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Alcibiades said:
yeah well I think both are important, especially depending on the circumstance.

Plus, Sheakespeare was both a businessman and artist, Spielberg is both, it's not really clear-cut now or anywhere in Western society...

do they mean poor starving artists that don't have art that appeals to mainstream audiences?

both are important, I needed an option that said "depends"
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If you think both are important you should have said you disagree. Saying you disagree doesnt mean you think that businessmen are less important than artists, just that businessmen are not more important than artists.
 
Alcibiades said:
yeah well I think both are important, especially depending on the circumstance.

Plus, Sheakespeare was both a businessman and artist, Spielberg is both, it's not really clear-cut now or anywhere in Western society...

do they mean poor starving artists that don't have art that appeals to mainstream audiences?

both are important, I needed an option that said "depends"
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Well, the easy answer to that question, at least as far as society at large is concerned, is to look at wages. From doing that you can clearly see that bussinesman is more important than the artist. Though the distinction between the two can blur sometimes, there are far more pure bussinesmen making tons of money than bussinesmen/artist hybrids.
 
Well this is pretty interesting!! I thought I read somewhere that a majority of society is really left-leaning...

Anyway...
Economic Left/Right: -6:13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33


Nelson fo lyfe!
 
Caveat: The following values are from the perspective of this test and my giving basically binary answers taking the questions at face value without any chance to elaborate or state why.

Economic: -5.38
Social: -5.54
 
Alcibiades said:
yeah well I think both are important, especially depending on the circumstance.
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Basically that question is trying to find how much importance you place on money/markets versus less definitive things like culture.

And I think it sucks.

Hitokage said:
Caveat: The following values are from the perspective of this test and my giving basically binary answers taking the questions at face value without any chance to elaborate or state why.
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Nobody is here to judge you, Hitokage. I believe we are all in the same boat. ;)
 
Drinky Crow said:
Here's a visual assist to help those trying to interpret itschris' keen-ass chart:

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Doug that is funny as hell.... thanks alot! :lol :lol
 
I agree that these questions seem awfully relativist and skewed a bit left. The skewing doesn't bother me, but clearer, more absolute questions would be nice. That said:

Economic Left/Right: 0.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82

Put me in that Hitler quadrant. :D I was sure I'd be a bit farther away from that center. Damned art and sex questions pulled me back, though. Boy is it lonely here.
 
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WTF???? Are you calling Keynes, the man who saved America from the socialism that plagues Europe, a Randite?
 
I did the test again, this time being honest; I out-che'd che!


Economic left/right: -14.8
Social libertarian/authoritarian: -16.3



........ ;)


I just wanted to fit in... :(

:D
 
NLB2 said:
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WTF???? Are you calling Keynes, the man who saved America from the socialism that plagues Europe, a Randite?
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WTF? Socialism hasn't "plagued" Europe. Sweden, the most socialist country in Europe, actually has a higher GDP than other, more westernized Euro countries like England, France, etc. If anything, America could learn from Sweden's example, but of course we'd never give into socialism just like that...;)
 
kablooey said:
WTF? Socialism hasn't "plagued" Europe. Sweden, the most socialist country in Europe, actually has a higher GDP than other, more westernized Euro countries like England, France, etc. If anything, America could learn from Sweden's example, but of course we'd never give into socialism just like that...;)
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I think this says it all:
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:lol :lol :lol
 
kablooey said:
WTF? Socialism hasn't "plagued" Europe. Sweden, the most socialist country in Europe, actually has a higher GDP than other, more westernized Euro countries like England, France, etc. If anything, America could learn from Sweden's example, but of course we'd never give into socialism just like that...;)
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They also have a relatively homogeneous population of only ~9.5 million as compared to a more heterogeneous ~62 million in Britain and France. Just a hunch, but it might not be strictly the fact that they're "more socialist" that accounts for their greater GDP (by that calculus, one could just as easily say that America has the highest GDP in the world solely due to the fact that it is the "least socialist" of the western nations; obviously either statement glosses over some very important distinctions). In other words, you'd have to control for a ton of variables to make that assertion; obviously, though, the statement that socialism has "plagued" Europe is equally untenable for precisely the same reasons. Philosophically, arguments can be made either way, but practically, one must look at the evidence presented by professionals.


(Did you mean "per capita" GDP, btw? 'Cuz I have a hard time believing that Sweden has a greater overall GDP than Britain...)
 
Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51

ANARCHY.

me and the dalai lama are tight.
 
Fresh Prince said:
Do you hate me? I don't see myself on the graph ;_;
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Heh, sorry. Your name was in there, but I forgot to enter your numbers.

Okay, last one for today (missed the last few people while I made it again):

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Large version here.
 
This test is not valid at all. The questions are obviously written in a negative manner towards right leaning answers, and thus your tendency as a positive person would be to answer in the positive manner (which according to this would be left). It also tries very hard to equate morals and sex with religion, which does not really apply to people of other cultures. Nor does it really apply to the non-religious who have moral ideals about sex.

What is most telling are the links about the "extreme right" at the bottom of the results page. No links about the "extreme left" that I see.

Anyways-

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.46
 
What is most telling are the links about the "extreme right" at the bottom of the results page. No links about the "extreme left" that I see.
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And if you had actually followed that link you would have known what you were talking about. Amazing!

Seriously though, I agree that there are problems with the test. Claiming a two dimensional spectrum is inadequate yet repidgeonholing "right" and "left" into yet another two dimensional spectrum being one of them.
 
-jinx- said:
That chart is incredibly useful. All the posters I can't understand are outliers.
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Anyone want to identify the actual outliers in this set? I'm way too lazy, and refuse to post damning evidence against myself.
 
Economic Left/Right: -3.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

I think not allowing people with hereditary mental disabilities to not have kids hurt me, but to be honest.

1. Its not fair on the Children
2. Its not fair on the tax payers

Basically the biological instincts of someone with downer syndrome are much more basic as a healthy human. For people with such disabilities the desire to reproduce is much greater then a normal human and they are sick people in the world out there willing to make it happen.
 
Hitokage said:
And if you had actually followed that link you would have known what you were talking about. Amazing!
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Wow.. this crow tastes quite nice. You are right. That link is quite terrible evidence for my point. Yikes, I feel dumb on that one.

However, the lack of a neutral answer makes the quiz pretty much invalid. Questions like are businessmen and corporations more important than artists and writers should allow for a neutral response. As should questions linking sex, conservatism, and religion.

That being said, it was nice for the entertainment value.
 
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