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'Galactic Federation' of Aliens Are in Contact With US and Israeli Governments, Claims Former Official

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Assuming FTL travel is how they travel.....

They could be thousands if not millions of years more advanced than our civilization

If i took a cell phone back a 100 years, they would think its magic

Our concept of space and time, could be completely wrong, due to relativity. Perhaps their tech completely by-passes that?

Fuck knows
When I say ftl travel, this includes a number of concepts. Something like Star Trek's "subspace" would still count as ftl travel in my view. I do not quite understand how relativity comes into play here though. Granted, I am not a physicist, but from my understanding of the theory of relativity, distances and time are relative to speed and the maximum speed possible is lightspeed. So if I am not misunderstanding something, the theory of relativity is an obstacle, if anything, for ftl travel.
 

INC

Member
When I say ftl travel, this includes a number of concepts. Something like Star Trek's "subspace" would still count as ftl travel in my view. I do not quite understand how relativity comes into play here though. Granted, I am not a physicist, but from my understanding of the theory of relativity, distances and time are relative to speed and the maximum speed possible is lightspeed. So if I am not misunderstanding something, the theory of relativity is an obstacle, if anything, for ftl travel.

The reason is acceleration. Humans are fairly puny creatures, and we can’t stand much acceleration. Impose much more than 1 g of acceleration onto a human for an extended period of time, and we will experience all kinds of health problems. (Impose more than 10 g and these health problems will include immediate unconsciousness and a rapid death.)

And to travel anywhere significant, we need to accelerate up to your travel speed, and then decelerate again at the other end. If we’re limited to — say — 1.5 g for extended periods, then this gives us a bit of a problem. Everyone’s going to die before we get there. Better to send robots, or at least something tougher than us delicate organic bags of water.

(Not my words)

Perhaps they're not using our concept of travelling at all, perhaps they're just phasing in-between dimensions, and not technically travelling at speed at all

I'm also a noob to all this physics shit. But phasing could be why some people think these objects are accelerating instantly, whe infact they're not speeding off at all, more just phasing in and out

So again, our concept of space travel is based on our current knowledge, which is gravity and time.



Its all science fiction
 
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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I think you have this impression because of propaganda. Whoever gives up tribalism is a fool, and will lose to those who still have it. Look at Europe if you don't believe me.

There's in fact nothing wrong with tribalism so it's not something one "overcomes" with advancement. I'm not saying we should kill everyone else but we should absolutely compete with each other or at the very least see each other as distinct neighbors, because the second one "tribe" stops being tribal, it gets ripped to shreds by the others.

"United" has positive connotations but it's semantical sleight of hand (not from you, but the authors of the propaganda) to pretend that automatically translates to United Earth being some kind of ideal. "Division" is also now a bad word. "OMG you're so divisive." But these are just semantical games that have no bearing on reality. There is no principle that uniting things is always good and dividing things is always bad.

Any aliens who mastered space travel are very unlikely to have "overcome tribalism" when tribalism confers an overwhelmingly significant survival advantage and had they given it up, they'd have likely been eradicated long ago by a group that didn't give it up. If anyone unites their planet and goes out into space, it'll be the most tribal group of all.



Cows already eat insects and it's debated whether they do it on purpose or not, but either way if they were huge they'd absolutely harm us without even thinking about it. And you're thinking of domesticated cows; wild animals are significantly more aggressive.

It has nothing to do with propaganda. It's my own personal views which I have developed from years of studying politics, history and philosophy.

Having a tribal nature does hold us back. As a species, we really distrust each other and form our own groups (tribes if you will) that divide us. From divisions in nationality, to further divisions based on race, gender and religion. These divisions and tribes that we put ourselves into make us distrust each other and, as we can tell from history, this leads to competition and ultimately conflict.

War and nationalism is something I've struggled with for a while, especially nationalism. I've been at conflict with myself on the very idea of nationalism and being a British patriot. I am a Tory voter, so I should be very pro British, but over time I have started to wonder why that is. Why do I need to be so in love with the UK and be proud to be British?

Yes, the British have given the world a lot. There is a lot to be proud of, but is pride the right word? Why should I be proud to be British? I never chose to be British. It was the result of geographical fluke of being born to British parents. I had no control in being born in these lands. I'm happy to be British I guess as there are worse nations to be born into, but proud? Not any more as it doesn't make sense to be proud of something I had no control over.

