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Mario Galaxy looks fantastic whereas Xenoblade looks very low end.
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Mario Galaxy looks fantastic whereas Xenoblade looks very low end.
This is some of the worst shit I've ever read.
You do realize that Xenoblade is pushing more that almost any other similar game out there, right? You can't expect the visuals to match Galaxy because the scale of the game is so astoundingly big, it would be almost impossible.
You do realize that Xenoblade is pushing more that almost any other similar game out there, right? You can't expect the visuals to match Galaxy because the scale of the game is so astoundingly big, it would be almost impossible.
Glorified G
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Why does it have to be one or the other? How about playing a great looking game AND a great playing game. I felt like I was playing a ps2 game in 2003 when I fired up xenoblade.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Final Fantasy VII is a bit of an overstatement, but Xenoblade could've at least helped dig the genre out of its grave in the US.
But alas, we're still mired in NIS/Gust/Idea Factory shit.
Man-is-Obsolete
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It's the Wii.....at 480p. Don't expect much.
What? Xenoblades character models aren't great, but the environments are easily among the best on the system. Alltogether the game looks really good, not low end atall.
FieryBalrog
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Yup. And a very valid one, even if it was written like a dumbass gamefaqs screed.
Yes, but Monolith didn't even make two models, one for the game and another for the cinematics. They just did one low polygon model. So, I think the budget wasn't that big either.
More representative of the gaming fanbase at large than games journalism, actually.
aliencowz7
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I cant say all his points are invalid, I do think the way he brought them about is only asking for trouble though.
Sure the game looks fine on wii but I still cant help but think what it could have been if it had been built from the ground up with HD consoles or even PC in mind. Art direction can carry a game just fine, but it can also take it even farther over the top when combined with powerful tech running it.
Sure the game looks fine on wii but I still cant help but think what it could have been if it had been built from the ground up with HD consoles or even PC in mind. Art direction can carry a game just fine, but it can also take it even farther over the top when combined with powerful tech running it.
PixyJunket
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10/10.
Absolutely. If he had written it better then maybe more would have taken him seriously since it wouldn't be so easy to casually dismiss it.
Why would you "pretend"? Is it somehow a stain on one's character to prefer good graphics?
BlazingDarkness
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Xenoblade also has one of the biggest scopes and variety of explorable areas than any other game this generation (regardless of platform)
Yeah, I rock an old-ish 55" rear projection HDTV, so my Wii games actually look pretty nice due to the native 480P support.
It doesn't have to be one or the other, it's just that anyone with a good head on their shoulders will realize that having good mechanics should contribute to your enjoyment much more than extras like pretty graphics and story.
hardcastlemccormick
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Not every game can be AAA. This game probably wouldn't have been made if they aimed too high.
That's pretty much what Xenoblade is telling you it's offering, yeah, just on a much larger scope.
FieryBalrog
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It's "video games". The video part is important. I'm not speaking of tech, but aesthetics & presentation. Tech is not an end in and of itself, it's an enabler. Lack of AA combined with blurry textures and proliferating jaggies, for example, is one of the worst offenders and is ruinous for your game's aesthetics.
Personally my issue with Xenoblade is an image quality issue, I don't mind the textures or even the models, it's the quality of the image that made my experience of playing the game on the Wii that much worse, it's also an issue I didn't had with most other Wii games such as SS.
Thankfully the Dolphin allowed my way around it. I'd still would had enjoyed the game either way, but for a game that's so focused on atmosphere and it's world I feel my enjoyment of it was greatly increased by playing it at a higher resolution with a much better IQ.
I didn't play it on an HDTV and I still thought it looked like a blurry/jaggy mess, though I didn't use component cables (my TV doesn't support them).
Seems I erased the wrong quote tags, sorry about that, fixed it.
Can't wait for Xenoblade HD on Wii U!
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Good call. I'm gonna go cancel my Wii preorder.
I think the cost of making it with HD consoles in mind at its current scope may very well sunk Monolith.
ThatObviousUser
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This guy is a couple years late to the Wii graphics bashing party and a couple crayons short of a rainbow.
Henry Jones Jr
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Rear-projection TVs are fucking magic. I have a 56" DLP in my living room and EVERYTHING looks great on it. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, PS3. It all looks fantastic. I have a 32" LED-LCD in my room and everything looks good except PS1 and Wii games for some reason. Wii games still look OK, but PS1 games look horrid.
Because they could have done any better on the Wii in 2011-12 ????
Crumpet Trumpet
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is this 2006?
And what point is that? "Its too bad technology has crazy things called limits", or "Everything should be equally good in every way", or "The Wii is 5 years old and things look old on it".
FieryBalrog
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No, no, no, no, no.
Look at this game on Dolphin. The very same game. The game is fucking beautiful with proper hardware and video output, no new assets or code or ANYTHING. The game is incredibly ugly on the Wii and it has nothing to do with HD assets. It has to do with some bare minimum graphical tech that the Wii fails to provide.
aliencowz7
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Maybe, maybe not but I find it hard to believe that if they had pulled it off it wouldn't have been a better game for it.
is this 2006?
Graphic whores exist in any year
Maybe it's just me, but when I think about graphics in that way, it makes me feel really superficial and gross. I would hate to be the kind of person who couldn't play an N64 game, for example, just because it was an N64 game, even if I loved it 15 years ago.
I don't judge others for having certain preferences, but personally anyway, I would consider it a "stain on my character". But I'm weird like that, I guess.
I think the game looks pretty good if viewed at 1:1, or on a CRT. We're throwing blame all over the place for why it doesn't look so great on Wii, but does anybody ever bother to blame fixed pixel display technology for these things? I mean, Wii games don't look great on most current HDTVs, but to be honest, 360/PS3 games at 720p also look pretty blurry on a 1080p TV too.
Mauricio_Magus
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I loved how the game looked, the game is beautiful the way it is.
You're right. Xenoblade had... One or two characters I didn't like, I guess? Oh, and it was way to easy to play it for 12 hours in a single sitting because it was too Goddamn fun.
EDIT: Xenoblade definitely runs at 30 FPS, people.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I blame the Wii because it looks worse (in terms of image quality) than other systems on the same display, regardless of whether it's CRT or otherwise.
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