Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement

Wishful thinking.



A sign that you are not thinking critically. You've got it out for "these people". Just few months back, we had two D-politicians murdered in their own home along with their spouses in an act of political violence. While some surely were, you don't have to celebrate their deaths to show clouded judgement. Selective indifference is enough.

My dad went down the youtube rabbit hole with crypto-currency as a gateway. When someone broke into nancy pellosi's home with the apparent intention of killing her with a hammer, I asked him if they should have done that and he said "maybe they should have". The violence may be ideologically driven but it's not as cleanly down political lines as you seem to think.

Right now, many liberals and not just the far left are crossing their fingers for trump to croak of natural causes. Not exactly the most noble wish. But if you remember the celebration of hillary clinton possibly having some rapidly terminal disease, you may see that wishing death on people you hate is universally a base and ugly side of human nature.
Well said and worded. I hate everything you said, not because I disagree necessarily, but because you're absolutely right about people wishing death on others, and it's fucking sick, but hell just the other day I wished it on someone with anger in my heart, and I hate now that I did.

Maybe humans are just heavily flawed creatures, I don't know. I know we can be better though, that's for damn sure. These days we're so goddamn divided, and it'll take a brighter mind than mine to fix that, but I know we can be better.

We don't have to be awful people, and we shouldn't accept how awful we've become. We should expect more out of our fellow man and ourselves.
 
Wishful thinking.



A sign that you are not thinking critically. You've got it out for "these people". Just few months back, we had two D-politicians murdered in their own home along with their spouses in an act of political violence. While some surely were, you don't have to celebrate their deaths to show clouded judgement. Selective indifference is enough.

My dad went down the youtube rabbit hole with crypto-currency as a gateway. When someone broke into nancy pellosi's home with the apparent intention of killing her with a hammer, I asked him if they should have done that and he said "maybe they should have". The violence may be ideologically driven but it's not as cleanly down political lines as you seem to think.

Right now, many liberals and not just the far left are crossing their fingers for trump to croak of natural causes. Not exactly the most noble wish. But if you remember the celebration of hillary clinton possibly having some rapidly terminal disease, you may see that wishing death on people you hate is universally a base and ugly side of human nature.
Fair enough. I'm generalizing.

But as I said in my post, if you think left leaners, moderates and right leaners have the exact same tendencies, where nobody can tell them apart, I highly doubt it.

Even in something like we discuss on gaf regarding games and movies, there's a big trend to left leaning content. And similarly left leaning views on their social media tweets. It's not too often you get really public and loud moderate and hard right views in content and social media.
 

I 100% agree with this sentiment, I couldn't agree anymore than is possible.

James Gunn and Colin Moriarty getting cancelled (and still succeeding) from dumb risque jokes, shouldn't be equalified to championing political assassination, assassination in general.

The right-wing leaders and commentators really shouldn't use and adopt the term; it's a retard term from retard people, the same way they water down everything of meaning to essentially throw potential targets at people they don't like.

Just label it what it is: incitement for terrorism. That's essentially what they are doing.
 
I mean it was brought directly to his attention and within 2 hours they posted statement confirming they are performing internal investigations... and you are going to turn that into a negative because "Microsoft Bad" ?
The guy is trying really hard to find employees from other companies doing the same thing, just to make Sony look less bad lmao
 
A database will go online soon:

"This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.

This is the largest firing operation in history."

Lol….this is crazy work.
 
What are the Result of all these Woke developers? You get Characters like this! If you say you do not like the way the way the characters look you get labeled as a bigot and or a fascist!


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Far left groups glorying public assissinations

Oh no, a woman with a pink mohawk :messenger_face_screaming:
 
let me guess reset era is canceling pre-orders cuz she was fired right?

I bet they would. From day one, there was a power certain cliques had over the staff. It progressed to a sort of authoritarian experience. I self censored heavily, because it was still easy enough to just talk games with smart people. Even if some of them were insane. But eventually, it got to a point where it just didn't feel right to stay in a community like that. My political leaning had nothing to do with it. It was a real big brother vibe at that point and that is no way to live.
 
