Game Informer: "Ryse: Son Of Rome Is As Fun As Dialing Phone Numbers" (ouch)

nynt9 said:
The interesting thing to me is that normally previews for AAA games are extremely positive and the negatives come out only during the reviews, which always causes buyer's remorse for preorderers. This is one of the very few times I've seen a big outlet like GI be extremely critical of a very high profile AAA game in a preview. That's thread worthy to me.
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given the narrative this year I'm not at all surprised. xb has taken a good bashing and the media know a sizable audience will eat it up.
 
Damian. said:
WTF did everyone expect? It's Crytek. They offer amazing tech demos for the absurd price of $60. Technical wizards, moronic businessmen.
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I don't even think they are tech wizard. Tech wizard to me are people that make gorgeous technical achievements with limited hardware resources. Crytek's games, more or less, require high end hardwares. Also would disagree on being bad businessmen. They make money, they just lost some sight of good game designs lately.
 
massoluk said:
I don't even think they are tech wizard. Tech wizard to me are people that make gorgeous technical achievements with limited hardware resources. Crytek's games, more or less, require high end hardwares. Also would disagree on being bad businessmen. They make money, they just lost some sight of good game designs lately.
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Crytek's games generally look even really good on low end hardware. For example: Crysis 3 on low esily looks better than the new call of duty.
 
Guerrilla said:
Ok, so I'm new to gaf so I might get the wrong idea here, but this really looks like you just so want the xbox to fail, that you dismiss, downplay or ignore any positive impressions of this game and bash it like it was kabuki warriors. There are at least as many positive reactions as there are negative ones, so instead of a thread named "this game sucks since one guy said so (ouch) " shouldn't this be called "ryse preview compilation (so far the impressions are mixed)" As it stands now this all sounds a tad bit fanboyish....
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Yep, you got the wrong idea.
 
Guerrilla said:
Ok, so I'm new to gaf so I might get the wrong idea here, but this really looks like you just so want the xbox to fail, that you dismiss, downplay or ignore any positive impressions of this game and bash it like it was kabuki warriors. There are at least as many positive reactions as there are negative ones, so instead of a thread named "this game sucks since one guy said so (ouch) " shouldn't this be called "ryse preview compilation (so far the impressions are mixed)" As it stands now this all sounds a tad bit fanboyish....
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Are you referring to GAF as a singular entity?

Besides this is just ONE game people are talking about in the lineup. I personally wasn't looking forward to this game either. I also didn't enjoy my hands on time with Knack. It is not a condemnation of either console, just saying those particular games aren't fun.

When you call out a forum as a hive mind and misconstrue criticism for one title as an attack on an entire console, then your impressions about what is "fanboyish" losses a bit of weight.
 
prwxv3 said:
Why were there comparisons with god of war again? GOW is no Bayonetta or DMC but at least it had a fully functions combat combat system and QTE finishers were not forced on nearly every enemy.
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I think it's mostly "character action snobs" - like myself, admittedly - who hold DMC/Bayonetta in extremely high regard not really having our instruments calibrated properly to tell the difference between the various tiers of Western "action beat-em-ups", despite there admittedly being a fair degree of granularity between (for instance) God of War, Lords of Shadow, Dante's Inferno, and Darksiders.

That said, the Batman comparisons really are more apt. The combat is more percussive/rhythmic (albeit not maintaining its rhythm very well due to jank), as opposed to being free-flow/combo based. Objectively, it's not actually that similar to GoW etc. al.
 
I haven't back to the htread in awhile so hopefully this hasn't been posted:


I will say this much: the new build of Ryse I played recently was more entertaining than the one I found incredibly dull back at E3. Not by much, though. The bulk of the gameplay feels like a much less refined and complex version of the brawling found in the Batman: Arkham games, consisting primarily of spamming the X button and occasionally switching to the A button to deflect a heavily telegraphed attack from behind.

