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Hitokage said:
Caveat: The following values are from the perspective of this test and my giving basically binary answers taking the questions at face value without any chance to elaborate or state why.

Economic: -5.38
Social: -5.54
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Are you upset that there's not a quadrant on itschris's graph for "Pure Scientist", or are you just afraid that you're not leftist enough for the board. ;) :P They're coming for you, Hito! :D


Hammy said:
*snickers* ... Loki....
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:D

Nah, I'm pretty sure that -jinx- understands me for the most part-- after all, he's not dumb or anything. ;) :P


Btw, how am I an "outlier" at -4.0, 0.0, but you're not at -1.6 and -3.95, especially given the average of the board. ;) :D Actually, the last time I took this test, I think I got around a -1.1 and +0.1 or something like that. I think simple shifts from "agree" to "strongly agree", or vice versa-- which can really change at any given moment, especially given the ambiguous nature of many of the questions-- can skew the results a lot, considering the disparity between my two scores.


Hey, at least I'm not an "Orwellian Nightmare" (that phrase had me laughing out loud, actually). :lol

dothemario said:
I think not allowing people with hereditary mental disabilities to not have kids hurt me, but to be honest
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Yeah, that one was tough for me also (I think the question was actually "serious hereditary diseases"; things like Huntington's Chorea and Down's sprang to mind first for me), but I ended up putting "agree" because I didn't think it was fair to knowingly subject a child to certain inevitable conditions.
 
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

We should rename this place Democratic Underground or something :lol
 
How the chart breaks down in terms of YOU, which is what matters to us GOOD MURRICANS:

Upper left: UPTIGHT DO-GOODERS (aka churchies and libarts professors). They judge you and they wanna help you.

Lower left: NICE GUYS (aka suckers). The don't judge you, but they wanna help you.

Upper right: FUCKFACES (aka fuckfaces). They judge you, but don't wanna help you.

Lower right: POOR SAD BASTARDS (aka loners and terminal geeks). They won't judge you, and they won't help you.
 
Loki said:
Yeah, that one was tough for me also (I think the question was actually "serious hereditary diseases"; things like Huntington's Chorea and Down's sprang to mind first for me), but I ended up putting "agree" because I didn't think it was fair to knowingly subject a child to certain inevitable conditions.
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If itÂ’s just something like bad skin, needs glasses to compensate for bad vision then of course they should be allowed to reproduce we are not breeding a race to Aryans. I took the question to be serious conditions.
 
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15

I consider myself to the right economically. This test likes to ask "aren't corporations evil?" more than "isn't the government too big?", though.
 
Do The Mario said:
If itÂ’s just something like bad skin, needs glasses to compensate for bad vision then of course they should be allowed to reproduce we are not breeding a race to Aryans. I took the question to be serious conditions.
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Yeah, duh. Obviously. :D I was just agreeing with you and stating that that one was heart-rending for me also. :)


Drinky Crow said:
Upper right: FUCKFACES (aka fuckfaces). They judge you, but don't wanna help you.

Lower right: POOR SAD BASTARDS (aka loners and terminal geeks). They won't judge you, and they won't help you.
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:lol
 
Drinky Crow said:
How the chart breaks down in terms of YOU, which is what matters to us GOOD MURRICANS:

Upper left: UPTIGHT DO-GOODERS (aka churchies and libarts professors). They judge you and they wanna help you.

Lower left: NICE GUYS (aka suckers). The don't judge you, but they wanna help you.

Upper right: FUCKFACES (aka fuckfaces). They judge you, but don't wanna help you.

Lower right: POOR SAD BASTARDS (aka loners and terminal geeks). They won't judge you, and they won't help you.
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I liked "NICE GUYS (open wallets)" better before the edit. :( I was gonna mention that it's the "NICE GUYS" who are usually too poor to help anyone anyway. "FUCKFACES" on the other hand, well, "Lower taxes for the rich! And fuck you bum, get a goddamn job!". :D
 
Manabanana said:
Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

Haha, take THAT Gandhi!
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Finally, someone close to me -- I'm more economic liberal than you, but you've got me on the social aspect. Cheers!

NLB2 said:
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WTF???? Are you calling Keynes, the man who saved America from the socialism that plagues Europe, a Randite?
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John Keynes did some good things with American capitalism, saw its major flaws and fixed them with what? Government regulation. Capitalism needs to be regulated, simple. Honestly, our system needs to be regulated more, it's not perfect. Are we the most wealthy? Sure. But that shouldn't determine anything -- we have HUGE disparity of wealthy gaps. It's a problem because we are among the most capitalistic nations today.
 
missAran said:
What's the Nintendo theory?
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Nintendo fans=conservatives

hmmm Olimario has not posted yet...

=lockii]We should rename this place Democratic Underground or something
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hmmm ...I wonder how they would look on this graph. Don't have enough posts to start a new thread though.
 
Hammy said:
Nintendo fans=conservatives

hmmm Olimario has not posted yet...
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I'm a big Nintendo support and I'm the most liberal (economically) on here.

On the contrary, supporters of big business conglomeration, neocons, should be the supporters of Sony and Microsoft. Granted, Nintendo used to be the biggest player, but it isn't anymore.

