB drive?
 
Spike said:
Clipper, I have two questions for you.

I just formatted a WD Essential 320GB to FAT32 and have added Metroid Other M to it. I have a folder called 'WBFS' and inside that folder is another folder with some files with extensions of .wbf1 and.wbfs. Is this correct or should I be seeing .iso files?

Secondly, I have an ISO file on my PC HDD that I want to transfer to the USB drive so that I can use it under USB Loader. The disc has some scratches and the Wii refuses to read it, so I put it into my PC DVD and made an ISO out of it. How can I get it from the PC to the USB drive?
Yes, that is what you should expect for Metroid: Other M.

As for the other question, I need more information. Could you please further explain your method for creating the ISO from the disc?
 
Clipper said:
Yes, that is what you should expect for Metroid: Other M.

As for the other question, I need more information. Could you please further explain your method for creating the ISO from the disc?

It wasn't made from the disc itself. I used a program called WBFS GUI to backup the file from my WBFS USB drive to my PC HDD. They have a function called Advanced Extraction, so I used that and backed up the problem game to my HDD. It created an ISO file on my PC HDD. Now, it seems, that this program only deals with WBFS formatted drives, so I cannot find a way to get it back onto the now newly formatted FAT32 drive.

It's not a problem though, I can just go through the regular install method again. It's just that it's my copy of Jungle Beat has some pretty significant scratches. When I installed it originally on the WBFS formatted drive, it took a long, long time to load it on there. Alot longer than my dual-layer MPT or SSBM discs. And, the drive was making a grinding like noise when reading the disc. It only happens when this disc is inserted into the Wii. I guess I should just go out and buy a new copy of the game.
 
Spike said:
It wasn't made from the disc itself. I used a program called WBFS GUI to backup the file from my WBFS USB drive to my PC HDD. They have a function called Advanced Extraction, so I used that and backed up the problem game to my HDD. It created an ISO file on my PC HDD. Now, it seems, that this program only deals with WBFS formatted drives, so I cannot find a way to get it back onto the now newly formatted FAT32 drive.

It's not a problem though, I can just go through the regular install method again. It's just that it's my copy of Jungle Beat has some pretty significant scratches. When I installed it originally on the WBFS formatted drive, it took a long, long time to load it on there. Alot longer than my dual-layer MPT or SSBM discs. And, the drive was making a grinding like noise when reading the disc. It only happens when this disc is inserted into the Wii. I guess I should just go out and buy a new copy of the game.
Well, if you are transferring from a WBFS drive, then you should just use the WBFS to FAT Transfer method.
 
Kilrogg said:
Thanks a lot, Clipper.

Since I still want to be able to launch games from the discs, I wanted to download Startpatch 4.2.6 for my 4.2E Wii. Problem is, the Startpatch needed for a 4.2E Wii which is supposed to be downloadable on this page isn't available any more, the mediafire link for it is dead.

The only alternative I found so far is this page, which contains 4.2.6 for all regions — virus-free according to AntiVir —, but it's not an elegant solution for two reasons: 1) it's in French; 2) you have to register beforehand. After doing that I was able to download the file all right.

I took the liberty to reupload the file to mediafire. You can find it here. If anyone has an account on Wiibrew, feel free to replace the old download link on the Startpatch page with this one.
It's still not updated on Wiibrew. I downloaded the one you rehosted and many of the files/folders have "pal" in the name, but I have a US NTSC Wii. However, the French site you link states that their download is for all types of Wiis. Did you only rehost a PAL version?
 
UncleSporky said:
It's still not updated on Wiibrew. I downloaded the one you rehosted and many of the files/folders have "pal" in the name, but I have a US NTSC Wii. However, the French site you link states that their download is for all types of Wiis. Did you only rehost a PAL version?
Yeah, Kilrogg's link seems to only be the PAL one.
 