When you see a skull above an enemy's head, you tap a button to start an elaborate quick-time event: a choreographed cut scene where you have to tap the appropriate button when your foe starts to flash one of two colors. Don't worry, the action slows down considerably to give you plenty of opportunity to complete these moves, and even if you fail, the kill still goes forward (though you get fewer points and bonuses).

To the game's credit, all of this combat is rendered and animated exquisitely, with your character automatically taking advantage of nearby scenery and weapons to take the enemy out in some novel ways. In a bit over an hour or so of gameplay, I only saw a handful of death animations repeat themselves in precisely the same way. Fans seeking novelty in their over-the-top gore and limb removal will be in heaven.

It's all held together by a story that, at least in the demo, came off as incredibly overwrought even by video game standards. My notes include two particularly egregious bits of scenery-chewing dialogue: "I'll kill each and every one of you!" and "You bastards! You murdering barbarian bastards!" These and all the other lines are delivered as well as can be expected, and the motion-captured character movements are top notch, but there's only so much you can do with material this cheesy.

I'll reserve final judgment for when I've had time to play through the entire game, but based on my demo time, I'm not looking forward to Ryse very much.
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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/xbox-one-game-extravaganza-hands-on-with-10-launch-exclusives/2/
 
Azula said:
Ryan from IGN loved it.
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I've never seen this guy say anything negative about an Xbox game or product. His Halo 4 review is so embarrassingly bad. You would have thought Halo 4 was going to cure cancer the way he was going on about it. Can't take anything he says about Xbox seriously.
 
If there is anything I've learned from my 20+ years as a gamer is that when it comes to previews and reviews it's often more fruitful to read the ones with the lowest scores first and adjust accordingly. None of the videos I've seen so far have impressed me but I might still be wrong. Here's hoping.
 
Its intentional that you can play the game with one hand.
german xboxone ad:
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It says: "Eat and play simultaneously"

http://translate.google.de/translat.../unsere-produkte/pizzaburger/gewinnspiel.html
 
Wow imagine if everyone's opinion required a new thread, sure there may be some truth to what he says, but its only one persons opinion. I think LOL is pretty boring yet its taken over the PC competitive community.
 
biRdy said:
Wow imagine if everyone's opinion required a new thread, sure there may be some truth to what he says, but its only one persons opinion. I think LOL is pretty boring yet its taken over the PC competitive community.
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It's not just one opinion...almost every previewer except IGN is saying it's bad.

IGN: Silent Hills HD 9.0 (Advertisements for Silent Hill HD on the site: enough said)
 
biRdy said:
Wow imagine if everyone's opinion required a new thread, sure there may be some truth to what he says, but its only one persons opinion. I think LOL is pretty boring yet its taken over the PC competitive community.
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I didn't find any of the gameplay sequences of Ryse very exciting either (and a little too gruesome for my tastes too), and I can understand the unenthusiastic feedback about the game. The only thing bothering me in that specific preview is this :
With my left hand completely off the controller, I was able to slice and dice through tons of enemies simply by inputting the same sequence ad nauseum.
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So, it's a flaw of the game indeed (assuming he wasn't playing in easy mode), but even if he found a loophole in the gameplay mechanics, he doesn't have to abuse it. It immediately made me think of Bayonetta (one of my favourite games this generation, and one with undisputed depth in its gameplay). There is a similar flaw in the game, where you can win almost all encounters by spamming PPK (or whatever the name of the buttons are). Of course you can abuse it, but you would only be ruining your own fun by ignoring most of the gameplay subtleties.
(I'm quite certain Ryse is nowhere as deep as Bayonetta though, it was just an example).
 
GoofsterStud said:
It's not just one opinion...almost every previewer except IGN is saying it's bad.

IGN: Silent Hills HD 9.0 (Advertisements for Silent Hill HD on the site: enough said)
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I was talking about how the thread was started because of one persons hit against the game, not defending just saying a "what if"
 
Ryse seems like this coming gens "The Bouncer."

