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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Funky Papa
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I thought it was surprisingly mild by GoT standards (although the nail stuff was indeed icky stuff).
Forsaken82
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Bronn proved in season 1 that Armor is not always an advantage.
Steelyuhas
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The people that got screeners (first 4 episodes) have said that episodes 3 and 4 pick up considerable compared to the first two. Lots of setting the pieces in motion in the first two episodes.
That said, I won't deny that given the shows super serialized and plot driven nature, having all the episodes to watch at once is the better experience.
Whereas Bronn used his light, unarmored body as an advantage in that scene to tire out his opponent by avoiding his attacks, Brienne did exactly the opposite by using her large, armored body to bash into and wear down Jaime fairly quickly. Interesting contrast there.
Funky Papa
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In my experience, GoT is better enjoyed in binges of two to three episodes.
Davey Cakes
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I can see why it'd be good in binges or by-the-episode.
With many shows, I'm pretty content with the cutoff point for the end of an episode. "Well, that's satisfactory for this week, can't wait for next." Where, with GoT I get so caught up in it that I'm almost expecting 10 more minutes of an episode and then bam, credits.
That said, it's still satisfying to watch one at a time, once a week. When you think about it, the show is only ten eps per season so rushing through it, while tempting, is a disservice. I like taking it week by week in small pieces, rather than wait three weeks, watch three eps, and wait three weeks, and watch three eps.
movies aren't reality.
the funny thing is that he never acts on his own, it was always someone else who made him commit these horrible acts. In the end, he's still responsible for what he did, but it makes him kind of a tragic figure in my eyes
if he's really a prisoner of the Northmen now, I think his men might have tried to exchange him for their own lives after subduing him
Funky Papa
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At least is very rewatchable, though. There are tons of little details that only pop up during a second of third viewing. I've watched S1 a couple of times after introducing my friends to it through the Blu-ray set.
Davey Cakes
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Today I was thinking about how beneficial it would be to do another run-through of Season 1. But damn, I just have too many other shows that I'm invested in, currently.
Forsaken82
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I would say
it happened in the book also
SolidusDave
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That or Roose actually has a deal with the Greyjoys. Then Theon did his own thing unexpectedly against their plan and now they are questioning him why he did it.
Reason I believe they work together is that Theon's sister can't just conveniently have a spy in house Bolton, can she? The only other explanation would be, that he's tortured by his father's men, but I don't think he would do that nor that his sister couldn't visit directly. Makes more sense if Bolton wants to know what's up as he probably doesn't trust the Greyjoys either so he has to check if they (via Theon) try to double cross him.
Thinking of it, it makes so much sense for Bolton offering his own men to free Winterfell. If they are doing some coup together with Greyjoy, they sure as hell don't want Robb to turn his army to that region. They probably were pissed when Theon took Winterfell.
edit: regarding the child actors: Would it be a problem to just increase the time frame of the events for the TV show to match the age of the actors? I mean, so far it wouldn't really matter if it took them let's say twice as long to travel around or longer times to happen between events/battles etc.? I don't recall them giving many specific time lengths anyway.
Sorry if this is beating a dead horse, but I'm a little confused on Theon's situation. At the end of S2, his men knock him out and trade him to Robb's army in exchange for free passage back to the Iron Islands, right? But on their way out, they also torched Winterfell and killed everone? Why would they still be allowed to go after that?
edit - nvm, you guys are already talking about it. :lol
edit - nvm, you guys are already talking about it. :lol
something to keep in mind, from wiki
"In addition it was much more easy to move run and fight in a suit of plate armour than commonly believed, since it weighted 15-20 kg. and the weight was spread evenly on the body so a man wearing it was not an easy target for agile footmen. In fact many men wearing full plate were usually fighting on foot, especially in the 15th century"
BobTheFork
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I've been assuming they did NOT burn and kill everyone and that whomever took Theon did it.
Of course that would mean they whomever took Theon did it and then wasn't around then Bran and the group left? I don't know, but I was under the impression that the troups leaving did not do it.
DON'T WATCH THIS if you want to stay fresh for the rest of the season.
It's not that bad, but it spoils some awesome moments from the next couple of episodes.
You know what, don't watch it at all.