Thanks for replying about Modmii vs. Hackmii, all!
So now, my question is about Wii hardware itself. From reading the Wiki, it seems like the hw doesn't matter - it's all about the FW revision when considering running homebrew for the Wii. Is that true, though? Is there anything I should look for in the hardware to identify a homebrew-capable Wii? Are brand-new black Wiis as completely/easily hackable as an older white one?
 
Whoops, sorry (and thanks, UncleSporky), I only uploaded the PAL files because the US NTSC files are available on Wiibrew. At least they were at the time of typing.

To reiterate: if anyone's got a Wiibrew account, feel free to update the page with working download links.
 
If I go out right now and buy a black wii, can I get homebrew going on it? I have a launch unit running fine in my sons room, but we want to have another in the living room for family events and such.

Many thanks!
 
Has anyone else had issues with Metroid: Other M via USB loader? I suspect it may be because I'm using 249 rev. 10, but I've had the game refuse to load several times between doors in several places. I've been playing it using the disc temporarily, but I suspect upgrading to rev. 20 may resolve the issue.
 
scurker said:
Has anyone else had issues with Metroid: Other M via USB loader? I suspect it may be because I'm using 249 rev. 10, but I've had the game refuse to load several times between doors in several places. I've been playing it using the disc temporarily, but I suspect upgrading to rev. 20 may resolve the issue.
Upgrading cant hurt. Rev 10 is incredibly obsolete. Additionally, older Wanin CIOSes had some serious issues with dual layer games, which Other M is. I can't remember if rev 10 was just before or just after he squashed the dual layer bug. It matters little, because rev 20 is his best CIOS yet. By a fair margin.
 
Mejilan said:
Upgrading cant hurt. Rev 10 is incredibly obsolete. Additionally, older Wanin CIOSes had some serious issues with dual layer games, which Other M is. I can't remember if rev 10 was just before or just after he squashed the dual layer bug. It matters little, because rev 20 is his best CIOS yet. By a fair margin.
Admittedly, I can't remember myself - but I've had an attitude of, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" I've been able to play both SSB:Brawl and Metroid Trilogy, so this is the first game where I've encountered an issue (supposedly) with duel layer. I've been going through the process of converting everything over to FAT32 this morning and am currently copying everything back to the drive so I should be able to assess tonight whether or not it solves the issue.

Noticed another page that may be outdated. If FAT32 is indeed where everyone needs to go, maybe this should be changed?

GAF Wii Homebrew Wiki said:
16. When done, move your drive back to your Wii and start USB Loader. It should detect and format the unformatted partition you just created to WBFS and start working.
 
v60a of Cfg is out and it supports NTFS write. That means you can now use an NTFS partition. Note that it is not fully tested yet, so don't start putting games onto a drive with data you still need.

str8-h4x said:
If I go out right now and buy a black wii, can I get homebrew going on it? I have a launch unit running fine in my sons room, but we want to have another in the living room for family events and such.

Many thanks!
Yes you can.

scurker said:
Noticed another page that may be outdated. If FAT32 is indeed where everyone needs to go, maybe this should be changed?
Formatting to FAT32 is a lot easier, and I give alternative tools on the other pages and in the introduction to that page. The page remains for those that do want to use WBFS, although I agree it's a bit less useful, especially given the release of 60a. I'll be making a lot of changes today, so look for that to change.
 
Interesting. What are the main uses of NTFS over FAT? I know that it's a bit more stable, but I can't remember if it plays nice with OSX (which is what I'd be using the rest of the drive for).

Also very stupid question, but when I update IOS249, I should just update USBloader to whatever one uses IOS249 natively right? It'll still read the FAT partition because of the config already being set to Partition = FAT1 right?
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Interesting. What are the main uses of NTFS over FAT? I know that it's a bit more stable, but I can't remember if it plays nice with OSX (which is what I'd be using the rest of the drive for).