A mediocre too bad game wrapped in pretty graphics. That will probably have a small handful of console fanboys trying to defend it for a while to justify paying $60 for a tech demo.
 
Jonm1010 said:
Ryse seems like this coming gens "The Bouncer."

A mediocre too bad game wrapped in pretty graphics. That will probably have a small handful of console fanboys trying to defend it for a while to justify paying $60 for a tech demo.
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Man I remember when I saw a trailer for The Bouncer at the cinema, the graphics were amazing back then.
 
Jonm1010 said:
Ryse seems like this coming gens "The Bouncer."

A mediocre too bad game wrapped in pretty graphics. That will probably have a small handful of console fanboys trying to defend it for a while to justify paying $60 for a tech demo.
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The Bouncer was awesome because it teased how awesome ffx was going to look. No way Ryse plays as bad as that game, though.
 
Guerrilla said:
Ok, so I'm new to gaf so I might get the wrong idea here, but this really looks like you just so want the xbox to fail, that you dismiss, downplay or ignore any positive impressions of this game and bash it like it was kabuki warriors. There are at least as many positive reactions as there are negative ones, so instead of a thread named "this game sucks since one guy said so (ouch) " shouldn't this be called "ryse preview compilation (so far the impressions are mixed)" As it stands now this all sounds a tad bit fanboyish....
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Don't refer to GAF as a single entity. That's frowned upon. There are actually quite a few GAFers who have played the game and really liked it, and some who haven't. The game seems very polarizing at this point.

As for me, the gameplay does seem shallow, but I think the eye candy more than makes up for it.
 
Nail in the coffin for me. Canceled my PO and ordered dead rising 3 instead. If Ryse turns out to be good, I'll buy it later. Disappointing about this game, seems most opinions have been poor.
 
The game looks beautiful, and studying abroad in Italy really plucks some of my nostalgia strings. Seems to be competent and not much else though. Hope it's cool.
 
nynt9 said:
The interesting thing to me is that normally previews for AAA games are extremely positive and the negatives come out only during the reviews, which always causes buyer's remorse for preorderers. This is one of the very few times I've seen a big outlet like GI be extremely critical of a very high profile AAA game in a preview. That's thread worthy to me.
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GI is Gamestop's mag, right? Wonder if there's any bad blood between GS and MS.
 
I don't really have time for a long debate right now, but I would just like to point out that I am personally aware of more positive impressions of this game than I am negative impressions.

The positive impressions that I have read/seen are from Gamespot, Adam Sessler (Rev3's youtube channel), Geoff Keighly(Twitter), Ben Kuchera (Penny Arcade report, Twitter), the Escapist, Inquirer, Polygon, and Gametrailers, and Ars Technica.

The negative impressions that I am aware of are Game Informer, Joystiq, and Shack News.

I may be missing some. I don't really have time to read this whole thread right now. The reception of this game is mixed, with many very positive impressions and many very negative impressions.

I know some of you guys say positive reviews don't matter, but just listen to yourself say that and think about whether or not that intellectually honest or not. It is the laziest thing in the world to just write off the other side's opinions as though the whole world is systemically against you and unfair because it doesn't always agree with you.
 
I know the games press loves Batman combat because it makes them feel like they aren't scrubs, but can that combat and only that combat sustain a whole game? If Batman was just a combat game and wasn't also a metroidvania with lots of other mechanics and exploration, it would be junk.
 
Remember Lair? I never played it but I do remember the constant drumbeat of people hating it. If I recall correctly the controls for Lair were busted, but the graphics were really great for the time. Ryse gives me the same kind of vibe.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
I know the games press loves Batman combat because it makes them feel like they aren't scrubs, but can that combat and only that combat sustain a whole game? If Batman was just a combat game and wasn't also a metroidvania with lots of other mechanics and exploration, it would be junk.
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i don't know... I love the combat in AC...not AO... I find myself playing 5 hours straight of the just the combat challenges in AC.
 
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