LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
That's fair. Unfortunately for me, my role is hard to confirm, but I think you'll see I'm town in due time.
For now, I'm returning to either Kalor or AB for today. What are you guys' thoughts?
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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
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That's fair. Unfortunately for me, my role is hard to confirm, but I think you'll see I'm town in due time.
For now, I'm returning to either Kalor or AB for today. What are you guys' thoughts?
No, but i want to leave every option open. You are a good player and that could bite us in the ass. At the moment i do not think you are scum but the option still remains Bear.
Claims so far:
Launchpad - Claims 1-shot table scrambler, power works during night, but command is sent during the day. Affects 1 table of Launch's choosing. Flavor is ScraftyDevil, power or alignment hasn't been proven yet.
Xamtheking - Claims 2-shot table scrambler, power works during day. Affects both tables. Flavor is SalvaPot, power is proven, alignment is not.
Bronx-man - Claims gossip chat host, affects the two people sitting next to him. Flavor is Burbeting, power is proven, alignment is most likely town due to Scrafty checking him N1.
Terrabyte - Claims motion detector, is informed if there is acitivity in the seats next to him, but won't know if someone is targeting, or is being targeted. So far power or alignment is not proven. Can't remember if he claimed flavor.
nin1000 - Claims the same power, Ultron as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proven so far.
Kalor - Claims even night commuter. Xamtheking as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proben.
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Also:
Xamtheking & CzarTim claims being given a drink, n1 and n2 respectably. We don't know what the drink does so far.
Roytheone & Ourobolus claim to have been doused, n1 and n2 respectably. Seems to be connected to an arsonist, but we don't know for sure.
Launchpad - Claims 1-shot table scrambler, power works during night, but command is sent during the day. Affects 1 table of Launch's choosing. Flavor is ScraftyDevil, power or alignment hasn't been proven yet.
Xamtheking - Claims 2-shot table scrambler, power works during day. Affects both tables. Flavor is SalvaPot, power is proven, alignment is not.
Bronx-man - Claims gossip chat host, affects the two people sitting next to him. Flavor is Burbeting, power is proven, alignment is most likely town due to Scrafty checking him N1.
Terrabyte - Claims motion detector, is informed if there is acitivity in the seats next to him, but won't know if someone is targeting, or is being targeted. So far power or alignment is not proven. Can't remember if he claimed flavor.
nin1000 - Claims the same power, Ultron as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proven so far.
Kalor - Claims even night commuter. Xamtheking as flavor. Power nor alignment isn't proben.
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Also:
Xamtheking & CzarTim claims being given a drink, n1 and n2 respectably. We don't know what the drink does so far.
Roytheone & Ourobolus claim to have been doused, n1 and n2 respectably. Seems to be connected to an arsonist, but we don't know for sure.
AbsolutBro
Member
As much as I enjoy not really being the focus, theres not much to go on with just movement. I doubt we are at a point where mass claim is a good idea
Thank you, genuinely, for the laugh.
Out of curiousity, why are you so sure Tim isnt the arsonist?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Is there a reason I should be?
That's the thing, no one is sure at the moment.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Tim is usually cheekier when he has something to hide. That's the first of my gut read.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
My flavor is Roytheone, Night Owl
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
The gist*
Let's play the numbers game for a second.
I'm going to assume that there is 4 scum alive, and that there is an arsonist and a drink giver as neutrals. This is all just assumptions.
01. AbsolutBro [m]
02. Bronx-man [m] - Claims gossip chat
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
04. Burbeting [m]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m]
07. Fireblend [m]
08. Kalor [m] - Claims Commuter
09. LaunchpadMcQ [m] - Claims Scrambler
10. Nin1000 [m] - Claims motion detector
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
15. Terrabyte20xx [m] - Claims motion detector
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
18. Xamtheking [m]- Claims table scrambler
When I drop all of the claims, and myself out, the list looks like this:
01. AbsolutBro [m] - Likely Arsonist
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m] - Likely Arsonist
07. Fireblend [m]
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
I'm assuming that Kalor is scum, so that would leave us 3 Scum, 1 arsonist and 1 possible drink giver. 5 Non-town folk in that list of 11 players. Obviously you others should put me into that list/remove yourselves if you know you are town.
I'm going to assume that there is 4 scum alive, and that there is an arsonist and a drink giver as neutrals. This is all just assumptions.
