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WhereAreMahDragonz
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During my 233454534635645th listen of Red, I have decided that Stay, Stay, Stay is a cute bop and I rescind all previous statements about it.
Booty Patrol
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i've decided that BEYONCÉ is the best album a popgirl has ever released and that beyonce is the madonna and janet jackson of our generation
i've decided that BEYONCÉ is the best album a popgirl has ever released and that beyonce is the madonna and janet jackson of our generation
hmmT, I was trying to think of a better popgirl album and I can't
Supermanisdead
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in what world are we comparing REAL actor, jake gyllenhaal with that weirdo jared leto. like f off, leto fans. the absurdity. he isnt even hot.
i've decided that BEYONCÉ is the best album a popgirl has ever released and that beyonce is the madonna and janet jackson of our generation
BEYONCÉ really does feel like a cultural event in a way that a pop album rarely does...even otherwise fantastic albums like Godfessions, Blackout and The Fame Monster don't have what BEYONCÉ has done. It has already infiltrated pop culture...the number of celebrity tweets and instagrams I see now that reference SURFBORDT (the sweatshirt is this seasons must-have item), I been drinkin', I woke up like dis, etc. It has truly capture the popular imagination in a way that must have the lessors seething, pressed and jealous.
I do think that once the dust has settled and the fumes about the speed, extent and viciousness of the wig snatching that Beyoncé performed on the night of 13/12/13 have subsided, and the bald bitches learn to deal, BEYONCÉ will be regarded as a modern classic of pop.
are we sure that's not the graveyard's caretaking collecting the trash?
RobotChant
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stole is a nice way of saying cleaned up.
Lessors are said to have found inspiration for their careers and maybe they even got pregnant surfbordting.
i'm fucking SCREAMING
this mashup is better than the original song:
LADY GAGA VS POKEMON THEME - APPLAUSE
[edit] i'm not even being shady here...it's actually a really great example of how a great backing track can bring something more to a melody...the only bit that's worse is the pre-chorus
this mashup is better than the original song:
LADY GAGA VS POKEMON THEME - APPLAUSE
[edit] i'm not even being shady here...it's actually a really great example of how a great backing track can bring something more to a melody...the only bit that's worse is the pre-chorus
Supermanisdead
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lmao, serving jesse from team rocket vocals tbh.
wait, the chorus is going in.
omg this is amazing.
wait, the chorus is going in.
omg this is amazing.
Crumpet Trumpet
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I don't use Justin Timberlake that much but you could even imagine if he managed to pull a BEYONCE instead of doing all that 20/20 payola promo? If the long-awaited FS/LS followup just randomly appeared on iTunes when thirst for him was at its peak?
Matt_
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I don't use Justin Timberlake that much but you could even imagine if he managed to pull a BEYONCE instead of doing all that 20/20payolapromo? If the long-awaited FS/LS followup just randomly appeared on iTunes when thirst for him was at its peak?
Heh, I asked the same question a couple of weeks back
He would have easily of clocked 1.5m
AyaisMUsikWhore
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But where are the lies? Beyoncé impact is undeniable. The rest of the world can stay hairless.
OMG! That Pokemon Applause mash up is fire!! Dead at the vocals going all out at the end LMAO!
Poker Face
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the applause/pokemon mashup is AMAZING
This is great, thanks for sharing.
I don't think BEYONCE will be a timeless album, because the songs themselves aren't infectious enough.
I mean, yeah, people are saying "Surfboart!" now, but people were also saying "Shine Bright!" last year, and "Shake your laffy taffy!" a few years before that. It's easier now than ever to sloganize something; that alone isn't an indication of cultural longevity. I think that if the music on BEYONCE were going to achieve any sort of cultural significance, we'd see those having significance chart performance like 21 and even Emancipation of Mimi (which were chart BEASTS) tracks did. But BEYONCE tracks are not charting much better than any other typical hit single would.
As it is, people bought the album en masse because the world fell for Beysatan's gimmick release strategy (which is really the only thing this album will truly be remembered for). But the popularity of the music itself really only exists within the microcosm of ATRL/ONTD/Blogosphere/Pop Music Standom. And even most of those people are cognizant enough now to realize that, had Beyonce released this album in a standard way, nobody would really care because the album itself is boring and devoid of catchy hits, despite being surprisingly well-assembled.
That's the tea.
I mean, yeah, people are saying "Surfboart!" now, but people were also saying "Shine Bright!" last year, and "Shake your laffy taffy!" a few years before that. It's easier now than ever to sloganize something; that alone isn't an indication of cultural longevity. I think that if the music on BEYONCE were going to achieve any sort of cultural significance, we'd see those having significance chart performance like 21 and even Emancipation of Mimi (which were chart BEASTS) tracks did. But BEYONCE tracks are not charting much better than any other typical hit single would.