I never get why they release videos like this featuring characters that haven't even appeared in the sereis yet. Especially if they're going to show relatively important scenes.
Ridiculous.
I watched it and don't think it really spoiled much. In fact I can't really remember any of the scenes they showed or what you might be referring to.
SolidusDave
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Regarding Jamie vs. Brienne:
I had the impression she first hesitated, maybe not because she didn't want to hurt him but because his skills are wildly known. Then she noticed he was worn out a bit so she got much more confident in her current advantage.
Also, Jamie was cocky as ever and seemed to fight as if he's wearing armor. There was that moment in which he tried to body-check her but just painfully bounced off her armor.
Plus the weakened state thing people already mentioned.
I had the impression she first hesitated, maybe not because she didn't want to hurt him but because his skills are wildly known. Then she noticed he was worn out a bit so she got much more confident in her current advantage.
Also, Jamie was cocky as ever and seemed to fight as if he's wearing armor. There was that moment in which he tried to body-check her but just painfully bounced off her armor.
Plus the weakened state thing people already mentioned.
Forsaken82
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I don't doubt any of that. I am simply saying that I also don't doubt that someone in full armor is likely to tire before someone less encumbered
It's better viewed as a full episode instead of 10 minute chunks like they show it on Sky Atlantic, ugh.
Also, should point out with regards to Jaime vs Brienne that his wrists were chained together and clasped in irons still.
RukusProvider
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I'm so tempted to read spoilers. I have no idea how I'm going to cope for years without reading spoilers...How are you guys managing?
Well, I wouldn't say they're very important, but they do take out some of the surprise. You probably won't notice anything if you don't really pay close attention, but I wouldn't watch it either way.
Like I said, if you want to stay completely fresh, don't watch it.
I couldn't take it and bought/read the books after season 1.
ChimpBottle
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Jorah in season 1 is a much better example. You see him arguing with Rakharo the usefulness of armour and in the fight against the guy at the end, the arakh got caught in his plate.
Funky Papa
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I accidentally spoiled myself some HUGE FUCKING THINGS that should happen during this season. It was horrible enough not to keep reading Wikis and
'd text.
This thread is my home now
Edit: Also, last season some dicks decided to talk about the plot without using spoiler tags. I read some minor but juicy spoilers that I wish I wouldn't. Good thing I closed the thread immediately and I can't make a full picture of what I read.
This thread is my home now
Edit: Also, last season some dicks decided to talk about the plot without using spoiler tags. I read some minor but juicy spoilers that I wish I wouldn't. Good thing I closed the thread immediately and I can't make a full picture of what I read.
That's another good one. I think it's pretty clear though that when it comes to armored vs. unarmored, one isn't universally better. It comes down to the situation and the skills of the individual fighters. Bronn is obviously better being lighter on his feet; Jorah and Brienne are more skilled with a suit of armor.
NathanMcMahon
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Why do people feel the need to talk about future shit? Do you read the OP Funky?
How about you edit your post out? No one here wants to see this.
Funky Papa
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I don't think that could ever be constructed as a spoiler of any kind (nor I'd wish to do such thing), but I'll edit it out anyway.
NathanMcMahon
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Read the OP. It's not for this thread.
Funky Papa
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I understand.
Funky Papa
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If you are replying to me, I wouldn't even dare to do such thing. I already got burned last season by someone else. Honestly, I know the pain.
But enough talk about spoilers, this is the cool thread. Let's drink like Cersei and share jokes about Ros' tits.
they didn't show the fight between the walkers and the crows
we don't know who is holding Theon, but there seems to be some evidence that hints to the Northmen Robb sent to recapture Winterfell
timetokill
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Re: the White Walkers, they did have the attack, it happened off screen. (between season 2 and 3, basically).
Re: the other stuff, PM me and I'll give you some details if you want them.
They were about to attack the mountain the Watch was at. I can only blame budget reasons for not showing us the battle.
Funky Papa
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That was the only actual low of S3 so far. A few whimpers followed by the remaining survivors showing up beaten and bloody. At least they could have shown some bodies like they did in S2 to reinforce the idea of being in an actual battlefield. I guess some recounts/remarks about the battle from the survivors could help, too, although I'm not sure if the writers could cram all that in a single episode.