01. AbsolutBro [m]
02. Bronx-man [m] - Claims gossip chat
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
04. Burbeting [m]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m]
07. Fireblend [m]
08. Kalor [m] - Claims Commuter
09. LaunchpadMcQ [m] - Claims Scrambler
10. Nin1000 [m] - Claims motion detector
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
15. Terrabyte20xx [m] - Claims motion detector
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
18. Xamtheking [m]- Claims table scrambler
When I drop all of the claims, and myself out, the list looks like this:
01. AbsolutBro [m] - Likely Arsonist
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
06. CzarTim [m] - Likely Arsonist
07. Fireblend [m]
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
14. Salvapot [m]
16. Timeaisis [m]
17. Ty4on [m]
I'm assuming that Kalor is scum, so that would leave us 3 Scum, 1 arsonist and 1 possible drink giver. 5 Non-town folk in that list of 11 players. Obviously you others should put me into that list/remove yourselves if you know you are town.
AbsolutBro
Member
He is an option and has been at both tables? If youre asking if I have reason to believe its him all I can offer is that it is down to him, me or you. You have claimed and I know it isnt me. Technically either of our douse-ees could also be the arsonist if he has to self immolate, but that is less likely.
Whereas my SW -> DR games with him show the opposite. As town in SW he was posting and hunting a lot. In DR he was scum and showed up primarily to distract or hunt for information.
The only thing I can say that I didn't move on the first night, there is not much else to it.
It was a coin toss between you or time tbh and looking at the other players it won't be of much impact today but at least we can clear something up if either of you gets taken out.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Nin, your ability right now is as useful as knowing these players underwear color. Anyone could have targeted them and produced a result for you.
Ok, make the case against Tim then. It's not me, seriously. I'm sure there's at least one PR that can confirm I'm telling the truth. You're the only one talking right now, so you've got control of the conversation.
AbsolutBro
Member
Sadly I pretty much already have. Given the short list of possible arsonists, knowing I am not the arsonist, if you arent Tim has to be. I could claim, but you have no reason to believe me and I have no way to prove it with Scrafty dead. Beat I can literally do is "nu-uh"
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hmm.
VOTE: CzarTim
VOTE: CzarTim
Current votes:
kalor (3)
burbeting 1288 (1486)
xamtheking 1469 (1499)
burbeting 1513
xamtheking 1535 (1768)
roytheone 1665
nin1000 1691 (1895)
timeaisis 1756
absolutbro (3)
czartim 1373
ourobolus 1481 (1546)
ourobolus 1550 (1597)
ourobolus 1606
launchpadmcq 1677 (1920)
xamtheking 1768
ourobolus (3)
burbeting 1486 (1513)
fireblend 1670
camjo-z 1695
salvapot 1748
czartim (2)
absolutbro 1625
launchpadmcq 1920
robotninjahornets (1)
salvapot 1442 (1506)
salvapot 1654 (1748)
kalor 1673
burbeting (1)
nin1000 1913
xamtheking (0)
kalor 1429 (1673)
timeaisis 1497 (1615)
xamtheking 1499 (1535)
salvapot 1506 (1635)
ourobolus 1546 (1550)
absolutbro 1554 (1625)
launchpadmcq 1585 (1636)
ourobolus 1597 (1606)
The following players do not have an active vote:
Bronx-man
BananaSpacePrincess
RobotNinjaHornets
Terrabyte20xx
Ty4on
kalor (3)
burbeting 1513
roytheone 1665
timeaisis 1756
absolutbro (3)
czartim 1373
ourobolus 1606
xamtheking 1768
ourobolus (3)
fireblend 1670
camjo-z 1695
salvapot 1748
czartim (2)
absolutbro 1625
launchpadmcq 1920
robotninjahornets (1)
kalor 1673
burbeting (1)
nin1000 1913
xamtheking (0)
The following players do not have an active vote:
Bronx-man
BananaSpacePrincess
RobotNinjaHornets
Terrabyte20xx
Ty4on
I swear to god I can't go to sleep without someone roleclaiming by the time I wake up.
Ok, so nin and Terra now are both Motion Detectors, and nin claims Ultron87 and Terra claims Roytheone.
I don't think it's that suspicious, though while it's possible that scum has a motion detector, AC (like Terra mentioned) had like...three (I think?) of them on Town's side.
Anyway, look, AB. I totally understand that it could be you OR Tim. Tim's been rather aloof to me, which seems like a really odd tactic to take if you are the arsonist (and it's Tim, I would think he would know better or be more involved trying to dissuade us from this line of thinking).
Ok, so nin and Terra now are both Motion Detectors, and nin claims Ultron87 and Terra claims Roytheone.
I don't think it's that suspicious, though while it's possible that scum has a motion detector, AC (like Terra mentioned) had like...three (I think?) of them on Town's side.
