GAF Wii Homebrew thread: Homebrew, emulators, USB disc installs! Easy tutorial!

pgtl_10 said:
Okay after installing the browser what apps would you consider is must have? Also I saw the GAF Wiibrew guide mention IOS as a recommendation. What are those?
I am wondering if there is an "idiots" guide to the IOSes. I am thinking about installing Homebrew and have similar questions.
 
What is the story about retail disk auto update. I am on 4.3E, so why retail disk would ask for update ?? I read that slot 249 and 250 should not be used (but everybody install it there), so what is the big deal.
 
wazoo said:
What is the story about retail disk auto update. I am on 4.3E, so why retail disk would ask for update ??
You might not have every ios-file up to date, maybe the revision/version is 1024 on your Wii, but the same file on disc is 1236.
 
NTFS is now fast enough that you could enable the drive space calculation and it wouldn't cause too much of a delay. Apart from that, there's no real speed differences, so file size of other stuff you want on the drive is the only real determining factor.

So can ntfs drives be written to now? Like I can rip my games to it from CFG? It's also kind of a pain to have to separate the iso (LG drive) into smaller parts to fit the fat32 limit. I'd rather cut out the middle man and directly play the iso if it's >4gb
 
I so wanna do this for the eventual euro release of Xenoblade but i'm just so scared of bricking my Wii and losing all the Virtual Console games i bought.
 
I just picked up a wii on craigslist, and I want to pretty much do the opposite of this thread (kind of). Don't get mad!

The wii I picked up seems to had a bunch of homebrew stuff. Some of it was cool, some of it was probably not very legal.

I cleared off all the garbage as best I could, but now I am sitting on a modded Wii that I have no clue what mods were done.

Is there an easy way to get back to factory settings from a Wii that has been previously homebrew'd?

I am not entirely against homebrew, but I just feel like it was a hackjob that was done, and I have no clue how to go about fixing it up clean. I guess if there was a way to just upgrade it to the cleanest homebrew state without having old/broken stuff installed on it, that would be perfectly fine too.
 
Zee-Row said:
I so wanna do this for the eventual euro release of Xenoblade but i'm just so scared of bricking my Wii and losing all the Virtual Console games i bought.
Its easier than ever to avoid bricking your Wii. Nintendo has ceased trying to stop you, and you can back up your Wii if you make even the toughest of mistakes.

Don't be scared. Read the guide and ask questions here, its really easy to do this. The only thing stopping you at this point is you.
 
Big Papa Husker said:
I am wondering if there is an "idiots" guide to the IOSes. I am thinking about installing Homebrew and have similar questions.
pgtl_10 said:
Okay after installing the browser what apps would you consider is must have? Also I saw the GAF Wiibrew guide mention IOS as a recommendation. What are those?
http://gwht.wikidot.com/ioses-explained

wazoo said:
What is the story about retail disk auto update. I am on 4.3E, so why retail disk would ask for update ?? I read that slot 249 and 250 should not be used (but everybody install it there), so what is the big deal.
Those were the original slots and thus most tutorials use those. Nintendo started installing stubs into those slots with every update a while ago. However, when Waninkoko started allowing more slot choice and we consequently added a few more slots to Cfg, I realised it was a much better idea to only use slots 247, 248 and 224. Nintendo is not yet trying to overwrite these slots, so you can still use retail discs as they won't try to stub your installed slots. The other tutorials never bothered following suit because they generally think all USB Loader users are pirates.

Jazzy said:
So can ntfs drives be written to now? Like I can rip my games to it from CFG? It's also kind of a pain to have to separate the iso (LG drive) into smaller parts to fit the fat32 limit. I'd rather cut out the middle man and directly play the iso if it's >4gb
Yes, for quite a long time now. Add the ntfs_write=1 option to config.txt.

CrashPrime said:
Is there an easy way to get back to factory settings from a Wii that has been previously homebrew'd?
Not really, no. Your best option is to upgrade the HBC (it is perfectly safe), delete any other channels you don't need (AnyTitle Deleter helps here) and then do a system update. Unfortunately, if the guy who hacked the console is particularly stupid, he might have installed stuff that will kill the WIi on an update, though. You can generally protect against that by getting Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition and updating every one of the IOSes to be the latest ones released by Nintendo (which will take a while).
 
Clipper said:
Not really, no. Your best option is to upgrade the HBC (it is perfectly safe), delete any other channels you don't need (AnyTitle Deleter helps here) and then do a system update. Unfortunately, if the guy who hacked the console is particularly stupid, he might have installed stuff that will kill the WIi on an update, though. You can generally protect against that by getting Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition and updating every one of the IOSes to be the latest ones released by Nintendo (which will take a while).