RukusProvider
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I accidentally spoiled myself some HUGE FUCKING THINGS that should happen during this season. It was horrible enough not to keep reading Wikis and'd text.
This thread is my home now
Edit: Also, last season some dicks decided to talk about the plot without using spoiler tags. I read some minor but juicy spoilers that I wish I wouldn't. Good thing I closed the thread immediately and I can't make a full picture of what I read.
*hugs* that sucks man...I need to just stay in this thread and let it wash out of me. Spoiler tags are annoyingly tempting.
The battle was at the Fist of the First Men, an ancient mound of a fort well north of the Wall. To Watch are on a slow trek back to the Wall as we speak.
The Wildlings and Jon Snow are even further north of the Fist, but also heading south.
Ape Gone Insane
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My favourite part with direwolves looking fearsome is easily last season when Grey Wind circles Jaime's cell.
Funky Papa
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I have to wonder... what do the Boltons win by interrogating Theon? As far as we know everybody is aware of Pyke's pirates raiding the north coast, right?
I'm sorry, but this shit infuriates me. Not to try and call you out per se, but someone a page or two tried the same stuff.
How the fuck can you deduce that it was Bolton's bastard who has Theon, that they torched Winterfell and killed everyone and that the Bolton's are in Tywin's pocket and that Robb should watch his back from the scene?
I'm going to stop posting in this thread because of people who have obviously read the books and come here and try to stealth guess what will happen when you know it will.
All we got from the scene was Theon being tortured. I had to watch twice to pick up on the X he was being tortured on, but had you not said it right now, I'd have missed it. How do you deduce the rest?
Funky Papa
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I just saw this over WIC's Tumblr.
I still think the nail torture was much, much worse.
My guess is that the Boltons are trying to force Robb's hand because he's too soft and honorable. Roose obviously dislikes Talissa, as he also dislikes not being able to kill and/or torture his prisoners like he'd like to.
I still think the nail torture was much, much worse.
Other people have surmised the same. The Boltons have Theon, that much is clear looking at him crucified and tortured, as is also clear that Theon's soldiers were corraled by Roose's bastard. Then Theon's right hand tells his men "let's go home" right after knocking him down, as if everything was already decided. It makes no sense for them to burn Winterfell if they were to give Theon away in exchange for safe passage. Also, Roose (or was that raven sent for Rob?) was not informed of Theon's capture, which is rather odd.
My guess is that the Boltons are trying to force Robb's hand because he's too soft and honorable. Roose obviously dislikes Talissa, as he also dislikes not being able to kill and/or torture his prisoners like he'd like to.
I doubt Aya is in danger. The Hound called attention to her just to distract his captors.
The only chance Jaime and Brienne have of surviving this fight is if they stay on that bridge. If they give up the bridge they'll just be cut down easily in the open woods. If they try to use the river they'll be caught easily because each of them are handicapped for swimming in rough currents like that.
I'm guessing Rob losing big time because he married that woman will come to pass. When that will happen is unknown.
I love Marjaery but I don't like what she is trying to do with Joffrey. If she's successful I'm going to be seeing her doing a bunch of things I would rather not see her do. If she's unsuccessful well...
The only chance Jaime and Brienne have of surviving this fight is if they stay on that bridge. If they give up the bridge they'll just be cut down easily in the open woods. If they try to use the river they'll be caught easily because each of them are handicapped for swimming in rough currents like that.
I'm guessing Rob losing big time because he married that woman will come to pass. When that will happen is unknown.
I love Marjaery but I don't like what she is trying to do with Joffrey. If she's successful I'm going to be seeing her doing a bunch of things I would rather not see her do. If she's unsuccessful well...
sounds like speculation to me
Funky Papa
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I don't trust the Hound for a second.
One thing that Margaery has over Cersei is that she actually accepts and maybe even enjoys the game. Cersei plays it because she understands she needs to do it if she wants to remain alive/loves that freak of a son of hers, whereas Marg does it because she wants to be the queen. Also, I think Cersei is rather blunt in her approach (power is power) and thinks she's smarter than she actually thinks. Marg lacks that kind of arrogance. She doesn't gather information in order to attack other people, but in order to plan her strategy. She's incredibly shrewd.
I really, really like her progression so far.
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