Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement
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splattered
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Uhhhh actually about that, people ARE making posts and videos about who should be next
Her Linked In work experience no longer includes "present".
Example of a current employee at Sucker Punch....
Topher
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Bernardougf
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Thats the problem right ? This words lost all their real meaning and their importance to the left.. it became just like calling someone an idiot ... the problem is when one ludicrous individual take those words seriously and acts
I always found amusing a party that originated from the workers party, and called national-socialist being included in the right of the political spectrum, everytime I see this I just roll my eyes and say "ok" ... for me communism and fascism/nazism are like brothers that hate each other but live in the exact same house with the same father papa Karl.
But thats too political ... lets continue on topic
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Topher
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Bernardougf
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Fuck.. now thats a cancel culture I could support.I liked Avowed as well
Ass of Can Whooping
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I liked Avowed as well
Knowing you have free will keeps me up every night
Topher
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JayK47
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Only 200 death threats? And now only 2? Those are rookie numbers. Grummz is fading into obscurity.
Bernardougf
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Well things are definitely different... even in my contry (brazil) who is hopelessly left dominated people are seeing consequences for supporting this murder on social media... just heard that a neurosurgeon got its us-visa cancelled, lost its job and our medical organization launched an investigation on him.
People.. its not that hard... going to social media or any media to celebrate murder ITS NOT NORMAL. And never will or should be. Once you make this abomination normal the world is truly lost.
People.. its not that hard... going to social media or any media to celebrate murder ITS NOT NORMAL. And never will or should be. Once you make this abomination normal the world is truly lost.
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WellSheet
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I have been watching a lot of videos of right-wing people going after people celebrating his death and getting them fired…
I just love seeing the people trying to pearl clutch saying, essentially, the right wing shouldn't be doing this;
The fuck they shouldn't. It's high time. The left didn't care because they got away with it - and for far less reasonable scenarios.
I agree in everyone's right to not agree or disagree with CK's thoughts and beliefs - sure. But celebrating, grave dancing, calling for more violence…they do it so openly and brazenly because they are so convinced they are morally justified. Sick
I just love seeing the people trying to pearl clutch saying, essentially, the right wing shouldn't be doing this;
The fuck they shouldn't. It's high time. The left didn't care because they got away with it - and for far less reasonable scenarios.
I agree in everyone's right to not agree or disagree with CK's thoughts and beliefs - sure. But celebrating, grave dancing, calling for more violence…they do it so openly and brazenly because they are so convinced they are morally justified. Sick
powder
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I don't think it's triggering, I think it's cringe but totally expected from a fundamentalist Christian weirdo. This guy sucks and is in too many movies.
God is fucking deaf - you're just absolving yourself of the responsibility of learning how to communicate and coexist with the humans around you.
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Northeastmonk
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Infamous and GoT were awesome titles, but not if they support CK's death. I won't give them a cent. They're just like the antisemitic regime after the events of October 7th.
WellSheet
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Mister Wolf
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It's great to see. Fuck retaliating with violence (emotional aggression). You cut off the money (calculated aggression). That always hurts more.
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Trilobit
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I think it's shocking to many with their mindsets that they would lose their jobs "just" for celebrating the assassination of someone who doesn't share their political views. It's so basic in their worldview to express joy over it that it didn't even register as a concern when they started posting online. And now when their reality has shifted they scramble to patch things up. I honestly don't know what to call their line of reasoning.
WellSheet
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Exactly.
They legitimized these tactics. Now let's let the Right, not ever with violence, but with extreme punitive measures like firings, condemnations publicly, etc - shame and push these people to take responsibility.
These leftists have redefined language and tried to control culture for too long.
Giallo Corsa
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Narcism and cowardice
powder
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Saying conservative YouTubers are getting all the critics fired is giving them too much credit. People are getting fired because the companies they work for don't want the stink on them and their reputation. It's about maintaining corporate appearances more than anything, especially in this climate when most companies are groveling to Trump for treats.
Companies do not give a fuck about Charlie Kirk, they give a fuck about keeping their image clean in the eyes of the public. It's business.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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1) Left wing political groups have been at each others throats since the beginning, hell Socialists and Marxists have been waging war on the streets killing each other ever since the Marxists joined the party. This is not somehow proof of Fascists being right wing. Have you seriously never heard or read about the myriad of fights left leaning groups had among each other in practically all countries around the globe for more than a century?
2) Fascist regimes are not "allied" with big business, this is a massive misunderstanding. Both Marxism and Fascism tried to integrate the interests of working people and the bourgeois, the producers of goods, all in relation to the state. They found slightly different answers. While Marxism proposes the abandonment of private property altogether, Fascism allows businesses to operate independent to a certain degree. In Fascism, the most important companies are under strict oversight and control by the state, making sure that they serve the state like everybody else. Fascism doesn't lie in bed with big business, it makes big business it's bitch like Marxism, just by slightly different means.