Be a patriot and loving your home country is something you are taught, rather than something you are born with. We're taught to love our home nation. Taught to distrust other rival nations. Taught to love the spec of land that we were born into, but does it need to be this way? Surly we can overcome these tribal feelings in the future.

What is a nation anyway? A group of people who are united by race? United by culture? A land mass decided by an arbitrary line drawn on a map decided by very few powerful people? It's not something that has always been, thus it must be something we can move away from.

All nations and cultures come and go throughout history. No nation, culture or traditions last forever, so why try and keep hold of a concept that we know will never last and leads to war?

How much does the human race pump into defenses against each other? Is it almost 2 trillion dollars overall? That's a lot of money and resources to defend ourselves against each other. Imagine, for one moment, that we got rid of our distrust of each other and used even half of those resources we spend on defense and placed it on a unified scientific research and medical advancements. How far would that take us? Would it kick start a new scientific golden age where we combine all our wealth and resources?

It's worth thinking about and discussing. When I look at a future humanity that are traveling the stars, I certainly don't see that a humanity that is still divided by nationality. How could it be if earth is no longer our only home.

However, I'm well aware that this idea is an impossibility in 2020 or even the near future. Although, it is a fun thought experiment.

As for cows, well they are herbivores. Their diet is grass. They don't have the teeth or biological ability to live on a meat diet. Eating the odd bug is one thing, but I've never seen a cow eat a mouse or chicken.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
When I say ftl travel, this includes a number of concepts. Something like Star Trek's "subspace" would still count as ftl travel in my view. I do not quite understand how relativity comes into play here though. Granted, I am not a physicist, but from my understanding of the theory of relativity, distances and time are relative to speed and the maximum speed possible is lightspeed. So if I am not misunderstanding something, the theory of relativity is an obstacle, if anything, for ftl travel.

FTL travel is not technically impossible, although it is well beyond our current tech. It also wouldn't break the laws of physics. Rather than me trying to explain type it out, check out this. If a Alien race is capable of traveling light years, then they are most likely warping space rather than actually traveling at FTL speeds.

 
Galactic Federation was like


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Nymphae

Banned
lol yeah ok

they wished to prevent mass hysteria since they felt humanity needed to "evolve and reach a stage where we will... understand what space and spaceships are," Yediot Aharonot reported.

Riiiight
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
I place people who want aliens to rule us next to people who want the government to rule us or an “advanced ai” to make all our decisions for us. Enemies of humanity. Traitors.

Only problem with humanity is that it always has anti human cucks willing to lie down at the first sign of resistance.
 
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Sounds like pure bullshit.

It's hard to believe if there were aliens, I highly doubt they'd leave us alone.

It'd really be akin to the explorers reaching the new world and slaughtering the natives for resources, just my opinion.

A lot of this wishful thinking "they're more advanced and more benevolent than us" is just human projection.

If they're like every other animal we know of, they're either hunters or prey. My bet is they're hunters.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Sounds like pure bullshit.

It's hard to believe if there were aliens, I highly doubt they'd leave us alone.

It'd really be akin to the explorers reaching the new world and slaughtering the natives for resources, just my opinion.

A lot of this wishful thinking "they're more advanced and more benevolent than us" is just human projection.

If they're like every other animal we know of, they're either hunters or prey. My bet is they're hunters.

If their planet had a similar evolution path to ours, then they would be the apex predators on their home world. They would need to be.

However, placing them as a violent race who are out to conquer us is actually human projection because it's what we've always done as a species until very recently. They may have evolved into a civilization that respects all forms of life and wants to help life develop in the galaxy. Alternatively they could also have zero fucks to give and see us a virus that needs to be wiped out. Who knows.

Going back to the original point, their evolutionary path coould have been vastly different to our own. For example, rather than eating food and hunting prey, they may obtain their energy via different methods, such as photosynthesis for example.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Sounds like pure bullshit.

It's hard to believe if there were aliens, I highly doubt they'd leave us alone.

It'd really be akin to the explorers reaching the new world and slaughtering the natives for resources, just my opinion.

A lot of this wishful thinking "they're more advanced and more benevolent than us" is just human projection.

If they're like every other animal we know of, they're either hunters or prey. My bet is they're hunters.

This

This bring me the bad memories of Independence Day movie

For most people thats prob just another popcorn alien movie

But for me it really does bring a real sense of nightmare

The alien invasion portrayal in that movie was the scariest and posibly most realistic in my opinion

If theres really a high tech alien invading the earth believe it will look pretty close to that movie
 
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GeorgPrime

Banned
IGN - "According to former Israel space security chief Haim Eshed, the United States and Israeli governments have been and are in contact with a "Galactic Federation" of aliens. ".