Well said and worded. I hate everything you said, not because I disagree necessarily, but because you're absolutely right about people wishing death on others, and it's fucking sick, but hell just the other day I wished it on someone with anger in my heart, and I hate now that I did.

Maybe humans are just heavily flawed creatures, I don't know. I know we can be better though, that's for damn sure. These days we're so goddamn divided, and it'll take a brighter mind than mine to fix that, but I know we can be better.

We don't have to be awful people, and we shouldn't accept how awful we've become. We should expect more out of our fellow man and ourselves.
The difference is these people do it in cold blood not in the heat of the moment where you say something you don't mean.

These people under no stress or anger feelings mean every word they say and will double down when questioned.
 
let me guess reset era is canceling pre-orders cuz she was fired right?
Thats a good question.

On one hand they should be buying more copies to support the studio. But then it can be argued gamers should cancel orders to penalize Sony/SP for firing her.

What a laugher.
 
Well said and worded. I hate everything you said, not because I disagree necessarily, but because you're absolutely right about people wishing death on others, and it's fucking sick, but hell just the other day I wished it on someone with anger in my heart, and I hate now that I did.

Maybe humans are just heavily flawed creatures, I don't know. I know we can be better though, that's for damn sure. These days we're so goddamn divided, and it'll take a brighter mind than mine to fix that, but I know we can be better.

We don't have to be awful people, and we shouldn't accept how awful we've become. We should expect more out of our fellow man and ourselves.

Thanks for that. As I was writing that, I was thinking about how I had been doing exactly that lately. It's something I haven't felt for a long time now. But it was like an old friend. I feel so powerless yet guilty in the situation that I can't control myself here and there. Now that I think about it, the last time it happened was closer to 20 years ago and in the same headspace: powerless and guilty.
 
Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.
part of me just doesn't want to buy something made by people who believe the way to "fix things" is literally to murder and assassinate....

I wouldn't buy a game made by ISIS either

Silly me
 
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Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.

Kind of interesting that some aren't understanding that cancel culture in itself was never the problem, but the motivation behind it.

Getting a person fired because they hurt someone's feelings is one thing. Getting a person fired because they celebrated the murder of an innocent man is completely fair game as far as I'm concerned.
 
I bet they would. From day one, there was a power certain cliques had over the staff. It progressed to a sort of authoritarian experience. I self censored heavily, because it was still easy enough to just talk games with smart people. Even if some of them were insane. But eventually, it got to a point where it just didn't feel right to stay in a community like that. My political leaning had nothing to do with it. It was a real big brother vibe at that point and that is no way to live.
I've had to do with people who made me walk on eggshells around them irl and I can tell you that I will never do that again. It's beyond exhausting and makes you very insecure and forces you to second-guess everything. Reddit also gave me strong eggshell vibes in the last couple of years so I'm glad I'm not posting there anymore.
 
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Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.

Yes the people that got cancelled for speaking the truth are upset that someone got murdered for speaking the truth. Shocker!!! The land of make believe people and their pro-murder demons should get everything they deserve.
 
Fair enough. I'm generalizing.

But as I said in my post, if you think left leaners, moderates and right leaners have the exact same tendencies, where nobody can tell them apart, I highly doubt it.

Even in something like we discuss on gaf regarding games and movies, there's a big trend to left leaning content. And similarly left leaning views on their social media tweets. It's not too often you get really public and loud moderate and hard right views in content and social media.

I don't think they are the same. I think there really are neurological differences that give some people an ideological predilection towards authoritarianism or anti. But that doesn't mean a predilection to a political party. (Them sifting out into US politics would be a second-order effect.) Notice how the far ends of each party end with radicalized people who don't often seem to give a shit about policy compared to politics.

By the time someone is so radicalized that they will climb onto a roof with a rifle, their party affiliation is not very important. They are a dangerously maladjusted person one way or the other. Kind of doesn't matter what their noble cause is - nobody with an ounce of sanity would actually go kill someone about it.