3) First of all, Italian Fascism was not a racist or even antisemitic ideology. Racism and xenophobia, generally speaking, transcend the camps of left and right. However, from a historical point of view, racism and biologist worldviews have been at home on the left (National Socialism for example), while on the right such views don't really have a structural or philosophical basis and should be seen more like expressions of the time, culture and general development and state of society. In fact, the core pillars of right wing thought - classical Liberalism and Conservatism - hold fundamental values directly opposed to racism.
mcjmetroid
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I think it's less about them celebrating his death and more that they HAVE to tell everyone. They cannot cannot keep this stuff to themselves like a normal person.
Social media has ruined certain people.
Social media has ruined certain people.
Boss Mog
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It's not just about banning him from Twitch. He should spend years behind bars and lose his fortune. Inciting and encouraging violence against elected officials and anybody really should be a very serious crime with very serious consequences.
powder
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This is where I'm at. Social media has just given people a platform to seek attention or virality. Saying the most outlandish shit or oversharing your feelings is just another opportunity to get likes and attention. We gotta learn to say less.
Spukc
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WellSheet
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Sure you can play perspective game with it…
I personally don't care what motivates the proverbial hammer to fall from these companies or businesses decision makers/owners - whether it's because they feel the pressure from the campaign against these people who've acted disgusting about his assassination, or because they found out their employees said disgusting actions due to the campaigns and made the choices based out of their own morals; you don't know and neither do I.
But do a little research, There are plenty of small businesses who aren't "groveling to Trump" letting sick assholes go from their ranks because they have employees on payroll CELEBRATING AND REVELING OPENLY about his death. Your argument that these corps are groveling to Trump for treats is not connected to the full picture, and certainly sounds like a straw man. Cuz orange man bad right?
Again, whether they're doing it for optics without a care for their morals or because the decision maker does truly find it immoral, neither of us know. But, I'm glad it's happening.
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MagusMajul
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It's funny you don't know how to read
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Romulus
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If this happened in 2030, I could see wokies calling for the death of Charlie's family too "make sure they don't reproduce!!"
That's how they're progressing. They've dehumizied conservatives(even moderates).
Granted the extreme right is really bad, but the far left is beyond vile.
The biggest problem I see on the right are leaders like trump not being more balanced and decent. Not lowering the flag half mast when 2 democrat senators were murdered?? Yeah fuck you and I probably don't agree with those senators. That was beyond bullshit and no amount of spin can save it.
That's how they're progressing. They've dehumizied conservatives(even moderates).
Granted the extreme right is really bad, but the far left is beyond vile.
The biggest problem I see on the right are leaders like trump not being more balanced and decent. Not lowering the flag half mast when 2 democrat senators were murdered?? Yeah fuck you and I probably don't agree with those senators. That was beyond bullshit and no amount of spin can save it.
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powder
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It's not about Trump for smaller businesses or even mid-tier businesses but it is about Trump for some of the larger corporations that publicly let people go in response to stuff like this. But bigger picture it's not even about Trump, it IS about public perception whether you think so or not.
Also "orange man bad" is definitely not the case for Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Sundar Pichai, etc…
Why are you glad it's happening, though is what I'd ask. Does it really change anything if people get fired from their jobs for dunking on someone that got killed? Does that really change anything for anyone materially?
When someone universally maligned dies and people tweet "rest in piss" of course it's disrespectful but they're still entitled to say what they want.
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The Fartist
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Is that Colby Covington?naughty dog celebrating at sony studios
powder
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lol well said
1) Contemporary German sources and internal correspondence between the Nazi Party and its allies are clear about their right-wing affiliation. For instance, we have many documents and testimonies describing the negotiations between Papen and Hindenburg to appoint Hitler chancellor as part of a right-wing coalition that he (wrongly) thought would be able to reign him in. Hell, there was plenty of infighting on the German right at the time with multiple competing groups. The fact there were also disagreements between Communists and others on the left doesn't suddenly make the Nazis part of the left-wing spectrum. They didn't consider themselves to be and weren't categorized as such by contemporary Germans either. In fact, Nazi propaganda was vocally against both Marxism and Communism. They also violently purged the few Nazi leaders who had pseudo-left-wing ideas about a "Second Revolution" in 1934.
2) In the context of the politics of 1920s, 1930s and 1940s in Germany, the Nazi Party was allied with big business and most of their members were part of the middle class. If anything, the German working class and the German poor, which leaned left, were comparatively underrepresented within the Nazi movement. At least before they reached power and started first rigging elections and then no longer allowing any. There's a huge difference between getting rid of private property and carrying out collectivization of farms as well as of other means of production versus allowing big business to continue operating both independently as well as carrying out contracted production orders. State intervention in the economy wasn't unusual, even the United States and Great Britain had it during wartime, but that's not Marxist per se. You're severely downplaying different economic policies as well as their respective consequences by saying they're only "slightly different".