"They told us that we have to turn our Society in Woke Warriors before we can meet in private..... we are almost there i guess"

We will send the "Twitch Deer Guy" as an ambassador and iam sure we will get his head back,
 
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Ornlu

Banned
Joking aside are you guys really ready for something like this happened in real life



Bro just remember that the aliens run on Macs; we just send them bob and vagene pics that upload a virus when they click on em, then have Randy Quaid fly his fighter jet up into their ship-butts.*

*Please note that causing a city-sized ship to crash directly onto a major population center will probably cause more death and destruction than said ship firing on said center
 

Jtibh

Banned
Aliens looking down on us from above.

Seeing us in masks , lubbed in purell, gloves on......

Look at this shit yoda, these humans cant think for themselfs,they follow everything a handful of nutjobs telling them...how could we ever have a normal conversation with these...
But exxor ,did you see their women? I want some of that human pussy.
Yoda you idiot, didnt you hear they have this new gender fluid or transgender whatever thing going on? Its like a cat in a bag. You dont know what you get till you get to third base and surprise you might get rapped in the ass.

Ok lets get the fuck outta here. These humans are insane.
 

Romulus

Member
I'm wondering if there is some truth to what he says but his old brain is filling in the rest with bullshit.
 

Alebrije

Member
Bet that Galactic Federation is also in contact with China and Rusia and they just tell to each one "you are the only one" there is no one else in my life...
 

Kenpachii

Member
Assuming FTL travel is how they travel.....

They could be thousands if not millions of years more advanced than our civilization

If i took a cell phone back a 100 years, they would think its magic

Our concept of space and time, could be completely wrong, due to relativity. Perhaps their tech completely by-passes that?

Fuck knows

Now imagine 1 billion years more advanced. We would simple not even be a dust particle in there system. Could very well be we are living in a aquarium they created for us as experiment.
 

manfestival

Member
I hate whenever I read the words "humanity is not ready." Bruh, we are never going to be ready. JUST SHOW US THE RECEIPTS! I MEAN ALIENS.
 
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Yoboman

Member
The aliens just want to visit the places associated with their lord and saviour Jesus Christ. USA where he was born and Israel where he died
 

iconmaster

Banned
If a "secret underground base" staffed by Americans already exists on Mars, then why would NASA be publicly talking about manned missions to Mars being infeasible until the 2030s? The extent of the international government conspiracy that would have to be involved here is staggering.

Either everyone else is lying, or this guy is.
 

Romulus

Member
Now imagine 1 billion years more advanced. We would simple not even be a dust particle in there system. Could very well be we are living in a aquarium they created for us as experiment.

You're trying to explain that to people(myself included) who can't fathom what a measly 400 years from now would look like. Teleport back to the 1600s with a cellphone. You could literally show them nothing but pictures and your flashlight and you'd be a god of sorcery to the peasants, then a witch, burned at the stake.
The same reason those people couldn't understand the cellphone, its the same reason most in this thread cannot comprehend anything outside of their 9-5 job. "Must be bullshit. Nothing here but work and bills." The human brain is too frail for that sort of thinking, and exactly the reason nothing will be unveiled without decades of slow drip to prepare our superiority complex. USA #1--go to also Russia #1, every religion is "the chosen" people, every race is the best inside their little circle. Tribal, competitive beings.
 
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cryptoadam

Banned
:pie_thinking:

The jews did this - GIF on Imgur

cryptoadam cryptoadam , EXPLAIN ITT!!!

It is interesting that these Aliens would be talking with Israel and the USA, making deals with them.

Why da Jooose? Why not go to China or Iran or Saudi?

Most likely the Aliens heard how Jews control the banks and all the governments in the world and wanted to talk to who is boss. They probably had a copy of Protocols of the Elder of Zion and were fooled by its forgery as well.
 

Ornlu

Banned
It is interesting that these Aliens would be talking with Israel and the USA, making deals with them.

Why da Jooose? Why not go to China or Iran or Saudi?

Most likely the Aliens heard how Jews control the banks and all the governments in the world and wanted to talk to who is boss. They probably had a copy of Protocols of the Elder of Zion and were fooled by its forgery as well.

Plot twist: The aliens contacted the US and Israel because the aliens are secretly Yakubian overlords, here to steal the Melanin from the rest of the planet. :lollipop_fearful:
 
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