But many more of us would privately indulge in the carnage. Thanks to the way social media induces verbal diarrhea, we get to hear it out loud more often. It's normal, though. It's regressive and soul-eating, but normal. And I don't think even an innate broad-ideological leaning could change that.
 
You posted heavily slanted opinions.

I've heard he had discussions with his family about how they all thought Charlie Kirk was hateful/spreading hate - unless this has been debunked?

And where is the factual data that his family was obsessed with guns? Owning a gun, his family being police doesn't just equate they had a bunker of guns. - again where is the data confirmed that what you said is true and not just radical hyperbole to make your claim seem legitimate?
Aside from all the photos of guns, which his mom tried to take down but, the internet being the internet, meant she was too late.

About the gun-themes birthday partues and such.

But hey, let's just ignore that and somehow point accusations at the "left".
 
Holy shit! RetardEra nuked Charlie Kirk thread as soon as the news came out that the killer's partner is a transgender 😬😬😬

EDIT: oops not nuked, they just hid it from public, cowards woke retards, now the world really got to see these demons and their sick, violent ideology. They killed people who don't agree with them
 
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They had another thread about the Ghost of Thing chick getting fired and they closed that. They're afraid, and they fucking well should be considering some of the stuff they've posted.

Both threads were rife with grave dancing and expanded calls for political violence. They are seeing how the wind is blowing in culture about no tolerance on calls for violence. Also they have a lot of industry people on the site soooooo…. Yah celebrating murder ain't a good look.
 
It could be argued that Discord is a competitor to Reddit.
But you guys are arguing we need to moderate that even more for people we dont agree with even if it should be easy to just ignore subreddits and Discord servers you dont want to interact with.


Both Reddit and Discord have become pretty heavily moderated these days.
You cant really moderate every discord server but they are doing their best.(i guess).


If you know where to look theres a few Reddit replacement that are like the old reddit if you remember before reddit got basically site wide moderation there would be NSFW subreddits for police chases that end badly.
Reddit is relatively tame compared to what it used to be.


Replacements exist they just arent as mainstream........yet.


Shut down Reddit and Discord and people will move to the new ones then they will become mainstream and we will be right back where we at right now.


Deplatforming people who have opposing views not directly inciting violence cuz yeah deplatform them, but they just dont feel sorry for Kirk or call him names is also weird.
I'm not part of that group. I don't believe in deplatforming. However, if you are calling for violence, then yes. Incitement of violence is both illegal and reprehensible.

Nothing to do with this conversation but I think that platforms like X should require you to publicly identify yourself and Balkanize the anonymous accounts from the public ones. Kind of how a a newspaper used to separate LTEs and op-eds. I believe we would see the level of discourse be more civilized.

This all stems from the education system in the U.S. and E.U. (I can attest to Latín America too) and the depravity if this generation of parents.
 
Holy shit! RetardEra nuked Charlie Kirk thread as soon as the news came out that the killer's partner is a transgender 😬😬😬

EDIT: oops not nuked, they just hid it from public, cowards woke retards, now the world really got to see these demons and their sick, violent ideology. They killed people who don't agree with them
That makes what? Three incidences involving trans people and shootings?
 
Wishful thinking.



A sign that you are not thinking critically. You've got it out for "these people". Just few months back, we had two D-politicians murdered in their own home along with their spouses in an act of political violence. While some surely were, you don't have to celebrate their deaths to show clouded judgement. Selective indifference is enough.

My dad went down the youtube rabbit hole with crypto-currency as a gateway. When someone broke into nancy pellosi's home with the apparent intention of killing her with a hammer, I asked him if they should have done that and he said "maybe they should have". The violence may be ideologically driven but it's not as cleanly down political lines as you seem to think.

Right now, many liberals and not just the far left are crossing their fingers for trump to croak of natural causes. Not exactly the most noble wish. But if you remember the celebration of hillary clinton possibly having some rapidly terminal disease, you may see that wishing death on people you hate is universally a base and ugly side of human nature.
One of the most logical post in this thread. Zero left or right pandering.
 
Yea so let me get this fucking right, it's ok to cancel comedians for jokes or someone having a different belief...but it's not deserving to cancel someone advocating murder?