Anyway, if someone could modify that chart to reflect the system-preference of each user, I'd be very interested to see the results.
 
missAran said:
Anyway, if someone could modify that chart to reflect the system-preference of each user, I'd be very interested to see the results.
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Considering that there are few people who show no brand loyalty, marking the chart in such a fashion leaves out those few of us who are happy using multiple systems and have no preference one way or another.
 
The graph is up to 98 people now. Tomorrow, I'll add any more people that add to the thread and upload the updated version (assuming the thread isn't dead by then :P).

Here's a quick preview until then:

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Raoul Duke said:
Well, this should shock no one.

Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
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Well done, friend. The situation's grave.

I didn't vote for Nader, honestly. But I considered hitting the "I choose not the vote" button. Call me a sell out.
 
itschris said:
Heh, sorry. Your name was in there, but I forgot to enter your numbers.

Okay, last one for today (missed the last few people while I made it again):

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Large version here.
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Thanks for that itschris :)

Hammy said:
Fresh Prince: Hey! We're twins.
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I'm cool with the little group we have atleast we didn't end up on top of each other like the liberal orgy over there :lol

The problem I see with it is that it's fairely vague I think they should of given particular scenarios as well instead of 'Do you believe in allowing people with hereditary mental disabilities to reproduce'- yes or no.
 
Ha! Look at me out there, like a frothing madman. I wonder what Marx himself would have scored on the test, or Fidel and Che...
 
Fresh Prince said:
The problem I see with it is that it's fairely vague I think they should of given particular scenarios as well instead of 'Do you believe in allowing people with hereditary mental disabilities to reproduce'- yes or no.
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exactly, along with "are bussenemen and manufacturers more important than artists or writers?", i mean the issues are clearly not that black and white...
 
Fresh Prince said:
The problem I see with it is that it's fairely vague I think they should of given particular scenarios as well instead of 'Do you believe in allowing people with hereditary mental disabilities to reproduce'- yes or no.
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Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted ! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it's important to realise that this isn't a survey, and these aren't questions. They're propositions - an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That's how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.

Some of the propositions are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger buzzwords in the mind of the user, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.
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I was a little eh with those questions too, but they didn't require too much thinking. Like with the businesspeople/artist question... it's pretty obvious that business people are more important. :D OK, I don't like to write, and I slept through art history. A little bias helps with these questions.
 
Should of read that bit- I can understand their reasoning now.
Still a person doesn't form an opinion just on the headline from a newspaper.
 
Hitokage said:
Seriously though, I agree that there are problems with the test. Claiming a two dimensional spectrum is inadequate yet repidgeonholing "right" and "left" into yet another two dimensional spectrum being one of them.
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Well, yeah, that's because all these sorts of 2-dimensional spectrum theories are basically libertarian recruiting tools ;)

But since I wanted on the chart, I bit anyway :P

Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62
 
Hmm... looking at the graph it's interesting to see that the distribution of political leanings on GAF fits a positively-sloped line pretty well. The most libertarian posters tend to the furthest left economically. Of the few posters that don't fall into that quadrant, most of them are in quadrant I.

....not that GAF is really a unbiased sample, but this kind of takes the wind out of the site's sails that economic and social attitudes are uncorrelated ;)
 
missAran said:
John Keynes did some good things with American capitalism, saw its major flaws and fixed them with what? Government regulation. Capitalism needs to be regulated, simple.
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Yeah, I'm aware of this. That's why I was only +2 on the economic slider chart.
 
Well, according to the seemingly error-prone quiz...

Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

My main quibble is that I think the folks composing the quiz more narrowly define "agree" and "strongly agree" than we do. I mean, if the Pope ranks as high on the authoritarian side as they claim, I should be higher than -0.31!
 
Greenpanda said:
....not that GAF is really a unbiased sample, but this kind of takes the wind out of the site's sails that economic and social attitudes are uncorrelated ;)
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I think that we would need more data to determine that :D
 
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
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ANYHAWK?!! huh... hey.

so what famous political figure am i closest to?
 
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

Meh, not a great test but whatever. Happily obliged to be a statistic.
 
Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.15
 
Those rankings are all well and good but there are plenty of people on the left who arenÂ’t there in any political threads. I see a few people that are more right wing on social issues but firmly planted on the left on that chart.
 
So wait a minute. Ghandi was libertarian, and People like Hussein and Arafat were Authoritarian/left, and Bush/Blair were Authoritarian/right? What does that mean?
 
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74


Which is about right I think. Also since most are in that section of the chart, who in the fuck voted for Bush. Seems idiotic to vote against your best interests.
 
So wtf. I thought Liberals were considered socialists? And what is Authoritarian/left? The state more important than the individual?
 
Greenpanda said:
Hmm... looking at the graph it's interesting to see that the distribution of political leanings on GAF fits a positively-sloped line pretty well. The most libertarian posters tend to the furthest left economically. Of the few posters that don't fall into that quadrant, most of them are in quadrant I.
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Which is a bit inconsistent by my reckoning. That is, it's basically saying "fewer restrictions on people, more restrictions in the economic sphere", both of which are perfectly justifiable in their own right, and perhaps even together given the proper personal philosophy; when you're extremely out there, however, like say -8, -8 or more-- or +8, + 8 for that matter, to take the other polar example (which we're in no danger of seeing on this board :P)-- I tend to think that something's awry. ;) :P
 
So if Hitler didn't go after other races that he hated and slaughtered millions of people, then he could've been a good guy, since he supported keynesian.
 
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