As it is, people bought the album en masse because the world fell for Beysatan's gimmick release strategy (which is really the only thing this album will truly be remembered for). But the popularity of the music itself really only exists within the microcosm of ATRL/ONTD/Blogosphere/Pop Music Standom. And even most of those people are cognizant enough now to realize that, had Beyonce released this album in a standard way, nobody would really care because the album itself is boring and devoid of catchy hits, despite being surprisingly well-assembled.
That's the tea.
Leona Lewis
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no lie rly
It's a lot like Magna Carta Holy Grail - lots of noise, but little impact.
Not to say it isn't the best album I've heard in a long time, but I'm assessing its cultural significance separately from its (inestimable) quality. And literally not a single soul between the ages of 5 and 95 (to channel Iwata) is still talking about the album.
And Partition still isn't on Spotify. fail mess
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Drag the delusions !
People give this album too much credit. There are catchy tunes here or there, but when your fave constantly puts out hits, you have a better ear for songs that have cultural influence or impact, and BEYONCE has none. Drunk in Love is big now, because it's smashing on the radio (but not iTunes, poor mess just got certified plat after three months), but will it be what she's remembered for, or will she have ushered in a new era of music by releasing it? Nah.
Impact is when you release a song and the whole industry takes notice and starts to morph around that sound. As much as you guys hate on the Queen, Rihanna, WFL was a song that had IMPACT. It ushered in a whole era of copycat singers and singles trying to emulate the sound that Calvin and Rihanna so eloquently put together in her single. The dance-pop era is long dead now (See: ARTPOP sales), but when you think of that era and the song that best encapsulates it, you think of WFL. Not because it's the most successful, but because so many songs derived their sound from it. Nevermind it having the impact to launch a career of a relative nobody into success.
As it stands, DriL is a great song to listen to for the time being.
This really is the best way to put it.
And this, in a nutshell.
BEYONCE's not really a trend-setting album (outside of its release). It makes a production of embracing pretty much every Urban/Pop trend of the moment, and as such it's not really an album that's going to change the sound of Pop in the same way Rihanna does seemingly without even trying. It's an album very "of its time."
But this isn't really a diss of Beyonce, because in my mind she's never really been a trend-setting artist. She's just not musical enough...or culturally in-tune...or forward-thinking...or smart. Beyonce's strength, to me, has always been in observing the Pop music scene, and then swooping in like a lacefronted vulture to pick at the carcasses of the most relevant trends, then lacquering them with a thick coating of polish and voluptuous diva antics. This is why pretty much EVERYTHING she does can be traced back to a youtube video. She's not the diva you look to for something new; she's the diva you look to for the old done really well. This is why her "experimental" album (4) is such a pile of shit, and why B'Day is her best album. BEYONCE trends closer to B'Day than 4, which is a good thing - it's just held back by Beyonce taking herself way too seriously these days.
Or maybe someone could be known, for you know, quality? Madonna surely didnt have the slew of hits that Rihanna had, but there is a reason she is so respected. Your argument could apply towards Katy too, who is getting even more hits than Rihanna since 2011.
Madonna has 8 Grammy Awards
Rihanna has 7 Grammy Awards.
Katy Perry has 0 Grammy Awards
Bebé, fuck outta here with that "quality" bullshit.
Booty Patrol
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It's easy to have impact when you latch onto easily digestible sounds. Never has Rihanna changed the pop landscape in a way that didn't seem like a natural progression given how things were before. WFL smashed and people copied her? Wow. Let's praise Katy Perry's iconic impact for spawning Domino and American Girl. Legend, imo.
So easy to have impact yet Beyonce has none. The self-clock
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Like everyone before her?
Don't act coy.
Every pop star from every generation is guilty of using "digestible sounds", whatever that means.
You Know Nothing
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Booty Patrol
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I entice I supply what your girlfriend can't provide
that right grip twat, I got that slip n slide
that right grip twat, I got that slip n slide
He fave'd it.
Ew.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Yes Beyonce had a great album but let's put things into perspective.
K? Bye.
I love you Touch but guess what? Mariah has all that and doesn't sit on it while she continues to make a fool out of herself with flop ass songs and albums. She needs to sit and be a LEGEND. Throw out a single here and there but as her SINGLE artist years she was undeniably powerful. While Bey was Destiny Child, she never had the opportunity to until now. So there really isn't any comparison. Madonna is who you should really be comparing it too.
He fave'd it.
I'm super PRESSED right now... Not her V getting what my V can only dream about. Fuck her lol.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Sis, Diplo is a sleaze. Love yourself.
You know what. After seeing what he was working with... Uhhhuhhh no.. He can keep that. I hope she liked it and I will hard break to the left and pass. Hells..... No.
<+)O Robido O(+>
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Did you see his "accidental" tweet last year? Pity her, tbh.
You Know Nothing
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Sis, Diplo is a sleaze. Love yourself.
She don't love herself.
And neither do I because I still would.
WAIT.
I TAKE IT BACK.
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