"someone having a different belief"

"advocating murder"

These are not the same thing?

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part of me just doesn't want to buy something made by people who believe the way to "fix things" is literally to murder and assassinate....

I wouldn't by a game made by ISIS either

Silly me

Kind of interesting that some aren't understanding that cancel culture in itself was never the problem, but the motivation behind it.

Getting a person fired because they hurt someone's feelings is one thing. Getting a person fired because they celebrated the murder of an innocent man is completely fair game as far as I'm concerned.

Yes the people that got cancelled for speaking the truth are upset that someone got murdered for speaking the truth. Shocker!!! The land of make believe people and their pro-murder demons should get everything they deserve.

Same old lame "gotcha" attempt with no ability to think an inch beneath the surface. Plus, a total revulsion of their own medicine. I'm sure you're all truly shocked.
 
Same old lame "gotcha" attempt with no ability to think an inch beneath the surface. Plus, a total revulsion of their own medicine. I'm sure you're all truly shocked.

We are just done playing nice with delusional and violent people. I don't care if you find it hypocritical. There's no more taking the high road. The far left is beyond help.
 


This is both accurate and sad. I miss when I was a kid, I would go to Toys 'R' Us and look at the wall of game boxes, oh cool a new Mario game I want it for Christmas

Now there is no Toys 'R' Us, no wall of game boxes, and the studios are staffed by insane people

At least we still get new Mario games. Thank God for Nintendo

Will never forget my many trips to that awsome ToysRys in times square ... definitely good times... very sad my children cant experience that
 
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Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.
Or, more accurately, "Cancel culture was fine when it was happening to them. It is terrible and wrong now that it's happening to us."

The folks who created the tactic don't get to complain when the pendulum they built swings around to them. What is it they used to say? Oh, I remember. "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences."
 
Free speech crowd suddenly renounces freedom of speech and embraces cancel culture. Ironic.
I guess is burning flags (only American flags, no alphabet flags) is free speech, you could make the argument that shooting people is free speech as well.

Also, there might be some, but I have never seen anyone saying that direct calls to violence were included in "free speech".
 
Or, more accurately, "Cancel culture was fine when it was happening to them. It is terrible and wrong now that it's happening to us."

The folks who created the tactic don't get to complain when the pendulum they built swings around to them. What is it they used to say? Oh, I remember. "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences."
Yup.

It's been years of this. Only the past 12 months or so have people stood up to cancel culture, DEI, Woke, etc... People arent afraid anymore to do it back and companies are acknowledging that and walking back policies and now firing people. It took a while, but the pendulum is swinging back hard. Probably a lot of that has to do with Trump in charge and he hates this kind of leftie stuff too.

In life, you can be a punching bag taking all the jabs or punch back. It gets to a point you punch back. And there is no way the original guy doing the punching first gets to claim no more punches allowed when he gets hit later.

Sometimes you got to be a man and take a punch in the face back. It's like grade school fights. You can either sit there and be picked on for years or stand up for yourself.

And whats happening now is the right is cancel culturing the left with job losses. And IMO that's an even better way than resorting back to violence because it kills their careers and hopefully improves the corporate culture there so better products are made. So it could be a long term win for consumers with better products too. Getting punched in the face only hurts for 10 minutes. Getting blacklisted in a career might be 10 years. Lesson learned.
 
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Yup.

It's been years of this. Only the past 12 months or so have people stood up to cancel culture, DEI, Woke, etc... People arent afraid anymore to do it back and companies are acknowledging that and walking back policies and now firing people. It took a while, but the pendulum is swinging back hard. Probably a lot of that has to do with Trump in charge and he hates this kind of leftie stuff too.

In life, you can be a punching bag taking all the jabs or punch back. It gets to a point you punch back. And there is no way the original guy doing the punching first gets to claim no more punches allowed when he gets hit later.

Sometimes you got to be a man and take a punch in the face back.
Exactly. Folks are just done with having to tread lightly so they don't upset people who are too emotionally unstable to manage their own feelings. Folks are just over being afraid of them. It's awesome to see some sanity being restored to the world.
 
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