Also very stupid question, but when I update IOS249, I should just update USBloader to whatever one uses IOS249 natively right? It'll still read the FAT partition because of the config already being set to Partition = FAT1 right?
Your files can exceed 4.whatever gigs in ntfs, for one. I'm sure there are other differences, it's just that nothing comes to mind
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
Your files can exceed 4.whatever gigs in ntfs, for one. I'm sure there are other differences, it's just that nothing comes to mind

Well yeah, I know that, but I hope that the FAT version doesn't its support dropped because NTFS and OSX don't play nice apparently (it's read only on OSX, which is stupid), and I'd rather not have to repartition the drive.
 
Is there any way to install BootMii as boot2 on version 4.2 firmware? I have the HackMii installer v0.8 and the only option is to install as an IOS..which from what I gather is practically useless.
 
Baron Aloha said:
Is there any way to install BootMii as boot2 on version 4.2 firmware? I have the HackMii installer v0.8 and the only option is to install as an IOS..which from what I gather is practically useless.

Bootmii relies not on the firmware, but the actual motherboard of the Wii. In later models, the boot2 sector that was exploited by Team Twiizers was redesigned and is now unable to be rewritten. Putting bootmii as an IOS is still better than nothing.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Interesting. What are the main uses of NTFS over FAT? I know that it's a bit more stable, but I can't remember if it plays nice with OSX (which is what I'd be using the rest of the drive for).

Also very stupid question, but when I update IOS249, I should just update USBloader to whatever one uses IOS249 natively right? It'll still read the FAT partition because of the config already being set to Partition = FAT1 right?
Yeah NTFS doesn't play nice with Macs. There's not much advantage of one over the other, unless you're a very lazy pirate (because NTFS will support full-sized ISO files). Hence, it's a tie with you likely choosing based on what your other needs are.

And yes, your partition should either be set in config.txt or settings.cfg. If it isn't, then Cfg will ask you to select your partition at startup, and you can save that selection to settings.cfg by pushing 1 twice then 2.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
You will be continuing support for the FAT version of CFGUSBloader right?
There is no FAT version of Cfg...

We will continue supporting both WBFS and FAT partitions, of course.

We might deprecate the -222 versions of Cfg, though, as we can now achieve exactly the same functionality via meta.xml.
 
So I did the 4.3 upgrade on the Other M disc, thinking I was safe because I was already on 4.2.

Problem is, I forgot to update the HBC. Now it's disappeared.

Am I screwed?
 
legend166 said:
So I did the 4.3 upgrade on the Other M disc, thinking I was safe because I was already on 4.2.

Problem is, I forgot to update the HBC. Now it's disappeared.

Am I screwed?
Not totally. If you had either BootMii as boot2 or a forwarder channel for Cfg installed, you are perfectly fine. If not, you need particular games. All methods to get your HBC back are listed on this page.
 
Clipper said:
Not totally. If you had either BootMii as boot2 or a forwarder channel for Cfg installed, you are perfectly fine. If not, you need particular games. All methods to get your HBC back are listed on this page.


Ah crap.



.....anyone got a copy of Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventure they want to lend me? :lol
 
So Nintendo refused to fix my broken disc drive because they found evidence of the HBC even though it got deleted months ago.

I guess my question is: what are my options? Could I buy another Wii and send it in with the old one to have my purchases transferred? I could replace the disc drive myself, but I don't really trust myself as a technician. At this point, I'm leaning towards option C, sell all my merchandise for damage control and buy a 360 or PS3.

This is an absolutely terrible policy, Nintendo. I gave you my 80 dollars for the repair, I bought your system and a shit ton of your games, and now you're punishing me for wanting to play Disastah and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Ugh.
 
pakkit said:
So Nintendo refused to fix my broken disc drive because they found evidence of the HBC even though it got deleted months ago.

I guess my question is: what are my options? Could I buy another Wii and send it in with the old one to have my purchases transferred? I could replace the disc drive myself, but I don't really trust myself as a technician. At this point, I'm leaning towards option C, sell all my merchandise for damage control and buy a 360 or PS3.