Time to find a tutorial on how to use Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition to fix the IOSes. Argh. I don't suppose there's an automated way to fix them judging by the fact that you said this is gonna take awhile.

Oh well, I didn't have anything planned this sunday afternoon anyways. Will Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition let me look at what IOSes are installed?

Which ones have the potential to kill my wii? Is there an easy way to check all IOS versions and see which ones have been modified/installed?
 
Clipper said:
Those were the original slots and thus most tutorials use those. Nintendo started installing stubs into those slots with every update a while ago. However, when Waninkoko started allowing more slot choice and we consequently added a few more slots to Cfg, I realised it was a much better idea to only use slots 247, 248 and 224. Nintendo is not yet trying to overwrite these slots, so you can still use retail discs as they won't try to stub your installed slots. The other tutorials never bothered following suit because they generally think all USB Loader users are pirates.

It's a little bit academic for the legit users as well. When I moved from the old IOS slots I jumped through some hoops to get the 249 and 222/223 stubs reinstalled, just in case I wanted to play SMG2 off its disc. Now Other M insists on an update and I can't be arsed to figure out how to fix it--if I can rip the disc to HD and play from HD, who cares if I can't boot the game directly off disc?
 
CrashPrime said:
Time to find a tutorial on how to use Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition to fix the IOSes. Argh. I don't suppose there's an automated way to fix them judging by the fact that you said this is gonna take awhile.

Oh well, I didn't have anything planned this sunday afternoon anyways. Will Dop-Mii Wiibrew Edition let me look at what IOSes are installed?

Which ones have the potential to kill my wii? Is there an easy way to check all IOS versions and see which ones have been modified/installed?
Unfortunately, not that I know of and I don't have the time to write one up. Dop-Mii does tell you what you have installed and its version number. The Dop-Mii page on wiibrew.org will help you out with everything you need to get it going. Dop-Mii has a system check that will show you which IOSes are modified and so on. You want to replace the base-range IOSes with Nintendo's latest versions, but be very careful with the multiples of 10 (e.g., IOS60, IOS70) as those are needed for your firmwares and if you update an older one without updating the firmware, you are in trouble. Dop-Mii has some warnings to stop you from doing this, so pay attention. Actually, now that I think about it, I think the app might even have a method to bulk update to 4.3 properly, so if you see an option which does that, go with it, as it will be safe and easy.

TwinIonEngines said:
It's a little bit academic for the legit users as well. When I moved from the old IOS slots I jumped through some hoops to get the 249 and 222/223 stubs reinstalled, just in case I wanted to play SMG2 off its disc. Now Other M insists on an update and I can't be arsed to figure out how to fix it--if I can rip the disc to HD and play from HD, who cares if I can't boot the game directly off disc?
Yeah, but use the 247/248 slots as the tutorial now recommends and then perform one update from the Other M disc and it will never ask to update again and all your legit homebrew will still work.
 
So I put homebrew channel on my Wii last week, thanks for the guide. With your help and random internet stuff I got through it good installing the homebrew channel with some cios's.

My question though is that I installed a bunch of my games onto my 500GB WD HDD and I have some issues.
First, USB Loader GX doesnt seem to want to install the games, sometimes it gets stuck at 100%, other times it just doesnt start. But I have never had a successful install off that app, but I can install with Wiiflow program.
Second, The games will stop working somewhere within the game. Almost like it doesnt seen what to load next or something. Screen usually goes black and stays there. Could it be because Im using Wiiflow and that isnt that good of an app or something else? My HDD was Fat32 so I just reformated it to NTFS to see if that does anything different. Or is my HDD selection bad?

Thanks much.
 
Corran Horn said:
So I put homebrew channel on my Wii last week, thanks for the guide. With your help and random internet stuff I got through it good installing the homebrew channel with some cios's.

My question though is that I installed a bunch of my games onto my 500GB WD HDD and I have some issues.
First, USB Loader GX doesnt seem to want to install the games, sometimes it gets stuck at 100%, other times it just doesnt start. But I have never had a successful install off that app, but I can install with Wiiflow program.
Second, The games will stop working somewhere within the game. Almost like it doesnt seen what to load next or something. Screen usually goes black and stays there. Could it be because Im using Wiiflow and that isnt that good of an app or something else? My HDD was Fat32 so I just reformated it to NTFS to see if that does anything different. Or is my HDD selection bad?

Thanks much.
USB Loader GX is rubbish. Give it up. Cfg is much better, easier to use, cooler looking and has a ton more features. Wiiflow is all right and does look great, but if you want the newest stuff, like the d2x IOS reload blocking, you have to go with Cfg. Don't forget to add "ntfs_write=1" to your config.txt, as per the instructions in the GAF tutorial.