Anyway, look, AB. I totally understand that it could be you OR Tim. Tim's been rather aloof to me, which seems like a really odd tactic to take if you are the arsonist (and it's Tim, I would think he would know better or be more involved trying to dissuade us from this line of thinking).
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
What's striking me as really odd is that Tim must have known how precarious his role is if it's limited by a table. He would have seen that things would come down to this in this phase, even. Why would he up and disappear suddenly?
Tbh, that feels a bit too muh WIFOM to me.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Barely on the edge of WIFOM, but ok
When I say that, I mean that whoever arsonist is, propably wasn't expecting xam to be able to claim a role that was as easily provable as his role was. Arsonist could have tried to bet on town lynching Xam. So we can't really pinpoint Tim's actions to "oh arsonist wouldn't do that".
I can't really say for sure which one of the two is more likely arsonit, to be honest.
I can't really say for sure which one of the two is more likely arsonit, to be honest.
And if both happen to be town?
I'm not thrilled with hunting for the arsonist, which is why I have my vote on Ouro. There's no way I'm voting Tim right now after how hard he went after Weemad yesterday. I don't think an arsonist would scum-hunt so actively. If I was forced to vote for a likely arsonist, it'd be AB. Kalor is another decent lynch candidate, but I feel like Ouro is more threatening in that he's good at shaping discussion.
AbsolutBro
Member
I always have to laugh at this line of reasoning. "Oh Tim would know better, but you? You're just an idiot." lol I know you dont mean it that way, but thats the way it comes across.
Incidentally, the last time this was used against me was Princesses, where everyone was soooo convinced Darryl would NEVER do something like fake claim something that wasnt on the safe list.
We saw how that worked out, didnt we?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hmmm
Hmmm
It's definitely AB.
VOTE:AbsolutBro
Hmmm
It's definitely AB.
VOTE:AbsolutBro
I always have to laugh at this line of reasoning. "Oh Tim would know better, but you? You're just an idiot." lol I know you dont mean it that way, but thats the way it comes across.
Incidentally, the last time this was used against me was Princesses, where everyone was soooo convinced Darryl would NEVER do something like fake claim something that wasnt on the safe list.
We saw how that worked out, didnt we?
At the end of the day, AB, I don't have any hard feelings against you.
Also I could totally see Darryl doing that.
As can I see every damn person in Election doing it. ;_;
Xamtheking
Member
I'm going to call it a win if we lynch either scum or the arsonist today
Then either:
a) It's Launch or Xam, both have claimed another role
b) Arsonist is not tied to targeting the table they are sitting on.
I'm afraid of the second possibility, because in that case today will be wasted for all those people who keep chasing the arsonist.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Remember that one time I finally got an important role and CornBurrito had to go and post in the wrong chat, so I had to leave because I had 2 of the mafia names on day 1?
Good times. :|
Good times. :|
I don't think it is Xam. The fire alarm seems like too much, but...you never know.
Launch, on the other hand, I'm slightly less sure of. He reads town to me, but unless we have confirmation that something happened on N1 that wasn't supposed to happen, then I don't know.
Xamtheking
Member
Here's what we don't know:
The targeting properties of the arsonist
Here's what we do know:
Lynching scum is generally good for town.
The targeting properties of the arsonist
Here's what we do know:
Lynching scum is generally good for town.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Do you guys really think I'd put my ass in the wind like this on day 1? I've done fake roleclaims before, but they were mostly unconvincing and terrible.
IF Kalor is scum, it'll interesting to see in retrospect how many of the scum tried today to re-direct the discussion from him to lynching the arsonist.
I'm not saying it isn't possible. But I don't think it's the case. Scrafty's role, for instance, wasn't table specific, but it still had a condition in it that made it slightly different from a normal cop.
My gut feeling is that dousing is table-specific, and igniting can happen from anywhere.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Then we're fucked, I think, and it'll probably take lynching me to figure that out.
AbsolutBro
Member
sigh
I know. It was a comment on the reasoning, not the reasoner.
Prepare to lose then
Xamtheking
Member
Yes, because you have clearly given us towny vibes all game
To be perfectly honest, I think you are telling the truth. I don't have any reason to not believe you, I just don't have any proof.
AbsolutBro
Member
To be fair, in the likely event that the arsonist needs 3 targets, they will likely have already hit the button, as it were.
...?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'll be frank. There's an observation I would like to share, but I feel it would undermine the arso lynch which I think is more important at the moment.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's not about Ouro directly, but it could be.