This is an absolutely terrible policy, Nintendo. I gave you my 80 dollars for the repair, I bought your system and a shit ton of your games, and now you're punishing me for wanting to play Disastah and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Ugh.


While it is their prerogative to deny you service, I suggest you call back and explain that you have bought many Nintendo games, have been a loyal fan and that your problem is entirely mechanical and they should at least try to replace the drive for you.

Do tell them this problem has made you consider selling off your Wii and collection in favour of the competition.

It may not work, but you never know.
 
pakkit said:
So Nintendo refused to fix my broken disc drive because they found evidence of the HBC even though it got deleted months ago.

I guess my question is: what are my options? Could I buy another Wii and send it in with the old one to have my purchases transferred? I could replace the disc drive myself, but I don't really trust myself as a technician. At this point, I'm leaning towards option C, sell all my merchandise for damage control and buy a 360 or PS3.

This is an absolutely terrible policy, Nintendo. I gave you my 80 dollars for the repair, I bought your system and a shit ton of your games, and now you're punishing me for wanting to play Disastah and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Ugh.
They took your money and refused to fix it? I'm not sure they're allowed to do that. They do have the right to refuse repair, but they should at least be refunding the repair fee.
 
pakkit said:
So Nintendo refused to fix my broken disc drive because they found evidence of the HBC even though it got deleted months ago.

I guess my question is: what are my options? Could I buy another Wii and send it in with the old one to have my purchases transferred? I could replace the disc drive myself, but I don't really trust myself as a technician. At this point, I'm leaning towards option C, sell all my merchandise for damage control and buy a 360 or PS3.

This is an absolutely terrible policy, Nintendo. I gave you my 80 dollars for the repair, I bought your system and a shit ton of your games, and now you're punishing me for wanting to play Disastah and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Ugh.

I wonder how they were able to find out that the channel was installed even though you deleted it. Perhaps through the message board logs? I've been debating whether to install HB or not but I'm not sure if I want to go through with it yet. I don't use my Wii much but I have already used the HB channel in the past so I guess if my Wii broke they would refuse to fix it.
 
i played about 2 hrs of m with 222. no issues there. 223 froze once, i think. actually, it could have been the games fault (one of those scenes where you have to point at something).
 
Now i'm having trouble installing ios236

It's saved in the correct directory on the sd card, but i keep getting this message:

Could not open file: sd:/ios36-64-v3351.wad
Could not open file: sd:/ios36-64-v3351.wad.out.wad
Error reading ios into memory
ios install failed

Help?
 
velvet_nitemare said:
Now i'm having trouble installing ios236

It's saved in the correct directory on the sd card, but i keep getting this message:

Could not open file: sd:/ios36-64-v3351.wad
Could not open file: sd:/ios36-64-v3351.wad.out.wad
Error reading ios into memory
ios install failed

Help?
Choose network installation instead of wad installation.
 
velvet_nitemare said:
I searched the wiki and found a potential fix. Trying it now.

Freeze's around the part where she talks about operation baby's cry.
OK, new question:

Why did you download the game off the Internet rather than ripping it from a disc?
 
Clipper said:
OK, new question:

Why did you download the game off the Internet rather than ripping it from a disc?

Um, i have the disc right here. The question was more out of curiosity. I'm not very technical, so i need hand holding every step.
 
velvet_nitemare said:
Um, i have the disc right here. The question was more out of curiosity. I'm not very technical, so i need hand holding every step.

Considering that it is a well-known crash from downloading a pirated copy...
 
velvet_nitemare said:
Um, i have the disc right here. The question was more out of curiosity. I'm not very technical, so i need hand holding every step.
The "baby's cry" hang is a big problem seen in a faulty download that is present on the Internet. There is a very slight possibility your rip could have the same bug, but I doubt it. What IOS revision did you use to rip the game?

Cfg will tell you the IOS and revision you are currently using if you push 1 twice from the games list.
 
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