Jag
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He set her up. She's clearly not as good as she thinks and he's been at this for a long time.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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He set her up. She's clearly not as good as she thinks and he's been at this for a long time.
Tyrion did not do that. He didn't arrive at King's Landing until he was made Hand at the end of season 1. He was captured by Catelyn while travelling south from the Wall.
Also the second episode of the show was literally called The Kingsroad and had the Baratheons and Starks on the journey to King's Landing.
SurrenderDorothy
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If that's what it takes to avoid DanyxJon then yes please.
Sleeping Lesson
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Yep I agree. I'm one that really enjoys deliberately-paced shows so I loved that in early Thrones, but I was definitely ready for shit to start popping off this season.
I think they will kill The Night King but at a petty heavy loss. Will barey look like a victory.
DarkJediKnight
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I'm gonna say, I really enjoyed Gendry in this episode. Him making a warhammer like his father was a great touch. As was his meeting with Jon.
Little does he know that his father hated Jon's father.
In the episode 6 preview, it looks like Hound is using the hammer. I really hope Gendry doesn't die because I need him to get married to Arya and rule Stormlands.
Also, Dany's entire claim to the throne is based on legitimacy. If Sam takes the book to Dragonstone, and there's more to it about Jon, then would Dany bend the knee to Jon?
I think it will be Tyrion or Varys who figures it out.
Imagine if next season, Jon returns to Dragonstone, and they all bend the knee, and Jon has a look of shock in his face - like when they declared him KITN.
Little does he know that his father hated Jon's father.
In the episode 6 preview, it looks like Hound is using the hammer. I really hope Gendry doesn't die because I need him to get married to Arya and rule Stormlands.
Also, Dany's entire claim to the throne is based on legitimacy. If Sam takes the book to Dragonstone, and there's more to it about Jon, then would Dany bend the knee to Jon?
I think it will be Tyrion or Varys who figures it out.
Imagine if next season, Jon returns to Dragonstone, and they all bend the knee, and Jon has a look of shock in his face - like when they declared him KITN.
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victreeb3l
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I loved the scene when Dany gets off Drogon and he flies off to join the other dragons in the sky. Looked straight out of a blockbuster Hollywood movie. Damn that whole scene beginning to end was probably my favorite from last night.
With all the traveling this season, you'd have multiple seasons of just people walking around or on horses.
Here's what GRRM has said about the ending:
He's said it's going to be bitter sweet. So you're half right.
Yea, I've been saying this for a while. I don't think the white walkers are really evil and only around to punish mankind. I think Jon does become the new night king.
I honestly just assumed him doing the rounds, talking to people, and eventually hiding that scroll, was all a ploy to trap Arya. He didn't "catch" her following him, he intended for her to the entire time.
Of course, I'd like to think Arya isn't that stupid and is playing him, too.
The Omega Man
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redfox088
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Originally Posted by in first OT...
-This new idea floating around is very interesting. I'm seeing folks say what if the White Walker threat was resolved this season, and dwindles the Dany/Jon forces to the point that the Cercei/Euron actually has the upper hand in season 8? The political conflicts is the crux of the show and the series should end with Human/Human as the core plot element. 80% of the series has been about the Great Game. It should end on that note. And it would be an excusable reason to allow cersei and Jaime to persist to the end instead of "Muh Plot Armuh".
Despite it being pure conjecture I'll be sticking to this theory for now. The developments of last nights episode only make it more plausible.
-This new idea floating around is very interesting. I'm seeing folks say what if the White Walker threat was resolved this season, and dwindles the Dany/Jon forces to the point that the Cercei/Euron actually has the upper hand in season 8? The political conflicts is the crux of the show and the series should end with Human/Human as the core plot element. 80% of the series has been about the Great Game. It should end on that note. And it would be an excusable reason to allow cersei and Jaime to persist to the end instead of "Muh Plot Armuh".
Despite it being pure conjecture I'll be sticking to this theory for now. The developments of last nights episode only make it more plausible.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
The coin given to him and "The Queen needs you" is a deathflag.
And he's supposed to retire in a week. 😞
Samurai G0SU
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im thinkin, how does essos play a role with the whitealkers?
LegendofDragoonLives
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The WW threat ending on 2 episodes would be one of the worst things I've ever heard for this show
Awesome. I was shouting that it's the fucking A-team.
I had the song going in my head the whole time:
https://youtu.be/_MVonyVSQoM
redfox088
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No I'm saying it concludes before the cercei/iron throne conflict.
No way Jorah dies. There is bound to be some payoff between Sam fixing his dragonscale and Sam going to find out Jon is a Targ and telling Jon/Dany.
The other 3 though, probably. Though a Gendry/Arya reunion might also be in the cards.
We had one last season but I don't think it was this fast. It's been crazy fast this season.
What's the alternative? Fight Cersei and the dead at the same time? Devastate the South and then hope they can beat the Walkers? It's not a great plan, but it's the only plan. They either somehow get the South's support or they all die, it's simple as that.
Those are definitely the three I want to survive the most. Jon and the Hound are locks for sure, and Tormund still needs to win Brienne's heart. I'd like to see Gendry reunite with Arya, but I'm not optimistic about his chances at all.
-ImaginaryInsider
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I like his character, but him becoming the undead proof they need would be an honorable death, and it would absolutely galvanize Dany towards the Night King threat the rest of the way.
soundscream
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LOL Gendry
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woah OT2 already
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Clegane is a Knight.
He has full Heirloms, though.
Yep. Before this episode I didn't think Cersei would outlive the WW invasion, but now I think she's endgame. We ain't even seen her final form yet.
Erm, how is it plausible. 7 guys are going to capture a wight. They're not going to beat the Night King.
Sleeping Lesson
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No he ain't.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Oh yeah, that was his undead brother.
Teletraan1
Banned
When you only have 7 episode seasons complaining that they cut out 3 episodes worth of character building 7 seasons in seems like the go to internet reaction. It's just the usual noise from the "Bad pacing" brigade that shows up in every single OT for every single show that has ever aired an episode. I dare anyone to find an OT that doesn't have someone complain about pacing even when it isn't even really a problem. It has been more jarring this season because they usually would weave in tangential story bits with characters either in a far off place or on their way somewhere but most of the pieces are in place and we know all the characters and they really don't have time to waste if they want to finish the overall story. They still have a few of these tangential story bits, just not enough to cover all of the travel that these characters have to do.
In an ideal world every season would have been 13 episodes if they really wanted to try and cover everything in the books(guess what, the pacing would have been worse but at least try and cover all the source material). Oh and the books would have been finished in this ideal world as well.
In an ideal world every season would have been 13 episodes if they really wanted to try and cover everything in the books(guess what, the pacing would have been worse but at least try and cover all the source material). Oh and the books would have been finished in this ideal world as well.
NYR
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WTF? It's an obvious shift of the structure of the show and stands out like a sore thumb, poeple are totally within their right to discuss and complain about it, it's a jarring change.
How did I miss Job being a Targ? When did it say who his mom was? I remember the child birth scene but nothing specific about her heritage.
Lumination
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As someone that binged seasons 1-6 in a month, I do miss the traveling. Made the world seem a lot bigger and made for plenty of character development time. But I understand what needs to happen now.
Also I don't know how you guys managed to wait like months for anyone to get from A to B.
Also I don't know how you guys managed to wait like months for anyone to get from A to B.
Twin Peaks and GoT air in the UK the other way around. Going from one to the other these past two Sundays has been jarring as hell.