As to your problem, it sounds like you might be experiencing the age-old spindown issue. Look for apps to disable spindown or sleep mode on your drive. Failing that, make sure you are using d2x as your IOS and that might fix the issue. Some drives also like Heremes' IOS better, so you can test with it too. This is one of those things that there is no direct solution that works for everybody and you need to try out a few things or try a different drive.
 
Gvaz said:
Get an external and put it on wbfs. No need to scrub the disk!
WBFS is the worst choice. Both FAT32 and NTFS are easier to use and they also don't have the file corruption issue that WBFS drives do.
 
I had so much trouble with WBFS. The odd game would require numerous rips before it worked, and some rips because corrupt over time.
 
I've never had file corruption with wbfs and I have like 300+gb of games and have had my wii for like 2 years or something now.
 
Gvaz said:
I've never had file corruption with wbfs and I have like 300+gb of games and have had my wii for like 2 years or something now.
If you ever delete one of those games, you might start seeing errors very quickly. However, the exact cause isn't exactly clear. It's possible that if you used a loader to format the drive, you'll always be OK and it's just using the PC apps that are bad. In any case, WBFS is known to be unstable if you delete games and then install other games later.
 
Clipper said:
If you ever delete one of those games, you might start seeing errors very quickly. However, the exact cause isn't exactly clear. It's possible that if you used a loader to format the drive, you'll always be OK and it's just using the PC apps that are bad. In any case, WBFS is known to be unstable if you delete games and then install other games later.

How odd, I´ve been doing precisely that (using WBFS manager for Windows) for managing my games on HDD since the first USB loaders appeared, and I have yet to encounter an issue. Maybe its something to do with the HDD brand? I am really clueless about it, I´m just reporting my individual findings.
 
jbueno said:
How odd, I´ve been doing precisely that (using WBFS manager for Windows) for managing my games on HDD since the first USB loaders appeared, and I have yet to encounter an issue. Maybe its something to do with the HDD brand? I am really clueless about it, I´m just reporting my individual findings.
Yeah, not everybody gets the bug, but a lot of people do. And it's how you originally formatted the drive, not what you use to delete games that seems to be one of the deciding factors. Still, even without that, there's a significant number of people that have eventually developed issues. It manifests itself as older games getting corrupted when you install a new game.
 
jbueno said:
How odd, I´ve been doing precisely that (using WBFS manager for Windows) for managing my games on HDD since the first USB loaders appeared, and I have yet to encounter an issue. Maybe its something to do with the HDD brand? I am really clueless about it, I´m just reporting my individual findings.

WBFS has been fine for me over the last few years, gone through dozens of games and regularly have to swap them out anyway since I use a small drive.
 
Clipper said:
Yeah, but use the 247/248 slots as the tutorial now recommends and then perform one update from the Other M disc and it will never ask to update again and all your legit homebrew will still work.

I'm already using the new slots, so what you're saying is that I can run the Other M disc update without having to reinstall anything?
 
Clipper said:
Yeah, not everybody gets the bug, but a lot of people do. And it's how you originally formatted the drive, not what you use to delete games that seems to be one of the deciding factors. Still, even without that, there's a significant number of people that have eventually developed issues. It manifests itself as older games getting corrupted when you install a new game.

Well then, I guess I´ll be carefull from now on. I´ve been thinking about replacing the HDD as well, get a new one to use with the current standards. Thanks for the feedback!
 
TwinIonEngines said:
I'm already using the new slots, so what you're saying is that I can run the Other M disc update without having to reinstall anything?
Yep. As long as you have the newest HBC (from a year ago) and are using the new slots, then one update will make it so that it will never ask to update again and your homebrew will remain intact.
 
If you have the disks, set up a hard drive (wbfs or ntfs preferably) and rip the games to the hard drive using a backup loader (cfg usb loader preferably)

Once you do that, just connect your hard drive to your computer and copy the files over.
 
Anticitizen One said:
What app/channel do i need in order to get the ISO off of my games to be able to play them in Dolphin?
Set your Wii up for Cfg, format a drive to NTFS (only), add:

ntfs_write = 1
install_partitions = iso

to config.txt and then use the lus button in Cfg to rip your games. There is another app called something like CleanRip that will also work, and perhaps a little faster, but I have never used it.
 
Gvaz said:
If you have the disks, set up a hard drive (wbfs or ntfs preferably) and rip the games to the hard drive using a backup loader (cfg usb loader preferably)

Once you do that, just connect your hard drive to your computer and copy the files over.

I have the discs. Can't I just rip the ISO onto an SD card and then transfer them to my PC?
 