3) Again, it's completely ahistorical to categorize the Nazi Party as part of the political left or to pretend that Italian fascism had no racist elements at all, whether domestically or even during its campaign against Ethiopia. Quite the opposite.
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Topher
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Of course they are. And they can continue to say and tweet whatever they want. That doesn't mean it won't come at a cost. Freedom works both ways.
Bernardougf
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No... thats Intergalactic co-protagonist
Kacho
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I posted the tweet in the wrong thread. The one I shared was already posted in here.
Gonzito
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powder
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For sure, especially in the marketplace
powder
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Just playing around
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
StreetsofBeige
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Some people just have no sense of awareness.
It's like someone who has face tattoos, nose rings, a half shaved head and says dumb things.
They wonder why almost no company wants to hire them.
When mom and dad says it's because you look and act like a freak, the kid says…. "Ya but it's a free country. I can look and talk however I want"
It's truly amazing how some people don't understand the combo of perception, image, and actions when doing things in life.
Hey you never know. Maybe that crazy person is actually a good person who doesn't say anything stupid. But too bad. You're going to have a hard time getting a job because there's also tons of other people who can be good people too. Difference is they look and act the part better right from the starting gate.
WellSheet
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Trump was only brought up because you, seemingly unnecessarily, made sure to include him in your first post.
Charlie Kirk isn't and wasn't free from criticism, I have no issue with people disagreeing vocally about his beliefs, ideologies et al. That's what the guy wanted; he welcomed the debate.
It's the fact that you're seemingly leaving out giant amounts of context on WHY it matters that these people are getting fired, and specifically why it matters to me.
It matters in general and to for myself personally because I believe we should have a cultural and societal set of morals - maybe you don't agree, obviously many don't, but many (and I'd wager more than don't) do have the same opinions as I do.
It is completely demonic to have people smear and lie about a man and celebrate his death openly, the same crowd who tried to destroy and cancel someone if they dare to say men and women were not interchangeable.
At the end of the day, my libertarian streak still wins out because I can agree to disagree with you if don't think my perspective is "right". I am not going to sit here and try and convince anyone to my side of the moral argument. I will, just like anyone, be staunch in my mores and values;
read my words very carefully.
openly and vocally celebrating his assassination is sick. It's not moral. There is no gray area. It's not subjective for us as humans ti agree to disagree that it's "okay" to celebrate it.
And I would be sat here saying the same thing, god forbid, if it were a lefty avatar who'd had the same thing perpetrated and the right were justifying it.
In closing, Sure, you or anyone who hated Kirk can openly celebrate it… But, there in lies the moral quandary. If this is an acceptable moral stance because one side has allowed it to be so, because it's their definition of an "enemy"- than god help us.
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purvispisgah
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This is much closer to the mark than normal, for sure.
Fascism is a third position, it's neither of what people mean when they say "left" or "right".
It was literally called "national socialism" in Germany, and yet people simply choose to ignore one of the 2 words in order to make their own strained points.
I just want to say that not everyone following this comes from the US. Take this psychopath for example:
This in Germany would not be legal. You could easily sue him for defaming the memory of the deceased (§189 StGB) since this guy severely insulted and degraged the honor of the deceased by celebrating and mocking their death.
It would also likely be seen as a crime for Approval or Reward of Crimes (§140 StGB). Publicly (which social media falls under) approving a serious crime like murder which may disturb public peace falls under this.
Of course german laws dont hold to the US. But if people like him are publicly shamed and someone seeing this might know where he lives and shares this which then leads to him losing his job, I am all for it. And I don't care if that person works as a teacher, a doctor or in some restaurant. I also dont care if someone on the right is being mocked in this way or if some idiot decided it would be a good idea doing a dancing tiktok addressing the victims of an Earthquake in Turkey.
Some people may cry all they want "you are doing what you complained about years ago", its not the same. I've seen people getting cancelled for following someone "questionable" on Twitter.
This in Germany would not be legal. You could easily sue him for defaming the memory of the deceased (§189 StGB) since this guy severely insulted and degraged the honor of the deceased by celebrating and mocking their death.
It would also likely be seen as a crime for Approval or Reward of Crimes (§140 StGB). Publicly (which social media falls under) approving a serious crime like murder which may disturb public peace falls under this.
Of course german laws dont hold to the US. But if people like him are publicly shamed and someone seeing this might know where he lives and shares this which then leads to him losing his job, I am all for it. And I don't care if that person works as a teacher, a doctor or in some restaurant. I also dont care if someone on the right is being mocked in this way or if some idiot decided it would be a good idea doing a dancing tiktok addressing the victims of an Earthquake in Turkey.
Some people may cry all they want "you are doing what you complained about years ago", its not the same. I've seen people getting cancelled for following someone "questionable" on Twitter.