Anticitizen One said:
I have the discs. Can't I just rip the ISO onto an SD card and then transfer them to my PC?
Anticitizen One said:
Im attempting it right now. We'll see how it goes.

EDIT: ok finished looks like it broke the game up into RSBEO1, RSBEO2, etc.

Is there a way to put these together into an ISO?
You need to format the SD card as NTFS and add the options I mentioned in my previous reply if you are using Cfg. That will make it rip the game as a .iso for you rather than the split .wbfs format.

Those options to add to config.txt again are:
ntfs_write=1
install_partitions=iso

Also, after you have selected the SD as your source, save your settings to get it to remember to always use the SD (or you can also add device=sdhc to config.txt too).
 
So, I tried reading the GAF wiki thing and I'm completely confused. All I want is to make my Wii region free since it seems like NOA has no intent on bringing over Xenoblade/The Last Story/Pandora's Tower. At the same time however, I want to be able to play Skyward Sword. My question is that would modding it to region free prevent me from playing Skyward Sword when it comes out(I know the question sounds dumb but I'm thinking about maybe updated firmware that comes with the disc that may fuck up the homebrew)?

One more thing, my PC doesn't have an SD card reader and I don't believe I have one at the moment. Can't find this camera I had that probably has one. Are there any ways to do it through USB sticks?

-Thanks
 
Aurarian said:
So, I tried reading the GAF wiki thing and I'm completely confused. All I want is to make my Wii region free since it seems like NOA has no intent on bringing over Xenoblade/The Last Story/Pandora's Tower. At the same time however, I want to be able to play Skyward Sword. My question is that would modding it to region free prevent me from playing Skyward Sword when it comes out(I know the question sounds dumb but I'm thinking about maybe updated firmware that comes with the disc that may fuck up the homebrew)?

One more thing, my PC doesn't have an SD card reader and I don't believe I have one at the moment. Can't find this camera I had that probably has one. Are there any ways to do it through USB sticks?

-Thanks
From what I understand you need an sd card. You can get them for around $5-8. Theyre incredibly cheap. While your add it, it's much easier to just run games off a hard drive via a loader thats region free. I've had no trouble with games from other regions using Cfg loader, for example.
 
Yes, firmware updates can delete or disable homebrew. To avoid that, you'll either have to avoid getting official updates as soon as they're released (then wait for updates to your homebrew programs that will allow you to install Nintendo's updates without deleting homebrew) or use homebrew applications that let you bypass official firmware updates entirely (whether they're online or on discs).
 
Alright I have two Wii's a Japanese one and American one. Do I have to do anything different to get the Japanese one to run homebrew so I can play pal imports?
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
From what I understand you need an sd card. You can get them for around $5-8. Theyre incredibly cheap. While your add it, it's much easier to just run games off a hard drive via a loader thats region free. I've had no trouble with games from other regions using Cfg loader, for example.

Ah, well I could probably find one or get one no problem. My next question is how would I get the homebrew stuff onto the card if I don't have a reader for it? Also is that CFG loader only for making it do region free stuff? And the final question would I have access to my VC content after I homebrew or would I have to do something else as well to get that content working in conjunction with the homebrew channel/loader?

Sir Ilpalazzo said:
Yes, firmware updates can delete or disable homebrew. To avoid that, you'll either have to avoid getting official updates as soon as they're released (then wait for updates to your homebrew programs that will allow you to install Nintendo's updates without deleting homebrew) or use homebrew applications that let you bypass official firmware updates entirely (whether they're online or on discs).

Ok, so I would have to wait for the relevant update before playing Skyward Sword to avoid breaking my Wii basically?
 
Aurarian said:
Ok, so I would have to wait for the relevant update before playing Skyward Sword to avoid breaking my Wii basically?

You wouldn't really break your Wii. In this case, an official update would only delete some or all of your homebrew - your Wii would be fine.

You also wouldn't have to wait for a homebrew update, because there are ways to get around firmware updates on discs (or online).
 
I was reading the BootMii instructions off the wiki and it says that to install d2x I need to install both Boot2 and IOS. How do you do that? I haven't went through and installed the HBC or anything yet... actually I'm sitting at the Smash Bros "Vault" screen.
 
So I found an SD card in my sister's camera but it won't turn on with batteries and being plugged in to my PC. I have no sd-card reader or another camera/device(except my PS3 but that's not gonna work right?)with SD/USB connection. I'm totally screwed aren't I?
 
Aurarian said:
So I found an SD card in my sister's camera but it won't turn on with batteries and being plugged in to my PC. I have no sd-card reader or another camera/device(except my PS3 but that's not gonna work right?)with SD/USB connection. I'm totally screwed aren't I?
Just buy a $5 SD card reader.
 
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